The democratic party arguing crime stats is like arguing that crack is less addicitve than heroien.
Yikes, what a snoozefest bomb of a one-liner attempt.
[Edited on 1/10/2019 by BoytonBrother]
If a wall can cut the inflow of drugs and drive down or eliminate the murder rate thats a WIN-WIN.
American legalization of marijuana is already drastically reducing it, but if crediting Daddy Trump makes you feel better, have at it.
Democrats would rather ignore or deny that illegals ARE causing crime.
Why do you need a boogeyman? I’m dying to know what happened to you as a boy.
Lots of good points nebish and I'm sure most Americans feel similarly. Obviously border security is important but a wall will not be the only fix many think it will.
As for the president, it's just a lightning rod topic for him to rile up his supporters. When he said Mexico was going to pay for it, he lost all credibility with sensible thinking citizens regarding the issue. To hell with him.
Countless times throughout our nation's history, immigrants (legal or not) and immigration policies have been targets for political agendas. Sadly, it will continue.
Strat, your voice is a welcome post in these threads!
Trump is over promising on what a wall will do. Additional and upgraded physical barriers can help. The reality is too many of his supporters just think it is the be all-end-all. Trump is not the first person to promote wall/fence on the Mexican border. He is the first one to call for one the entire length, and definitely hit a nerve on both sides. A wall the entire length is virtually impossible anyway. Plus when you hang your hat on Mexico paying for it, then you kind of have to get Mexico to pay for it to maintain any credibility. Ultimately our border security is our responsibility and the only way to do it is take something both sides can agree to. That is our system. He doesn’t/t get it.
“He asked Speaker Pelosi, ‘will you agree to my wall?’ She said no. And he just got up, and said, 'Well we’ve got nothing to discuss,'" Schumer said.
The president, in a tweet, called the meeting “a total waste of time” and appeared to confirm that he left after Pelosi's answer.
“I asked what is going to happen in 30 days if I quickly open things up, are you going to approve Border Security which includes a Wall or Steel Barrier? Nancy said, NO. I said bye-bye, nothing else works!” Trump tweeted.
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Just left a meeting with Chuck and Nancy, a total waste of time. I asked what is going to happen in 30 days if I quickly open things up, are you going to approve Border Security which includes a Wall or Steel Barrier? Nancy said, NO. I said bye-bye, nothing else works!12:34 PM - 9 Jan 2019
The Democrats are under no obligation to do anything. It’s their House. Republicans can not control the agenda any longer. That is the consequences of elections. Sure they gained in the Senate, but lost the House. It is divided government now and Trump acts like people that don’t share his views on what is best must cave to his demands. That is not how it works.
Here is what I would’ve like Pelosi to have said in response to Trump today; “
Mr President I can not agree to your wall funding. What I will do is guarantee to give your bill (or McCarthy’s or whatever they write) a vote on the floor of the House. It is you and your party’s responsibility to craft a bill to garner passage. Mr President, I will will not suppress it and I will let my colleagues vote their own conscious and I see that your bill will get a vote, that is the best I can give you. Whether it passes or not is up to you. Deal?”
“He asked Speaker Pelosi, ‘will you agree to my wall?’ She said no. And he just got up, and said, 'Well we’ve got nothing to discuss,'" Schumer said.
The president, in a tweet, called the meeting “a total waste of time” and appeared to confirm that he left after Pelosi's answer.
“I asked what is going to happen in 30 days if I quickly open things up, are you going to approve Border Security which includes a Wall or Steel Barrier? Nancy said, NO. I said bye-bye, nothing else works!” Trump tweeted.
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Just left a meeting with Chuck and Nancy, a total waste of time. I asked what is going to happen in 30 days if I quickly open things up, are you going to approve Border Security which includes a Wall or Steel Barrier? Nancy said, NO. I said bye-bye, nothing else works!12:34 PM - 9 Jan 2019
The Democrats are under no obligation to do anything. It’s their House. Republicans can not control the agenda any longer. That is the consequences of elections. Sure they gained in the Senate, but lost the House. It is divided government now and Trump acts like people that don’t share his views on what is best must cave to his demands. That is not how it works.
Here is what I would’ve like Pelosi to have said in response to Trump today; “
Mr President I can not agree to your wall funding. What I will do is guarantee to give your bill (or McCarthy’s or whatever they write) a vote on the floor of the House. It is you and your party’s responsibility to craft a bill to garner passage. Mr President, I will will not suppress it and I will let my colleagues vote their own conscious and I see that your bill will get a vote, that is the best I can give you. Whether it passes or not is up to you. Deal?”
Seems like a fair way to handle it, but only if the Senate is allowed to vote on bills the Republicans don't want to bring to a vote as well. It's got to work both ways.
I wouldn't go that far. Plenty of bills passed out of one chamber never sees the light of day with an opposing party controlling the other chamber. I don't like it that way, just the way it is - that is not new and requesting that for this negotiation is a bridge too far.
Specific to this issue, I think that if Trump would sign the government open, then in 30 days Pelosi could've allowed a vote on their border security bill. All you can ask for is a chance, an opportunity. You can't expect to bully people in government to get what you want. That is just who he is, and his own tactics are make my it harder for him to get what he wants. This shutdown is going to have very negative consequences for the Republicans.
Trump has never even told us where more fencing would be constructed. What is the roll out for this $5.7 billion? Tell us. Get it in writing and sell us on why this makes the most sense right now. But he can't. Best he could do is lie and say the Democrats wanted a steel slat fence, or Ballard wall, when in reality that is what border patrol wants.
I think there have already been 8 wall projects started or finished in 2018. So where is the next portion going with this funding? Tell us and why. Some Democrats are still saying they are against a 2000 mile concrete wall when that isn't eve what is on the table here. It is very frustrating to have such ineffective messaging when I too want additional barriers, but the "salesman" isn't selling it in a way to make everyone understand. You don't need to scare or threaten people, reason with them. Democrats have supported walls and wall money before. You have to frame it in a way they can support it again.
[Edited on 1/10/2019 by nebish]
I wouldn't go that far. Plenty of bills passed out of one chamber never sees the light of day with an opposing party controlling the other chamber. I don't like it that way, just the way it is - that is not new and requesting that for this negotiation is a bridge too far.
Specific to this issue, I think that if Trump would sign the government open, then in 30 days Pelosi could've allowed a vote on their border security bill. All you can ask for is a chance, an opportunity. You can't expect to bully people in government to get what you want. That is just who he is, and his own tactics are make my it harder for him to get what he wants. This shutdown is going to have very negative consequences for the Republicans.
Trump has never even told us where more fencing would be constructed. What is the roll out for this $5.7 billion? Tell us. Get it in writing and sell us on why this makes the most sense right now. But he can't. Best he could do is lie and say the Democrats wanted a steel slat fence, or Ballard wall, when in reality that is what border patrol wants.
I think there have already been 8 wall projects started or finished in 2018. So where is the next portion going with this funding? Tell us and why. Some Democrats are still saying they are against a 2000 mile concrete wall when that isn't eve what is on the table here. It is very frustrating to have such ineffective messaging when I too want additional barriers, but the "salesman" isn't selling it in a way to make everyone understand. You don't need to scare or threaten people, reason with them. Democrats have supported walls and wall money before. You have to frame it in a way they can support it again.
[Edited on 1/10/2019 by nebish]
What you're pointing out, Neb, is there are NO ACTUAL DETAILS FOR THE WALL....Mostly because the Wall was and remains nothing more than a campaign slogan. Which is why he made the claim that Mexico would pay for it...A very easy claim given he never had any intention of actually building it. Which is why he initially agreed to the House and Senate bill passed just prior to the shut down.
It was only when two female right wing talk radio personalities called him a pussy for agreeing to McConnell's bill that he suddenly decided to refuse. That should tell everyone just how much of a man child we have in the Oval office. Not only is he incompetent but he's so thin skinned and spineless that he can't even stand up to Ann Coulter and Laura Ingram (sp)....
On Trump's red meat rallies this is what he intended. Of course the lock her up crowd drinking from the Fountain Of Trump understood this at the rallies, and of course this is exactly what Trump meant along. This is comedy gold.
"Trump claims he never said Mexico would cut a check for the wall. Let’s go to the tape."
Lots of good points nebish and I'm sure most Americans feel similarly. Obviously border security is important but a wall will not be the only fix many think it will.
As for the president, it's just a lightning rod topic for him to rile up his supporters. When he said Mexico was going to pay for it, he lost all credibility with sensible thinking citizens regarding the issue. To hell with him.
Countless times throughout our nation's history, immigrants (legal or not) and immigration policies have been targets for political agendas. Sadly, it will continue.
Strat, your voice is a welcome post in these threads!
Trump is over promising on what a wall will do. Additional and upgraded physical barriers can help. The reality is too many of his supporters just think it is the be all-end-all. Trump is not the first person to promote wall/fence on the Mexican border. He is the first one to call for one the entire length, and definitely hit a nerve on both sides. A wall the entire length is virtually impossible anyway. Plus when you hang your hat on Mexico paying for it, then you kind of have to get Mexico to pay for it to maintain any credibility. Ultimately our border security is our responsibility and the only way to do it is take something both sides can agree to. That is our system. He doesn’t/t get it.
Thanks Nebish. You've never made any of your posts personal regardless of topic. Well done.
It's Friday. To hell with all the jive. Black Sabbath's Neon Knights. There's something about Tonny Iommi that's good for one's soul. Cheers!
This is what Congress is like.
Bella is helping out her Mom who is furloughed. She's amazing. We should buy some of that scrub!
https://www.etsy.com/shop/BellaSweetScrubs
Bella started Bella Sweet Scrubs using a recipe she and her mom used to make body scrubs during a day they spent together in December. She began by selling the scrubs to neighbors and friends and now has her own store on Etsy, where she ships them to customers across the country.
https://twitter.com/BellaBerrellez?ref_src ="twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1081406691588100096&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs.yimg.com%2Fos%2Fyc%2Fhtml%2Fembed-iframe-min.2d7621e2.html"
https://twitter.com/hashtag/sweetscrubs?src ="hash"
Virginia Senator Warner introduces legislation to help furloughed workers.
The Federal Employee Civil Relief Act addresses the real threat of federal workers losing their homes, falling behind on student loans and other bills, having their car repossessed, or losing their health insurance because they have been furloughed during a shutdown or required to work without pay. Modeled after the Servicemembers Relief Act, the legislation will prohibit landlords and creditors from taking action against federal workers or contractors who are hurt by the government shutdown and unable to pay rent or repay loans. The bill would also empower federal workers to sue creditors or landlords that violate this protection. The Federal Employee Civil Relief Act would safeguard workers impacted by a shutdown from the following:
Being evicted or foreclosed;
Having their car or other property repossessed;
Falling behind in student loan payments;
Falling behind in paying bills; or
Losing their insurance because of missed premiums.
The protection would last during and 30 days following a shutdown to give workers a chance to keep up with their bills. The partial government shutdown, now in its third week, hurts hundreds of thousands of federal employees and contractors. Virginia alone is home to more than 170,000 federal workers.
Additional cosponsors of the bill include U.S. Sens. Ben Cardin (D-MD), Chris Van Hollen (D-MD), Maggie Hassan (D-NH), Martin Heinrich (D-NM), Cory Booker (D-NJ), Chris Murphy (D-CT), Tammy Baldwin (D-WI), Sherrod Brown (D-OH), Mazie K. Hirono (D-HI) and Catherine Cortez Masto (D-NV).
Remarks: That's nice, but how are the banks going to deal with the 800,000 people not paying for their houses? Where to do they get the money to cover those losses? Will we need another banking bailout if this shut down continues in the long term?
[Edited on 1/18/2019 by gina]
For some workers they will end up declaring bankruptcy such as this couple.
How bad is it? W is delivering pizza to his Secret Service detail. Seriously. There's a picture of him doing it.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/president-george-w-bush-delivers-222826831.html
AND only 21 of the 80 people who take care of the W.H. are reporting to work. At least a chef and a butler are still coming in. If Trump had to live on McDonalds, BK and Wendy's, he's have to do some serious exercise, those meals are great but can add on the pounds.
[Edited on 1/19/2019 by gina]
[Edited on 1/19/2019 by gina]
UPDATES:
There will be votes on Thursday. The proposal set for by the Republican based Senate would end the shutdown funding the agencies currently not being funded, whose workers are not being paid. Those programs would be funded till October 2019 if that legislation is passed. They have 53 votes out of 60 needed to pass it, they have to sway 7 more Democrats for that bill to pass.
Meanwhile the Democrats have their own bills they want to get passed. Mitch McConnell tried to get an amended version of one bill to the floor today, but he did not want to bring it to a vote if there was no chance it would pass. He doesn't want to waste everybody's time and aggravate them any more than they are already aggravated during this stressful time.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/426469-senate-to-vote-on-dueling-government-funding-bills
The FBI is also adding their voice to the voices of please end the shutdown. (since the Justice Department is one of the Departments not being funded during this shutdown. While Trump has been at odds with Mueller and Comey, he certainly understands the importance of the work the agency does.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/22/senate-republicans-shutdown-bill-trump-plan
The Department of Agriculture is also not funded because of the shutdown. They are the ones who control the federal Food Stamp program. They issued The February allotment of food stamps early (by January 20th) because technically, legally the funding was still there in January, but once the calendar hits February 1st, since there is no budget, technically there is no funding for this program either. If the shutdown continues into February, it would then be up to states and local municipalities to decide what if anything they can issue to those in their region. Once the shutdown ends, the funding would (probably) be restored until October 2019 and benefits would then be able to be issued.
there are a lot of things going on with the shutdown effecting many people. HUD is also effected by the shudtown, HUD provides the Section 8 money for poor people to have housing.
While all this is going on, President Trump is also attending to other matters such as scheduling another meeting with Kim Jung Un for February regardless of the shutdown.
[Edited on 1/22/2019 by gina]
People are not terribly optimistic that the shutdown stalemate will end because the duel is between two strong, steadfast people, Nancy Pelosi leading the Democratic opposition and Donald Trump, who does not like to lose.
This is an interesting article that points out while President Trump has had nicknames for everybody else who differed with him in regards to Ms. Pelosi, he refers to her simply as Nancy. The author of the article suggests that he has met his match in terms of a competitor and he respects that.
"She’s taunting him. She’s the matador, he’s the bull."
"The tables had been turned, the master brander outbranded. More than a month later, the label “Trump shutdown” has clung more than any other."
"When he claimed that “Nancy’s in a situation where it’s not easy for her to talk right now,” she put him in his place: “Mr President, please don’t characterise the strength that I bring to this meeting as the leader of the House Democrats, who just won a big victory.”
"She has mastered two political skills he doesn’t even know he’s deficient in. One is she knows how to count votes. Second, she knows how to take advantage of the process. She’s going to deny him TV time: she really knows how to jab him with a needle."
Her own daughter, Alexandra Pelosi, said recently: “She’ll cut your head off and you won’t even know you’re bleeding.”
Comment: Quite a formidable opponent in a battle of wills. The thing is though, Trump does not want to fight. he just wants to do what he believes is the right thing, secure the border, end the shutdown so people can get back to their lives. He was even willing to look at legislation previously presented under Obama's tenure hoping to show show compromise to Democrats, but they will not even acknowledge that. Maybe some Trump supporters need to come to DC and protest in SUPPORT of the President and tell the Democrats to STOP OBSTRUCTING AMERICA. Because they are obstructing it, refusing to let people do their jobs and get paid. Or is it part of a bigger agenda? To cause the government to crumble so they can create something else? A One World Order? How can anybody seriously be against securing the border so that criminals, gangs, drugs do not come across? There really is no logical argument against securing the border.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/20/nancy-pelosi-donald-trump-shutdown
[Edited on 1/22/2019 by gina]
The thing is though, Trump does not want to fight. he just wants to do what he believes is the right thing, secure the border, end the shutdown so people can get back to their lives. He was even willing to look at legislation previously presented under Obama's tenure hoping to show show compromise to Democrats, but they will not even acknowledge that.
Oh, they acknowledged it. The "counter-offer" proposed temporary provisions to permanent matters and included a couple of poison pills that guaranteed the offer being straight-up DOA.
Trump supporters need to come to DC and protest in SUPPORT of the President and tell the Democrats to STOP OBSTRUCTING AMERICA. Because they are obstructing it, refusing to let people do their jobs and get paid. Or is it part of a bigger agenda? To cause the government to crumble so they can create something else? A One World Order? How can anybody seriously be against securing the border so that criminals, gangs, drugs do not come across? There really is no logical argument against securing the border.
“I am proud to shut down the government for border security, Chuck. … I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down. I’m not going to blame you for it.”
You're this guy's biggest cheerleader and even you won't hold him accountable for anything he says or does. If he was half the dealmaker he said he was he would have solved this when he was only 10 votes away during the last legislative session. Any President that can't whip 10 votes to reach a compromised solution is terrible at his job, period.
Democrats have proposed enhancing technology along the border and particularly at border crossings. In all your research, how'd you miss that there's 3,000 Customs and Border Patrol positions that have gone unfilled by the Trump Administration? How about the fact that the ones that we do have aren't getting paid? How do you justify that logic?
Where was President Trump and the Congressional GOP for the first two years of his presidency? WHY WASN'T THIS AN ISSUE UNTIL AFTER THE MIDTERMS?
He made a promise that Mexico would pay for it. Won't happen. Promised a wall that would stretch the entire border. Won't happen. Doesn't even have the people in place in his own Administration that can spin this or work a real deal. For heaven's sake, REBRAND IT. Come up with a combination of strategically placed actual walls, technology, drones, satellite and manpower and rebrand it all as a metaphorical wall. Come up with some clever name for it. NOT THAT HARD.
He's NOT the dealmaker you think he is. He's NOT the character he played on TV.
You cannot run a government by temper tantrum. Period.
Here's another simple idea:
1. McConnell and Schumer broker a deal, or a Democratic bill comes out of the House that they pass and the Senate brokers and passes.
2. Trump vetoes
3. Senate overrides, government opens
Not that hard.
Here's another simple idea:
1. McConnell and Schumer broker a deal, or a Democratic bill comes out of the House that they pass and the Senate brokers and passes.
2. Trump vetoes
3. Senate overrides, government opens
Not that hard.
If only McConnell hadn't gone MIA.When he reappeared, he objected to Sen. Paine's request for a vote on the House bills that have been sitting at the Senate for weeks. At least, he's allowing a vote tomorrow on something.
My thoughts today on the shutdown, is that for the first time in his life, Trump should actually man up, he should step up and apologize and admit he was wrong??? 2 days before he shut things down he stated he was happy to do so and this shutdown was HIS!!! For the first time in his life he needs to do what a man does sometimes, he should step to the podium and open the Government. Men sometimes do tough things, being tough does not mean cheating some poor contractor on a construction project or cheating someone in a lesser position in a business deal. Someone please explain to how Trump's big wall project went from being fully funded by Mexico, to shutting down our own Government in a huge hissy fit when his promises proved false. He should open the Government today and begin immediately cutting full repayment checks to the 800,000 Families who suddenly lost their income!!!!! I can't even imagine the full horror of that, my goodness, unfathomable!!!!! Trump''s idiotic shutdown, to try to cover his idiotic promise that Mexico would build us some stupid wall. Could You endure what these Families are enduring??? It sure would be Hell for me. How can we as Americans tolerate this??? There should be a public email Addy or phone number for Americans to call the pres. But it shouldn't take that, if Trump gave any sh!t about Our Country or People, the shutdown would be ended by noon today and we would move on from there.............Peace.........joe
[Edited on 1/23/2019 by crazyjoe]
My thoughts today on the shutdown, is that for the first time in his life, Trump should actually man up
We're where we are because Trump's manhood was questioned by Ann Coulter & co when he was set to sign the Republican bills to fund the government in December. One dis by her & suddenly, he needs $5B for a wall. The issue was of no real significance to him until then.
He's not a man to be moved by emotion or compassion. His sole motivations are greed & celebrity. He doesn't even care who his fans are - just that he has them.
IMO the quickest way out is for Trump to announce something preposterous like "The border is secure. My job is done." as Pence did regarding the defeat of ISIS. Otherwise, McConnell may turn things around when he realizes his legacy is being tarnished rather than polished by backing Trump.
My thoughts today on the shutdown, is that for the first time in his life, Trump should actually man up
We're where we are because Trump's manhood was questioned by Ann Coulter & co when he was set to sign the Republican bills to fund the government in December. One dis by her & suddenly, he needs $5B for a wall. The issue was of no real significance to him until then.
He's not a man to be moved by emotion or compassion. His sole motivations are greed & celebrity. He doesn't even care who his fans are - just that he has them.
IMO the quickest way out is for Trump to announce something preposterous like "The border is secure. My job is done." as Pence did regarding the defeat of ISIS. Otherwise, McConnell may turn things around when he realizes his legacy is being tarnished rather than polished by backing Trump.
McConnell will only turn when enough members of his caucus are in jeopardy of losing their seats and thus Mitch's post as Majority Leader of the Senate is also jeopardized...The only thing that motivates the self-serving leader is whatever ensures he remain the leader....
It's sickening that the man cares not one iota about the federal employees he's enabling Trump to furlough but only about Mitch McConnell. I truly hope the electorate hold him accountable in 2020 and boot his ass from the leadership position. Sadly, he'll never be defeated for his own seat, but maybe the leadership position.
15 days ago after that infamous last meeting between congressional leadership at the White House with the President, I said that Speaker Pelosi should've told Trump that in exchange for him ending the shut down, she would allow a bill to receive votes on the House floor, that was the best she can do.
Today, 30 House Democrats are saying the same thing.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/rep.-elaine-luria-sends-letter-to-pelosi-urging-compromise-to-end-shutdown/75f66125-415e-4cee-be44-3cce4634006d_note.html?utm_term=.d6970ace8550
We don't know if Trump will accept, but had Pelosi offered this 2 weeks ago I think we would be further ahead than we are now. We also don't know of the Speaker will accept. This is a very reasonable path to be taking, and, that is how it is supposed to work - via a bill that gets voted on, in normal order. Trump should not expect anything more than an opportunity to have his wishes take the form of legislation voted on in Congress.
Rep. Luria, Virginia Democrat, urges Pelosi to offer Trump a vote on border security funding
By Jenna Portnoy
January 23 at 6:10 PMThirty House Democrats, led by freshman Rep. Elaine Luria (D-Va.), on Wednesday sent a letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi urging her to offer President Trump a vote on border security funding if he first agrees to end the prolonged government shutdown.
Luria, who represents a military-heavy district including Virginia Beach, said she would be open to a menu of border security options, including a “physical barrier” of some type.
“He’s not talking about a wall from sea to shining sea,” she said of the president. “That is not what we are talking about. We are talking about physical barriers as recommended by experts.”
The letter marks the first time Luria has publicly engaged the leadership of her party since winning her first bid for public office late last year.
Her office collected signatures from lawmakers throughout the day Wednesday, even as Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Democratic leaders were drafting a proposal to support increased spending on border security, without a wall, if the White House opens the government.
For years, Democrats voted for new fencing and other physical barriers along the southern border. Then Donald Trump was elected president. (JM Rieger/The Washington Post)
Luria’s letter asks Pelosi to offer Trump and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) a deal guaranteeing that the administration’s spending proposal would go through what she called normal order and procedures in the Democratic-majority House of Representatives.
A variety of lawmakers signed it, including two of Luria’s Virginia colleagues, centrist Rep. Abigail Spanberger and the more progressive Rep. Jennifer Wexton. All three freshmen flipped red districts blue in November by appealing to independent and Republican-leaning voters and promising to seek bipartisan solutions once in Congress — helping Democrats to recapture control of the House.
Luria defeated freshman congressman Scott Taylor in a district that voted for Trump by four points in 2016. She won Democratic-leaning voters opposed to the president without turning off conservatives.
Asked whether she worried the letter to Pelosi would alienate Democrats who support her, Luria said voters across the political spectrum want lawmakers to compromise.
“No, I’ve had positive feedback from the district,” she said. “People want to see the government open. They understand the hardship this is causing people. I really have not had any negative feedback.”
Last week she came out strongly against Trump after he canceled military transport for Pelosi and lawmakers — including Luria — to travel to Afghanistan and Belgium.
Luria called the president’s decision “inappropriate” and said his dismissal of the trip as a “public relations event” insulted American troops.
During the campaign, Luria said she has always considered herself a Democrat, but voted for Taylor in the 2016 Republican primary and the general election because she thought he would govern as a moderate.
Virginia has open primaries and does not register voters by party.
[Edited on 1/24/2019 by nebish]
Gotta think LaGuardia's shutdown for an hour along with ripple delays from the NE are worrying Trump far more than what Stone's going to say. He doesn't want to be known as the guy who shut down air travel in the US.
I think the fact that the Senate bill crafted by the Democrats had more Republican votes yesterday than the one Mitch "It's all about Me" McConnell crafted says a great deal about the heat beginning to come down on some Senate Republicans...The cracks are beginning to form and the undying support for Little baby Donnie is beginning so show signs of ending. At least on the issue of a border wall.
Once again the adults in the room will be the ones to bail man child Donnie out of yet another clusterf*ck of his own creation...Just like Fred Trump, the New York/New Jersey Mob, European banks, Russian mafia, Middle East monarchs, etc. have in little Donnie's continual bankruptcies...Always someone else to clean up his mess.
I watched Mobster Don's rambling diatribe today about the 3 week opening. He spent loads of time talking about the need for his wall. He mentioned how he felt for the fed workers - who really believes that? In 3 weeks odds and no wall = right back where we've been for 30+ days. He caved because his numbers are horrible. He is taking the heat. That's what he cares about.
I want to know who are all these fictitious federal workers are whom he talks about who don't get a paycheck and are behind him on the shutdown. Makes perfectly good sense?
Anybody see billionaire Wilbur Ross, Sec of Commerce yesterday say that shutdown impacted workers in need of $ should take out loans. Now that's a member of Trump's cesspool that can identify with ordinary people.
Illegal immigration has been a problem talked around for a long time with no change in the amount of people pouring in. President Trump is the only President not afraid to take this challenge on. It will be a big shame if border security fails to pass. I agree whole-heartedly that the radical left cannot take control of our border situation. I would rather err on the side of more security than less.
Illegal immigration has been a problem talked around for a long time with no change in the amount of people pouring in. President Trump is the only President not afraid to take this challenge on. It will be a big shame if border security fails to pass. I agree whole-heartedly that the radical left cannot take control of our border situation. I would rather err on the side of more security than less.
I hope you don't have children.
I could go lower but I wont.
egal immigration has been a problem talked around for a long time with no change in the amount of people pouring in. President Trump is the only President not afraid to take this challenge on. It will be a big shame if border security fails to pass. I agree whole-heartedly that the radical left cannot take control of our border situation. I would rather err on the side of more security than less.
Hey Goob? Where do you get your information?
