There are at least one million people heading to Washington, DC tomorrow for the renaming of a street there that the Mayor has authorized be renamed Black Lives Matter Blvd.
With regard to what is going on with these protests.
1. BLM wants change.
From the Chicago Sun-Times 6/8/2020
"Five people were killed and 30 others were wounded in shootings across Chicago over the weekend."
How many of these people were shot by the Police?
You want change?...Start in your neighborhood.
There are at least one million people heading to Washington, DC tomorrow for the renaming of a street there that the Mayor has authorized be renamed Black Lives Matter Blvd.
With regard to what is going on with these protests.
1. BLM wants change.
From the Chicago Sun-Times 6/8/2020
"Five people were killed and 30 others were wounded in shootings across Chicago over the weekend."
How many of these people were shot by the Police?
You want change?...Start in your neighborhood.
Yes, as always let's compare poverty and gangs to police violence....
Completely different problem...... but let's just bring up "Chicago" again and again..
let's bust some senior skull. Got it.
I never said such a thing. If you are saying the officer intentionally tried to push him over, I’d have to disagree.
You said the "contact was gentle". Intentional or not, the guy's in the hospital.
They pushed the wrong guy.
Then they stepped over him while he was bleeding as if he was roadkill
Well, I'll tell what you should not do, under no circumstances do you push a senior citizen to the ground and walk away while blood comes out of his ear and spills on the ground.
Not according to your President who managed to twist this into victim-blaming, even though the two officers have been charged with second-degree assault.
The president tweeted on Tuesday about the video footage from protests last week in Buffalo, New York: “Buffalo protester shoved by Police could be an ANTIFA provocateur. 75 year old Martin Gugino was pushed away after appearing to scan police communications in order to black out the equipment.”
He then tagged the conservative news outlet, One America News, and added: “I watched, he fell harder than was pushed. Was aiming scanner. Could be a set up?”
I know this makes me look bad with people that I like here, I don't like that, but I have to be honest, I continue to believe that the two Buffalo officers were not wrong to push that man. They are charged, I respect the charges and the legal process, the officers will have the opportunity to defend themselves and we'll see what comes of it. I am on their side, I don't know what the courts will decide, we'll have to live with whatever the results are.
They used force. What constitutes excessive force? If the man had not fallen down, would that be force or excessive force? Since he unfortunately fell and was badly injured that means the force was excessive? So the result of the force, not the intent of the force is determining factor? I'm asking, I really don't know. If they pushed him with the same force and he just stumbles and stays on his feet would we be having this conversation?
Whatever Trump said about the man, I'm not going there. I don't care what Trump said or not. It doesn't make a difference to me who he is. His age, race, sex, political affiliation matters not. I do not think the actions of the police was excessive. Here is a clip from CNN, from the Buffalo Mayor as to why the front line officers did not administer aid:
Mayor Byron Brown told CNN's Chris Cuomo on Friday night that he was told that emergency response team officers are trained to keep moving forward.
"Embedded with them are medics, officers with first-aid training," he said. "The medics were just behind the first line unit that continued to move forward, and within seconds, the medics rendered first-aid assistance."
NEW
I read an article today, try to provide link tomorrow. George Floyd was said to become resistant after initially being handcuffed while he in handcuffs and in the police car. They pulled him out. "He had foam at the sides of his mouth" and fell down at the squad car. He was probably having an epileptic seizure which results in jerking movements. They said his "body stiffened up" when he was standing. This was before he was walked across the street and put on the ground with the knee to his neck.
I looked at one of the pictures of him on the ground with the knee on his neck, you can see white stuff in the corner of his mouth.
I think he was not resisting arrest at all, at any time. He had a seizure, made jerky movements including falling down which P.O Chauvin mistook as resistance. The officer had no reason to take him out of the car after P.O. Lane had handcuffed him and out him in the car.
Epileptics can pass out while seizing. Putting a knee on the neck of someone who just had a seizure is deadly.
Https://www.yahoo.com/news/ex-cop-derek-chauvin-appears-182845312.html
"Ex cop Derek Chauvin appears in court, gets 1.25 Milion Bail in George Floyd Murder Case".
NY Times video also shows they made an EMS call he was bleeding from the mouth. They called in a "320" to EMS. Before putting him on the ground. They never got off his neck even then after they knew he had been bleeding from the mouth and had foam at the corners of his mouth.
Https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000007159353/george-floyd-arrest-death-video.html
Https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-police-bodycam-video-released-falling-death-george-floyd-n121666
The park policeman is talking to the two people who were in the car with Floyd after Floyd was taken across the street. He says a "320" was called in. That's for EMS help. This was before Floyd was put on the ground and knee'd to death.
Https://www.fox9.com/video/688157
Three officers try to get Floyd out of the car before he was handcuffed. He was not able to stand on his own.
Https://www.minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/05/26/george-floyd-man-dies-after-being-arrested-by-minneapolis-police-fbi-called-to-investigate
People on the scene even told at least Officer Thou what they were observing which was Floyd bleeding from his nose. Was he having a stroke?
FBI were called [to scrub the evidence?].
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If the police are moving forward trying to secure an area and somebody approaches them what are the police supposed to do?
Well, I'll tell what you should not do, under no circumstances do you push a senior citizen to the ground and walk away while blood comes out of his ear and spills on the ground.
Hey, we agree 100% on something.
And I agree with him as well.
muleturd continues to embarrass himself with every moronic post.
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but I have to be honest, I continue to believe that the two Buffalo officers were not wrong to push that man.
Agreed. I wouldn’t even call it a push, but people on the left have determined that he “pushed a senior citizen to the ground and walked away while blood comes out of his ear and spills on the ground.” Please.
Maybe because ... that's EXACTLY what happened!
How can you not be outraged that police officers pushed (and HELL YES, it was a push!) a 70+ year-old man to the ground and just stepped over him after noticing blood coming from his head? You're really alright with this?
Protesters in Franklinville. BLM had a protest March in Franklinville New Jersey. Notably there were what is being called "counter protesters". This was not an isolated event. The things that the counter protesters were saying are the same as was said in a protest on Long Island on Sunday, yet no organized group is claiming affiliation or having sent them to the two protests. The protests were peaceful but one has to wonder who are these counter protesters with.
Https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/09/nyregion/george-floyd-protest-franklinville-nj.html
Https://www.news.yahoo.com/protesters-smithtown-met-large-group-211451733.html
There is a war coming, but will seem like a race war but it is really a war about poverty. It can lead to civil war which would then bring down the government and usher in the new-world-order where everyone loses their autonomy, freedoms. First socialism will be implemented to quell the public's crisis but the happy hopey-changey-state doesn't last long it will go downhill fast.
Do not be deceived. Yes George Floyd was killed because he was black. That is wrong. There must be changes in the police departments so that the techniques and tactics being used do not continue. Can there be Civilian Review Boards to act as watchdogs over Internal Affairs investigations and decisions? Right now it is all kept quiet without access to the evidence to the Proceedings. Sometimes they are getting away with murder. It is not just Minneapolis, that Buffalo police dept. Is disgraceful. But Martin Gugino and the atrocities of Buffalo's p.d. needs it's own thread. [It is not just Martin Gugino].
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There was an article today that sought to do a more in depth look at George Floyd's life.
"For George Floyd a complicated life and a notorious death"
Https://www.charlotteobserver.com/entertainment/music-news-reviews/article243420406.html
[If article is not found use the title to search for it some agency is taking down the articles from the newspapers like state, the star, yahoo, etc. You know who the usual suspects are].
He had five children with different women. He tried to have stability and a better standard of living than he had growing up in a housing project in Houston. He was not perfect, made mistakes but always tried to do better. He said he wanted to do something great. God said okay, you will cause changes in the nation and world that others have not achieved. He was martyred. It touches people because God wants it to. God's been outraged since the days of Cain and Abel. He does accept murder. He didn't then and he doesn't now.
I saw a 4×4 and on the back window it said "when the power of love is greater than the love of power then there will be peace".
When will there be peace? That's when.
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BLM does have a list of what reforms they want:
Https://www.instagram.com/hawk.newsome
The purple pages are the reforms.
If the link doesn't work go Hawk Newsome's twitter page. It's a little ways down.
Https://www.twitter.com/IAMHAWKNEWSOME
He's the head if the Greater New York branch of BLM.
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The power mongering murders have to stop. This one from New Mexico the officer told the unfortunate man "I'm going to effin' choke you out bro" and proceeded to do just that and kill a Latino he wanted from a traffic stop. The suspect ran because he had a parole violation.
Https://www.yahoo.com/news/officer-video-saying-hell-choke-010834242.html
P.O. Christopher Smelser charged with involuntary manslaughter Feb. 29th in the death of Antonio Valenzuela.
Happened due to a traffic stop.
Video
How many people are being murdered in traffic stops?
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Amazing this NM death didn’t get more attention
A top official in the Tulsa OK PD was quoted earlier today that blacks “probably aren’t shot as often as they should be, based on crimes being committed”
How reassuring for black brothers & sisters to hear
This too may not garner much attention
Who knows what news is anymore - merely a top cop all but clearing the way for & condoning another George Floyd situation
"Trump's campaign announced Wednesday that he will soon retake the stage in a crowded venue. Not only will the rally take place on June 19 -- a date known as Juneteenth, which marks the end of slavery in the United States -- it will be held in Tulsa, Oklahoma, the site of a race massacre 99 years ago that remains one of the worst acts of racial violence in US history. In 1921, hundreds of African Americans were killed when white mobs looted and burned what had been a thriving neighborhood known as "Black Wall Street." That is the city where Trump fans will gather this year on the day honoring the abolition of slavery.
Coincidence? We know better."
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/11/opinions/trump-rally-tulsa-juneteenth-ghitis/index.html
Once again, you can't make this $h!t up.
"Trump's campaign announced Wednesday that he will soon retake the stage in a crowded venue. Not only will the rally take place on June 19 -- a date known as Juneteenth, which marks the end of slavery in the United States -- it will be held in Tulsa, Oklahoma, the site of a race massacre 99 years ago that remains one of the worst acts of racial violence in US history. In 1921, hundreds of African Americans were killed when white mobs looted and burned what had been a thriving neighborhood known as "Black Wall Street." That is the city where Trump fans will gather this year on the day honoring the abolition of slavery.
Coincidence? We know better."https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/11/opinions/trump-rally-tulsa-juneteenth-ghitis/index.html
Once again, you can't make this $h!t up.
It gets better. CSA Prez #2 is afraid that attendees might catch Covid so he wants to protect himself from liability.
Trump rally attendees must sign waiver, can’t sue if they get coronavirus
Once again, Drumpf proves he only cares about Drumpf and winning 2020.
Why else would he ask thousands of Americans to expose themselves to possible infection, crammed into an arena to watch him sweat and his orange makeup start to run under the hot lights?
Why would they BE STUPID ENOUGH to sign a waiver to give him a "pass" on being held accountable?
Lemmings, all of them...
Once again, Drumpf proves he only cares about Drumpf and winning 2020.
Why else would he ask thousands of Americans to expose themselves to possible infection, crammed into an arena to watch him sweat and his orange makeup start to run under the hot lights?
Why would they BE STUPID ENOUGH to sign a waiver to give him a "pass" on being held accountable?
Lemmings, all of them...
These people who go here are doing so willingly? Do they want to go, or he is he really asking them?
I’d sign any waiver for wherever I go. Grocery store, hardware store, amusement park, airplane (I will be on one in less than a week)... nobody should sue anyone if they get sick. I would not sue if I willingly chose to do something knowing I may or may not get sick. No business, organization, entity or individual should be liable if somebody catches a virus.
Would people have signed a waiver to go see ABB at MSG? Would people protesting insert any issue, sign a waiver?
No one can prove where they contracted Covid-19 if they get it. If you want to be safe you have to be in a remote place.
Lockdown with the Dalai Lama.
Https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-53028343
If you want peace you must be in control of your emotions. Your beliefs cause your thoughts. Your thoughts cause your emotions, your emotions cause your actions. Peace begins in and with you. Mankind cannot solve his problems because he is part of his problems.
Muslim asceticism is a path to peace.
Say what?
With lynching legislation being held up in Congress due to Rand Paul wanting the language amended to specifically include a serious bodily injury standard which ensures these crimes resulting in substantial risk of death and extreme physical pain be prosecuted as a lynching where the penalty is ten years in prison now this.
Https://www.yahoo.com/news/black-man-found-hanging-tree-003448503.html
Palmdale, California Los Angeles
Robert Fuller, a 24 year old black man found hanging from a tree shortly after marching in a BLM protest. A friend named Abby called a radio station to say he was not depressed and would not have killed himself others also say this.
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Why would they BE STUPID ENOUGH to sign a waiver to give him a "pass" on being held accountable?
Lemmings, all of them...
I plan on going, as I bet some other Allman Brothers fans are going. Are you calling us stupid lemmings?
It’s disgusting - at every possible level this country has gone Down-The-SShitter
They’re calling the Palmdale Calif thing suicide
Sure
Then you see the headline “Lindsey Graham: Joe Biden is as good a man as God ever created”
I ask politely, what is this shit?
In the meantime top cops in Tulsa & probably elsewhere are on record saying blacks need to be shot more often - leading to calls for the entire defunding/dismantling of police
There Is Sh!t In The American Toilet - Howabout We FLUSH & Start Over
His political enemies will probly take the angle that “like George Floyd, Trump created & fostered the national climate of hate that resulted in this lynching” - similar to his causing the advent/spread of CVirus, also the BS impeachment process that did no one any good xcept embarrass his political enemies & the country
Unfair as it often is, the manager gets fired if the team is struggling
If Biden is that great (I disagree), if having a lady VP strikes a chord w/voters & helps to settle things down....
am just saying change is needed -
It falls on the president to do that - but hard for this president to do b/c of the constant badgering & bad information/undermining & other outside distractions
In the same fashion that Vietnam beat down LBJ b4 he got a chance to implement his vision of America via his Great Society program
Good wknd to you nice people
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Riots in Atlanta after cops murdered an unarmed black man at a Wendy’s restaurant
Unrest in Calif after a lynching in Palmdale
I don’t know what You see when you open Your eyes to the video of that racist bastard vandalizing her neighbor’s car with a hammer
Or what you see when that SShitheel spews racist bile at an Asian man, with his 11 year old son right there
Look up Texas A&M - what is your reaction to that? Or to the criminal bully in the please don’t get this angry thread?
These are all recent
So is the clip of a black man carrying a white counter protester to safety after the latter was injured at a BLM rally in London
Racial violence against people of color is worse than its ever been, especially in Tulsa OK
That’s why the country is going down the SShitter
I admire & respect my black brothers & sisters for taking the high road in the face of white hate - the people whose car was vandalized did this, saying they simply ignored ongoing racial epithets from this skunk - did no good
So, your everything’s fine view, I disagree with
Peace
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Why would they BE STUPID ENOUGH to sign a waiver to give him a "pass" on being held accountable?
Lemmings, all of them...
I plan on going, as I bet some other Allman Brothers fans are going. Are you calling us stupid lemmings?
If the shoe fits.
Please don't wear a mask.
Please get as close to the other knuckle dragging racists as you can.
Please help the sheeple around you yell at the top of their lungs to fill the air with whatever nasty germs they're carrying.
Please attend as many 'rallies" as you can.
This forum will be so much better off.
June 19 -- a date known as Juneteenth, which marks the end of slavery in the United States -
Once again, you can't make this $h!t up.
sorry, no, it didn't mark the end of slavery in the US.
Maryland, Delaware, Kentucky, and Missouri were slave states that remained in the Union.
Slaves were not freed there until the 13th amendment ( the one where it has "except when" as a modifier) had been ratified.
Also, you need to read this:
https://www.history.com/topics/american-civil-war/emancipation-proclamation
The proclamation actually didn't free any slaves.
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The real issue is systemic racism.
Just when you think and hope that P.C. is dead and gone...POOF!...here it is.
"systemic racism"...No. It goes to the individual. Hate is a choice. This Cop is the problem, he alone.
The real issue is systemic racism.
Just when you think and hope that P.C. is dead and gone...POOF!...here it is.
"systemic racism"...No. It goes to the individual. Hate is a choice. This Cop is the problem, he alone.
And the hundreds of examples of it happening over and over again, Is that all on one officer?
The real issue is systemic racism.
Just when you think and hope that P.C. is dead and gone...POOF!...here it is.
"systemic racism"...No. It goes to the individual. Hate is a choice. This Cop is the problem, he alone.
The "system" is what enables it. Like in GA where Arbery's murder by a former cop and his son would have been ignored by the system (the initial investigators and prosecutor) had it not been called out and on video. Also part of the system: those who enable through ignorance by calling systematic racism "politically correct".
The real issue is systemic racism.
Just when you think and hope that P.C. is dead and gone...POOF!...here it is.
"systemic racism"...No. It goes to the individual. Hate is a choice. This Cop is the problem, he alone.The "system" is what enables it. Like in GA where Arbery's murder by a former cop and his son would have been ignored by the system (the initial investigators and prosecutor) had it not been called out and on video. Also part of the system: those who enable through ignorance by calling systematic racism "politically correct".
Funny how the guy who is such a free thinker and unashamed of his views is ashamed to admit to himself that he holds racist view points