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jkeller
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Do you expect Oil to stay under $70/bbl indefinitely?

Yes, as long as OPEC tries to undermine shale oil production in the US.


 
Posted : January 20, 2015 2:36 pm
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Tax hikes, free college, scolding Congress....

I can't wait.

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Exactly.
Obama is always willing to work with The Congress as long as they do what he wants.

Hopefully the speech will be more a comedy instead of the usual tragedy.
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I'm sure the major focus of the speech will be on the national debt doubling from $9 to $18 Trillion in six years on his watch and the need for fiscal restraint. Secondary point will be underlining the need to address the radical Islamist situation. Those are sure to be at the top of the list.

I'm sure most of the speech will go right over your head.

Really? Who falls for his BS and who doesn't? He belongs on a used car lot.

That's funny coming from a guy who gets most of his talking points from right wing emails. 😛


 
Posted : January 20, 2015 2:37 pm
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It has been argued tirelessly alloak. You want to risk your children's environment for a project that will not boost the United States economy. The jobs touted from the pipeline has been proven to be a giant overestimation, yet you are blind to those reports. Your drives through Texas and Florida tell you the infrastructure is doing just fine and what your blind eyes don't see is that massive improvements to our infrastructure would be a far greater boost to the United States middle class yet you support the degradation of this once great nation.

All I can surmise is that you are, at heart, a Canadian spy sent to infiltrate United States hearts and minds with propaganda to sell more Canadian oil.

You rascal you.


 
Posted : January 20, 2015 2:39 pm
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Honestly, I started out in favor of Keystone XL. I'm not sure now. Undecided.


 
Posted : January 20, 2015 2:48 pm
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From what I understand about Keystone is that the oil will be directly loaded onto tankers and shipped to other countries. Gulf Coast refineries are operating at capacity already and cannot handle the oil from Keystone.


 
Posted : January 20, 2015 3:09 pm
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A recent Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll finds that these are The American Citizens top priorities:

Creating Jobs – 85%
Defeating & Dismantling ISIS – 74%
Reducing Federal Budget Deficit – 71%
Securing Southern Boarder – 58%
Addressing Iran’s Nuclear Problem – 56%

Source: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/scarboroughs-claim-electorate-is-increasingly-conservative-disproved-by-his-own-poll/

Let’s see tonight if Obama calls for any action on the people priorities.


 
Posted : January 20, 2015 3:31 pm
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Honestly, I started out in favor of Keystone XL. I'm not sure now. Undecided.

How many full time jobs projected from this project?

How much of output slated for USA consumption?

Of that above figure what is impact to price per gallon of gas?

What are the environmental impacts?

Do you consider this a good cost / benefit project?


 
Posted : January 20, 2015 3:46 pm
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The SOTU is a complete waste of time regardless of who is President. As the extremely harsh and unfair bashing of Obama continues from SOME conservatives that I've seen on social media and TV, it is so glaringly obvious that this portion of extremists simply cannot stand having a black person in charge and making decisions, and it drives them NUTS! That is not to say they are racist, and that they hate a person simply based on their skin color, but it is so obvious that having one in charge drives them to brink of insanity. Their bashing makes no sense whatsoever, and their hatred blinds them from seeing it. It's hilarious.....sad, but hilarious at the same time. Just throw logic and pride out the window, and rant like an ignorant imbecile - go right ahead if it makes you feel better.

[Edited on 1/21/2015 by BoytonBrother]


 
Posted : January 20, 2015 7:01 pm
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ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz.................


 
Posted : January 21, 2015 2:47 am
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Is pizza on a friday nite some sort of whoop-dee-dooo special occasion? Mr President, what world do you live in?


 
Posted : January 21, 2015 4:38 am
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/01/20/1359036/-Republicans-say-no-to-American-made-steel-for-Keystone-XL?detail=facebook

Republicans didn't want strong Buy American Language in the Recovery and Reinvestment Act either. And they suck for it. I do wish that Democrats would do more than simply provide lip service to US-first trade deals when they are the ones actually writing the laws. President wants fast track trade authority, as if not letting members of Congress suggest changes to trade bills is a better alternative? Promises of opening new markets for US goods mostly leads to a US market becoming a dumping ground for new imports. After decades upon decades, when is that one going to change? Government uses trade law as a diplomatic tool first and foremost without much reasoning if it will or will not have a positive economic impact on our country despite what we are told. Trade deals should be about US goods and services front and center, Keystone XL should be no different.

Being that this is a Canadian company building in our country I think it is reasonable that their company should have the right to source materials from their own country as well. I would have stood with the the amendment for using American steel, but also think that allowing US and Canadian steel to build the pipeline would be acceptable. Language like minimum 55% US content with balance coming from Canadian content.

As for keeping the oil here rather than exporting it, would seem some level of nationalized oil industry would be needed to take that oil off the global market and utilize it only for domestic needs. Which I would support. How many brls per day is the pipeline expected to supply? Canada is by far already our #1 supplier of crude oil, why not give them more business? If it means we can cut out middle east or other OPEC countries that are complete cluster fcks then let's do it. The sooner we stop depending on those bastardized nations for our oil the better it will be for us. Thankfully due to North American production the OPEC dependance is getting close to half of what it was about 7 years ago.

I was resentful of the President proclaiming our lowest level of oil dependence. The steady and significant growth in the production has nothing to do with his policies, in fact are in spite of them. But it won't be the first time a President took credit for something they shouldn't. Hey atleast we have those higher CAFE standards (patting himself on the back).

We also need natural gas to compete in the transportation field. Nat gas replacing coal for electricity generation is fine, but we need it to be a transportation fuel to further reduce our dependance on foreign oil and give the booming gas industry here another market for the gas they produce.

More oil and gas production and biofuels will do more to become energy independent than CAFE standards. Funny thing about CAFE standards. Ever notice that those ultracompact and ultra efficient cars (not hybrids) that GM and Ford build (the Spark, the Fiesta), where do they come from? Not built here, they can't build them here and make money on them. So it is a contradiction between energy independance/efficiency and promoting US jobs to push cars like this.

Want to be environmentally friendly and green too? Then the products used to achieve that goal must come from here too. If your green energy saving product says made in China on it then it may be an "inconvenient truth" that more pollutants were emitted in making and getting that product in your hands than you are saving.

Ah, this is why I hate to talk about any of this stuff any more. Because it ALL sucks!


 
Posted : January 21, 2015 5:24 am
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Case and point above.


 
Posted : January 21, 2015 5:24 am
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Obama could cure cancer and the right would criticize him for it.


 
Posted : January 21, 2015 5:25 am
nebish
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Case and point above.

Not sure what you are talking about.

I'm talking about how fucked up and contradictory this country is and it has been happening for my entire life, not just the last 7 years.


 
Posted : January 21, 2015 5:29 am
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Is pizza on a friday nite some sort of whoop-dee-dooo special occasion? Mr President, what world do you live in?

It was while I was growing up. In my house and many others in my neighborhood. Nowadays the wife and I go out for dinner on Wednesday to one of several restaurants. Other than that we like to go to Richmond or DC for brunch once or twice a month.

I have no idea what pizza has to do with the President.


 
Posted : January 21, 2015 6:22 am
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For an awful lot of economically challenged people Pizza on a Friday night is a big deal. And for those of us who love it (especially the thin crust variety) it is still a treat.


 
Posted : January 21, 2015 6:41 am
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Nebish, my apologies. I was referring to the post above yours, with the pizza photos.


 
Posted : January 21, 2015 6:49 am
heineken515
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I have no idea what pizza has to do with the President.

He brought it up in the speech last night.


 
Posted : January 21, 2015 6:51 am
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I have no idea what pizza has to do with the President.

He brought it up in the speech last night.

Anecdotal reference. Apparently it's the first time anyone's ever used one in a speech before.


 
Posted : January 21, 2015 7:00 am
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Better days are ahead for all those hard working middle class Americans dreaming of a warm pizza (no anchovies).

[Edited on 1/21/2015 by OriginalGoober]


 
Posted : January 21, 2015 7:07 am
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OriginalGoober doesn't mind when a colored fella plays drums in his favorite band, but having one run the country and make decisions for Americans....now that's where he draws the line!


 
Posted : January 21, 2015 7:18 am
OriginalGoober
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just saying if this little story was told after the Great Recesssion it would seem appropriate. 6 years later a Friday nite pizza possibility is a sad commentary on his Presidency.


 
Posted : January 21, 2015 7:49 am
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My point was about perception; Obama has admitted to not being very good at that issue re: playing the politics of perception in a crisis. I said it is meaningless to his performance; poor for his image.

I think he realizes your point. Just chose to ignore it. It is also not meaningless for his performance because a huge part of being president is actually leading the nation and perception is a huge part of the ability to lead a nation of 300 million people since he cannot speak to each citizen individually. The public perception is that he is aloof and detached during times of crisis. Perception is reality when it comes to leading something neither Obama nor his fan club will ever understand until a Republican takes office and has similar problems (See e.g. Bush I) . Then they will get it entirely.


 
Posted : January 21, 2015 8:22 am
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I know it doesn't need my attention. I can't stand the clapping or faux outrage. I think it is the most disgusting display in all of American politics.

So much is appearance; if you are golfing and you get bad news (previous issue I can't remember which) you stop even though in reality it changes nothing. Current administration is not good at grasping that point. Maybe James Taylor can bring his guitar tonight and sing "Handy Man"

You mean like continuing to read a children story in a classroom while hijacked planes are flying into buildings?

He did that to avoid panicking the children. Whatever you think of Bush and the job he did overall are you seriously suggesting that he seemed detached and aloof from the crisis on 9/11?


 
Posted : January 21, 2015 8:24 am
dougrhon
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Do you expect Oil to stay under $70/bbl indefinitely?

Yes, as long as OPEC tries to undermine shale oil production in the US.

Now that it's low, it's Obama's doing. You can bet when it goes back up it will be due to circumstances beyond his control.


 
Posted : January 21, 2015 8:26 am
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OriginalGoober doesn't mind when a colored fella plays drums in his favorite band, but having one run the country and make decisions for Americans....now that's where he draws the line!

Nasty and uncalled for. Yet typical.


 
Posted : January 21, 2015 8:28 am
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My comments are no worse than the constant harsh attacks on Obama. Spare me your moral superiority B.S., it's very lame. And out of all my thousands of posts, nastiness is far from typical of me. Next.


 
Posted : January 21, 2015 8:59 am
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Better days are ahead for all those hard working middle class Americans dreaming of a warm pizza (no anchovies).

[Edited on 1/21/2015 by OriginalGoober]

I guess the pizza reference was the only thing you got out of it.


 
Posted : January 21, 2015 10:23 am
jkeller
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I know it doesn't need my attention. I can't stand the clapping or faux outrage. I think it is the most disgusting display in all of American politics.

So much is appearance; if you are golfing and you get bad news (previous issue I can't remember which) you stop even though in reality it changes nothing. Current administration is not good at grasping that point. Maybe James Taylor can bring his guitar tonight and sing "Handy Man"

You mean like continuing to read a children story in a classroom while hijacked planes are flying into buildings?

He did that to avoid panicking the children. Whatever you think of Bush and the job he did overall are you seriously suggesting that he seemed detached and aloof from the crisis on 9/11?

Yes. He was in over his head. He could have cut the reading short without panicking the children. Children all over the country were getting updates as it happened.


 
Posted : January 21, 2015 10:25 am
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