So nothing changes with the GOP in the HOR. With all the talk of jobs, etc., the GOP just can't stay away from social issues and intruding into the personal decisions of women. In an ironic twist, a handful of GOP female reps. stepped up to the plate in revolt. Not to fret, there will be yet another vote on funding.
Do we really want the government continually stepping on individual rights? Isn't the GOP the party of supposed less intrusion? I guess that's their mantra unless it applies to a vagina? With the action in many states across this nation in the last 4 or 5 years in making restrictive laws & closing down abortion centers, I guess Boehner couldn't resist getting in on the action.
This must be the outreach the GOP plans on using next year in trying to win back the women vote which the GOP has lost by double digits in the last two presidential elections.
Concerning that some want to spend so much time, effort and money on the issue. Be it those who wish to promote abortion assistance or limit it from a federal level. There are so many more important things to be focusing on.
Congrats to the GOP for passing a national abortion bill. May not get through the Senate, and surely will be vetoed. Great job in doing the peoples' business. Truly a victory for independent thinking women.
Good for the HOR for doing something that they campaigned on in attempts to be elected...jobs, jobs, jobs and the economy.
Sixty-one percent oppose the use of federal funds for abortion while only 37% favor it.
Veto away.
Sixty-one percent oppose the use of federal funds for abortion while only 37% favor it.
Veto away.
Government should stay out of a woman's personal choices period. As far as polls - so when did politicians begin caring about what constituents think? They get elected and then do as they choose. It's been going on for many years. Using your reasoning, the GOP got blamed by over 60% for shutting down the government. Do you really think they care?
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Sixty-one percent oppose the use of federal funds for abortion while only 37% favor it.
Veto away.
Can you link to that poll Alloak? I'm interested to see how the question was posed, the sample size, and the region of the country where it was conducted.
Sixty-one percent oppose the use of federal funds for abortion while only 37% favor it.
Veto away.
Can you link to that poll Alloak? I'm interested to see how the question was posed, the sample size, and the region of the country where it was conducted.
Certainly.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/11/18/abortion.poll/index.html?_s=PM:POLITICS
Using your reasoning, the GOP got blamed by over 60% for shutting down the government. Do you really think they care?
Damn right they care although I can't imagine why. Again, the GOP has far too many wimps.
Gov't shutdowns have no noticeable effect on about 95%. Hell, the government shuts itself down about two weeks a year. Somehow we get through it.
Sixty-one percent oppose the use of federal funds for abortion while only 37% favor it.
Veto away.
Can you link to that poll Alloak? I'm interested to see how the question was posed, the sample size, and the region of the country where it was conducted.
Certainly.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/11/18/abortion.poll/index.html?_s=PM:POLITICS
LOL they polled 1014 people and this means the majority of the American people oppose using federal funds for abortions? no information on the demographics of the people polled. what a farce.
The poll is 6 years old.
Hey Alloak? Am I to infer from your views on this topic and your posts on "Tragedy in Florida" that you oppose abortion because you want the fetus to get a little older before it gets killed?
Using your reasoning, the GOP got blamed by over 60% for shutting down the government. Do you really think they care?
Damn right they care although I can't imagine why. Again, the GOP has far too many wimps.
Gov't shutdowns have no noticeable effect on about 95%. Hell, the government shuts itself down about two weeks a year. Somehow we get through it.
No they don't care. They don't give a $hit about ordinary citizens other than to beg for money to add to their war chests.
The rest of your response sidesteps GOP politicians shutting down the gov't. because they didn't get their way or wanting to take their ball to another court so they can play.
Being away from DC and purposely shutting down the gov't. out of spite are not one & the same.
I'm beginning to wonder if you come on here to get an argument out of people or provoke others. It's hard for me to believe that you believe half the stuff you actually post. If you really believe these things, all I can say is "wow".
The poll is 6 years old.
Hey Alloak? Am I to infer from your views on this topic and your posts on "Tragedy in Florida" that you oppose abortion because you want the fetus to get a little older before it gets killed?
I'm on the fence and lean pro-choice. Thanks for asking.
LOL they polled 1014 people and this means the majority of the American people oppose using federal funds for abortions?
Does that surprise you?
Using your reasoning, the GOP got blamed by over 60% for shutting down the government. Do you really think they care?
Damn right they care although I can't imagine why. Again, the GOP has far too many wimps.
Gov't shutdowns have no noticeable effect on about 95%. Hell, the government shuts itself down about two weeks a year. Somehow we get through it.
No they don't care. They don't give a $hit about ordinary citizens other than to beg for money to add to their war chests.
The rest of your response sidesteps GOP politicians shutting down the gov't. because they didn't get their way or wanting to take their ball to another court so they can play.
You were talking about blame (see above). They do care about taking the blame. Again, I can't imagine why. Somehow they've been convinced these "shutdowns" are in any way disruptive to the average person.
LOL they polled 1014 people and this means the majority of the American people oppose using federal funds for abortions?
Does that surprise you?
No it does not surprise me you would post a 6 year old poll, of only 1000 people with no demographic info, to try to prove your point that the general public is against something the Obama administration supports. I
Again, I can't imagine why. Somehow they've been convinced these "shutdowns" are in any way disruptive to the average person.
Who has been convinced? The Republican Politicians in Congress?
The poll is 6 years old.
Hey Alloak? Am I to infer from your views on this topic and your posts on "Tragedy in Florida" that you oppose abortion because you want the fetus to get a little older before it gets killed?
Talk about TROLLING for a response.
The GOP has already introduced at least 3 anti-abortion bills in the House and the session not even a month old. Gotta love how those GOP legislative priorities reflect the will of the people...yeah, riiiight. 
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"When asked about the abortion bill Boehner replied; "I think it's high; but I'm still going to pay it""
The GOP has already introduced at least 3 anti-abortion bills in the House and the session not even a month old. Gotta love how those GOP legislative priorities reflect the will of the people...yeah, riiiight.
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And then there are some people, such as Doug on this board, who say that abortion is an unimportant wedge issue that nobody should base their vote on it. He continues to insist that nothing will change regarding abortion if Republicans get elected and only the economy matters. Well, ok then.
Abortion is here to stay. No need to be afraid.
The GOP has already introduced at least 3 anti-abortion bills in the House and the session not even a month old. Gotta love how those GOP legislative priorities reflect the will of the people...yeah, riiiight.
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Abortion will not be outlawed. It cannot be and it will not be. Passing of certain laws such as consent or notification laws for minors do not restrict abortion except in the minds of the radicals who insist it is a positive social good. There was a time when even pro choice advocates like Bill and Hillaray Clinton could state that abortion should be safe legal and rare. I am pro choice and so is the bulk of the country. It will not change but if the Democrats can scare independent voters into ignoring the real issues and focus on this they can retain votes. Similar to what the GOP used to do with crime.
And then there are some people, such as Doug on this board, who say that abortion is an unimportant wedge issue that nobody should base their vote on it. He continues to insist that nothing will change regarding abortion if Republicans get elected and only the economy matters. Well, ok then.
The GOP has already introduced at least 3 anti-abortion bills in the House and the session not even a month old. Gotta love how those GOP legislative priorities reflect the will of the people...yeah, riiiight.
[Edited on 1/28/2015 by gondicar]
Abortion will not be outlawed. It cannot be and it will not be. Passing of certain laws such as consent or notification laws for minors do not restrict abortion except in the minds of the radicals who insist it is a positive social good. There was a time when even pro choice advocates like Bill and Hillaray Clinton could state that abortion should be safe legal and rare. I am pro choice and so is the bulk of the country. It will not change but if the Democrats can scare independent voters into ignoring the real issues and focus on this they can retain votes. Similar to what the GOP used to do with crime.
And then there are some people, such as Doug on this board, who say that abortion is an unimportant wedge issue that nobody should base their vote on it. He continues to insist that nothing will change regarding abortion if Republicans get elected and only the economy matters. Well, ok then.
All you have to do is look at the actions taken at the state level to 1) attempt to make it almost impossible to have an abortion or make a woman jump through mandate hoops or 2) regulations that have actually caused the closure of abortion centers beyond the usual GOP wording of "for the safety of women".
If you spent a 1/2 hour looking at the laws passed & actions taken within various states or reading any of the factual and relevant information I've pasted & posted on this topic, you might think otherwise. But I'm willing to bet your preconceived notions don't take any of that into consideration. The facts & truth be damned.
The GOP has already introduced at least 3 anti-abortion bills in the House and the session not even a month old. Gotta love how those GOP legislative priorities reflect the will of the people...yeah, riiiight.
[Edited on 1/28/2015 by gondicar]
Abortion will not be outlawed. It cannot be and it will not be. Passing of certain laws such as consent or notification laws for minors do not restrict abortion except in the minds of the radicals who insist it is a positive social good. There was a time when even pro choice advocates like Bill and Hillaray Clinton could state that abortion should be safe legal and rare. I am pro choice and so is the bulk of the country. It will not change but if the Democrats can scare independent voters into ignoring the real issues and focus on this they can retain votes. Similar to what the GOP used to do with crime.
And then there are some people, such as Doug on this board, who say that abortion is an unimportant wedge issue that nobody should base their vote on it. He continues to insist that nothing will change regarding abortion if Republicans get elected and only the economy matters. Well, ok then.
All you have to do is look at the actions taken at the state level to 1) attempt to make it almost impossible to have an abortion or make a woman jump through mandate hoops or 2) regulations that have actually caused the closure of abortion centers beyond the usual GOP wording of "for the safety of women".
If you spent a 1/2 hour looking at the laws passed & actions taken within various states or reading any of the factual and relevant information I've pasted & posted on this topic, you might think otherwise. But I'm willing to bet your preconceived notions don't take any of that into consideration. The facts & truth be damned.
Beyond that, the fact that no fewer than 3 bills about restricting abortion have been intro'd in the first 3 weeks of this session of the US Congress says to the nation that it IS a priority issue for the GOP to make it harder for women to exercise their right to choose. The opportunity cost of other more important problems that do get less attention is also something that needs to be considered.
Abortion is American as apple pie and a dependable loaded firearm. Don't worry.
Abortion is American as apple pie and a dependable loaded firearm. Don't worry.
You could really do yourself a favor and read up on actions at the state level before you make sweeping statements that are easily contradicted re: abortion.
Abortion is American as apple pie and a dependable loaded firearm. Don't worry.
I'm pro-choice but that statement is vile. You think abortion is a decision you make as easily as removing your hat during the Star Bangled Banner? Really?
What a disgusting, putrid view.
Abortion is American as apple pie and a dependable loaded firearm. Don't worry.
I'm pro-choice but that statement is vile. You think abortion is a decision you make as easily as removing your hat during the Star Bangled Banner? Really?
If I had a comment regarding the ease of hat removal vs. abortion I would have spelled
it out in my post. I guess I'll know more when it's time for me to get an abortion and will let you know then. How's that?
