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Muleman1994
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The Iowa Caucuses

We have heard the speeches, seen the polls, watched the debates (the GOP debates anyway, the democrats in an effort to help Hillary held their debates when few were watching), heard the TV talking heads and the pundits. Everyone has expressed their opinions but now we will hear from the voters.

Will the result on Monday nights voting be as you have been told?

The “winners” will not be only the top vote getters but also the political parties who can muster the most people to actually vote.

History tells us that one of the below will be our next President… or not.

[Edited on 1/31/2016 by Muleman1994]


 
Posted : January 31, 2016 7:44 am
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Shockingly, the Democrats and Republicans operate their caucuses differently:

How the Iowa Democratic and Republican caucuses work
Published January 29, 2016 - FoxNews.com

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/29/how-iowa-democratic-and-republican-caucuses-work.html?intcmp=hpbt1


 
Posted : January 31, 2016 11:14 am
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I heard that weather will be a factor. Unlike New York where people can vote anywhere from
6 am - 9 pm, in Iowa they have to vote from 7 pm - 9 pm, so if the weather is bad, some of them may not come out, also a lot of people are just tired after work and do not want to wait on voter lines.


 
Posted : January 31, 2016 11:32 am
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I understand that one of the Democrats is a Socialist and the other likely a criminal. So why am I more afraid of the Republican candidates?


 
Posted : January 31, 2016 11:36 am
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I understand that one of the Democrats is a Socialist and the other likely a criminal. So why am I more afraid of the Republican candidates?

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Because the left-wing media told you how to think?


 
Posted : January 31, 2016 4:13 pm
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I understand that one of the Democrats is a Socialist and the other likely a criminal. So why am I more afraid of the Republican candidates?

Because the left-wing media told you how to think?

Yeah, that's gotta be it.


 
Posted : February 1, 2016 3:14 am
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[Edited on 2/2/2016 by Muleman1994]


 
Posted : February 1, 2016 5:27 pm
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Shockingly, the Democrats and Republicans operate their caucuses differently:

How the Iowa Democratic and Republican caucuses work
Published January 29, 2016 - FoxNews.com

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/29/how-iowa-democratic-and-republican-caucuses-work.html?intcmp=hpbt1

Does "winner take all" as far as delegates go, or does each precinct elect their own delegate?


 
Posted : February 1, 2016 5:47 pm
Jerry
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Listening to Rubio, waiting for Trump to speak his observations.


 
Posted : February 1, 2016 6:43 pm
Muleman1994
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Shockingly, the Democrats and Republicans operate their caucuses differently:

How the Iowa Democratic and Republican caucuses work
Published January 29, 2016 - FoxNews.com

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/29/how-iowa-democratic-and-republican-caucuses-work.html?intcmp=hpbt1

Does "winner take all" as far as delegates go, or does each precinct elect their own delegate?

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You would think your question to be easily answered but NO!

GOP:

The total base number of delegates allocated to each of the 50 U.S. states is 10 at-large delegates, plus 3 delegates per congressional district.

Dems:

The Democratic Party uses pledged delegates and super-delegates. Good luck determining the actual number. A basic search will give you varying numbers.


 
Posted : February 1, 2016 6:44 pm
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With almost all caucuses counted:

GOP: Ted Cruz beats Trump handily with Marco Rubio close behind; massive turnout.

Dems: Hillary Clinton barely edges Bernie Sanders, weak turnout.
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Who will be the first one in the morning, still in their jammies, to run to the TV cameras and exclaim:

“As I have said from the very beginning my candidacy will burst forth onto the national stage in New Hampshire!”


 
Posted : February 1, 2016 6:49 pm
Jerry
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Finally got through to a website about the Iowa Caucuses, Iowa does not have a "winner take all" rule. Delegates go by percentage of votes cast per district. At least that's what I get out of the website.


 
Posted : February 1, 2016 6:54 pm
Jerry
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Man, that was the shortest speech I've ever heard Trump give.


 
Posted : February 1, 2016 6:55 pm
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Iowa stays true to supporting fringe candidates - Santorum, Huckabee, and now Cruz..

On the plus side the word evangelical can be shelved for 4 more years.


 
Posted : February 2, 2016 2:31 am
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On the plus side the word evangelical can be shelved for 4 more years.

Not quite. We have SC in a couple weeks and the rest of the Bible Belt in March.


 
Posted : February 2, 2016 4:27 am
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On the plus side the word evangelical can be shelved for 4 more years.

Not quite. We have SC in a couple weeks and the rest of the Bible Belt in March.

trump better find more bibles with his mom's signature in them.


 
Posted : February 2, 2016 4:42 am
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I think Trump's toast. The thing about his bigoted, hate filled supporters is that they are so loud they think they are the only voice in the room. There are a lot of voices in America. Trump never offered any substance. His Mexican wall rhetoric turned him into a caricature, a cartoon. In the end, instead of a ringmaster, he will be revealed a clown.

It was fun and entertaining while it lasted. The flame out should be entertaining as well.

[Edited on 2/2/2016 by BillyBlastoff]


 
Posted : February 2, 2016 4:57 am
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Best news out of Iowa is Rubio is not dead; like him or not he is not Darth Vader like (ie: Cruz or Trump)


 
Posted : February 2, 2016 5:27 am
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Best news out of Iowa is Rubio is not dead; like him or not he is not Darth Vader like (ie: Cruz or Trump)

Agree, and am pleasantly surprised by the strength of his showing.


 
Posted : February 2, 2016 6:02 am
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I think Trump's toast. The thing about his bigoted, hate filled supporters is that they are so loud they think they are the only voice in the room. There are a lot of voices in America. Trump never offered any substance. His Mexican wall rhetoric turned him into a caricature, a cartoon. In the end, instead of a ringmaster, he will be revealed a clown.

It was fun and entertaining while it lasted. The flame out should be entertaining as well.

I realize you are excited for that to happen, but let's temper our emotions a bit. Grin

Trump is crushing everyone else in the polls in New Hampshire. Entirely different set of voters there. I think his backing out of that last debate hurt him, methinks he misunderestimated how fickle voters are down to the last second.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nh/new_hampshire_republican_presidential_primary-3350.html

The last three GOP winners in Iowa are...2016-Ted Cruz, 2012-Rick Santorum and 2008-Mike Huckabee.


 
Posted : February 2, 2016 6:08 am
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Record setting turnout for The Republicans in Iowa. Democrats turnout was pathetic.

Even better, Hillary Clinton is cheating already.

Hillary Clinton campaign accused of voter fraud in Polk County, Iowa

http://www.examiner.com/article/hillary-clinton-campaign-accused-of-voter-fraud-polk-county-iowa


 
Posted : February 2, 2016 6:30 am
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I realize you are excited for that to happen, but let's temper our emotions a bit.

Trump is crushing everyone else in the polls in New Hampshire. Entirely different set of voters there. I think his backing out of that last debate hurt him, methinks he misunderestimated how fickle voters are down to the last second.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nh/new_hampshire_rep ublican_presidential_primary-3350.html

The last three GOP winners in Iowa are...2016-Ted Cruz, 2012-Rick Santorum and 2008-Mike Huckabee.

All you say is true Hawk. Plus, a caucus is far different than a vote. I caucused in Iowa when Obama ran for the first time. It took hours on a cold night. The walk home was brutal. The whole system seems archaic and I don't believe it represents the population.


 
Posted : February 2, 2016 6:44 am
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I think Trump's toast. The thing about his bigoted, hate filled supporters is that they are so loud they think they are the only voice in the room. There are a lot of voices in America. Trump never offered any substance. His Mexican wall rhetoric turned him into a caricature, a cartoon. In the end, instead of a ringmaster, he will be revealed a clown.

It was fun and entertaining while it lasted. The flame out should be entertaining as well.

I realize you are excited for that to happen, but let's temper our emotions a bit. Grin

Trump is crushing everyone else in the polls in New Hampshire. Entirely different set of voters there. I think his backing out of that last debate hurt him, methinks he misunderestimated how fickle voters are down to the last second.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nh/new_hampshire_republican_presidential_primary-3350.html

The last three GOP winners in Iowa are...2016-Ted Cruz, 2012-Rick Santorum and 2008-Mike Huckabee.

Good points.

Ouch, that hurt! Grin


 
Posted : February 2, 2016 7:13 am
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Cruz won 28% of 32% of 19% of 1% of the country. 0.016% of the country as a whole. (H/T FiveThirtyEight)

So that's something. 😛


 
Posted : February 2, 2016 7:26 am
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Cruz won 28% of 32% of 19% of 1% of the country. 0.016% of the country as a whole. (H/T FiveThirtyEight)

So that's something. 😛

That is amusing. I think the only information to be gleaned from the caucuses are whether or not candidates exceeded or fell short of expectations. Cruz clearly exceeded while trump got a little wind knocked out of his sails. I'd say Rubio somewhat exceeded expectations. On the Democratic side it was too close to call going in so the results are about as expected, although if you told anyone 6 months ago that Bernie would tie Hillary in Iowa they'd say you were crazy.


 
Posted : February 2, 2016 8:15 am
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I realize you are excited for that to happen, but let's temper our emotions a bit.

Trump is crushing everyone else in the polls in New Hampshire. Entirely different set of voters there. I think his backing out of that last debate hurt him, methinks he misunderestimated how fickle voters are down to the last second.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nh/new_hampshire_rep ublican_presidential_primary-3350.html

The last three GOP winners in Iowa are...2016-Ted Cruz, 2012-Rick Santorum and 2008-Mike Huckabee.

All you say is true Hawk. Plus, a caucus is far different than a vote. I caucused in Iowa when Obama ran for the first time. It took hours on a cold night. The walk home was brutal. The whole system seems archaic and I don't believe it represents the population.

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“I don't believe it represents the population”

Of course you don’t. The liberals had an embarrassing night in Iowa.

The Republicans had a massive turnout last night and the democrats did not.

Hillary had to resort to voter fraud just to achieve a tie with a socialist.

Anyone notice that here in the WP, the liberals are all “Cruz this Trump that” but have nothing to say about their candidates or their pathetic turnout?


 
Posted : February 2, 2016 8:25 am
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I don't know that it was that pathetic. I'd have to see what the turnout usually is in like the last what, 10 caucuses? the dems caucus is pretty unusual and I'm guessing turnout is always low, especially if the weather is bad.


 
Posted : February 2, 2016 8:53 am
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The Republicans had a massive turnout last night and the democrats did not.

Mule. You are a moron.

Iowa’s 2016 caucus attendance was a doozy.

Republicans counted more than 180,000 caucusgoers, topping their 2012 attendance record of 121,503 by an estimated 60,000 people.

And while Democratic numbers weren’t completely tallied at the time of this publication, all indications pointed to a robust performance, although not likely to top the roughly 240,000 total who showed up in 2008 to vote for a Democratic rock-star field led by Barack Obama, John Edwards and Hillary Clinton.

The turnouts shunned conventional wisdom that high participation would equate to a Donald Trump victory, said Kedron Bardwell, the chairman of the political science department at Simpson College.

“It’s not what people were expecting in terms of what would happen if we had an increased turnout,” Bardwell said. “This is a dynamic kind of effect. If people anticipate that Trump is going to win, it also motivates the people that want anybody but Trump.”

Republican Party of Iowa Chairman Jeff Kaufmann said he is "very, very proud of my fellow citizens" for the record turnout.

"If there was ever a doubt that the people of Iowa believe in grassroots democracy, I think tonight that doubt is completely erased,” Kaufmann said.

Some caucusgoers reported delays due to crowds.

At least one Democratic voter precinct at Iowa State University initially ran out of voter registration papers, according to a report from Betsy Woodruff, a reporter for The Daily Beast. At other sites, caucusgoers tweeted photos of site officials printing more ballots.

Brad Anderson, a Democrat and former candidate for secretary of state, reported that his caucus site at Perkins Elementary in Des Moines was so full that people “we’re getting kicked out into the parking lot.”

A downtown precinct at the Des Moines Social Club was delayed due to hundreds of people waiting in line. At around 7:15 p.m. the overflow was being herded into the facility’s basement. The actual caucus didn’t start until after 7:30 p.m when the count was 469 people, 300 more than organizers had expected.

Thomas Bakke, who caucused at the East Elementary gymnasium, was at a site where organizers discovered they had forgotten to have attendees sign in. Bakke estimated around 150 people were at the site.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2016/02/02/caucus-turnout-robust-record-setting-and-surprising/79626128/


 
Posted : February 2, 2016 9:05 am
Muleman1994
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I don't know that it was that pathetic. I'd have to see what the turnout usually is in like the last what, 10 caucuses? the dems caucus is pretty unusual and I'm guessing turnout is always low, especially if the weather is bad.

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Fortunately the weather was great; the storm hitting after the caucuses closed.

Forty years of history is exactly that, history. Republicans came out in huge numbers, democrats did not. An enthusiasm problem? A candidate problem? Only the pundits will tell you they know.

Hillary Clinton campaign mouthpiece stepped in it, throws race card on the way out of Iowa:

“Iowa is not indicative of the democratic party. Iowa voters are 91% white”.

His statement is obviously thought out. Bernie Sanders is projected to beat Hillary Clinton by a wide margin in NH so the Hillary Clinton campaign is focusing on SC when she has been campaigning heavily in the black community.

Using people because of the color of their skin is so contrary to what Dr. King taught.

The best thing that can happen now for the democrats is a Hillary Clinton perp-walk.

I may have a solution for your screen-name mission: medical hemp!

[Edited on 2/2/2016 by Muleman1994]


 
Posted : February 2, 2016 9:08 am
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I don't know that it was that pathetic. I'd have to see what the turnout usually is in like the last what, 10 caucuses? the dems caucus is pretty unusual and I'm guessing turnout is always low, especially if the weather is bad.

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Fortunately the weather was great; the storm hitting after the caucuses closed.

Forty years of history is exactly that, history. Republicans came out in huge numbers, democrats did not. An enthusiasm problem? A candidate problem? Only the pundits will tell you they know.

Hillary Clinton campaign mouthpiece stepped in it, throws race card on the way out of Iowa:

“Iowa is not indicative of the democratic party. Iowa voters are 91% white”.

His statement is obviously thought out. Bernie Sanders is projected to beat Hillary Clinton by a wide margin in NH so the Hillary Clinton campaign is focusing on SC when she has been campaigning heavily in the black community.

Using people because of the color of their skin is so contrary to what Dr. King taught.

The best thing that can happen now for the democrats is a Hillary Clinton perp-walk.

This is more of your racist garbage. In your mind blacks are not human and capable of independent thought unless they agree with your way of thinking. Hence you like Ben Carson and the Black Republican Party but any other blacks are simply entrapped by some dependency caused by paternalistic liberals. If they vote liberal they have no independent thought or agency. You have to have a very fu_cked up brain to come up with this crap. It's also not Christian as the Bible specifies that humans take care of the meek.


 
Posted : February 2, 2016 9:31 am
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