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2021 - and beyond

 
Posted : June 24, 2021 8:32 am
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Power 5 Conference Odds

NCAAF 2021-2022 ACC Conference Winner

Team Record Current Opening
Miami
(0-0-0)
+700
+1,000
NC State
(0-0-0)
+1,800
+1,600
Louisville
(0-0-0)
+2,500
+2,200
Pittsburgh
(0-0-0)
+5,000
+3,300
Georgia Tech
(0-0-0)
+6,600
+5,000
Wake Forest
(0-0-0)
+6,600
+5,000
Syracuse
(0-0-0)
+10,000
+8,000

 

NCAAF 2021-2022 BIG Ten Conference Winner

Team Record Current Opening
Ohio State
(0-0-0)
-167
-110
Wisconsin
(0-0-0)
+800
+1,200
Iowa
(0-0-0)
+1,200
+1,100
Michigan
(0-0-0)
+1,600
+700
Nebraska
(0-0-0)
+1,800
+2,000
Minnesota
(0-0-0)
+1,800
+2,000
Indiana
(0-0-0)
+1,800
+1,600
Northwestern
(0-0-0)
+3,300
+1,400

 

NCAAF 2021-2022 Big 12 Conference Winner

Team Record Current Opening
Oklahoma
(0-0-0)
-143
-125
Iowa State
(0-0-0)
+225
+250
Texas
(0-0-0)
+600
+350
Oklahoma State
(0-0-0)
+1,000
+700
Texas Christian
(0-0-0)
+1,400
+2,800
Texas Tech
(0-0-0)
+5,000
+4,000

 

NCAAF 2021-2022 PAC-12 Conference Winner

Team Record Current Opening
Oregon
(0-0-0)
+275
+225
Washington
(0-0-0)
+275
+450
Southern California
(0-0-0)
+400
+350
Arizona State
(0-0-0)
+450
+500
UCLA
(0-0-0)
+1,200
+1,000
Utah
(0-0-0)
+1,200
+1,800
Colorado
(0-0-0)
+2,000
+3,300
Stanford
(0-0-0)
+2,800
+1,200

 

NCAAF 2021-2022 SEC Conference Winner

Team Record Current Opening
Alabama
(0-0-0)
-167
+100
Georgia
(0-0-0)
+250
+250
Texas A&M
(0-0-0)
+1,000
+700
Louisiana State
(0-0-0)
+1,200
+1,000
Florida
(0-0-0)
+1,400
+1,200
Auburn
(0-0-0)
+2,200
+1,600
Mississippi
(0-0-0)
+2,500
+2,500
Missouri
(0-0-0)
+2,500
+1,600
Kentucky
(0-0-0)
+4,000
+5,000
Arkansas
(0-0-0)
+10,000
+10,000
Mississippi State
(0-0-0)
+10,000
+10,000
Tennessee
(0-0-0)
+10,000
+4,000
South Carolina
(0-0-0)
+15,000
+15,000
Vanderbilt
(0-0-0)
+50,000
+50,000

 

 
Posted : June 24, 2021 8:35 am
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Group of 5 Conference Odds

NCAAF 2021-2022 AAC Conference Winner

Team Record Current Opening
Cincinnati
(0-0-0)
-230
-200
Central Florida
(0-0-0)
+450
+400
Tulsa
(0-0-0)
+900
+800
Memphis
(0-0-0)
+1,000
+1,000
Houston
(0-0-0)
+1,200
+1,200
Tulane
(0-0-0)
+1,200
+1,200
Southern Methodist
(0-0-0)
+2,500
+2,500
East Carolina
(0-0-0)
+5,000
+5,000
South Florida
(0-0-0)
+10,000
+10,000
Navy
(0-0-0)
+10,000
+10,000
Temple
(0-0-0)
+20,000
+20,000

 

NCAAF 2021-2022 C-USA Conference Winner

Team Record Current Opening
Marshall
(0-0-0)
+250
+250
UAB
(0-0-0)
+275
+275
Texas-San Antonio
(0-0-0)
+350
+300
Western Kentucky
(0-0-0)
+700
+1,000
Florida Atlantic
(0-0-0)
+900
+800
Rice
(0-0-0)
+1,600
+1,600
Southern Miss
(0-0-0)
+1,800
+1,800
Old Dominion
(0-0-0)
+2,800
+2,800
Louisiana Tech
(0-0-0)
+2,800
+2,800
North Texas
(0-0-0)
+2,800
+2,800
Charlotte
(0-0-0)
+3,300
+3,300
Florida International
(0-0-0)
+3,300
+3,300
Middle Tennessee
(0-0-0)
+3,300
+3,300
Texas El Paso
(0-0-0)
+10,000
+10,000

 

NCAAF 2021-2022 MAC Conference Winner

Team Record Current Opening
Buffalo
(0-0-0)
+300
+200
Ball State
(0-0-0)
+350
+350
Toledo
(0-0-0)
+350
+450
Central Michigan
(0-0-0)
+450
+450
Ohio
(0-0-0)
+750
+750
Western Michigan
(0-0-0)
+1,200
+1,200
Kent State
(0-0-0)
+1,400
+1,400
Eastern Michigan
(0-0-0)
+2,200
+2,200
Miami (Ohio)
(0-0-0)
+3,300
+3,300
Northern Illinois
(0-0-0)
+4,000
+4,000
Akron
(0-0-0)
+10,000
+10,000
Bowling Green
(0-0-0)
+15,000
+15,000

 

NCAAF 2021-2022 Mountain West Conference Winner

Team Record Current Opening
Boise State
(0-0-0)
-110
+110
Nevada
(0-0-0)
+450
+400
San Jose State
(0-0-0)
+500
+400
Wyoming
(0-0-0)
+700
+700
Hawaii
(0-0-0)
+1,000
+1,000
San Diego State
(0-0-0)
+1,400
+1,400
Fresno State
(0-0-0)
+2,200
+2,200
Air Force
(0-0-0)
+2,800
+2,800
Colorado State
(0-0-0)
+4,000
+4,000
Utah State
(0-0-0)
+5,000
+5,000
New Mexico
(0-0-0)
+15,000
+20,000
UNLV
(0-0-0)
+20,000
+20,000

 

NCAAF 2021-2022 Sun Belt Conference Winner

Team Record Current Opening
UL Lafayette
(0-0-0)
+125
+125
Coastal Carolina
(0-0-0)
+200
+200
Appalachian State
(0-0-0)
+400
+400
Troy
(0-0-0)
+1,600
+1,600
Georgia St.
(0-0-0)
+1,800
+1,800
Texas State
(0-0-0)
+2,500
+2,500
Arkansas St.
(0-0-0)
+2,500
+2,500
Georgia Southern
(0-0-0)
+3,300
+3,300
South Alabama
(0-0-0)
+5,000
+5,000
UL Monroe
(0-0-0)
+10,000
+10,000

 

 
Posted : June 24, 2021 8:37 am
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Some of those are incomplete...namely the ACC and Big Ten.  Here is complete ACC and B1G conference odds.

Screenshot 2021 06 24 Football Betting Odds Lines College Football   Conference Winner DraftKings Sportsbook
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Posted : June 24, 2021 8:45 am
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Picked up a few Phil Steele books today. Let the preparation begin!

 
Posted : June 26, 2021 3:57 pm
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Big Xll media days are upon us!

League Media Day Schedules:

Big Xll 7/14 and 7/15

SEC 7/19 - 7/22

MAC 7/20

ACC 7/21 and 7/22

CUSA 7/21 and 7/22

MWC 7/21 and 7/22

Sun Belt 7/22

Big Ten 7/22 and 7/23

PAC12 7/27

AAC 8/4

 

 
Posted : July 15, 2021 11:09 am
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Saturday, August 28th
Nebraska at Illinois 12:00 pm FOX (cable) / FOX Video
Hawaii at UCLA 2:30 pm ESPN / ESPN Video
Eastern Illinois at Indiana State 5:00 pm TBA
Alcorn vs. NC Central 6:00 pm ESPN / ESPN Video
UConn at Fresno State TBA CBSSN / CBS Video
UTEP at New Mexico State 8:30 pm Bally Spots / $Flo Video
Southern Utah at San Jose State 9:00 pm CBSSN / CBS Video

 

Wednesday, September 1st

UAB vs. Jacksonville State (Montgomery, AL) 6:30 pm ESPN / ESPN Video

 

Thursday, September 2nd

Temple at Rutgers 5:30 pm BTN / FOX Video
Boise State at UCF 6:00 pm ESPN / ESPN Video
Appalachian State vs. East Carolina (Charlotte, NC) 6:30 pm ESPNU / ESPN Video
South Florida at NC State 6:30 pm ACC Network / / ESPN Video
Bowling Green at Tennessee 7:00 pm SEC Network / ESPN Video
Ohio State at Minnesota 7:00 pm FOX (cable) / FOX Video
Eastern Washington at UNLV 9:00 pm FSN / Stadium (affiliates) / FSGo Video
Southern Utah at Arizona State 9:30 pm Pac-12 / Pac-12 Video
Weber State at Utah TBA Pac-12 / Pac-12 Video
Games online only or not scheduled for nationally available networks.
Austin Peay at Chattanooga 6:30 pm TBA
Citadel at Coastal Carolina 6:00 pm $espn+ Video
Houston Baptist at New Mexico TBA TBA
Incarnate Word at Youngstown State 6:00 pm TBA
LIU at Florida International 6:00 pm espn3 Video
MVSU at Murray State TBA $espn+ Video
North American at Lamar TBA TBA
Reinhardt at Kennesaw State 7:00 pm TBA
SHSU at Northern Arizona TBA TBA
Southern Illinois at SEMO TBA SECN+ Video / $espn+ Video
Tennessee Tech at Samford TBA TBA
UC Davis at Tulsa 6:30 pm $espn+ Video
UIW at Youngstown State 6:00 pm TBA
UT Martin at Western Kentucky 7:00 pm $espn+ Video
Wagner at Buffalo 6:00 pm espn3 Video
Western Illinois at Ball State 6:00 pm $espn+ Video

 

Friday, September 3rd

North Carolina at Virginia Tech 5:00 pm ESPN / ESPN Video
Duke at Charlotte 6:00 pm CBSSN / CBS Video
Old Dominion at Wake Forest 6:00 pm ACC Network / / ESPN Video
Michigan State at Northwestern 8:00 pm ESPN / ESPN Video
Northern Colorado at Colorado 8:00 pm Pac-12 / Pac-12 Video
South Dakota State at Colorado State 8:00 pm FS1 / FSGo
Games online only or not scheduled for nationally available networks.
South Dakota at Kansas 7:00 pm $espn+ Video
St. Francis at Eastern Michigan 6:00 pm espn3 Video

 

Saturday, September 4th

Army at Georgia State 11:00 am ESPNU / ESPN Video
Colgate at Boston College 11:00 am ACC Network / / ESPN Video
Fordham at Nebraska 11:00 am BTN / FOX Video
Holy Cross at UConn 11:00 am CBSSN / CBS Video
Kansas State vs. Stanford (in Arlington) 11:00 am FS1 / FSGo
Louisiana Monroe at Kentucky 11:00 am SEC Network / ESPN Video
Oklahoma at Tulane 11:00 am ABC (cable) / espn3 Video
Penn State at Wisconsin 11:00 am FOX (cable) / FOX Video
Western Michigan at Michigan 11:00 am ESPN / ESPN Video
Fresno State at Oregon 1:00 pm Pac-12 / Pac-12 Video
Lafayette at Air Force 1:00 pm FSN / Stadium (affiliates) / FSGo Video
Alabama vs. Miami (Atlanta) 2:30 pm ABC (cable) / espn3 Video
Indiana at Iowa 2:30 pm BTN / FOX Video
Marshall at Navy 2:30 pm CBSSN / CBS Video
West Virginia at Maryland 2:30 pm ESPN / ESPN Video
Central Michigan at Missouri 3:00 pm SEC Network / ESPN Video
Louisiana Tech at Mississippi State 3:00 pm ESPNU / ESPN Video
UMass at Pittsburgh 3:00 pm ACC Network / / ESPN Video
Louisiana Lafayette at Texas 3:30 pm FOX (cable) / FOX Video
San Jose State at USC 4:00 pm Pac-12 / Pac-12 Video
Oregon State at Purdue 6:00 pm FS1 / FSGo
Syracuse at Ohio 6:00 pm CBSSN / CBS Video
Texas Tech at Houston 6:00 pm ESPN / ESPN Video
Clemson vs. Georgia (Charlotte, NC) 6:30 pm ABC (cable) / espn3 Video
Florida Atlantic at Florida 6:30 pm SEC Network / ESPN Video
Northern Illinois at Georgia Tech 6:30 pm ACC Network / / ESPN Video
UTSA at Illinois 6:30 pm BTN / FOX Video
Kent State at Texas A&M 7:00 pm ESPNU / ESPN Video
Montana at Washington 7:00 pm Pac-12 / Pac-12 Video
LSU at UCLA 7:30 pm FOX (cable) / FOX Video
Arizona vs. BYU (Las Vegas) 9:30 pm ESPN / ESPN Video
Nevada at California 9:30 pm FS1 / FSGo
New Mexico State at San Diego State 9:30 pm CBSSN / CBS Video
Utah State at Washington State 10:00 pm Pac-12 / Pac-12 Video
Games online only or not scheduled for nationally available networks.
Abilene Christian at SMU 6:00 pm $espn+ Video
Akron at Auburn 6:00 pm SECN+ Video / $espn+ Video
Baylor at Texas State 6:00 pm $espn+ Video
Bethune Cookman at UTEP 8:00 pm espn3 Video
BYU vs. Arizona (in Las Vegas) TBA TBA
Campbell at Liberty 5:00 pm espn3 Video
Central Arkansas at Arkansas State 6:00 pm espn3 Video
Duquesne at TCU 7:00 pm $espn+ Video
Eastern Illinois at South Carolina 6:00 pm SECN+ Video / $espn+ Video
ETSU at Vanderbilt 7:00 pm SECN+ Video / $espn+ Video
Gardner Webb at Georgia Southern 5:00 pm espn3 Video
Miami Ohio at Cincinnati 2:30 pm $espn+ Video
Miles at Alabama State TBA Youtube Video
Missouri State at Oklahoma State 6:00 pm $espn+ Video
Monmouth at MTSU 6:00 pm espn3 Video
Montana State at Wyoming TBA TBA
Nicholls at Memphis 6:00 pm $espn+ Video
Norfolk State at Toledo 6:00 pm espn3 Video
Northern Iowa at Iowa State 2:30 pm $espn+ Video
Northwestern State at North Texas 6:30 pm espn3 Video
Portland State at Hawaii TBA TBA
Rice at Arkansas 11:00 am SECN+ Video / $espn+ Video
Southern at Troy 6:00 pm espn3 Video
Southern Miss at South Alabama 7:00 pm $espn+ Video
William & Mary at Virginia 6:30 pm espn3 Video

 

Sunday, September 5th

Florida A&M vs. Jackson State 2:00 pm ESPN2 / ESPN Video
Grambling vs. Tennessee State 3:00 pm TBA
Cramton Bowl: Fort Valley State vs. Tuskegee 6:00 pm ESPNU / ESPN Video
Notre Dame at Florida State 6:30 pm ABC (cable) / espn3 Video

 

Monday, September 6th

Louisville vs. Ole Miss (Atlanta) 7:00 pm

ESPN / ESPN Video

All times Central

 
Posted : July 22, 2021 2:07 pm
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Ah hell!  36 days until live college football games and nobody wants to talk about nothing?

Even the stuff I hate talking about I'll bring here...12 team playoff, NIL, immediate eligible 1-time transfers, Texas and OU rumors to the SEC

 
Posted : July 22, 2021 8:20 pm
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25 days to go

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https://sports.yahoo.com/is-this-the-secret-to-unseating-alabama-clemson-and-ohio-state-233658958.html

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Posted : August 5, 2021 7:46 am
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Ah hell!  36 days until live college football games and nobody wants to talk about nothing?

Even the stuff I hate talking about I'll bring here...12 team playoff, NIL, immediate eligible 1-time transfers, Texas and OU rumors to the SEC

Okay, how is that kid from Texas allowed to skip his last year of high school (even though I guess he can graduate) so he can play QB at Ohio State to get in on the NIL thing? And apparently his family doesn't need the money. Yeah right. Plus the odds of him even playing for a year or two don't seem that great to me.

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/will-americas-no-1-qb-recruit-quinn-ewers-give-up-7-figure-nil-offers-for-one-more-season-of-texas-high-school-football-200803437.html

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Posted : August 6, 2021 11:16 am
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Ah hell!  36 days until live college football games and nobody wants to talk about nothing?

Even the stuff I hate talking about I'll bring here...12 team playoff, NIL, immediate eligible 1-time transfers, Texas and OU rumors to the SEC

Okay, how is that kid from Texas allowed to skip his last year of high school (even though I guess he can graduate) so he can play QB at Ohio State to get in on the NIL thing? And apparently his family doesn't need the money. Yeah right. Plus the odds of him even playing for a year or two don't seem that great to me.

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/will-americas-no-1-qb-recruit-quinn-ewers-give-up-7-figure-nil-offers-for-one-more-season-of-texas-high-school-football-200803437.html

Unintended consequences.  Is this good, is this right...who decides?

They green light NIL with no broad guidelines or guardrails so every state has their own criteria on what can and can't be done.  Maybe one state does not let the player use the university logo in their endorsements, while another state encourages it.  Maybe one state requires the university to authorize or be informed of a pending NIL deal, while other states do not require the player to inform the school.  And you have this situation in Texas vs a different situation in California that the yahoo story brings up.  It's like the wild west...Alabama's presumed 2021 starting QB has about 1 million dollars in NIL deals already and he has never started a game yet!

 

 
Posted : August 6, 2021 11:23 am
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The Ohio State QB depth is ridiculous, question is when do they start transferring out.  They now have 4 scholarship freshman QBs and 3 of the 4 are bluechip highly ranked recruits with Ewers the most decorated of the bunch.

 
Posted : August 6, 2021 11:32 am
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https://sports.yahoo.com/is-this-the-secret-to-unseating-alabama-clemson-and-ohio-state-233658958.html

Maybe.  The extra year of eligibility and the boost that can give to some of the teams not named Alabama, Ohio State and Clemson is possible.  It's unique that those 3 schools are will have new QBs (DJ did start 2 games for Lawrence last year).

As is typical, these schools, and Oklahoma and Georgia, saw a large number of players forgo extra eligibility for the NFL.  Alabama lost 9 All conference players.  Georgia lost 5.  Ohio State lost 7.  OU and Clemson fared better, OU saw 3 of their 9 depart and Clemson lost 5 of their 10.  These teams are used to this kind of roster management however and have shown, they can all reload year after year.

The yahoo article mentions Pitt.  And Pitt has been talked about a lot with Pickett coming back, but Pitt isn't as well positioned to challenge in the ACC as UNC or maybe NC State which was also discussed in the article.  The ACC I think looks like it is going to produce some really good football and competitive games this year.  Maybe the best the bulk of the league has looked that I can remember.  So Clemson tripping up somewhere...maybe.  Clemson hasn't lost more than 1 regular season game since 2014 - so it's hard to envision how they would not win the division.  The Title game could be tricky assuming UNC improves on defense and Howell continues to emerge as a top QB.

Iowa State is really the one that could crash the party.  OU and Texas were not among the schools being "unseated", but OU has been in the playoff 3 of the last 4 years.  ISU brings back 9 of their 10 All Conference players.  That is an amazingly high number of top flight players who return.  And they have beaten OU twice in the last 4 years.

Unseating Alabama, or Georgia?  That looks difficult given Bama's history.  Sure, they lose their OC, their QB, RB and WR all who were first round picks and 3 OL to the NFL.  Normally you would think that matters, but this is Bama, so probably not.  Some think Texas A&M?  Are they ready?  October 9th in College Station will be a big deal.  Georgia?  The SEC East looks so weak, Kentucky might be the second best team.  UGA has normally been a tough matchup for them.  UK is intriguing this year with the OC hire (LA Rams OC) and some higher expectations out of the QB position.  They brought in transfers at OL and WR who started at other power 5 schools and UK's D is usually pretty tough.  My Phil Steele book tells me UK has not scored a TD on UGA since 2018!

I think the PAC 12 is going to be a really fun league to follow this year.  There is a lot of returning talent and experience on most all of those teams.  Hard to see any of them going unbeaten though, but if the wins come vs the right schools and if somebody emerges with just one quality loss perhaps their might be a chance they get into the playoff again.

 

 

 
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Oh, as for unseating Ohio State, I'd like to think so.  It will take two losses to do that and one has to be Oregon.

Their pass D was so incredibly poor last year and I don't think their secondary is as loaded as it has been traditionally.  Plus they lose all LBs with experience (4 of the top 5 tacklers at the LB position and gone).  So the back 7 of Ohio State I think is vulnerable, especially early in the season.

I am warming up to the possibility of Oregon knocking them off in week 2.  I might even throw some lunch money on a Minny ML week 1 just because.  The problem with Oregon and Minny vs OSU is their Ds, especially the run Ds.  Oregon was abnormally bad in run D last  year and has some question on the interior of their DL.  Minny isn't going to win a game vs OSU with their D unless OSU helps them along the way (new QB so maybe some turnovers).  OSU has 2 of the best WRs in the country and their running game is going to be strong, so that is going to be a tough matchup for everyone.

If the OSU D doesn't improve, the problem is there just are not many teams in the Big Ten that can exploit that.  You have to have the kind of weapons and talent that a team like Bama or Clemson typically have and that just isn't found in the Big Ten.  So even an average Ohio State D is still pretty well suited to matchup vs other Big Ten Os.  Ryan Day has never lost a Big Ten game in his 2 years as head coach!

 

 
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The Ohio State QB depth is ridiculous, question is when do they start transferring out.  They now have 4 scholarship freshman QBs and 3 of the 4 are bluechip highly ranked recruits with Ewers the most decorated of the bunch.

That year Ohio St had three great QBs was weird. Cardale Jones was one of them. He was on one of the ESPN talk shows today. 

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One thing I've always loved about college football is the revolving door of greatness, records being set, records being broken. Guys who in 2, 3 or 4 years leave a lasting legacy in the history of their teams and perhaps in the sport.  Amos Zereoue might be an easy guy to forget, but man he was good at WVU. 

 
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RIP Bobby. 

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@lee I had the good fortune to have sat down and dined with Bobby on a couple of occasions.  He was one of the most personable people you could ever hope to meet.  Just a super nice and polite man who would listen to you when it was your turn to speak in the conversation.  I know that he also had his intense, competitive side.  I believe he took a kicker's scholarship away after he choked on what would have been a game-winning field goal  (sometime in the 90s ?).  Like Bryant - one of the true legends from what I'll always think of as the golden era of college football.  He was a class act and a credit to the game of football.  A true legend ... but I already said that.  

 

EDIT:  I could've sworn Bobby was a University of Alabama assistant coach (along with Howard Schellenberger).  He did start out as a player at BAMA - one season before moving to Howard College (now Samford).

 
Posted : August 8, 2021 10:00 am
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Wow, that cool! He always seemed like quite the character.

I became a Seminoles fan in the 80s when they got good and were on TV all the time. I think I still have an FSU coat somewhere. I do seem to recall that FSU had a reputation as kind of a shady institution. But I think he wouldn't let Randy Moss in and he had to go to Marshall of all places. 

Everything in Moderation. Including Moderation.

 
Posted : August 8, 2021 10:51 am
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@lee A lot of folks referred to them as "Florida State Prison University".  Jokes like, "they built the stadium close to the prison so the players wouldn't have far to walk on game day" - stuff like that.  I doubt FSU had any more potential felons than any other major NCAA powerhouse.  He was a great coach - nobody can deny this.

 
Posted : August 8, 2021 10:56 am
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Listen to Bowden compliment Spurrier after Spurrier uses one of his typical jabs at FSU. 

 
Posted : August 8, 2021 11:22 am
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@nebish Bobby was class.  Spurrier was class - minus the c-l. 😉  

Truth - I'm a Steve Spurrier fan, too.  He's a bit too intense for most, but that's what worked for him.

 
Posted : August 8, 2021 1:03 pm
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Biggest mistake Alabama made was hiring Bill Curry over Bowden because Bobby didn’t interview well.

 
Posted : August 8, 2021 2:06 pm
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@masbama As a life-long and generational Alabama fan I never understood hiring Bill Curry for that position.  Other than the fact that Ray Perkins was Bryant's hand-picked successor - I didn't get that either.  Bill Curry was a fine coach - but always a bridesmaid - never the bride.  Shortly after this period, Alabama went through the darkest days in its history.  I think they hired several of the head coaches (they had more head coaches in a 10 year period than they had for their entire existence!) knowing that they were going to be short-timers (my gut feeling and opinion).  I sure would've loved to have seen things pan out for Mike Shula - he was raised with football in his veins!  Mike Dubose?  Mike Price (never actually coached a game) ... where they just looking for somebody named Mike?  I believe they knew probation was coming and didn't waste money on big salaries (still my opinion).  When those dark clouds finally passed over - they went back to souping up the program.  

 
Posted : August 8, 2021 2:20 pm
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