Look through this thread and take note of who does the name calling, accusing & so forth. State an opinion contrary to the beliefs of Mr. Keller, Boynton Brother, Pops & Billy B. and the crap starts flying. Tolerance? Please. Who brought out the racism card? Who here asked about being a Nazi? Who referred to the President as scum?...Who called the President a Moron? Which person here defends Hostility? Who used the term "Cockroaches"? I was accused of "unraveling" and "getting bent" when no such thing occurred...Who in their right minds wants to engage in conversation when this type of ineffectual, infantile response awaits. All because your opinion is different.

This is so weak and pathetic. Because I got angry and posted some name-calling, it means your entire theory about hating liberals is correct! Give us all a break from your melodrama. It's silly. Trump is tweeting like a maniac everyday while Obama never did such a childish thing. But the moment a liberal gets angry at the childish treason of our President, you equate the two. You are a joke! Stay at the kids table.

Still waiting on your thoughts as to how/why he won the Republican nomination. It seems like you are terrified to get into it. Probably because you have nothing!

Dude you are totally confused. The RIGHT was threatened by MLK? Check you history son. Are you one of those that tries to attribute the Jim Crow Laws to Republicans? The right was fed up with Obama, you got that part right. And now you have President Trump. As for why America chose Trump over 17 other Republicans see my policy issues above and better yet READ THE POST ABOVE THIS BY BIGV. NAIL ON THE HEAD. This is a blast!

Your opinion is worthless to me because you zero in on semantics instead of addressing my point like a coward. F policy and party. I have no issue whatsoever with Republican values. A bunch of pigs hijacked the party as far as I'm concerned. You think he won because of policy? He was talking about the wall at that time. Some policy! So in depth!

But the moment a liberal gets angry at the childish treason of our President, you equate the two.

So you are a Liberal?

Your opinion is worthless to me because you zero in on semantics instead of addressing my point like a coward.

The above is why Trump won.

Still waiting on your thoughts as to how/why he won the Republican nomination.

At least you are now referring to it correctly as the Nomination and not the "Primary"....lol. Read my above post, I stated why I believe he won, typically, it is not the answer that fits your agenda so you will trash it. That's OK, I am quite used to that.

Your opinion is worthless to me because you zero in on semantics instead of addressing my point like a coward.

The above is why Trump won.

So, how liberals behave drives the outcomes of elections?

Your opinion is worthless to me because you zero in on semantics instead of addressing my point like a coward.

The above is why Trump won.

So, how liberals behave drives the outcomes of elections?

In this case, I believe so, yes. I can not tell you how many times I witnessed this first hand. After telling people I did not like Clinton the response went something like this "How can you vote for that A$$ wipe"? my response was. "I am voting a Libertarian ticket, which means I am voting for Gary Johnson"...Response, "Well then, you are wasting your vote"... My reply "Disagree, I am participating in the process, but believe Trump will win"...Response "What!?...How can you support that &%$#*&&^?!".. "I am not" response, "He is an *^&^%&, I can't believe you like him"!....my reply "I don't, I am voting for Gary Johnson"...and so on....This became so commonplace that hardly anyone publicly claimed to support Trump leading to Clinton looking like a winner in the pols.....The Dems can blame themselves here; there was zero discussion about the Election because of the Liberal response, just read through this thread......

Your opinion is worthless to me because you zero in on semantics instead of addressing my point like a coward.

The above is why Trump won.

So, how liberals behave drives the outcomes of elections?

In this case, I believe so, yes. I can not tell you how many times I witnessed this first hand. After telling people I did not like Clinton the response went something like this "How can you vote for that A$$ wipe"? my response was. "I am voting a Libertarian ticket, which means I am voting for Gary Johnson"...Response, "Well then, you are wasting your vote"... My reply "Disagree, I am participating in the process, but believe Trump will win"...Response "What!?...How can you support that &%$#*&&^?!".. "I am not" response, "He is an *^&^%&, I can't believe you like him"!....my reply "I don't, I am voting for Gary Johnson"...and so on....This became so commonplace that hardly anyone publicly claimed to support Trump leading to Clinton looking like a winner in the pols.....The Dems can blame themselves here; there was zero discussion about the Election because of the Liberal response, just read through this thread......

Cool story, bro.

What are your thoughts as to why/how Trump won the primary?

Hi Boyton.
Thought I would quote your question and ask which state primary were you referring to.

Start Edit:
Found this map that you might find useful. It has the results from all the primaries and caucuses, both dem and gop.
https://www.politico.com/mapdata-2016/2016-election/primary/results/map/president/

[Edited on 12/2/2017 by Jerry]

BIGV's point is that when liberals went low, he decided to go lower...."this is why Trump won". Because liberals got mad (and I'm referring to your opinion of the liberal "problem", not myself) at a hostile, immature, bully making a mockery of our office, you equate the two? That's flat out stupid. Because liberals got angry at the brutal attacks on Obama, they are the same as the attackers? That appears to be your juvenile logic.

[Edited on 12/2/2017 by BoytonBrother]

Hi Boyton.
Thought I would quote your question and ask which state primary were you referring to.

Start Edit:
Found this map that you might find useful. It has the results from all the primaries and caucuses, both dem and gop.
https://www.politico.com/mapdata-2016/2016-election/primary/results/map/pre sident/

Interested in offering your thoughts as to how/why Trump got the nomination instead? I already know the results.

BIGV's point is that went liberals went low, he decided to go lower...."this is why Trump won".

You asked and I answered. If it does not fit your idea of logic, or your agenda, well that's tough.

In this case, I believe so, yes. I can not tell you how many times I witnessed this first hand. After telling people I did not like Clinton the response went something like this "How can you vote for that A$$ wipe"? my response was. "I am voting a Libertarian ticket, which means I am voting for Gary Johnson"...Response, "Well then, you are wasting your vote"... My reply "Disagree, I am participating in the process, but believe Trump will win"...Response "What!?...How can you support that &%$#*&&^?!".. "I am not" response, "He is an *^&^%&, I can't believe you like him"!....my reply "I don't, I am voting for Gary Johnson"...and so on....This became so commonplace that hardly anyone publicly claimed to support Trump leading to Clinton looking like a winner in the pols.....The Dems can blame themselves here; there was zero discussion about the Election because of the Liberal response, just read through this thread......

Listen to yourself! "the liberal response" of being hostile and intolerant? You mean like PM'ing me to confront me about what I type here? Did I ever PM you about your content? No! But you sure PM'd me to complain about mine. Stop acting like you are better or any different - because you aren't. You should know the difference between daily hostility on Twitter, and people speaking out against it - it's not the same thing. To equate the two and claim hypocrisy is juvenile and foolish.

In this case, I believe so, yes. I can not tell you how many times I witnessed this first hand. After telling people I did not like Clinton the response went something like this "How can you vote for that A$$ wipe"? my response was. "I am voting a Libertarian ticket, which means I am voting for Gary Johnson"...Response, "Well then, you are wasting your vote"... My reply "Disagree, I am participating in the process, but believe Trump will win"...Response "What!?...How can you support that &%$#*&&^?!".. "I am not" response, "He is an *^&^%&, I can't believe you like him"!....my reply "I don't, I am voting for Gary Johnson"...and so on....This became so commonplace that hardly anyone publicly claimed to support Trump leading to Clinton looking like a winner in the pols.....The Dems can blame themselves here; there was zero discussion about the Election because of the Liberal response, just read through this thread......

Listen to yourself! "the liberal response" of being hostile and intolerant? You mean like PM'ing me to confront me about what I type here? Did I ever PM you about your content? No! But you sure PM'd me to complain about mine. Stop acting like you are better or any different - because you aren't. You should know the difference between daily hostility on Twitter, and people speaking out against it - it's not the same thing. To equate the two and claim hypocrisy is juvenile and foolish.

I post an opinion about the Election and you become agitated. Too funny and if you doubt that, scroll through this thread, it ain't me Pal.

Did I ever PM you about your content? No! But you sure PM'd me to complain about mine.

You mean last February?

Do me a favor and stop PMing me.

Your opinion is worthless to me because you zero in on semantics instead of addressing my point like a coward.

The above is why Trump won.

So, how liberals behave drives the outcomes of elections?

I do think, and as BIGV explained in his response, that did happen in this particular election.

A lot of those who did vote for Trump cast an "in spite of" vote. You can see by the way that Boyton has behaved in this thread how that could occur.

Poor Boy-ton! He is on full tilt here all because people with different opinions didnt appreciate his clever thread title. Boyton if you want to know why Trump won go back and read some of the many threads I posted about jobs, the economy, and rejecting the political elite class like Jeb! Now I know this admission only solidifies your opinion that I must be a racist, misogynist, low -info, homophobe, scared of brown people, and I secretly polish my swastikas and iron my sheets for rallies and own tiki torch oil for alterior reasons.

...and of course illegal immigration. After decades of being told that the border is secure by both democrats and republicans ( many of which were gunning for the nomination) while droves of people flooded into the US unchecked.

[Edited on 12/2/2017 by OriginalGoober]

I do think, and as BIGV explained in his response, that did happen in this particular election.

A lot of those who did vote for Trump cast an "in spite of" vote. You can see by the way that Boyton has behaved in this thread how that could occur.

Fine, I acted badly in this thread. Liberals have acted badly with intolerance and hostility. All true. And in response, the right decided to go lower out of spite, which is sad! And since it is true, there was an easy opportunity for the right to demonstrate that they are better, but like you said, that did happen in this particular election. Sad! Some might argue that the bigger failure falls on those who chose to go lower out of spite.

And in response, the right decided to go lower out of spite

Where?

Poor Boy-ton! He is on full tilt here all because people with different opinions didnt appreciate his clever thread title.

I find it interesting that those people felt uncomfortable discussing it. Why?

Boyton if you want to know why Trump won go back and read some of the many threads I posted about jobs, the economy, and rejecting the political elite class like Jeb!

Why didn't you say this instead of what is sitting there as the first post of the thread? If I were BIGV, I would say, "THIS is why we voted for Obama". But I wouldn't, because that's ridiculous.

Now I know this admission only solidifies your opinion that I must be a racist, misogynist, low -info, homophobe, scared of brown people, and I secretly polish my swastikas and iron my sheets for rallies and own tiki torch oil for alterior reasons.

I don't think it's a hate for minority groups...I think it's more of a feeling of being threatened by change.

...and of course illegal immigration. After decades of being told that the border is secure by both democrats and republicans ( many of which were gunning for the nomination) while droves of people flooded into the US unchecked.

I can understand this concern for those living in a border state, but if not, then I think people use this as their boogeyman. And you gotta think out of the box a little. Why can't it be stopped? Lets face it, Trump might put a small dent in it during his term but that's about it - it's more of a feel-good move more than anything else. It can't be stopped because our economy needs them. Businesses of all sizes need them. My far-right wing friend has a small business, and hiring is his biggest challenge. He now has mostly immigrants on his staff because they are the most productive and best people he could find, lol. Like I said, our economy needs them. Latin America is poor because their development is not a priority for the US. There's nothing Trump can do about that.

Anyway, it was refreshing to see a decent attempt to engage and add to the discussion for once, instead of trolling.

Where?

I was referring to Trump, and your own quote above about how it did happend in this election - that they voted for Trump because of bad liberal behavior.

Where?

and your own quote above

And this is "Taking it lower"?

Lower than referring to people as "scum", "Racists" & "Cockroaches"?

No, I'm afraid you set that bar.

And this is "Taking it lower"?

Putting a personality like Trump in the office out of spite, not because he's best for our country, is a much bigger failure than liberals spouting off a bunch of b.s.

Lower than referring to people as "scum", "Racists" & "Cockroaches"?

No, I'm afraid you set that bar.

Putting a person like Trump in office out of spite, not because he was the best, is a little bigger than my inappropriate website post, don't you think? And are ya sure about that bar comment? Go back and read the first 2 posts, and see how my thread was met. Seems pretty...pretty.....pretty.......pretty low to me.

And are ya sure about that bar comment?

Yeah, pretty sure, I just read through the whole thread. No wait, I'm positive.

And there it is. The holier than everyone position. Everyone's a hypocrite, and your passive agressiveness is somehow better than the left's. Whatever.

And there it is. The holier than everyone position. Everyone's a hypocrite, and your passive agressiveness is somehow better than the left's. Whatever.

Too funny

Fine, I acted badly in this thread.

But it's someone else's fault!

Huh? That quote is the exact opposite of blaming others....it's me admitting fault. I'm bailing out after that delusion. Mule and Jerry, what are your thoughts on global warming?

Hi Boyton.
Thought I would quote your question and ask which state primary were you referring to.

Start Edit:
Found this map that you might find useful. It has the results from all the primaries and caucuses, both dem and gop.
https://www.politico.com/mapdata-2016/2016-election/primary/results/map/pre sident/

Interested in offering your thoughts as to how/why Trump got the nomination instead? I already know the results.

Short answer, he won more delegates than did the others running in the GOP primaries.

Short answer, he won more delegates than did the others running in the GOP primaries.

Make it interesting...gimme the long answer. The other 17 wasted their time. None stood a chance. What was worth having low rent behavior that is beneath the office? Some here stated that they voted in the low rent behavior on purpose, out of spite for bad liberal behavior. Is that your position as well?