And there isn't a wall around Nancy Pelosi's house either:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/is-this-a-wall-around-nancy-pelosis-home/
There you go making it sound like the only way to keep illegals out is using a wall. That is nonsense.
Oh, and Obama does not have a wall around his house (other than a small privacy wall around a patio). Take a look at this photo from the street.
Wrong again son.
If you had read the article, which uses an old picture:
TMZ first reported in 2017 that the couple was building a fence-like wall and published photos showing what appeared to be the construction of a few brick columns. The project has since been completed.
The wall around Obama's mansion is now completed.
Trump went to Camp David. It is believed that he will declare a National Emergency within days. Most of you who have been around here long enough know the powers a President has when a National Emergency is granted.
part of why not getting the wall built is a national emergency.
We are working hard at the Border, but we need a WALL! In 2018, 1.7 million pounds of narcotics seized, 17,000 adults arrested with criminal records, and 6000 gang members, including MS-13, apprehended. A big Human Trafficking problem.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1081570073867927557
Potential new wall:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1076239448461987841/photo/1
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/07/trump-government-shutdown-border-wall-democrats
Others have reported if there is a National Emergency and no budget deal, the food stamp cuts go into effect for February.
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It is believed that he will declare a National Emergency within days. Most of you who have been around here long enough know the powers a President has when a National Emergency is granted.
Fine - let him try. Flaunting the Constitution. Criminal abuse of power. He will be impeached for sure if he pulls a stunt like that.
I've got an idea on a compromise to get the government open. How about Congress match the money we get from Mexico for the wall at a rate of $10 US taxpayer dollars for every peso Trump can get from Mexico using his incredible negotiation skills. Seems fair. All he has to do is get Mexico to pay for 1% of the wall. Surely a great negotiator can do that, right?
Obama supported border security:
Wrong son. Obama never cared about border security, as evidenced by his failed policies. Prove this nonsensical statement with one quote, I dare you to find one, you can’t, haha, I win.
“'We simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented, unchecked...'” Barrack Obama, 2005"
Bullcrap. This is taken out of context. Nice try troll! Got the full quote genius? If you are trying to prove that Obama understood the significance of LEGAL entry, then prove it with a quote or buzz off!
Obama's full quote at the time: "We simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States, undetected, undocumented, unchecked and circumventing the line of people who are waiting patiently, diligently and lawfully to become immigrants in this country."
Ok fine, you convinced me. Obama was right all along.
Hillary supported border security:
Don’t let Goober see you complimenting Hillary Clinton on policy. He’ll be very hurt and angry!
It is believed that he will declare a National Emergency within days. Most of you who have been around here long enough know the powers a President has when a National Emergency is granted.
Fine - let him try. Flaunting the Constitution. Criminal abuse of power. He will be impeached for sure if he pulls a stunt like that.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/1631
50 U.S. Code § 1631 - Declaration of national emergency by Executive order; authority; publication in Federal Register; transmittal to Congress
When the President declares a national emergency, no powers or authorities made available by statute for use in the event of an emergency shall be exercised unless and until the President specifies the provisions of law under which he proposes that he, or other officers will act. Such specification may be made either in the declaration of a national emergency, or by one or more contemporaneous or subsequent Executive orders published in the Federal Register and transmitted to the Congress.
(Pub. L. 94–412, title III, § 301, Sept. 14, 1976, 90 Stat. 1257.)
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What can he actually do once a National Emergency has been declared?
https://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/emergency-powers
AND he can take on the Deep State too.
https://www.exopolitics.org/trump-executive-order-targets-deep-state-opens-door-to-full-disclosure/
http://www.disastercenter.com/laworder/laworder.htm
Pick your emergency, they have plans for any and all, and EVERYTHING would be under the President's control.
While the current emergency is the border and lack of adequate security, if we are already in a State of National Emergency and anything else happens, he is totally in charge of everything, and guess what, after those elections in Israel, when the Peace Plan is released, there may very well be more emergencies because Muslims in the Middle East will not be welcoming the building of a new temple on Temple Mount. It can lead to war.
I have been telling you about the times we are living in and that the times of the Tribulation are going to happen, that is one of the things that can cause the beginning of it. So yes the idea of creating a state of National Emergency is quite serious.
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On February 16, 1962, President John Kennedy signed several Executive Orders which would allegedly give certain dictatorial powers to appointed bureaucrats in the event a "National Emergency" should be declared by the President — whichever president is sitting in office at the designated time. At the president's discretion "in any time of increased international tension or economic or financial crisis", the E.O.'s could theoretically be enacted.
These E.O.'s signed by Kennedy would give authority to the Federal Emergency Management Agency to control: communications, energy, food, fuel, farms, transportation, highways, railroads, inland waterways and seaports, health, education and welfare, drafts citizens into work forces under government supervision; relocation of populations, designates areas to be abandoned as 'unsafe'; relocates communities, and controls all public storage facilities.
On February 27, 1962 Kennedy signed E.O. 11051 designating FEMA as the authorized agency to implement the above orders, and which authority can be re-designated by the original authority. President Nixon signed E.O. 11490 combining all the above to be enacted in one fell swoop; on July 20, 1979 Carter added a few minor amendments to them; and, in June, 1994 then president Bill Clinton signed E.O. 12919, which appears to encompass all of the E.O.'s.
We have found no Executive Orders that would nullify any of the above, so it appears they are all considered to be on the books at the time of this posting.
Given there is no Constitutional authority for any president to declare a "National Emergency," we have wondered how the orchestraters of this plan expected to successfully execute the E.O.'s. The plan for total control of every aspect of our lives has been under construction for a long time. As you read these executive orders, bear in mind that they mean nothing by themselves. They are not law, nor can they become law by and of themselves.
However, under legislation that is currently pending in most (if not all) states, they could potentially take on significant meaning. The Emergency Health Powers legislation, pending in state capitols all across America — if passed — would give the governor the power to declare a state of health emergency by executive order. He then would be able to hand the reigns of power to whomever he chooses — including the state's emergency management agency, which could essentially act as an arm of the Federal Emergency Management Agency.
Apart from — and sometimes combined with — these Emergency Health Powers Acts are varying forms of "anti-terror" bills that are virtually redefining the words "terror," "terrorism," and "terrorist." States are busy right now, creating their own versions of the federal Office of Homeland Security. These state offices will oversee the process and details of the implementation of these orders. That is why it is so critical to get the legislation stopped in the states. For more information, or to read the bills we've compiled, go to the War on Americans is in the States section of this website.
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/eo/femalist.htm
And now, the list:
Executive Order #10995: Seizure of all communications media in the United States.
Executive Order #10997: Seizure of all electric power fuels and minerals, public and private.
Executive Order #10999: Seizure of all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control of highways, seaports and waterways.
Executive Order #11000: Seizure of all American people for work forces under federal supervision including the splitting of families if the government finds it necessary.
Executive Order #11001: Seizure of all health, education and welfare facilities, public and private.
Executive Order #11002: Empowered the postmaster general to register all men, women and children in the U.S.
Executive Order #11003: Seizure of all airports and aircraft.
Executive Order #11004: Seizure of all housing and finance authorities to establish Forced Relocation Designated areas to be abandoned as "unsafe."
Executive Order #11005: Seizure of all railroads, inland waterways and storage facilities, public and private.
Executive Order #12919: Signs June 3, 1994, by President Clinton. Encompasses all the above executive orders.
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For those who do not think it is a big deal.
When news came in recent days of the U.S. separating parents from children at the border and holding minors in a dedicated tent city in Texas, the phrase "concentration camp" began to appear in descriptions of the new facility.
Andrea Pitzer
@andreapitzer
Yes, of course they're concentration camps. They aren't the unique subset of death camps that were invented by the Nazis for genocide, or even Arctic Gulag camps built for hard labor. But they're camps created to punish a whole class of civilians via mass detention without trial.
REMARKS: "a whole class of civilians mass detention without trial".
What should be done with those who cross the border illegally is simply send them back, not detain anyone in a camp of any sort.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/opinion/american-internment-camps.html
FURTHER REMARKS: And these are not the camps designed to hold rowdy Americans in a time of national unrest, the ones for us are like giant prison camps, one way in and no way out.
https://info.publicintelligence.net/USArmy-InternmentResettlement.pdf
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The Civilian Internment Camps FEMA
https://info.publicintelligence.net/USArmy-InternmentResettlement.pdf
"Additionally, FM 3-39.40 discusses the critical issue of detainee rehabilitation. It describes the doctrinal
foundation, principles, and processes that military police and other elements will employ when dealing with I/R
populations. As part of internment, these populations include U.S. military prisoners, and multiple categories of
detainees (civilian internees [CIs], retained personnel [RP], and enemy "
REMARKS: these are the camps designed to hold prisoners and/or rowdy Americans in a time of national unrest, the ones for us are like giant prison camps, one way in and no way out. Sure they wrote it for prisoners from other countries, but do you think they would not use it in people here in a "national emergency" of civil unrest. They practiced those Jade Helm exercises specifically for that purpose.
For those who think it is just conspiracy theory, it is NOT.
President Regan signed Presidential Director Number 54 in April of 1984 that allowed FEMA to activate a secret national readiness exercise. This exercise was given the code name REX 84. The purpose of the exercise was to test FEMA's ability to assume military authority. REX 84 was so highly guarded that special metal doors were installed on the fifth floor of the FEMA building in Washington, D.C. The only people that were allowed to enter the premises were ones who had a red Christian cross on their shirt. The exercise required the following.....
Suspension of the Constitution of the United States
Turning control of the government over to FEMA
Appointment of military commanders to run state and local governments
Declaration of Martial Law
There over 600 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States.
The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a mass exodus of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention lefts by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons. They can also be used for domestic disturbances, putting US citizens in there if massive civil unrest breaks out. The camps are already there.
Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs which will be implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated for its proper purpose. Garden Plot is the program to control the population. Cable Splicer is the program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the federal government.
People who were effected by the Hurricanes were taken to camps.
https://ktvl.com/news/local/sen-merkley-and-internment-camp-survivor-warn-about-history-repeating-itself
REMARKS: That's it, I am done for today and NO I am not saying Trump plans to put us in concentration camps, but I want you to be aware that these camps DO exist, and the Executive Orders granting him the power to do that in civil unrest exist. They existed under Obama, Bush, Clinton, and the others. All I am saying is be aware of prophecy, be aware of political things going on worldwide.
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Let Trump throw his tantrums and declare emergency. It will satisfy his base, but create tensions within his own administration and among the military who will be executing the order. Let him serve his base until he’s gone if that’s what he wants. It will also alienate Republicans in Washington who are currently on his side. Keep it up Don!
Original Goober wrote: "The wall resistance is more of a liberal idea that a big scary wall will clash with the American concept living in a liberals head."
That is an emotional response rather than a factual one. Here are some facts:
1. Our own officials report that most drugs enter our country through our legal points of entry. Thus, a wall will not solve the problem.
2. Stats show that most illegal aliens are people who have overstayed their visas. Thus a wall will not solve the problem.
There are plenty of obvious other considerations:
Do you want to invoke Eminent Domain to take private citizens' land away as needed for the wall?
Have you considered the environmental impact presented by the wall?
Do you understand that all walls require expensive maintenance?
Are you aware of the ways that modern technology has allowed walls or other boundaries to be subverted? It was not too long ago that incredibly advanced tunnels from Mexico to the US were discovered, for example.
To say that "Anyone who does not want a wall does not want border security" is absurd; it is like saying "Anyone who does not own a horse and carriage does not want to travel." We live in 2019, and technology offers plenty of alternatives that would be more effective and less expensive.
Look at the stats for deportations under Obama. Clearly his administration was taking steps to combat the illegals' presence here. Meanwhile, we also know that there have been illegals working at Trump's places.
I know memes offer tidbits of info that are easy talking points, but plenty of people who do their homework know that a wall is not a panacea.
Great post JimSheridan, but Goober doesn’t engage. He posts and runs.
The wall resistance is more of a liberal idea that a big scary wall will clash with the American concept living in a liberals head.
Secondly, just to point out how silly this is.....why would liberals see it as scary if they aren’t afraid of the problem?
Original Goober wrote: "The wall resistance is more of a liberal idea that a big scary wall will clash with the American concept living in a liberals head."
That is an emotional response rather than a factual one. Here are some facts:
1. Our own officials report that most drugs enter our country through our legal points of entry. Thus, a wall will not solve the problem.
2. Stats show that most illegal aliens are people who have overstayed their visas. Thus a wall will not solve the problem.
There are plenty of obvious other considerations:
Do you want to invoke Eminent Domain to take private citizens' land away as needed for the wall?
Have you considered the environmental impact presented by the wall?
Do you understand that all walls require expensive maintenance?
Are you aware of the ways that modern technology has allowed walls or other boundaries to be subverted? It was not too long ago that incredibly advanced tunnels from Mexico to the US were discovered, for example.To say that "Anyone who does not want a wall does not want border security" is absurd; it is like saying "Anyone who does not own a horse and carriage does not want to travel." We live in 2019, and technology offers plenty of alternatives that would be more effective and less expensive.
Look at the stats for deportations under Obama. Clearly his administration was taking steps to combat the illegals' presence here. Meanwhile, we also know that there have been illegals working at Trump's places.
I know memes offer tidbits of info that are easy talking points, but plenty of people who do their homework know that a wall is not a panacea.
Hopefully my points of view will never be confused with Goobers, but since I support more wall, or fence, barrier, whatever on the Mexican border I'd like to respond since I assume he will not.
If just a portion of the drugs come across the border between legal points of entry, maybe 20%, that is still a portion that can be restricted or reduced. Thereby making them move more through legal ports, potentially increasing the chance of capture, or making it more difficult on the movement of the drugs to circumvent where the additional barrier is.
I agree, visa overstays is a very large contributor to the illegal immigration problem. Just because a wall doesn't address that, doesn't mean that a wall keeping other illegal aliens from crossing isn't needed also. FY2019 numbers for October and November show that Southern Border Patrol apprehensions were over 51,000 each month. A total of 396,579 were apprehended in FY2018. And how many do they catch, half?
That is a problem and a problem that needs addressed further. I am fine if we do that with additional personnel, detention facilities, technology and yes barriers. They all play a role. A wall should not be built across the entire border, a wall doesn't need build everywhere. But where physical barriers make sense, they should be built and they should be difficult for anyone to try and navigate over, through or under.
Tunnels? We eventually find tunnels. But an example that we have made it harder for them to come. They have to dig tunnels and the work and time it takes to do that. Good, harder for them, takes them longer that is good.
I do not have much concern about environmental impact of additional construction at the border.
Eminent Domain is an issue, but it will have to be dealt with just like any other state or federal project deals with it. There is a procedure.
Maintenance = a maintenance job for someone.
Modern tech is great, and advancing. I like it. It all can and should work together to achieve the ultimate end goal, reducing as many illegal border crossings as possible. It will never get to zero, where there is a will there is a way, but I surely would hope we can substantially cut it from the 50,xxx a month we have seen recently.
Illegal immigration is a national emergency. But the entire issue is the emergency. The VISA overstays, the lack or serious punishment for employers who hire, the lack of e-verity, the 11-22 million illegals that are here (Yale 2018 study said 22million, most have it lower), the identity theft, the financial burden of educating and medical costs.
I do not know if the President is going to declare a national emergency. What I do know, is that it should not be done just to build a wall, but this issue, overall, is indeed a national emergency.
Illegal immigration is a national emergency. But the entire issue is the emergency. The VISA overstays, the lack or serious punishment for employers who hire, the lack of e-verity, the 11-22 million illegals that are here (Yale 2018 study said 22million, most have it lower), the identity theft, the financial burden of educating and medical costs.
I do not know if the President is going to declare a national emergency. What I do know, is that it should not be done just to build a wall, but this issue, overall, is indeed a national emergency.
Whether there is or isn't, the only thing being discussed IS a wall, so...
You mention holding Americans accountable, such as penalties for hiring illegals. Does that apply to employers, like, oh, Mar-A-Lago?
Illegal immigration is a national emergency. But the entire issue is the emergency. The VISA overstays, the lack or serious punishment for employers who hire, the lack of e-verity, the 11-22 million illegals that are here (Yale 2018 study said 22million, most have it lower), the identity theft, the financial burden of educating and medical costs.
I do not know if the President is going to declare a national emergency. What I do know, is that it should not be done just to build a wall, but this issue, overall, is indeed a national emergency.
Whether there is or isn't, the only thing being discussed IS a wall, so...
You mention holding Americans accountable, such as penalties for hiring illegals. Does that apply to employers, like, oh, Mar-A-Lago?
I absolutely would support felony charges with mandatory jail time for repeat employers who hire illegal aliens without proper work visas.
I think national emergency is a bit much actually. It is a crisis. Lots of crisis around. If he declares a national emergency for wall construction I would not support that even though I do support devoting more resources to border security. The overall issue needs reformed, which is hard to see happening at this point.
I’m sorry, but if you speak to Latino immigrants, both legal and illegal, they laugh at the wall. Trump isn’t even trying to hide that the wall is a symbol, and not meant to actually keep out Mexicans. He said this! He actually admitted it, and people still want it. Crazy.
Trump will eventually build his wall, he’ll tweet out a spun statistic that supports his narrative, and all the Goober’s of the world will celebrate a “win” over the lefties, while in reality, illegal immigration hasn’t changed one bit. $5billion to help dysfunctional America “feel better”, rather than be given to veterans.
Original Goober wrote: "The wall resistance is more of a liberal idea that a big scary wall will clash with the American concept living in a liberals head."
That is an emotional response rather than a factual one. Here are some facts:
1. Our own officials report that most drugs enter our country through our legal points of entry. Thus, a wall will not solve the problem.
2. Stats show that most illegal aliens are people who have overstayed their visas. Thus a wall will not solve the problem.
There are plenty of obvious other considerations:
Do you want to invoke Eminent Domain to take private citizens' land away as needed for the wall?
Have you considered the environmental impact presented by the wall?
Do you understand that all walls require expensive maintenance?
Are you aware of the ways that modern technology has allowed walls or other boundaries to be subverted? It was not too long ago that incredibly advanced tunnels from Mexico to the US were discovered, for example.To say that "Anyone who does not want a wall does not want border security" is absurd; it is like saying "Anyone who does not own a horse and carriage does not want to travel." We live in 2019, and technology offers plenty of alternatives that would be more effective and less expensive.
Look at the stats for deportations under Obama. Clearly his administration was taking steps to combat the illegals' presence here. Meanwhile, we also know that there have been illegals working at Trump's places.
I know memes offer tidbits of info that are easy talking points, but plenty of people who do their homework know that a wall is not a panacea.
Hopefully my points of view will never be confused with Goobers, but since I support more wall, or fence, barrier, whatever on the Mexican border I'd like to respond since I assume he will not.
If just a portion of the drugs come across the border between legal points of entry, maybe 20%, that is still a portion that can be restricted or reduced. Thereby making them move more through legal ports, potentially increasing the chance of capture, or making it more difficult on the movement of the drugs to circumvent where the additional barrier is.
I agree, visa overstays is a very large contributor to the illegal immigration problem. Just because a wall doesn't address that, doesn't mean that a wall keeping other illegal aliens from crossing isn't needed also. FY2019 numbers for October and November show that Southern Border Patrol apprehensions were over 51,000 each month. A total of 396,579 were apprehended in FY2018. And how many do they catch, half?
That is a problem and a problem that needs addressed further. I am fine if we do that with additional personnel, detention facilities, technology and yes barriers. They all play a role. A wall should not be built across the entire border, a wall doesn't need build everywhere. But where physical barriers make sense, they should be built and they should be difficult for anyone to try and navigate over, through or under.
Tunnels? We eventually find tunnels. But an example that we have made it harder for them to come. They have to dig tunnels and the work and time it takes to do that. Good, harder for them, takes them longer that is good.
I do not have much concern about environmental impact of additional construction at the border.
Eminent Domain is an issue, but it will have to be dealt with just like any other state or federal project deals with it. There is a procedure.
Maintenance = a maintenance job for someone.
Modern tech is great, and advancing. I like it. It all can and should work together to achieve the ultimate end goal, reducing as many illegal border crossings as possible. It will never get to zero, where there is a will there is a way, but I surely would hope we can substantially cut it from the 50,xxx a month we have seen recently.
Illegal immigration is a national emergency. But the entire issue is the emergency. The VISA overstays, the lack or serious punishment for employers who hire, the lack of e-verity, the 11-22 million illegals that are here (Yale 2018 study said 22million, most have it lower), the identity theft, the financial burden of educating and medical costs.
I do not know if the President is going to declare a national emergency. What I do know, is that it should not be done just to build a wall, but this issue, overall, is indeed a national emergency.
Lots of good points nebish and I'm sure most Americans feel similarly. Obviously border security is important but a wall will not be the only fix many think it will.
As for the president, it's just a lightning rod topic for him to rile up his supporters. When he said Mexico was going to pay for it, he lost all credibility with sensible thinking citizens regarding the issue. To hell with him.
Countless times throughout our nation's history, immigrants (legal or not) and immigration policies have been targets for political agendas. Sadly, it will continue.
Illegal immigration is a national emergency. But the entire issue is the emergency. The VISA overstays, the lack or serious punishment for employers who hire, the lack of e-verity, the 11-22 million illegals that are here (Yale 2018 study said 22million, most have it lower), the identity theft, the financial burden of educating and medical costs.
I do not know if the President is going to declare a national emergency. What I do know, is that it should not be done just to build a wall, but this issue, overall, is indeed a national emergency.
Whether there is or isn't, the only thing being discussed IS a wall, so...
You mention holding Americans accountable, such as penalties for hiring illegals. Does that apply to employers, like, oh, Mar-A-Lago?
I absolutely would support felony charges with mandatory jail time for repeat employers who hire illegal aliens without proper work visas.
I think national emergency is a bit much actually. It is a crisis. Lots of crisis around. If he declares a national emergency for wall construction I would not support that even though I do support devoting more resources to border security. The overall issue needs reformed, which is hard to see happening at this point.
There is a national emergency & crisis, and he sleeps in the White House.
Illegal immigration is a national emergency. But the entire issue is the emergency. The VISA overstays, the lack or serious punishment for employers who hire, the lack of e-verity, the 11-22 million illegals that are here (Yale 2018 study said 22million, most have it lower), the identity theft, the financial burden of educating and medical costs.
I do not know if the President is going to declare a national emergency. What I do know, is that it should not be done just to build a wall, but this issue, overall, is indeed a national emergency.
Whether there is or isn't, the only thing being discussed IS a wall, so...
You mention holding Americans accountable, such as penalties for hiring illegals. Does that apply to employers, like, oh, Mar-A-Lago?
I absolutely would support felony charges with mandatory jail time for repeat employers who hire illegal aliens without proper work visas.
I think national emergency is a bit much actually. It is a crisis. Lots of crisis around. If he declares a national emergency for wall construction I would not support that even though I do support devoting more resources to border security. The overall issue needs reformed, which is hard to see happening at this point.
There is a national emergency & crisis, and he sleeps in the White House.
A national emergency made clearer by the day....For instance the Syria withdrawal confusion of just the past 72 hours should make it crystal clear just how incompetent this administration is. Bolton was given the middle finger by the Turks today and our Secretary of State is saying things to very concerned allies within the region completely at odds with Trump....A dangerous situation all created by the idiot occupying the White House.
Meanwhile, Mitch McConnell is AWOL in his responsibility for oversight of the Presidency on the domestic front with this shut down mess....Again, a mess created by Little Idiot.
Some good info in here from the BBC.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46792676
US law allows the president to direct military construction projects during war or national emergency, but that money would have to come from defence department funds allocated by Congress for other purposes, the BBC's Anthony Zurcher says.
US media are reporting that Mr Trump will not declare a national emergency on Tuesday evening, in a bid to launch construction of a wall by circumventing Congress.
The article below does point out that "310,531 people were apprehended trying to cross the southern border illegally in 2017" though it also says that 600,000 came by air overstaying their visas. But that does not engate the 310,531 who CAME ILLEGALLY ACROSS THE LAND BORDER>
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/08/trump-fact-check-speech-immigration-border-security
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Coast Guard Families given tips to survive the shutdown BY the Coast Guard includes having garage sales.
Employees of the U.S. Coast Guard who are facing a long U.S. government shutdown just received a suggestion: To get by without pay, consider holding a garage sale, babysitting, dog-walking or serving as a “mystery shopper.”
The suggestions were part of a five-page tip sheet published by the Coast Guard Support Program, an employee-assistance arm of the service often known as CG SUPRT. It is designated to offer Coast Guard members help with mental-health issues or other concerns about their lives, including financial wellness.
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“He asked Speaker Pelosi, ‘will you agree to my wall?’ She said no. And he just got up, and said, 'Well we’ve got nothing to discuss,'" Schumer said.
The president, in a tweet, called the meeting “a total waste of time” and appeared to confirm that he left after Pelosi's answer.
“I asked what is going to happen in 30 days if I quickly open things up, are you going to approve Border Security which includes a Wall or Steel Barrier? Nancy said, NO. I said bye-bye, nothing else works!” Trump tweeted.
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Just left a meeting with Chuck and Nancy, a total waste of time. I asked what is going to happen in 30 days if I quickly open things up, are you going to approve Border Security which includes a Wall or Steel Barrier? Nancy said, NO. I said bye-bye, nothing else works!
12:34 PM - 9 Jan 2019
I have a crazy idea. Maybe he can get Mexico to pay for the wall. I wonder if he ever thought about doing that?
The democratic party arguing crime stats is like arguing that crack is less addicitve than heroien.
The democratic party arguing crime stats is like arguing that crack is less addicitve than heroien.
WTF does that even mean & what does it have to do w/this thread?
The democratic party arguing crime stats is like arguing that crack is less addicitve than heroien.
WTF does that even mean & what does it have to do w/this thread?
THere has been a statitstic quoted by MSM that Illegals are more deserving because they commit less violent crime than legal residents. The number is slightly lower but look at that homicide rate... wowwiee. Sad..... If a wall can cut the inflow of drugs and drive down or eliminate the murder rate thats a WIN-WIN. Democrats would rather ignore or deny that illegals ARE causing crime. Future voters and all.....
