College Football
2021 - and beyond
Power 5 Conference Odds
NCAAF 2021-2022 ACC Conference Winner
Team | Record | Current | Opening |
---|---|---|---|
Miami |
(0-0-0)
|
+700
|
+1,000
|
NC State |
(0-0-0)
|
+1,800
|
+1,600
|
Louisville |
(0-0-0)
|
+2,500
|
+2,200
|
Pittsburgh |
(0-0-0)
|
+5,000
|
+3,300
|
Georgia Tech |
(0-0-0)
|
+6,600
|
+5,000
|
Wake Forest |
(0-0-0)
|
+6,600
|
+5,000
|
Syracuse |
(0-0-0)
|
+10,000
|
+8,000
|
NCAAF 2021-2022 BIG Ten Conference Winner
Team | Record | Current | Opening |
---|---|---|---|
Ohio State |
(0-0-0)
|
-167
|
-110
|
Wisconsin |
(0-0-0)
|
+800
|
+1,200
|
Iowa |
(0-0-0)
|
+1,200
|
+1,100
|
Michigan |
(0-0-0)
|
+1,600
|
+700
|
Nebraska |
(0-0-0)
|
+1,800
|
+2,000
|
Minnesota |
(0-0-0)
|
+1,800
|
+2,000
|
Indiana |
(0-0-0)
|
+1,800
|
+1,600
|
Northwestern |
(0-0-0)
|
+3,300
|
+1,400
|
NCAAF 2021-2022 Big 12 Conference Winner
Team | Record | Current | Opening |
---|---|---|---|
Oklahoma |
(0-0-0)
|
-143
|
-125
|
Iowa State |
(0-0-0)
|
+225
|
+250
|
Texas |
(0-0-0)
|
+600
|
+350
|
Oklahoma State |
(0-0-0)
|
+1,000
|
+700
|
Texas Christian |
(0-0-0)
|
+1,400
|
+2,800
|
Texas Tech |
(0-0-0)
|
+5,000
|
+4,000
|
NCAAF 2021-2022 PAC-12 Conference Winner
Team | Record | Current | Opening |
---|---|---|---|
Oregon |
(0-0-0)
|
+275
|
+225
|
Washington |
(0-0-0)
|
+275
|
+450
|
Southern California |
(0-0-0)
|
+400
|
+350
|
Arizona State |
(0-0-0)
|
+450
|
+500
|
UCLA |
(0-0-0)
|
+1,200
|
+1,000
|
Utah |
(0-0-0)
|
+1,200
|
+1,800
|
Colorado |
(0-0-0)
|
+2,000
|
+3,300
|
Stanford |
(0-0-0)
|
+2,800
|
+1,200
|
NCAAF 2021-2022 SEC Conference Winner
Team | Record | Current | Opening |
---|---|---|---|
Alabama |
(0-0-0)
|
-167
|
+100
|
Georgia |
(0-0-0)
|
+250
|
+250
|
Texas A&M |
(0-0-0)
|
+1,000
|
+700
|
Louisiana State |
(0-0-0)
|
+1,200
|
+1,000
|
Florida |
(0-0-0)
|
+1,400
|
+1,200
|
Auburn |
(0-0-0)
|
+2,200
|
+1,600
|
Mississippi |
(0-0-0)
|
+2,500
|
+2,500
|
Missouri |
(0-0-0)
|
+2,500
|
+1,600
|
Kentucky |
(0-0-0)
|
+4,000
|
+5,000
|
Arkansas |
(0-0-0)
|
+10,000
|
+10,000
|
Mississippi State |
(0-0-0)
|
+10,000
|
+10,000
|
Tennessee |
(0-0-0)
|
+10,000
|
+4,000
|
South Carolina |
(0-0-0)
|
+15,000
|
+15,000
|
Vanderbilt |
(0-0-0)
|
+50,000
|
+50,000
|
Group of 5 Conference Odds
NCAAF 2021-2022 AAC Conference Winner
Team | Record | Current | Opening |
---|---|---|---|
Cincinnati |
(0-0-0)
|
-230
|
-200
|
Central Florida |
(0-0-0)
|
+450
|
+400
|
Tulsa |
(0-0-0)
|
+900
|
+800
|
Memphis |
(0-0-0)
|
+1,000
|
+1,000
|
Houston |
(0-0-0)
|
+1,200
|
+1,200
|
Tulane |
(0-0-0)
|
+1,200
|
+1,200
|
Southern Methodist |
(0-0-0)
|
+2,500
|
+2,500
|
East Carolina |
(0-0-0)
|
+5,000
|
+5,000
|
South Florida |
(0-0-0)
|
+10,000
|
+10,000
|
Navy |
(0-0-0)
|
+10,000
|
+10,000
|
Temple |
(0-0-0)
|
+20,000
|
+20,000
|
NCAAF 2021-2022 C-USA Conference Winner
Team | Record | Current | Opening |
---|---|---|---|
Marshall |
(0-0-0)
|
+250
|
+250
|
UAB |
(0-0-0)
|
+275
|
+275
|
Texas-San Antonio |
(0-0-0)
|
+350
|
+300
|
Western Kentucky |
(0-0-0)
|
+700
|
+1,000
|
Florida Atlantic |
(0-0-0)
|
+900
|
+800
|
Rice |
(0-0-0)
|
+1,600
|
+1,600
|
Southern Miss |
(0-0-0)
|
+1,800
|
+1,800
|
Old Dominion |
(0-0-0)
|
+2,800
|
+2,800
|
Louisiana Tech |
(0-0-0)
|
+2,800
|
+2,800
|
North Texas |
(0-0-0)
|
+2,800
|
+2,800
|
Charlotte |
(0-0-0)
|
+3,300
|
+3,300
|
Florida International |
(0-0-0)
|
+3,300
|
+3,300
|
Middle Tennessee |
(0-0-0)
|
+3,300
|
+3,300
|
Texas El Paso |
(0-0-0)
|
+10,000
|
+10,000
|
NCAAF 2021-2022 MAC Conference Winner
Team | Record | Current | Opening |
---|---|---|---|
Buffalo |
(0-0-0)
|
+300
|
+200
|
Ball State |
(0-0-0)
|
+350
|
+350
|
Toledo |
(0-0-0)
|
+350
|
+450
|
Central Michigan |
(0-0-0)
|
+450
|
+450
|
Ohio |
(0-0-0)
|
+750
|
+750
|
Western Michigan |
(0-0-0)
|
+1,200
|
+1,200
|
Kent State |
(0-0-0)
|
+1,400
|
+1,400
|
Eastern Michigan |
(0-0-0)
|
+2,200
|
+2,200
|
Miami (Ohio) |
(0-0-0)
|
+3,300
|
+3,300
|
Northern Illinois |
(0-0-0)
|
+4,000
|
+4,000
|
Akron |
(0-0-0)
|
+10,000
|
+10,000
|
Bowling Green |
(0-0-0)
|
+15,000
|
+15,000
|
NCAAF 2021-2022 Mountain West Conference Winner
Team | Record | Current | Opening |
---|---|---|---|
Boise State |
(0-0-0)
|
-110
|
+110
|
Nevada |
(0-0-0)
|
+450
|
+400
|
San Jose State |
(0-0-0)
|
+500
|
+400
|
Wyoming |
(0-0-0)
|
+700
|
+700
|
Hawaii |
(0-0-0)
|
+1,000
|
+1,000
|
San Diego State |
(0-0-0)
|
+1,400
|
+1,400
|
Fresno State |
(0-0-0)
|
+2,200
|
+2,200
|
Air Force |
(0-0-0)
|
+2,800
|
+2,800
|
Colorado State |
(0-0-0)
|
+4,000
|
+4,000
|
Utah State |
(0-0-0)
|
+5,000
|
+5,000
|
New Mexico |
(0-0-0)
|
+15,000
|
+20,000
|
UNLV |
(0-0-0)
|
+20,000
|
+20,000
|
NCAAF 2021-2022 Sun Belt Conference Winner
Team | Record | Current | Opening |
---|---|---|---|
UL Lafayette |
(0-0-0)
|
+125
|
+125
|
Coastal Carolina |
(0-0-0)
|
+200
|
+200
|
Appalachian State |
(0-0-0)
|
+400
|
+400
|
Troy |
(0-0-0)
|
+1,600
|
+1,600
|
Georgia St. |
(0-0-0)
|
+1,800
|
+1,800
|
Texas State |
(0-0-0)
|
+2,500
|
+2,500
|
Arkansas St. |
(0-0-0)
|
+2,500
|
+2,500
|
Georgia Southern |
(0-0-0)
|
+3,300
|
+3,300
|
South Alabama |
(0-0-0)
|
+5,000
|
+5,000
|
UL Monroe |
(0-0-0)
|
+10,000
|
+10,000
|
Some of those are incomplete...namely the ACC and Big Ten. Here is complete ACC and B1G conference odds.
Picked up a few Phil Steele books today. Let the preparation begin!
Big Xll media days are upon us!
League Media Day Schedules:
Big Xll 7/14 and 7/15
SEC 7/19 - 7/22
MAC 7/20
ACC 7/21 and 7/22
CUSA 7/21 and 7/22
MWC 7/21 and 7/22
Sun Belt 7/22
Big Ten 7/22 and 7/23
PAC12 7/27
AAC 8/4
Saturday, August 28th | ||
Nebraska at Illinois | 12:00 pm | FOX (cable) / FOX Video |
Hawaii at UCLA | 2:30 pm | ESPN / ESPN Video |
Eastern Illinois at Indiana State | 5:00 pm | TBA |
Alcorn vs. NC Central | 6:00 pm | ESPN / ESPN Video |
UConn at Fresno State | TBA | CBSSN / CBS Video |
UTEP at New Mexico State | 8:30 pm | Bally Spots / $Flo Video |
Southern Utah at San Jose State | 9:00 pm | CBSSN / CBS Video |
Wednesday, September 1st |
||
UAB vs. Jacksonville State (Montgomery, AL) | 6:30 pm | ESPN / ESPN Video |
Thursday, September 2nd |
||
Temple at Rutgers | 5:30 pm | BTN / FOX Video |
Boise State at UCF | 6:00 pm | ESPN / ESPN Video |
Appalachian State vs. East Carolina (Charlotte, NC) | 6:30 pm | ESPNU / ESPN Video |
South Florida at NC State | 6:30 pm | ACC Network / / ESPN Video |
Bowling Green at Tennessee | 7:00 pm | SEC Network / ESPN Video |
Ohio State at Minnesota | 7:00 pm | FOX (cable) / FOX Video |
Eastern Washington at UNLV | 9:00 pm | FSN / Stadium (affiliates) / FSGo Video |
Southern Utah at Arizona State | 9:30 pm | Pac-12 / Pac-12 Video |
Weber State at Utah | TBA | Pac-12 / Pac-12 Video |
Games online only or not scheduled for nationally available networks. | ||
Austin Peay at Chattanooga | 6:30 pm | TBA |
Citadel at Coastal Carolina | 6:00 pm | $espn+ Video |
Houston Baptist at New Mexico | TBA | TBA |
Incarnate Word at Youngstown State | 6:00 pm | TBA |
LIU at Florida International | 6:00 pm | espn3 Video |
MVSU at Murray State | TBA | $espn+ Video |
North American at Lamar | TBA | TBA |
Reinhardt at Kennesaw State | 7:00 pm | TBA |
SHSU at Northern Arizona | TBA | TBA |
Southern Illinois at SEMO | TBA | SECN+ Video / $espn+ Video |
Tennessee Tech at Samford | TBA | TBA |
UC Davis at Tulsa | 6:30 pm | $espn+ Video |
UIW at Youngstown State | 6:00 pm | TBA |
UT Martin at Western Kentucky | 7:00 pm | $espn+ Video |
Wagner at Buffalo | 6:00 pm | espn3 Video |
Western Illinois at Ball State | 6:00 pm | $espn+ Video |
Friday, September 3rd |
||
North Carolina at Virginia Tech | 5:00 pm | ESPN / ESPN Video |
Duke at Charlotte | 6:00 pm | CBSSN / CBS Video |
Old Dominion at Wake Forest | 6:00 pm | ACC Network / / ESPN Video |
Michigan State at Northwestern | 8:00 pm | ESPN / ESPN Video |
Northern Colorado at Colorado | 8:00 pm | Pac-12 / Pac-12 Video |
South Dakota State at Colorado State | 8:00 pm | FS1 / FSGo |
Games online only or not scheduled for nationally available networks. | ||
South Dakota at Kansas | 7:00 pm | $espn+ Video |
St. Francis at Eastern Michigan | 6:00 pm | espn3 Video |
Saturday, September 4th |
||
Army at Georgia State | 11:00 am | ESPNU / ESPN Video |
Colgate at Boston College | 11:00 am | ACC Network / / ESPN Video |
Fordham at Nebraska | 11:00 am | BTN / FOX Video |
Holy Cross at UConn | 11:00 am | CBSSN / CBS Video |
Kansas State vs. Stanford (in Arlington) | 11:00 am | FS1 / FSGo |
Louisiana Monroe at Kentucky | 11:00 am | SEC Network / ESPN Video |
Oklahoma at Tulane | 11:00 am | ABC (cable) / espn3 Video |
Penn State at Wisconsin | 11:00 am | FOX (cable) / FOX Video |
Western Michigan at Michigan | 11:00 am | ESPN / ESPN Video |
Fresno State at Oregon | 1:00 pm | Pac-12 / Pac-12 Video |
Lafayette at Air Force | 1:00 pm | FSN / Stadium (affiliates) / FSGo Video |
Alabama vs. Miami (Atlanta) | 2:30 pm | ABC (cable) / espn3 Video |
Indiana at Iowa | 2:30 pm | BTN / FOX Video |
Marshall at Navy | 2:30 pm | CBSSN / CBS Video |
West Virginia at Maryland | 2:30 pm | ESPN / ESPN Video |
Central Michigan at Missouri | 3:00 pm | SEC Network / ESPN Video |
Louisiana Tech at Mississippi State | 3:00 pm | ESPNU / ESPN Video |
UMass at Pittsburgh | 3:00 pm | ACC Network / / ESPN Video |
Louisiana Lafayette at Texas | 3:30 pm | FOX (cable) / FOX Video |
San Jose State at USC | 4:00 pm | Pac-12 / Pac-12 Video |
Oregon State at Purdue | 6:00 pm | FS1 / FSGo |
Syracuse at Ohio | 6:00 pm | CBSSN / CBS Video |
Texas Tech at Houston | 6:00 pm | ESPN / ESPN Video |
Clemson vs. Georgia (Charlotte, NC) | 6:30 pm | ABC (cable) / espn3 Video |
Florida Atlantic at Florida | 6:30 pm | SEC Network / ESPN Video |
Northern Illinois at Georgia Tech | 6:30 pm | ACC Network / / ESPN Video |
UTSA at Illinois | 6:30 pm | BTN / FOX Video |
Kent State at Texas A&M | 7:00 pm | ESPNU / ESPN Video |
Montana at Washington | 7:00 pm | Pac-12 / Pac-12 Video |
LSU at UCLA | 7:30 pm | FOX (cable) / FOX Video |
Arizona vs. BYU (Las Vegas) | 9:30 pm | ESPN / ESPN Video |
Nevada at California | 9:30 pm | FS1 / FSGo |
New Mexico State at San Diego State | 9:30 pm | CBSSN / CBS Video |
Utah State at Washington State | 10:00 pm | Pac-12 / Pac-12 Video |
Games online only or not scheduled for nationally available networks. | ||
Abilene Christian at SMU | 6:00 pm | $espn+ Video |
Akron at Auburn | 6:00 pm | SECN+ Video / $espn+ Video |
Baylor at Texas State | 6:00 pm | $espn+ Video |
Bethune Cookman at UTEP | 8:00 pm | espn3 Video |
BYU vs. Arizona (in Las Vegas) | TBA | TBA |
Campbell at Liberty | 5:00 pm | espn3 Video |
Central Arkansas at Arkansas State | 6:00 pm | espn3 Video |
Duquesne at TCU | 7:00 pm | $espn+ Video |
Eastern Illinois at South Carolina | 6:00 pm | SECN+ Video / $espn+ Video |
ETSU at Vanderbilt | 7:00 pm | SECN+ Video / $espn+ Video |
Gardner Webb at Georgia Southern | 5:00 pm | espn3 Video |
Miami Ohio at Cincinnati | 2:30 pm | $espn+ Video |
Miles at Alabama State | TBA | Youtube Video |
Missouri State at Oklahoma State | 6:00 pm | $espn+ Video |
Monmouth at MTSU | 6:00 pm | espn3 Video |
Montana State at Wyoming | TBA | TBA |
Nicholls at Memphis | 6:00 pm | $espn+ Video |
Norfolk State at Toledo | 6:00 pm | espn3 Video |
Northern Iowa at Iowa State | 2:30 pm | $espn+ Video |
Northwestern State at North Texas | 6:30 pm | espn3 Video |
Portland State at Hawaii | TBA | TBA |
Rice at Arkansas | 11:00 am | SECN+ Video / $espn+ Video |
Southern at Troy | 6:00 pm | espn3 Video |
Southern Miss at South Alabama | 7:00 pm | $espn+ Video |
William & Mary at Virginia | 6:30 pm | espn3 Video |
Sunday, September 5th |
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Florida A&M vs. Jackson State | 2:00 pm | ESPN2 / ESPN Video |
Grambling vs. Tennessee State | 3:00 pm | TBA |
Cramton Bowl: Fort Valley State vs. Tuskegee | 6:00 pm | ESPNU / ESPN Video |
Notre Dame at Florida State | 6:30 pm | ABC (cable) / espn3 Video |
Monday, September 6th |
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Louisville vs. Ole Miss (Atlanta) | 7:00 pm |
ESPN / ESPN Video |
All times Central
Ah hell! 36 days until live college football games and nobody wants to talk about nothing?
Even the stuff I hate talking about I'll bring here...12 team playoff, NIL, immediate eligible 1-time transfers, Texas and OU rumors to the SEC
25 days to go
Everything in Moderation. Including Moderation.
Posted by: @nebishAh hell! 36 days until live college football games and nobody wants to talk about nothing?
Even the stuff I hate talking about I'll bring here...12 team playoff, NIL, immediate eligible 1-time transfers, Texas and OU rumors to the SEC
Okay, how is that kid from Texas allowed to skip his last year of high school (even though I guess he can graduate) so he can play QB at Ohio State to get in on the NIL thing? And apparently his family doesn't need the money. Yeah right. Plus the odds of him even playing for a year or two don't seem that great to me.
Everything in Moderation. Including Moderation.
Posted by: @leePosted by: @nebishAh hell! 36 days until live college football games and nobody wants to talk about nothing?
Even the stuff I hate talking about I'll bring here...12 team playoff, NIL, immediate eligible 1-time transfers, Texas and OU rumors to the SEC
Okay, how is that kid from Texas allowed to skip his last year of high school (even though I guess he can graduate) so he can play QB at Ohio State to get in on the NIL thing? And apparently his family doesn't need the money. Yeah right. Plus the odds of him even playing for a year or two don't seem that great to me.
Unintended consequences. Is this good, is this right...who decides?
They green light NIL with no broad guidelines or guardrails so every state has their own criteria on what can and can't be done. Maybe one state does not let the player use the university logo in their endorsements, while another state encourages it. Maybe one state requires the university to authorize or be informed of a pending NIL deal, while other states do not require the player to inform the school. And you have this situation in Texas vs a different situation in California that the yahoo story brings up. It's like the wild west...Alabama's presumed 2021 starting QB has about 1 million dollars in NIL deals already and he has never started a game yet!
The Ohio State QB depth is ridiculous, question is when do they start transferring out. They now have 4 scholarship freshman QBs and 3 of the 4 are bluechip highly ranked recruits with Ewers the most decorated of the bunch.
Posted by: @lee
Maybe. The extra year of eligibility and the boost that can give to some of the teams not named Alabama, Ohio State and Clemson is possible. It's unique that those 3 schools are will have new QBs (DJ did start 2 games for Lawrence last year).
As is typical, these schools, and Oklahoma and Georgia, saw a large number of players forgo extra eligibility for the NFL. Alabama lost 9 All conference players. Georgia lost 5. Ohio State lost 7. OU and Clemson fared better, OU saw 3 of their 9 depart and Clemson lost 5 of their 10. These teams are used to this kind of roster management however and have shown, they can all reload year after year.
The yahoo article mentions Pitt. And Pitt has been talked about a lot with Pickett coming back, but Pitt isn't as well positioned to challenge in the ACC as UNC or maybe NC State which was also discussed in the article. The ACC I think looks like it is going to produce some really good football and competitive games this year. Maybe the best the bulk of the league has looked that I can remember. So Clemson tripping up somewhere...maybe. Clemson hasn't lost more than 1 regular season game since 2014 - so it's hard to envision how they would not win the division. The Title game could be tricky assuming UNC improves on defense and Howell continues to emerge as a top QB.
Iowa State is really the one that could crash the party. OU and Texas were not among the schools being "unseated", but OU has been in the playoff 3 of the last 4 years. ISU brings back 9 of their 10 All Conference players. That is an amazingly high number of top flight players who return. And they have beaten OU twice in the last 4 years.
Unseating Alabama, or Georgia? That looks difficult given Bama's history. Sure, they lose their OC, their QB, RB and WR all who were first round picks and 3 OL to the NFL. Normally you would think that matters, but this is Bama, so probably not. Some think Texas A&M? Are they ready? October 9th in College Station will be a big deal. Georgia? The SEC East looks so weak, Kentucky might be the second best team. UGA has normally been a tough matchup for them. UK is intriguing this year with the OC hire (LA Rams OC) and some higher expectations out of the QB position. They brought in transfers at OL and WR who started at other power 5 schools and UK's D is usually pretty tough. My Phil Steele book tells me UK has not scored a TD on UGA since 2018!
I think the PAC 12 is going to be a really fun league to follow this year. There is a lot of returning talent and experience on most all of those teams. Hard to see any of them going unbeaten though, but if the wins come vs the right schools and if somebody emerges with just one quality loss perhaps their might be a chance they get into the playoff again.
Oh, as for unseating Ohio State, I'd like to think so. It will take two losses to do that and one has to be Oregon.
Their pass D was so incredibly poor last year and I don't think their secondary is as loaded as it has been traditionally. Plus they lose all LBs with experience (4 of the top 5 tacklers at the LB position and gone). So the back 7 of Ohio State I think is vulnerable, especially early in the season.
I am warming up to the possibility of Oregon knocking them off in week 2. I might even throw some lunch money on a Minny ML week 1 just because. The problem with Oregon and Minny vs OSU is their Ds, especially the run Ds. Oregon was abnormally bad in run D last year and has some question on the interior of their DL. Minny isn't going to win a game vs OSU with their D unless OSU helps them along the way (new QB so maybe some turnovers). OSU has 2 of the best WRs in the country and their running game is going to be strong, so that is going to be a tough matchup for everyone.
If the OSU D doesn't improve, the problem is there just are not many teams in the Big Ten that can exploit that. You have to have the kind of weapons and talent that a team like Bama or Clemson typically have and that just isn't found in the Big Ten. So even an average Ohio State D is still pretty well suited to matchup vs other Big Ten Os. Ryan Day has never lost a Big Ten game in his 2 years as head coach!
Posted by: @nebishThe Ohio State QB depth is ridiculous, question is when do they start transferring out. They now have 4 scholarship freshman QBs and 3 of the 4 are bluechip highly ranked recruits with Ewers the most decorated of the bunch.
That year Ohio St had three great QBs was weird. Cardale Jones was one of them. He was on one of the ESPN talk shows today.
Everything in Moderation. Including Moderation.
One thing I've always loved about college football is the revolving door of greatness, records being set, records being broken. Guys who in 2, 3 or 4 years leave a lasting legacy in the history of their teams and perhaps in the sport. Amos Zereoue might be an easy guy to forget, but man he was good at WVU.
@lee I had the good fortune to have sat down and dined with Bobby on a couple of occasions. He was one of the most personable people you could ever hope to meet. Just a super nice and polite man who would listen to you when it was your turn to speak in the conversation. I know that he also had his intense, competitive side. I believe he took a kicker's scholarship away after he choked on what would have been a game-winning field goal (sometime in the 90s ?). Like Bryant - one of the true legends from what I'll always think of as the golden era of college football. He was a class act and a credit to the game of football. A true legend ... but I already said that.
EDIT: I could've sworn Bobby was a University of Alabama assistant coach (along with Howard Schellenberger). He did start out as a player at BAMA - one season before moving to Howard College (now Samford).
Wow, that cool! He always seemed like quite the character.
I became a Seminoles fan in the 80s when they got good and were on TV all the time. I think I still have an FSU coat somewhere. I do seem to recall that FSU had a reputation as kind of a shady institution. But I think he wouldn't let Randy Moss in and he had to go to Marshall of all places.
Everything in Moderation. Including Moderation.
@lee A lot of folks referred to them as "Florida State Prison University". Jokes like, "they built the stadium close to the prison so the players wouldn't have far to walk on game day" - stuff like that. I doubt FSU had any more potential felons than any other major NCAA powerhouse. He was a great coach - nobody can deny this.
@masbama As a life-long and generational Alabama fan I never understood hiring Bill Curry for that position. Other than the fact that Ray Perkins was Bryant's hand-picked successor - I didn't get that either. Bill Curry was a fine coach - but always a bridesmaid - never the bride. Shortly after this period, Alabama went through the darkest days in its history. I think they hired several of the head coaches (they had more head coaches in a 10 year period than they had for their entire existence!) knowing that they were going to be short-timers (my gut feeling and opinion). I sure would've loved to have seen things pan out for Mike Shula - he was raised with football in his veins! Mike Dubose? Mike Price (never actually coached a game) ... where they just looking for somebody named Mike? I believe they knew probation was coming and didn't waste money on big salaries (still my opinion). When those dark clouds finally passed over - they went back to souping up the program.
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