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jerryphilbob
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She can't get past Benghazi and I believe Snowden has information that is going to make life hard on her. We will see, but i saw this coming a mile away.

Not that it will change anything, but the Progressives might be sorry that they put all their eggs in one basket when it comes to Hillary. The media white wash of Benghazi isn't going to keep the sharks at bay. At some point, she is going to have answer questions. If she continues to stonewall, it won't make her look good at all.

It doesn't really matter because they are going to get their man in office, congrats to Jeb on being the next POTUS and keeping it in the family.

If we have another election at all. In my gut, I always felt like Obama was going to be the last. We will see.


 
Posted : May 23, 2015 3:59 am
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The GOP blew their wade on Benghazi and it went nowhere. Even the Republican led committee found nothing so you are dreaming if you think this will hurt her chances.

The GOP tried to make this a major campaign issue and failed. It is yesterdays news.

You had a better shot with the e-mail scandal which still has some legs. Although weak legs at that.

[Edited on 5/23/2015 by Bill_Graham]

[Edited on 5/23/2015 by Bill_Graham]


 
Posted : May 23, 2015 5:36 am
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Hillary could not beat a Junior Senator with no experience the last time around.

So what makes Hillary such a great candidate for POTUS?

(of course the elections are fixed, but just curious why the faithful have such regard for her candidacy?)


 
Posted : May 27, 2015 5:28 am
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Why isn't this posted in the long and tiresome pre-existing Hillary thread?


 
Posted : May 27, 2015 6:19 am
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Really? That's all you got?

That's what I figured. The Progressives can't even give a good reason to elect Hillary. Because she is a horrible candidate. She is more polarizing than Jeb. If they would show the real polls about her numbers, the left would quickly realize they need a new candidate. At least someone better than Hillary and Bernie? Tell me they have someone in the wings that are better than that?


 
Posted : May 28, 2015 2:26 am
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MSNBC is worried because Hillary's poll numbers have dropped by 8% over the last month. It doesn't seem like they really care or she is really trying to run as a legit candidate. It reminds me of when McCain and Mitt both ran, they simply were not giving it any effort. Hillary's campaign has the same feel.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

As long as it isn't Rand or Ben, they win. They are setting Rand up for the big fall on homeland security and they aren't even giving the good doctor any air time.

I wonder if the Progressives are ready for Bush?

A vote for Hillary is a vote for Jeb. I don't see America seeing threw the media and voting for a real candidate.


 
Posted : June 2, 2015 3:30 am
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Hillary is playing the political game as it is not in her best interest to give the GOP sound bites to pick apart. Sadly this is what politics has come to.

Not sure what stations you are watching but I see Paul being interviewed on network news. Not sure about Carson but that is what Fox News is for yes. Unless you think they are also purposely holding him down?

We will never get the best person for job JPB as our system is controlled by corporate interests. The best we can hope for is to elect the candidate who will do the least damage in office.


 
Posted : June 2, 2015 6:10 am
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Ben Carson is largely being ignored. They don't want to give him any press at all. Even Vegas doesn't have odds on him winning the Presidency. I am not sure about Rand any more. It seems they are setting him up for a fall. He is front and center with the Patriot Act right now and I have a bad feeling, and Rand even said it, that some wish there to be a terror attack on US soil just so they can blame Rand.

Ben is the only real candidate or choice. A vote for anyone else is just like voting for the field.

Hillary has already given up. She is not even trying to win. She seems to have already conceded.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. They don't care as long as it isn't Rand or Ben. Anyone else is a win for them. The deck is stacked and the American voter is dreaming if they think they have a choice. I have even seen MSNBC lightening up on Republicans. It just seems to be the way the wind is blowing today.

We will see, but for now, I don't see anything out of Hillary that makes me think she is giving this any effort at all.


 
Posted : June 2, 2015 2:35 pm
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Can't say I share your enthusiasm for Ben Carson. Every-time he opens his mouth he says something dumb. He will never sniff the nomination but i do hope he participates in the GOP debates as it will be very entertaining.

You are dead wrong about Hillary. She has no competition for the nomination so she does not need to campaign yet. The election is still a year and a half away so no need for her to expose herself yet. She has a very experienced election team who know what they are doing. Very smart IMHO.

She is far from my ideal candidate but Elizabeth Wareen is not running and she is a little to radical for America at this point. Pity as I believe she has middle class America at heart.

[Edited on 6/2/2015 by Bill_Graham]


 
Posted : June 2, 2015 3:31 pm
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Hillary's poll numbers are sliding. With the election only a year and a half away, no candidate wants to be going in that direction. She is doing nothing to stop her slide. She isn't even trying. As for her being the only candidate on the left, that is prett,y sad. No offense to Hillary supporters, but if that is all you have and you are going to hang all your hopes on her, you are going to be very disappointed on the day after the elections.

Jeb is the one they want in this time around. It's obvious. A vote for Hillary is a vote for Jeb. The Republicrats rule, and there won't be a Revolution this time around either. You have no choice. The election has already been decided.

As for Elizabeth Warren, she is not for the middle class. She is for the destruction of Capitalism. I am pretty sure America isn't ready for that. I wonder how she made her money? Who has she taken money from? As for her fake war on the 1%, she is one of the 1%. She doesn't care about you or the middle class. None of them do. They don't care about you at all. Plus, EW would beat Hillary, and they don't want that. That is why she didn't run.

Price controls and wage controls don't work. See Wiemar Germany.


 
Posted : June 3, 2015 3:15 am
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Not sure what polls you are watching but her poll numbers have not dipped much in the last few months as I have been watching them. In fact she has a healthy lead over Jeb if that is who you think will get the GOP candidacy.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/

She is not trying because she must know what you have been claiming that elections will be suspended so why waste time and money campaigning Yes? Grin

Seriously though she is not trying for a reason JPB. She has no need to campaign yet as she has no opposition in her own party. She still leads in the polls against all the GOP opponents despite the attempts by the GOP to keep the Benghazi and e-mail non scandals in the papers. It is smart strategy this far from the elections. There is no need to expose yourself this early when you have no opposition from your own party or from the GOP.

Let the GOP wannabees waste time and money tearing each other apart. When it gets closer to election time she will come out swinging.

Don't believe it lets make a bet. If you win I can deliver your hyper inflated winnings in a small dump truck. Worst case is you can burn the worthless paper currency in your fire place for heat. 😛

If you really believe that about Elizabeth Warren then you don't know much about her. She is a self made person who came from a poor family. She has always fought for the disadvantaged and your claim she wants to destroy capitalism is nonsense.

When she ran for the Senate she was opposed by the same big business, who backed Scott Brown, you complain are rigging the elections yet she raised a record amount of money for a Senate candidate in 2012.

Go read her record and you will see she has been crusading for oversight of Wall Street and passing legislation to help the middle class and poor.

I don't understand your opposition to her since you claim the elections are rigged yet when you have a candidate who actually wants to help the Middle class you claim she wants to destroy Capitalism. You can't have it both ways my friend.


 
Posted : June 3, 2015 5:41 am
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Hillary's numbers are tanking. She is in almost freefall at this point. The bad news is that Progressives are jumping ship. We already know the Republicans are not going to vote for her.

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/hillary-clinton-more-americans-distrust-than-120530067591.html

All of the politicians are bought and paid for by big business, even Warren. She talks a good game but knows that nothing is ever going to be done. We hear the same crap every year from politicians and the citizens keep drinking it up. All she wants to do is steal from those that have made it and give it to the lazy. I am not for that at all. If she has some real ideas to help the middle class, I would love to hear them. Not just railing on the 1%, but real ideas that will help the middle class grow?

I will bet you, if there is another election, that it won't be Rand or Ben. Any other vote is a vote for the Republicrats. You see, they don't care who wins when the own BOTH sides of the debate. Like I said, no revolution this time around. The American people are easily led by the media and people actually believe what they say. Pretty sad, really.


 
Posted : June 4, 2015 2:39 am
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Hillary's numbers are tanking. She is in almost freefall at this point. The bad news is that Progressives are jumping ship. We already know the Republicans are not going to vote for her.

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/hillary-clinton-more-americans-distrust-than-120530067591.html

All of the politicians are bought and paid for by big business, even Warren. She talks a good game but knows that nothing is ever going to be done. We hear the same crap every year from politicians and the citizens keep drinking it up. All she wants to do is steal from those that have made it and give it to the lazy. I am not for that at all. If she has some real ideas to help the middle class, I would love to hear them. Not just railing on the 1%, but real ideas that will help the middle class grow?

I will bet you, if there is another election, that it won't be Rand or Ben. Any other vote is a vote for the Republicrats. You see, they don't care who wins when the own BOTH sides of the debate. Like I said, no revolution this time around. The American people are easily led by the media and people actually believe what they say. Pretty sad, really.

Go read the polls at website I posted JPB. They contradict your claim that she is dropping in the polls. I have been watching the polls even before she declared and they have been pretty much status quo for the last 6 months. The e-mail non scandal moved the numbers a little but the elections are a year and a half away and the American public has a short attention span so it will be long forgotten by election time.

She will have one of the largest campaign funds in election history when all is said and done so she will be just fine.

Like I said you know nothing of Warren if you really believe she is just some bitch for big business. She is one of the few in Washington who consistently challenges big business interests and proposes legislation that benefits the middle and poor classes. But at this point you have made your mind but about her so nothing I can say will change your opinion.

As far as the GOP is concerned Carson has no chance because he has zero experience and every time he is interviewed he says stupid sh*t so even if the GOP was considering him he is a disaster waiting to happen every time he opens his mouth.

Paul is actually one of the more reasonable GOP candidates IMHO but will never get the nomination because he does not toe the party line and pisses off the GOP leaders by going against the grain.

I do agree with you that both Hillary and Jeb are owned by big business so it just depends on who will do the least damage if elected IMHO.

You and I do agree on one thing our political system is broken and controlled by big business interests. I don't see this changing anytime soon so sadly we may never get a POTUS who really has the peoples best interests in mind.


 
Posted : June 4, 2015 5:00 am
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Carson has no chance because he has zero experience

You mean like Obama? It didn't stop him from beating Hillary.

The Republicrats have a firm grasp on the Media, big business, and the white house. I agree, we will never see another POTUS that is elected by the people for the people. JFK was the last one and it got him killed.

I have been watching Morning Joe on MSNBC and they have been talking about her trustworthiness polls have dropped by 20 points in the last two months. I just don't see any fight in her just like McCain and Romney laid down.

If Rand and Ben were not running, you would only see two Republicans running for POTUS. They need the circus to cloud the picture to make sure at least one of theirs gets in. Brilliant really. That is why nobody is running against Hillary, they have that one locked up.

[Edited on 6/5/2015 by jerryphilbob]


 
Posted : June 4, 2015 5:12 pm
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Obama was an Illinois State Senator and a US Senator. Carson is a doctor with no political experience. Bit of a difference Yes?


 
Posted : June 4, 2015 6:45 pm
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Obama did vote present a lot, I guess that counts as experience. I am pretty sure he ran his Illinois elections pretty much with no one against him. As far as real experience, Obama had none. Shocking that Hillary could not exploit that and give him any kind of opposition at all?

Anybody but Rand and Ben. Like I said, they don't care as long as one their mules wins.

Hillary might prove me wrong, but I don't think so. If there are elections, Jeb is your next POTUS.

Once they have knocked Rand and Ben out, they really don't care who wins. Hillary or Jeb, pick your poison.


 
Posted : June 4, 2015 8:03 pm
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Early-state Democrats are evenly divided over whether Hillary Clinton’s campaign should be worried about recent polls showing her highest unfavorability ratings in years.

Exactly 50 percent say there’s cause for concern while the other 50 percent saw no reason for alarm.
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That’s the assessment of this week’s survey of the POLITICO Caucus — a bipartisan group of influential activists, operatives and elected officials in Iowa and New Hampshire.

“Twenty-plus Republicans beating her up, Elizabeth Warren talking about the working man issues that terrify her, a couple of candidates like Bernie [Sanders] and Martin [O’Malley] to fill in her policy blanks and a media that feels stiffed by her lack of access, so all we can focus on is emails and the notorious Clinton Foundation and newly acquired wealth that suggests, at a minimum, the appearance of impropriety,” one Granite State Democrat said, offering an explanation for her sinking favorability. “Frankly if Hillary could step back at look at herself she would rate herself unfavorably as well.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/hillary-clinton-2016-polling-concern-democrats-insiders-caucus-118667.html#ixzz3cBlzVP4u


 
Posted : June 5, 2015 4:10 am
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Early-state Democrats are evenly divided over whether Hillary Clinton’s campaign should be worried about recent polls showing her highest unfavorability ratings in years.

Exactly 50 percent say there’s cause for concern while the other 50 percent saw no reason for alarm.
Story Continued Below

That’s the assessment of this week’s survey of the POLITICO Caucus — a bipartisan group of influential activists, operatives and elected officials in Iowa and New Hampshire.

“Twenty-plus Republicans beating her up, Elizabeth Warren talking about the working man issues that terrify her, a couple of candidates like Bernie [Sanders] and Martin [O’Malley] to fill in her policy blanks and a media that feels stiffed by her lack of access, so all we can focus on is emails and the notorious Clinton Foundation and newly acquired wealth that suggests, at a minimum, the appearance of impropriety,” one Granite State Democrat said, offering an explanation for her sinking favorability. “Frankly if Hillary could step back at look at herself she would rate herself unfavorably as well.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/hillary-clinton-2016-polling-concern-democrats-insiders-caucus-118667.html#ixzz3cBlzVP4u/blockquote >

And yet she is still leading in all the polls. go figure


 
Posted : June 5, 2015 5:03 am
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