Particularly when the official is an ally. Of course Obama doesn't see Netanyahu that way since anyone opposed to any of his policies is THE ENEMY.
Wow! Obama thinks Netanyahu is the enemy? I'm stunned.
If that is the case we better cut off the military aide right NOW!
Particularly when the official is an ally. Of course Obama doesn't see Netanyahu that way since anyone opposed to any of his policies is THE ENEMY.
Wow! Obama thinks Netanyahu is the enemy? I'm stunned.
If that is the case we better cut off the military aide right NOW!
X2.
Yeah - When I read that original passage, it struck me as bizarre. But then one must consider the source.
Have to agree that this is not a negotiation. Boehner is saying f-u to Obama as is Netanyahu. They both must feel it will help their respective causes; only time will tell. There is no love lost between Ben and Barry; that's for sure.
Time we said f-u to israel.
Cut off all money going there.
I agree 100%.
Interesting that Forbes is throwing boner under the bus:
I disagree 100%!!! Not with your disagreement with Boehner, but on your suggestion to cut off aid to Israel. I don't like Boehner and disagree with what he is doing and think it will backfire in his face but to punish our allies and friends in Israel because we disagree with one leader would be not only foolish but downright stupid. Even with the disagreements they still are our only real ally in that entire screwed up whacko region.
Have to agree that this is not a negotiation. Boehner is saying f-u to Obama as is Netanyahu. They both must feel it will help their respective causes; only time will tell. There is no love lost between Ben and Barry; that's for sure.
Time we said f-u to israel.
Cut off all money going there.
I agree 100%.
Interesting that Forbes is throwing boner under the bus:
I disagree 100%!!! Not with your disagreement with Boehner, but on your suggestion to cut off aid to Israel. I don't like Boehner and disagree with what he is doing and think it will backfire in his face but to punish our allies and friends in Israel because we disagree with one leader would be not only foolish but downright stupid. Even with the disagreements they still are our only real ally in that entire screwed up whacko region.
Bullsh!t.
The ONLY reason they are "our only real ally in that entire screwed up whacko region" is because we send them too much of our damn money!!!
They aren't our 51st state.
Their whole bully stance in the mideast is only accepted because the rest of the mideast knows that we are behind them no matter how much they f#@k things up.
ENOUGH
Have to agree that this is not a negotiation. Boehner is saying f-u to Obama as is Netanyahu. They both must feel it will help their respective causes; only time will tell. There is no love lost between Ben and Barry; that's for sure.
Time we said f-u to israel.
Cut off all money going there.
I agree 100%.
Interesting that Forbes is throwing boner under the bus:
I disagree 100%!!! Not with your disagreement with Boehner, but on your suggestion to cut off aid to Israel. I don't like Boehner and disagree with what he is doing and think it will backfire in his face but to punish our allies and friends in Israel because we disagree with one leader would be not only foolish but downright stupid. Even with the disagreements they still are our only real ally in that entire screwed up whacko region.
Bullsh!t.
The ONLY reason they are "our only real ally in that entire screwed up whacko region" is because we send them too much of our damn money!!!
They aren't our 51st state.
Their whole bully stance in the mideast is only accepted because the rest of the mideast knows that we are behind them no matter how much they f#@k things up.
ENOUGH
No they aren't our 51st state; but they are the only Democracy in the Mid-East which is why we support them economically. If you think country after country where beheadings are law will stabilize and unf**k the region that is obviously your opinion to have. But the US supports Israel for perceived US advantages in having a non-Jihad non-Monarch non-radical state existing in a hell-hole of a region
Have to agree that this is not a negotiation. Boehner is saying f-u to Obama as is Netanyahu. They both must feel it will help their respective causes; only time will tell. There is no love lost between Ben and Barry; that's for sure.
Time we said f-u to israel.
Cut off all money going there.
I agree 100%.
Interesting that Forbes is throwing boner under the bus:
I disagree 100%!!! Not with your disagreement with Boehner, but on your suggestion to cut off aid to Israel. I don't like Boehner and disagree with what he is doing and think it will backfire in his face but to punish our allies and friends in Israel because we disagree with one leader would be not only foolish but downright stupid. Even with the disagreements they still are our only real ally in that entire screwed up whacko region.
Bullsh!t.
The ONLY reason they are "our only real ally in that entire screwed up whacko region" is because we send them too much of our damn money!!!
They aren't our 51st state.
Their whole bully stance in the mideast is only accepted because the rest of the mideast knows that we are behind them no matter how much they f#@k things up.
ENOUGH
No they aren't our 51st state; but they are the only Democracy in the Mid-East which is why we support them economically. If you think country after country where beheadings are law will stabilize and unf**k the region that is obviously your opinion to have. But the US supports Israel for perceived US advantages in having a non-Jihad non-Monarch non-radical state existing in a hell-hole of a region
^^^We have a winner^^^
But the US supports Israel for perceived US advantages in having a non-Jihad non-Monarch non-radical state existing in a hell-hole of a region
What are those actual advantages? What's the ROI? Curious.
But the US supports Israel for perceived US advantages in having a non-Jihad non-Monarch non-radical state existing in a hell-hole of a region
What are those actual advantages? What's the ROI? Curious.
I don't know; but Barry and Kerry don't invite me to their talks. But with the small Jewish population in the US the gov't isn't just supporting Israel for political expediency. Most Jews vote Democrat by reflex. Obama basically said I'm going to f-u and most of my family and Jewish friends said "He doesn't mean it."
But the US supports Israel for perceived US advantages in having a non-Jihad non-Monarch non-radical state existing in a hell-hole of a region
What are those actual advantages? What's the ROI? Curious.
I don't know; but Barry and Kerry don't invite me to their talks. But with the small Jewish population in the US the gov't isn't just supporting Israel for political expediency. Most Jews vote Democrat by reflex. Obama basically said I'm going to f-u and most of my family and Jewish friends said "He doesn't mean it."
It was actually a curious, non-partisan question. I've thought a lot about US-Israeli relations over several presidencies and find myself landing all over the place. But, never mind, I guess.
It was meant as a non-partisan reply. I truly have no clue; and truly feel it is motivated by a US Policy decision rather that the "jews run the country" stance that some people take here.
Of course it is a US policy decision. As are all of our arms deals.
I'm not opposed to Israeli government policies because they are Jewish. I'm opposed because of the innocent civilians who have lost their homes and their lives.
I also oppose the policies and actions of the Hamas government. Not because they are Palestinian but because of their actions.
I oppose the actions of Terrorists and war mongers everywhere.
Have to agree that this is not a negotiation. Boehner is saying f-u to Obama as is Netanyahu. They both must feel it will help their respective causes; only time will tell. There is no love lost between Ben and Barry; that's for sure.
Time we said f-u to israel.
Cut off all money going there.
I agree 100%.
Interesting that Forbes is throwing boner under the bus:
I disagree 100%!!! Not with your disagreement with Boehner, but on your suggestion to cut off aid to Israel. I don't like Boehner and disagree with what he is doing and think it will backfire in his face but to punish our allies and friends in Israel because we disagree with one leader would be not only foolish but downright stupid. Even with the disagreements they still are our only real ally in that entire screwed up whacko region.
Bullsh!t.
The ONLY reason they are "our only real ally in that entire screwed up whacko region" is because we send them too much of our damn money!!!
They aren't our 51st state.
Their whole bully stance in the mideast is only accepted because the rest of the mideast knows that we are behind them no matter how much they f#@k things up.
ENOUGH
No they aren't our 51st state; but they are the only Democracy in the Mid-East which is why we support them economically. If you think country after country where beheadings are law will stabilize and unf**k the region that is obviously your opinion to have. But the US supports Israel for perceived US advantages in having a non-Jihad non-Monarch non-radical state existing in a hell-hole of a region
^^^We have a winner^^^
I agree with that completely although I do disagree with Boehner and Netenyahu and the way this episode has happened and been handled. Complete disrespect for the Office of the President of the United States. Boehner made a huge mistake here IMO.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/01/28/forbes-tears-boehner-apart/
On the same day as the speech Obama should give a surprise speech at the Israeli parliament 😛
On the same day as the speech Obama should give a surprise speech at the Israeli parliament 😛
I can't think of anything that would less draw the attention of the Israeli populace.
On the same day as the speech Obama should give a surprise speech at the Israeli parliament 😛
I can't think of anything that would less draw the attention of the Israeli populace.
Sacrifice a couple hundred pawns, that will sell tickets. 😉
I think this is what the Israeli political aide I mentioned in my previous post was eluding to. From the above link to the Atlantic article:
"But, unfortunately for Netanyahu, it is incumbent upon the junior partner in the Israel-U.S. relationship to maintain an even keel in the relationship. Netanyahu, grappling with a fear that Obama will go wobbly on Iran, could have tried a long time ago to create a discreet, continuous, and respectful dialogue in advance of the conclusion of negotiations, in order to try to shape the president’s thinking, and—this is important—to work with Obama on issues that interest the United States (advancing the Israeli-Palestinian peace process, for instance, by taking the initiative once in a blue moon) in order to make the American side understand that his government is interested in giving, not merely in taking.
Instead, Netanyahu chose to make a desperate-seeming end-run around the president and attempted to appeal directly to Congress to oppose a decision Obama has not yet made. In a plan concocted by Ron Dermer, who serves as Netanyahu’s ambassador to the U.S., the speaker of the House of Representatives, John Boehner, invited Netanyahu to address Congress on the dangers of a nuclear deal and the need for tougher sanctions, without first informing the White House.
The flaws in this approach are many. Obama administration officials have already felt disrespected by Netanyahu (recall his condescending, and public, Oval Office lecture to the president), and so this latest violation of protocol set their teeth on edge. Another flaw: The Obama administration is trying to create conditions so that if the negotiations do collapse, it will be the Iranians who get the blame, not the Americans. Legislating new sanctions—even delayed, triggered sanctions—would give the Iranians the excuse to quit negotiations and blame the U.S. Such a situation would not help Obama maintain the strong international sanctions regime that has stayed in place through the past year of talks. (Actually passing legislation now also seems superfluous; only the most obtuse Iranian leader would fail to realize that a failure in the negotiations process would lead to more sanctions.)
An even more obvious flaw: John Boehner is not the commander-in-chief, and does not make U.S. foreign policy. Netanyahu might find Boehner’s approach to Iran more politically and emotionally satisfying than Obama’s, but this is irrelevant. Yes, Congress can pass new sanctions against Iran, but it is the executive branch that drives U.S. Iran policy. Barack Obama will be president for two more years, and it makes absolutely no sense for an Israeli leader to side so ostentatiously with a sitting American president’s domestic political opposition."
[Edited on 1/31/2015 by Chain]
According to Israel this is all Boehner; that Netanyahu was misled
Israeli Official Suggests Boehner Misled Netanyahu
February 6, 2015By Taegan Goddard68 Comments
“A senior Israeli official suggested on Friday that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had been misled into thinking an invitation to address the U.S. Congress on Iran next month was fully supported by the Democrats,” Reuters reports.
“Netanyahu was invited by the Republican speaker of the house, John Boehner, to address Congress on March 3, an invitation Boehner originally described as bipartisan. The move angered the White House, which is upset about the event coming two weeks before Israeli elections and the fact that Netanyahu, who has a testy relationship with President Obama, is expected to be critical of U.S. policy on Iran.”
According to Israel this is all Boehner; that Netanyahu was misled
Israeli Official Suggests Boehner Misled Netanyahu
February 6, 2015By Taegan Goddard68 Comments
“A senior Israeli official suggested on Friday that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had been misled into thinking an invitation to address the U.S. Congress on Iran next month was fully supported by the Democrats,” Reuters reports.
“Netanyahu was invited by the Republican speaker of the house, John Boehner, to address Congress on March 3, an invitation Boehner originally described as bipartisan. The move angered the White House, which is upset about the event coming two weeks before Israeli elections and the fact that Netanyahu, who has a testy relationship with President Obama, is expected to be critical of U.S. policy on Iran.”
Bibi is a smart guy, [certainly smarter than boehner :P] I doubt he was misled by that drunken orange faced idiot.
Bibi is real smarter; but even tougher. I find it hard to believe he'd concoct this for political expediency. A Bibi f-u is seldom excused.
According to Israel this is all Boehner; that Netanyahu was misled
Israeli Official Suggests Boehner Misled Netanyahu
February 6, 2015By Taegan Goddard68 Comments
“A senior Israeli official suggested on Friday that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had been misled into thinking an invitation to address the U.S. Congress on Iran next month was fully supported by the Democrats,” Reuters reports.
“Netanyahu was invited by the Republican speaker of the house, John Boehner, to address Congress on March 3, an invitation Boehner originally described as bipartisan. The move angered the White House, which is upset about the event coming two weeks before Israeli elections and the fact that Netanyahu, who has a testy relationship with President Obama, is expected to be critical of U.S. policy on Iran.”
Bibi is a smart guy, [certainly smarter than boehner :P] I doubt he was misled by that drunken orange faced idiot.
Bibi is real smarter; but even tougher. I find it hard to believe he'd concoct this for political expediency. A Bibi f-u is seldom excused.
The whole thing was manufactured by the Obama adninistration to throw up a cloud over its bizarre Iran policy, criticized by both sides. Bibi was dumb enough to fall for it.
You never know with Bibi; latest is the Israeli gov't wants him to back out - but he is adamant that the US must be told of the depth of the Iran nuclear threat
Obama’s distain for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is long and well known.
As few examples would be obama’s support for Hamas on the settlements issue, his leaving Prime Minister Netanyahu waiting for over an hour for a meeting at The White House while obama ate lunch and his senior advisor stating that Netanyahu was chickenshit.
On the invite to address Congress first The White House used the excuse that it was too close to the Israeli elections for obama to meet with Netanyahu. Of course 4 senior members of obama’s election campaign are currently in Israel helping Netanyahu’s opponent.
The current excuse is that obama doesn’t have the time to meet with The PM. Of course he and Kerry do have time to soon meet with Netanyahu’s opponent in the upcoming election.
Obama has a history of meddling in other country’s elections. Prior to going to Israel in an effort to oust PM Netanyahu, his campaign team was in England helping Prime Minister David Cameron’s opponent. Obama has had a long running rocky relationship with the English PM. Obama’s lead political operative for this attempt to bring down PM Cameron was none other than David Axelrod.
