Nice spin, O'Goobs, played like just like Trump and Pence would: if it's indefensible, change the context. It's not just the word, the Left has called Trump a "pussy" plenty. And it's not just the Left that doesn't like grope talk from their Presidential candidate. Even Melania Trump found his remarks "unacceptable and offensive to me." Mike Pence condemned the remarks. Paul Ryan has canceled a Trump/Pence event because of the remarks. Anyone who is human and respects women finds this kind of talk indefensible.
Except you, apparently, O'Goobs. I can respect a difference of opinion, but not blindly defending a man who brags to "grab them by the pussy" and that he would sometimes "just start kissing them." If you think that is OK to do or brag about, then your opinion doesn't much matter.
Sheer DRAMA....Well done!
Somehow Trump keeps getting passes. His supporters don't care . . .
68 always nails it. Way I see this, Trump's supporters not only don't care, they love the crap he is pulling. He is the god of anyone who ever wanted to be offensive but was constrained by decent society.
The King of the Pigs.
Yes, I'm a language geek. There was a book several years ago called Beg about how the English language is greatly insulting to animals and shows a lack of imagination. I think it's time to recognize that calling Trump a pig insults pigs.
Hahaha - only insulting to pigs if you dislike Trump.
Or wait a sec, if you like Trump and compare him favorably to a pig, I guess that demeans pigs as well.
You gotta admit, he looks like one.
Or wait a sec, if you like Trump and compare him favorably to a pig, I guess that demeans pigs as well.
You gotta admit, he looks like one.
He looks like he's going to have a spike in BP and cardiac arrest any second.
Nice spin, O'Goobs, played like just like Trump and Pence would: if it's indefensible, change the context. It's not just the word, the Left has called Trump a "pussy" plenty. And it's not just the Left that doesn't like grope talk from their Presidential candidate. Even Melania Trump found his remarks "unacceptable and offensive to me." Mike Pence condemned the remarks. Paul Ryan has canceled a Trump/Pence event because of the remarks. Anyone who is human and respects women finds this kind of talk indefensible.
Except you, apparently, O'Goobs. I can respect a difference of opinion, but not blindly defending a man who brags to "grab them by the pussy" and that he would sometimes "just start kissing them." If you think that is OK to do or brag about, then your opinion doesn't much matter.
I don't recall him saying that he ACTUALLY grabbed anyone by the pu**y. He said "you could do that", meaning it was an option if a 'star' or 'celebrity' was attracted to someone. Even when he was interrogated by Anderson Cooper during the debate, Anderson asked him several times, if he had ever 'grabbed' a woman like that or sexually assaulted her and he said "no". Men like to brag about their desirability and/or conquests. It's called ego. Would behavior like that be acceptable, actually grabbing women like that? No. We all know that.
Someone else mentioned rape culture, and that is a very valid point. We encourage it as a society. Osama pointed it out in his Letter to America, using the sexuality of women in advertising to sell products, making them sex objects, desensitizing the world to any dignity she might have because it is on display for all to see.
Osama's remarks regarding the degradation of women in America.
"(2) The second thing we call you to, is to stop your oppression, lies, immorality and debauchery that has spread among you.
(a) We call you to be a people of manners, principles, honour, and purity; to reject the immoral acts of fornication, homosexuality, intoxicants, gambling's, and trading with interest.
You are a nation that permits acts of immorality, and you consider them to be pillars of personal freedom. You have continued to sink down this abyss from level to level until incest has spread amongst you, in the face of which neither your sense of honour nor your laws object.
(vi) You are a nation that exploits women like consumer products or advertising tools calling upon customers to purchase them. You use women to serve passengers, visitors, and strangers to increase your profit margins. You then rant that you support the liberation of women.
(vii) You are a nation that practices the trade of sex in all its forms, directly and indirectly. Giant corporations and establishments are established on this, under the name of art, entertainment, tourism and freedom, and other deceptive names you attribute to it.
(viii) And because of all this, you have been described in history as a nation that spreads diseases that were unknown to man in the past. Go ahead and boast to the nations of man, that you brought them AIDS as a Satanic American Invention."
Rape culture? Maybe people ought should take a look at that.
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Donald J. Trump: You know and ...
Unknown: She used to be great. She’s still very beautiful.
Trump: I moved on her, actually. You know, she was down on Palm Beach. I moved on her, and I failed. I’ll admit it.
Unknown: Whoa.
Trump: I did try and fuck her. She was married.
Unknown: That’s huge news.
Trump: No, no, Nancy. No, this was [unintelligible] — and I moved on her very heavily. In fact, I took her out furniture shopping.
She wanted to get some furniture. I said, “I’ll show you where they have some nice furniture.” I took her out furniture —
I moved on her like a bitch. But I couldn’t get there. And she was married. Then all of a sudden I see her, she’s now got the big phony tits and everything. She’s totally changed her look.
Billy Bush: Sheesh, your girl’s hot as shit. In the purple.
Trump: Whoa! Whoa!
Bush: Yes! The Donald has scored. Whoa, my man!
[Crosstalk]
Trump: Look at you, you are a pussy.
[Crosstalk]
Trump: All right, you and I will walk out.
[Silence]
Trump: Maybe it’s a different one.
Bush: It better not be the publicist. No, it’s, it’s her, it’s —
Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.
Bush: Whatever you want.
Trump: Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.
Bush: Uh, yeah, those legs, all I can see is the legs.
Trump: Oh, it looks good.
Bush: Come on shorty.
Trump: Ooh, nice legs, huh?
Bush: Oof, get out of the way, honey. Oh, that’s good legs. Go ahead.
Trump: It’s always good if you don’t fall out of the bus. Like Ford, Gerald Ford, remember?
Bush: Down below, pull the handle.
Trump: Hello, how are you? Hi!
Arianne Zucker: Hi, Mr. Trump. How are you? Pleasure to meet you.
Trump: Nice seeing you. Terrific, terrific. You know Billy Bush?
Bush: Hello, nice to see you. How you doing, Arianne?
Zucker: Doing very well, thank you. Are you ready to be a soap star?
Trump: We’re ready, let’s go. Make me a soap star.
Bush: How about a little hug for the Donald? He just got off the bus.
Zucker: Would you like a little hug, darling?
Trump: O.K., absolutely. Melania said this was O.K.
Bush: How about a little hug for the Bushy? I just got off the bus.
Zucker: Bushy, Bushy.
Bush: Here we go. Excellent. Well, you’ve got a nice co-star here.
Zucker: Yes, absolutely.
Trump: Good. After you.
[Break in video]
Trump: Come on, Billy, don’t be shy.
Bush: Soon as a beautiful woman shows up, he just, he takes off. This always happens.
Trump: Get over here, Billy.
Zucker: I’m sorry, come here.
Bush: Let the little guy in here, come on.
Zucker: Yeah, let the little guy in. How you feel now? Better? I should actually be in the middle.
Bush: It’s hard to walk next to a guy like this.
Zucker: Here, wait, hold on.
Bush: Yeah, you get in the middle, there we go.
Trump: Good, that’s better.
Zucker: This is much better. This is —
Trump: That’s better.
Zucker: [Sighs]
Bush: Now, if you had to choose honestly between one of us. Me or the Donald?
Trump: I don’t know, that’s tough competition.
Zucker: That’s some pressure right there.
Bush: Seriously, if you had — if you had to take one of us as a date.
Zucker: I have to take the Fifth on that one.
Bush: Really?
Zucker: Yup — I’ll take both.
Trump: Which way?
Zucker: Make a right. Here we go. [inaudible]
Bush: Here he goes. I’m gonna leave you here.
Trump: O.K.
Bush: Give me my microphone.
Trump: O.K. Oh, you’re finished?
Bush: You’re my man, yeah.
Trump: Oh, good.
Bush: I’m gonna go do our show.
Zucker: Oh, you wanna reset? O.K.
Nice spin, O'Goobs, played like just like Trump and Pence would: if it's indefensible, change the context. It's not just the word, the Left has called Trump a "pussy" plenty. And it's not just the Left that doesn't like grope talk from their Presidential candidate. Even Melania Trump found his remarks "unacceptable and offensive to me." Mike Pence condemned the remarks. Paul Ryan has canceled a Trump/Pence event because of the remarks. Anyone who is human and respects women finds this kind of talk indefensible.
Except you, apparently, O'Goobs. I can respect a difference of opinion, but not blindly defending a man who brags to "grab them by the pussy" and that he would sometimes "just start kissing them." If you think that is OK to do or brag about, then your opinion doesn't much matter.
I don't recall him saying that he ACTUALLY grabbed anyone by the pu**y. He said "you could do that", meaning it was an option if a 'star' or 'celebrity' was attracted to someone. Even when he was interrogated by Anderson Cooper during the debate, Anderson asked him several times, if he had ever 'grabbed' a woman like that or sexually assaulted her and he said "no". Men like to brag about their desirability and/or conquests. It's called ego. Would behavior like that be acceptable, actually grabbing women like that? No. We all know that.
Someone else mentioned rape culture, and that is a very valid point. We encourage it as a society. Osama pointed it out in his Letter to America, using the sexuality of women in advertising to sell products, making them sex objects, desensitizing the world to any dignity she might have because it is on display for all to see.
Osama's remarks regarding the degradation of women in America.
"(2) The second thing we call you to, is to stop your oppression, lies, immorality and debauchery that has spread among you.
(a) We call you to be a people of manners, principles, honour, and purity; to reject the immoral acts of fornication, homosexuality, intoxicants, gambling's, and trading with interest.
You are a nation that permits acts of immorality, and you consider them to be pillars of personal freedom. You have continued to sink down this abyss from level to level until incest has spread amongst you, in the face of which neither your sense of honour nor your laws object.
(vi) You are a nation that exploits women like consumer products or advertising tools calling upon customers to purchase them. You use women to serve passengers, visitors, and strangers to increase your profit margins. You then rant that you support the liberation of women.
(vii) You are a nation that practices the trade of sex in all its forms, directly and indirectly. Giant corporations and establishments are established on this, under the name of art, entertainment, tourism and freedom, and other deceptive names you attribute to it.
(viii) And because of all this, you have been described in history as a nation that spreads diseases that were unknown to man in the past. Go ahead and boast to the nations of man, that you brought them AIDS as a Satanic American Invention."
Rape culture? Maybe people ought should take a look at that.
[Edited on 10/10/2016 by gina]
You are a despicable moron. Osama bin Laden has nothing to do with anything. But you bring him up whenever you can. You are a complete loser.
He pointed out the behavior we promote in regards to women. You cannot refute any of those points, which is why you refuse to even look at it and admit we promote a rape culture.
Most of us don't promote rape culture, only a few dispicable people like Donald Trump, Bill Cosby and over privileged Stanford swimmers. No respect for any of them.
He pointed out the behavior we promote in regards to women. You cannot refute any of those points, which is why you refuse to even look at it and admit we promote a rape culture.
Trump promotes the rape culture. He practices it. However he only practiced it on females between the ages of 12 and 30.
Hold on a sec. Let me get this straight . . . You are saying that because Osama Bin Laden says America is sexually corrupt, then therefore it is ok for Donald Trump to make rude sexual comments?
For the first time I finally realize why Gina supports Trump, she is still angry at Hillary for her part in killing Osama Bin Laden. I can believe it took me this long to figure that out, but it makes sense now.
Hold on a sec. Let me get this straight . . . You are saying that because Osama Bin Laden says America is sexually corrupt, then therefore it is ok for Donald Trump to make rude sexual comments?
No, just because a nation is corrupt is not an alibi or excuse for the behavior of any particular citizen. I tried to point out why we are corrupt, not make excuses for anyone.
For the first time I finally realize why Gina supports Trump, she is still angry at Hillary for her part in killing Osama Bin Laden. I can believe it took me this long to figure that out, but it makes sense now.
Wrong. I do not think he is dead. I think he quietly retired or he's just being quiet waiting for something very coveted. The march to Jerusalem with Jesus and the slaying of the anti-Christ when he rises. Jesus will be back, the battle will happen, and who will be on Jesus's side, when most the world denies him and is fooled by the anti-Christ who will be in power and ruling from Jerusalem? There is prophecy of what will happen during those times, and if Osama is alive, there is nothing he would want more than that. The prophecy is in your Bible, and Muslims know it also. Jesus will be leaving from Syria with a group of men who know who he is, and will fight with him. Who do you think those people will be? They will be Muslims. They are the only ones who will not give up fighting to preserve God's laws [even if some of their interpretations are not 100 per cent correct]. So, logically they are the ones who will be with him.
Is it a lie that this battle will take place? It is in your Bible, were all the apostles conspiring to lie about this happening and coming to pass? Look at your political events and watch the signs.
Is it a lie that some of the positions Hillary is for are against the laws God gave to the Christians, as per the books in the Bible? And that Trump's positions (except for the sleaze scandal distraction) are in accordance with God's laws and preserving our Constitution? Many do not understand this yet, but this election is a pivotal moment in history, the path this country goes down has never been more important.
[Edited on 10/10/2016 by gina]
He pointed out the behavior we promote in regards to women. You cannot refute any of those points, which is why you refuse to even look at it and admit we promote a rape culture.
gina, sometimes i respect your opinion. i sort of do this time too but i think you ignore the same culture in islam or the muslim world. egypt for example is a difficult place for female tourists or females in general.
He pointed out the behavior we promote in regards to women. You cannot refute any of those points, which is why you refuse to even look at it and admit we promote a rape culture.
Trump promotes the rape culture. He practices it. However he only practiced it on females between the ages of 12 and 30.
If there was sex with a twelve year old that is rape by moral law, and legal statute. A 30 year old if it was consensual than it was a moral crime. If it was forcible, then it is rape, then it is a legal crime, since in America we do not have the morality police as they do in the middle east.
For the first time I finally realize why Gina supports Trump, she is still angry at Hillary for her part in killing Osama Bin Laden. I can believe it took me this long to figure that out, but it makes sense now.
Wrong. I do not think he is dead. I think he quietly retired or he's just being quiet waiting for something very coveted. The march to Jerusalem with Jesus and the slaying of the anti-Christ when he rises. Jesus will be back, the battle will happen, and who will be on Jesus's side, when most the world denies him and is fooled by the anti-Christ who will be in power and ruling from Jerusalem? There is prophecy of what will happen during those times, and if Osama is alive, there is nothing he would want more than that. The prophecy is in your Bible, and Muslims know it also. Jesus will be leaving from Syria with a group of men who know who he is, and will fight with him. Who do you think those people will be? They will be Muslims. They are the only ones who will not give up fighting to preserve God's laws [even if some of their interpretations are not 100 per cent correct]. So, logically they are the ones who will be with him.
Is it a lie that this battle will take place? It is in your Bible, were all the apostles conspiring to lie about this happening and coming to pass? Look at your political events and watch the signs.
Is it a lie that some of the positions Hillary is for are against the laws God gave to the Christians, as per the books in the Bible? And that Trump's positions (except for the sleaze scandal distraction) are in accordance with God's laws and preserving our Constitution? Many do not understand this yet, but this election is a pivotal moment in history, the path this country goes down has never been more important.
[Edited on 10/10/2016 by gina]
And our little Nostradumbass goes totally batsh!t crazy on this one.
After all these years of reading the crap she spews, I can't say I'm surprised.
Just like the last 4,387 times.
Time for the FBI to wiretap her shoes again.
He pointed out the behavior we promote in regards to women. You cannot refute any of those points, which is why you refuse to even look at it and admit we promote a rape culture.
gina, sometimes i respect your opinion. i sort of do this time too but i think you ignore the same culture in islam or the muslim world. egypt for example is a difficult place for female tourists or females in general.
This is true, there are some areas of Egypt that are reportedly more liberal for secular women, but it is still a Muslim country. It is like the difference between Saudi Arabia and Dubai (one of the Emirates). There are places where women do not have the rights they should have even as Muslims, if they are raped, and it is reported, they are blamed, punished and can be executed. And yes I have seen the videos from Waziristan of the flogging and executions of women. This is the culture of the area. No govt. can go in and say, we are going to change everything you do about how you live here. My position has been as a nation we can offer support to help struggling nations/ peoples become more wealthy, but we cannot overrun them. We can try to show them the truth where we think they are wrong, but we have not done that. We offer secular law, and they do not want that.
i will say that i thought the days of bill clinton being attacked over monica lewinsky was....hmmm....not right, 20 years ago, when i was in my 30's. some attacking him said it was about perjury....not power over women. i thought it all was a distraction to getting things done in this country. after it was over i thought that the conservatives had made their stand on this issue. i've watched as some of their own have been caught crossing the line. i've watched them complain over dems crossing it too over the last 20 years. do any of us other than women know where the line is? do women know where the line is? i don't know.
For the first time I finally realize why Gina supports Trump, she is still angry at Hillary for her part in killing Osama Bin Laden. I can believe it took me this long to figure that out, but it makes sense now.
Wrong. I do not think he is dead. I think he quietly retired or he's just being quiet waiting for something very coveted. The march to Jerusalem with Jesus and the slaying of the anti-Christ when he rises. Jesus will be back, the battle will happen, and who will be on Jesus's side, when most the world denies him and is fooled by the anti-Christ who will be in power and ruling from Jerusalem? There is prophecy of what will happen during those times, and if Osama is alive, there is nothing he would want more than that. The prophecy is in your Bible, and Muslims know it also. Jesus will be leaving from Syria with a group of men who know who he is, and will fight with him. Who do you think those people will be? They will be Muslims. They are the only ones who will not give up fighting to preserve God's laws [even if some of their interpretations are not 100 per cent correct]. So, logically they are the ones who will be with him.
Is it a lie that this battle will take place? It is in your Bible, were all the apostles conspiring to lie about this happening and coming to pass? Look at your political events and watch the signs.
Is it a lie that some of the positions Hillary is for are against the laws God gave to the Christians, as per the books in the Bible? And that Trump's positions (except for the sleaze scandal distraction) are in accordance with God's laws and preserving our Constitution? Many do not understand this yet, but this election is a pivotal moment in history, the path this country goes down has never been more important.
[Edited on 10/10/2016 by gina]
And our little Nostradumbass goes totally batsh!t crazy on this one.
After all these years of reading the crap she spews, I can't say I'm surprised.
Just like the last 4,387 times.
Time for the FBI to wiretap her shoes again.
General Wesley Clark said we will go to Iran, eventually when we are done with those other seven nations. I won't rub it in when it happens. Anyone should be able to figure out if we keep going to all those countries and deposing their govts. eventually the people in those countries are going to rise up.
[Edited on 10/10/2016 by gina]
Nostradumbass
Hahahaha! LOL. Perfect.
For the first time I finally realize why Gina supports Trump, she is still angry at Hillary for her part in killing Osama Bin Laden. I can believe it took me this long to figure that out, but it makes sense now.
Wrong. I do not think he is dead. I think he quietly retired or he's just being quiet waiting for something very coveted. The march to Jerusalem with Jesus and the slaying of the anti-Christ when he rises. Jesus will be back, the battle will happen, and who will be on Jesus's side, when most the world denies him and is fooled by the anti-Christ who will be in power and ruling from Jerusalem? There is prophecy of what will happen during those times, and if Osama is alive, there is nothing he would want more than that. The prophecy is in your Bible, and Muslims know it also. Jesus will be leaving from Syria with a group of men who know who he is, and will fight with him. Who do you think those people will be? They will be Muslims. They are the only ones who will not give up fighting to preserve God's laws [even if some of their interpretations are not 100 per cent correct]. So, logically they are the ones who will be with him.
Is it a lie that this battle will take place? It is in your Bible, were all the apostles conspiring to lie about this happening and coming to pass? Look at your political events and watch the signs.
Is it a lie that some of the positions Hillary is for are against the laws God gave to the Christians, as per the books in the Bible? And that Trump's positions (except for the sleaze scandal distraction) are in accordance with God's laws and preserving our Constitution? Many do not understand this yet, but this election is a pivotal moment in history, the path this country goes down has never been more important.
[Edited on 10/10/2016 by gina]
And our little Nostradumbass goes totally batsh!t crazy on this one.
After all these years of reading the crap she spews, I can't say I'm surprised.
Just like the last 4,387 times.
Time for the FBI to wiretap her shoes again.
General Wesley Clark said we will go to Iran, eventually when we are done with those other seven nations. I won't rub it in when it happens. Anyone should be able to figure out if we keep going to all those countries and deposing their govts. eventually the people in those countries are going to rise up.
[Edited on 10/10/2016 by gina]
Wesley Clark is retired and has no say in the matter.
I have been thinking about how Goob changed the title of this thread. The way it is worded now explains why he finds nothing wrong with Trump and what he said.
For the first time I finally realize why Gina supports Trump, she is still angry at Hillary for her part in killing Osama Bin Laden. I can believe it took me this long to figure that out, but it makes sense now.
Wrong. I do not think he is dead. I think he quietly retired or he's just being quiet waiting for something very coveted. The march to Jerusalem with Jesus and the slaying of the anti-Christ when he rises. Jesus will be back, the battle will happen, and who will be on Jesus's side, when most the world denies him and is fooled by the anti-Christ who will be in power and ruling from Jerusalem? There is prophecy of what will happen during those times, and if Osama is alive, there is nothing he would want more than that. The prophecy is in your Bible, and Muslims know it also. Jesus will be leaving from Syria with a group of men who know who he is, and will fight with him. Who do you think those people will be? They will be Muslims. They are the only ones who will not give up fighting to preserve God's laws [even if some of their interpretations are not 100 per cent correct]. So, logically they are the ones who will be with him.
Is it a lie that this battle will take place? It is in your Bible, were all the apostles conspiring to lie about this happening and coming to pass? Look at your political events and watch the signs.
Is it a lie that some of the positions Hillary is for are against the laws God gave to the Christians, as per the books in the Bible? And that Trump's positions (except for the sleaze scandal distraction) are in accordance with God's laws and preserving our Constitution? Many do not understand this yet, but this election is a pivotal moment in history, the path this country goes down has never been more important.
[Edited on 10/10/2016 by gina]
And our little Nostradumbass goes totally batsh!t crazy on this one.
After all these years of reading the crap she spews, I can't say I'm surprised.
Just like the last 4,387 times.
Time for the FBI to wiretap her shoes again.
General Wesley Clark said we will go to Iran, eventually when we are done with those other seven nations. I won't rub it in when it happens. Anyone should be able to figure out if we keep going to all those countries and deposing their govts. eventually the people in those countries are going to rise up.
[Edited on 10/10/2016 by gina]
Wesley Clark is retired and has no say in the matter.
Ron doesn't think we will ever invade Iran, my point was that it is already in the works as part of the plan General Clark spoke about (since we have already been to most the other countries, the things he said appear to be true and prophetic). Iran will be last because that is when Russia will get involved fighting with Iran against the US.
For the first time I finally realize why Gina supports Trump, she is still angry at Hillary for her part in killing Osama Bin Laden. I can believe it took me this long to figure that out, but it makes sense now.
Wrong. I do not think he is dead. I think he quietly retired or he's just being quiet waiting for something very coveted. The march to Jerusalem with Jesus and the slaying of the anti-Christ when he rises. Jesus will be back, the battle will happen, and who will be on Jesus's side, when most the world denies him and is fooled by the anti-Christ who will be in power and ruling from Jerusalem? There is prophecy of what will happen during those times, and if Osama is alive, there is nothing he would want more than that. The prophecy is in your Bible, and Muslims know it also. Jesus will be leaving from Syria with a group of men who know who he is, and will fight with him. Who do you think those people will be? They will be Muslims. They are the only ones who will not give up fighting to preserve God's laws [even if some of their interpretations are not 100 per cent correct]. So, logically they are the ones who will be with him.
Is it a lie that this battle will take place? It is in your Bible, were all the apostles conspiring to lie about this happening and coming to pass? Look at your political events and watch the signs.
Is it a lie that some of the positions Hillary is for are against the laws God gave to the Christians, as per the books in the Bible? And that Trump's positions (except for the sleaze scandal distraction) are in accordance with God's laws and preserving our Constitution? Many do not understand this yet, but this election is a pivotal moment in history, the path this country goes down has never been more important.
[Edited on 10/10/2016 by gina]
So. here you have it - a die-hard Trump supporter's view of reality.
