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jkeller
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So when a State Senator, regardless of how "new" she is to her office speaks out and for immigrants and refugees and chooses to place their well being before those who wear the uniform in defense of my Flag. Well, I will speak out.

But you won't speak out against trump who is putting his immigration policies before veterans.

Once again, I believe President Trump will bring change to the disgraceful way our Vets are treated.

So far he has put the border wall, a travel ban, the ACA, the Keystone and Dakota pipelines and a host of other things he has written executive orders about and not a word on veterans.

[Edited on 2/1/2017 by jkeller]


 
Posted : January 31, 2017 2:24 pm
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BIGV, but why doesn't the Senator get that same consideration? And are you speaking out against all senators that didn't make veterans their first priority, or just the CA one? Just curious.


 
Posted : January 31, 2017 3:16 pm
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BIGV, but why doesn't the Senator get that same consideration? And are you speaking out against all senators that didn't make veterans their first priority, or just the CA one? Just curious.

Just Democrats. Republicans get a pass.


 
Posted : January 31, 2017 3:20 pm
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BIGV, but why doesn't the Senator get that same consideration? And are you speaking out against all senators that didn't make veterans their first priority, or just the CA one? Just curious.

Just Democrats. Republicans get a pass.

Maybe because I am way more Anti-Leftist than I am Pro-Right wing. My agreeing with the Democrats "point of view" starts and ends with solidly being Pro-Choice...


 
Posted : January 31, 2017 6:35 pm
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Being pro-choice is a huge and complicated position, inextricably wound up with a whole bunch of other things. That is what makes it such a key issue - and throws you to the.left whether you like it or not.

On that issue


 
Posted : January 31, 2017 7:19 pm
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It doesn't exist in a vacuum. That's why pro-choice Republicans always fail. The choice issue is not just one issue, it is the flash point of the entire spectrum of womens' rights issues, which is why the feminist movement snowballed on that issue. My sister's husband was a Republican state senator, got laughed out of office by his peers because he ws pro-choice.

No point in discussing womens' rights in the Whipping Post, there is something fundamentally creepy about a pack of old white men pretending to have any clue about how it feels to be on the sh*t end of the equal rights stick. Well we do have Gina, but she advocates Sharia Law.

I believe that she has been converted to Trump law.


 
Posted : January 31, 2017 7:39 pm
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No, there was some logic involved in Murphy's Law.


 
Posted : February 1, 2017 6:33 am
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BIGV, but why doesn't the Senator get that same consideration? And are you speaking out against all senators that didn't make veterans their first priority, or just the CA one? Just curious.

First one I've seen and typically, she's a California Representative...And for the record I see the Veterans lack of care as an America first issue; let's take care of our own before we continue to throw effort and tax dollars at others around the world in need. Imho, Trump's executive order is an excellent start...


 
Posted : February 1, 2017 11:05 am
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With a $20billion dollar border wall that may or may not work? How is that a good for veterans?


 
Posted : February 1, 2017 12:48 pm
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ok i'm gonna weigh in on this now, lol.

1. it was poorly thought out.
2. it was poorly implemented.
3. keeping out people with legal visas is flat out wrong.
4. the possibility of legal residents leaving the country and not being allowed back it flat out wrong.
5. the president has the right to keep out all others for national security reasons.
6. the president has the right to determine what the vetting procedures should be.

although i think this is related to the presidents Muslim ban statements during the campaign, i believe he found a way to word his executive order so that it is legal. his assertion that Christians have been wronged by not allowing them priority is incorrect. just as many Christians as Muslims have been allowed into the USA. so % wise, a higher % of Christians from these countries have been allowed into our country.

bottom line......points 1-4 need fixed.
morally.....we should look to help refugee's not hurt them.
national security wise.....we should not look to alienate our allies.

i wish OUR president would think a little more about the consequences of his actions and words.


 
Posted : February 1, 2017 3:01 pm
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ok i'm gonna weigh in on this now, lol.

1. it was poorly thought out.
2. it was poorly implemented.
3. keeping out people with legal visas is flat out wrong.
4. the possibility of legal residents leaving the country and not being allowed back it flat out wrong.
5. the president has the right to keep out all others for national security reasons.
6. the president has the right to determine what the vetting procedures should be.

although i think this is related to the presidents Muslim ban statements during the campaign, i believe he found a way to word his executive order so that it is legal. his assertion that Christians have been wronged by not allowing them priority is incorrect. just as many Christians as Muslims have been allowed into the USA. so % wise, a higher % of Christians from these countries have been allowed into our country.

bottom line......points 1-4 need fixed.
morally.....we should look to help refugee's not hurt them.
national security wise.....we should not look to alienate our allies.
i wish OUR president would think a little more about the consequences of his actions and words.

Your pr Sidon ''tis incompetent and probably mentally ill.


 
Posted : February 1, 2017 3:31 pm
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It doesn't exist in a vacuum. That's why pro-choice Republicans always fail. The choice issue is not just one issue, it is the flash point of the entire spectrum of womens' rights issues, which is why the feminist movement snowballed on that issue. My sister's husband was a Republican state senator, got laughed out of office by his peers because he ws pro-choice.

No point in discussing womens' rights in the Whipping Post, there is something fundamentally creepy about a pack of old white men pretending to have any clue about how it feels to be on the sh*t end of the equal rights stick. Well we do have Gina, but she advocates Sharia Law.

Sharia law has been misinterpreted and incorrectly applied even by the most ardent followers of it. This is due to innovations in religion, and using religious practices instead of Abrahamaic law. The guidance given to Abraham before religions got into it. I have more than one Quran and have found things in each one of them proving that certain practices in the way they are being done are being done incorrectly, even by some of those for whom I have had great fondness. Jesus will return, when he does, all religions will be done away with, he will bring the laws and guidance back to those who will listen. He tried once before, but we know how that turned out.

[Edited on 2/2/2017 by gina]


 
Posted : February 1, 2017 3:45 pm
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With a $20billion dollar border wall that may or may not work? How is that a good for veterans?

It will work. It will stop the flow of illegals across it. It is a good idea. We can save billions of dollars in foreign aid that we throw around to make other countries our bitches and use the money to help our people. America First! It will be good for veterans, they can work on it, and future veterans may not have to go to foreign wars we do not want and get killed.


 
Posted : February 1, 2017 3:49 pm
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It doesn't exist in a vacuum. That's why pro-choice Republicans always fail. The choice issue is not just one issue, it is the flash point of the entire spectrum of womens' rights issues, which is why the feminist movement snowballed on that issue. My sister's husband was a Republican state senator, got laughed out of office by his peers because he ws pro-choice.

No point in discussing womens' rights in the Whipping Post, there is something fundamentally creepy about a pack of old white men pretending to have any clue about how it feels to be on the sh*t end of the equal rights stick. Well we do have Gina, but she advocates Sharia Law.

I believe that she has been converted to Trump law.

I know there mayl be things in the future that I may not agree with that he may implement, but so far, I agree with everything he has put in place, that's why I am so happy and excited, except I disagree with the fracking. That is ruining the earth, will cause massive earthquakes and sinkholes. The answer to dependence on foreign oil is better trade deals with them. The Saudis are NOT out to screw us with oil prices. Prince Talal has said that the price for Americans at the pump should be about $2.00 a gallon. Now the individual states add taxes onto it, etc. and that is why we are getting hosed at the pump. It is not the Saudis screwing us.

[Edited on 2/3/2017 by gina]


 
Posted : February 1, 2017 3:50 pm
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Your pr Sidon ''tis incompetent and probably mentally ill.

whether you like it or not, he's your's too

😮


 
Posted : February 1, 2017 3:52 pm
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With a $20billion dollar border wall that may or may not work? How is that a good for veterans?

It will work. It will stop the flow of illegals across it. It is a good idea. We can save billions of dollars in foreign aid that we throw around to make other countries our bitches and use the money to help our people. America First! It will be good for veterans, they can work on it, and future veterans may not have to go to foreign wars we do not want and get killed.

How will that stop the tunnels? They are plentiful along the border.


 
Posted : February 1, 2017 4:56 pm
jkeller
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BIGV, but why doesn't the Senator get that same consideration? And are you speaking out against all senators that didn't make veterans their first priority, or just the CA one? Just curious.

First one I've seen and typically, she's a California Representative...And for the record I see the Veterans lack of care as an America first issue; let's take care of our own before we continue to throw effort and tax dollars at others around the world in need. Imho, Trump's executive order is an excellent start...

And yet, Trump seeks money for the wall before even considering veterans.


 
Posted : February 1, 2017 4:57 pm
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How will that stop the tunnels? They are plentiful along the border.

Key point made here. We are dealing with a Country that has zero respect for our Laws....


 
Posted : February 1, 2017 5:32 pm
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Yes, the whole country of Mexico, not a minority of refugees. Your attitude towards them speaks volumes about yoru character. What kind of person denigrates people who flee horrific crime and poverty? And your thoughts on how Trumps $20billion wall is putting vets first? I can't wait to hear how you manage to explain that nonsensical garbage.

[Edited on 2/2/2017 by BoytonBrother]


 
Posted : February 1, 2017 5:48 pm
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Your attitude towards them speaks volumes about your character.

And who in the Hell are you to judge me?...Pal?

Have we ever met?...Looked each other in the eye?

LOL


 
Posted : February 1, 2017 5:54 pm
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If you have that kind of attitude towards people fleeing that type of enviornment for a better life, then I stand by what I said. Have a nice evening!


 
Posted : February 1, 2017 5:55 pm
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If you have that kind of attitude towards people fleeing that type of enviornment for a better life, then I stand by what I said. Have a nice evening!

Of course you do!....Once again, "Have we ever met"?


 
Posted : February 1, 2017 6:04 pm
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It will stop the flow of illegals across it.

Any illegals enter from Canada? The Mexican border is a little over 1,100 miles long, the Canadian border around 5,200 miles.

No other illegals come in from the north? Wow, that's pretty neat.


 
Posted : February 2, 2017 9:59 am
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It will stop the flow of illegals across it.

Any illegals enter from Canada? The Mexican border is a little over 1,100 miles long, the Canadian border around 5,200 miles.

No other illegals come in from the north? Wow, that's pretty neat.

Besides that, how far into the Pacific will the wall extend? There are a lot of boats in Mexico.


 
Posted : February 2, 2017 12:34 pm
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The Mexican border is a little over 1,100 miles long, the Canadian border around 5,200 miles.

Mexico has 122 million people, Canada has 35 million.

Approx 9% of Canadians live below the poverty line, in Mexico it is over 50%.

Which border do you think has the bigger problem with Illegal entry?


 
Posted : February 2, 2017 2:00 pm
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The Mexican border is a little over 1,100 miles long, the Canadian border around 5,200 miles.

Mexico has 122 million people, Canada has 35 million.

Approx 9% of Canadians live below the poverty line, in Mexico it is over 50%.

Which border do you think has the bigger problem with Illegal entry?

Who said that only Canadians were entering the US from Canada?


 
Posted : February 2, 2017 2:14 pm
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With a $20billion dollar border wall that may or may not work? How is that a good for veterans?

It will work. It will stop the flow of illegals across it. It is a good idea. We can save billions of dollars in foreign aid that we throw around to make other countries our bitches and use the money to help our people. America First! It will be good for veterans, they can work on it, and future veterans may not have to go to foreign wars we do not want and get killed.

How will that stop the tunnels? They are plentiful along the border.

The tunnels are a big problem, with crooked federal agents allowing them to be used for drug smuggling too. Cheech and Chong did a movie called Born in East L.A., it was really funny, smuggling tunnels that led to manholes in city areas, illegals breaching the border. I don't know what they will need to do with the tunnels, but it is a good question.


 
Posted : February 2, 2017 3:40 pm
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Who said that only Canadians were entering the US from Canada?

I repeat, "Which border do you think has the bigger problem with Illegal entry"?


 
Posted : February 2, 2017 3:47 pm
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There's no illegals coming through Canada then. That's a relief.


 
Posted : February 2, 2017 4:19 pm
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Not yet, they are probably still ooggling Niagara Falls, great Hockey, sweet talking women with French accents, and the nice international enclaves or other immigrants in many of the cities. It is a clean, pretty country.


 
Posted : February 4, 2017 12:30 pm
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