Louisville, Nashville, then the murderous spree at the birthday party in Alabama followed by that young teen’s shooting by racist KC homeowners - similar shooting in upstate NY, 20 year old woman murdered for going into the wrong driveway
all in the last few weeks
……now the rampage in the Bowdoin, Maine area of I-295
there’s no point itemizing
just that on this, the third anniversary (April 18-19) of the island-wide killing spree of Nova Scotia dentist Gabriel Wortman, we have learned all over again mass shootings/killing sprees can’t be prevented - no one is at fault & pointing fingers is a waste of time
@stephen Mass shootings can't be prevented? Then how come other civilized countries around the world don't have this issue?
Good ?, don’t know the answer, just going by past history & the failure of all previous efforts to reduce them here in the US
other countries’ constitutions may not include the right to bear arms - just surmising
just going by past history & the failure of all previous efforts to reduce them here in the US
What efforts? This is the problem, NRA lobbyists have hindered any efforts to solve the problem. In fact, gun control laws have been relaxed while incidents have increased over the past 2 decades.
@stephen Australia had issue in the past and changed the laws and it seemed to work from them.
https://www.vox.com/2015/8/27/9212725/australia-buyback
I don't see why we could not limit access to assault type weapons, have more stringent background checks, and still meet the intent of the 2nd Amendment.
If the politicians here were more concerned with the citizens welfare instead of getting reelected and keeping power we might be able to make some progress in lowering mass shootings.
JMO, but the average citizen does not need to own AR15's or similar semiauto large magazine weapons.
@stephen I don't see why we could not limit access to assault type weapons, have more stringent background checks, and still meet the intent of the 2nd Amendment.
🤙hi Bill, agree w/all the paragraphs - if the scenario in this one were plausible/possible, imo it would’ve been done, or enacted into reality long ago - stricter background checks, etc & so on, have been urged forever - but as you said, politicians have other ideas -
good info on Australia, mayb we could go about it like they did - as the chart posted by jszfunk shows, long way to go
Absolutely Bill - when high school cheerleaders are no longer safe from gun violence, that’s when the NRA or any one promoting guns needs to become irrelevant or go down the tubes
these poor kids merely got into the wrong car (Elgin TX) - 2 cheerleaders shot, one critical - doesn’t get much more foul than that
JMO, but the average citizen does not need to own AR15's or similar semiauto large magazine weapons.
this aspect of gun violence, average-joe access to large-scale military-type weaponry, needs to be closely looked at
….25 years ago is a long time but most recall one of the creepier mass shootings, & it would do all some good to use the milestone to recall the outrage of how a 15 year old could come into possession of the level of firepower he had in carrying out his attack
….next month we should look back on May 20 1998, Springfield OR, and assess if any real, tangible progress has been made in terms of unstable/loose-cannon/mad-at-the-world types having access to large-scale weaponry - the Las Vegas concert massacre involved a military-issue machine gun Legally Owned iirc - anon….
The milestone is marked annually at Virginia Tech, where they make a “never forget” healing day of it w/symposiums, candlelight vigils, church services, things like a 5K (3.2 mile) run, an honor guard standing in ceremonial sentry for 32 minutes at the campus entrance….
this occurred just recently on the 16th year of that day, one of the darkest in US history - April 16, 2007, Virginia Tech - 32 dead (33 including shooter), many more wounded
occasions of remembrance/learning from it looking ahead, imo are a good thing, a healthy thing & should be observed next month in the same constructive informational positive spirit
as has been said, keep the conversation/communication going….
A friendly teen, Emmitt Till, was murdered in the 1950s by sub-human racist Mississippi Trash in the most grotesque killing in modern history
anyone who thinks anything’s changed since then down there, talk to Rasheem Carter’s family - it’s beyond god-awful - Jim Crow attitudes have never gone away in the Deep South - it’s disgusting
elsewhere, someone in Cleveland Texas snapped & opened fire on his neighbors, killing 5 people, including an 8 year old
can someone tell me why scum who kill people should get a fair trial - what’s fair about unprovoked death instigated by marauding neanderthals - they’re no different from a pack of wild dogs
don’t expect any arrests in the Mississippi decapitation - he was a black man - he’d gullibly reported these bastards to the cops for previous harassment too
they are looking for the Cleveland Texas murderer - they know who he is & should be able to find him
instant place on Death Row for murderers - who wait their turn in GP of max-security prison
anyone got a better idea? wouldn’t this make some criminals think twice b4 pulling the trigger?
More info still to come but point is, this latest killing spree at the mall in Allen, TX points up my longheld belief that gun violence can’t be contained -
what kind of weapons he had, whether they were black market or legally owned….moot - gun-control measures have no teeth, every one ever enacted has proven that
it’s all a self-perpetuating vicious cycle - imo there’s a ‘copycat’ aspect that plays into the ongoing carnage/culture of mass shootings
That was north Texas (Allen)
in south Texas - 7 killed by car in Brownsville - driver hospitalized under 24-hour watch
They’ve all continued along, Baltimore, Wash DC, Philadelphia, SF in recent days & weeks
most recent one, 4 dead 7 wounded at July 4 block party, Shreveport LA
….the shooting in Florida yesterday, July 4, just shows how low people can go -
a 7 year old boy lies dead, shot in the head by a stray bullet from out of a crowd of nearby adults -
who were arguing over jet skis
- the boy was getting ready to go fishing w/his grandfather - no one has been arrested
so, in continuing the conversation, once again the terrible, murderous ongoing unsolvable toll of violence & death by guns
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glad it’s Joe not Donald in the WH
”cocaine found in White House,” while duly reported, is getting low-keyed
all honest people know it would’ve been a 180 the other way if the same exact thing had happened in Trump’s tenure
”Pelosi, Democrats Empanel Commision, Demand Trump’s Resignation, Incarceration In WH Drug Bust” would’ve been just the beginning of it
but they like Joe (so do I), so none of this happens - mudslinging on Joe wouldn’t pay off - not like it did maligning/undermining the Trump Administration 24/7 - & right up to today
That it is Rusty - and, what’s worse, a new-fangled “binary trigger” was used in the July 14 shooting in Fargo, ND -
a binary trigger allows 2 shots to be fired at the same time, not 1, making it almost an automatic weapon - if I understood article right
incredible the disaster that was avoided in ND
article said the shooter “shot from his vehicle loaded with guns, a homemade grenade, gasoline canisters, propane tanks containing improvised explosives, and more than 1,800 rounds of ammunition,” killing a policeman, wounding 2 others & a civilian b4 being killed himself
the fact that the vehicle didn’t blow sky high in the exchange of gunfire, is a miracle
but again, a “binary trigger” -
mark one for the itchy-trigger finger crowd, I guess😣
five people found shot to death in home in SC
a nutcase snapped & went on a killing spree in the Lewiston/Auburn region in Maine, at least 18 dead
another person found out where the judge who presided over his divorce trial lived, tracked him to his home & murdered him in his driveway
then you have the under the radar ones, such as 2 young men found dead off the side of the road in northern Vermont - both shotgun slugs to the head - likely a drug deal gone bad
….but all current, all ongoing, graph #s constantly rising
…..the stabbing death of that synagogue president in Detroit just shows how grotesque people are - this woman had only kindness about her - no crime could be more foul - the dirtbag is still at large
….should the right to due process include types like that? hardened criminals bent on murder? Why in hell should they get any breaks?
this is where we need to upgrade laws, since nothing else has worked
tit for tat baby - you commit murder, you stab someone to death, you forfeit your right to due process of law, & when unequivocally ID’d, you pay for taking a life w/your own, Immediately, no trial
….or with prompt transfer to the lions den, ie, GP of a max-security prison W/No Trial - I refer here to the Dylan Roofs, the Catrina Costellos, types like the LV concert shooter, the NS dentist…scum like that which took the life of Samantha Woll
realize it won’t happen, & that gun violence will continue unchecked
@stephen So, the usuals are coming up with the typical mental health comments regarding the Maine shooter. One does have to wonder exactly how many voiced concerns/complaints that it takes to have arms taken away from someone with noticed and reported mental health concerns. Evidently, this guy was reported to his superiors and to law enforcement before this rampage took place.
Others are going to defend the 2nd Amendment - which has been bent and twisted so far out of its original context. To these types I ask, "do you think that ANYBODY should be allowed to own firearms?" ANYBODY, I asked.
The background checks and waiting periods are not working. The screen door on the submarine is failing.
@stephen So, the usuals are coming up with the typical mental health comments regarding the Maine shooter. One does have to wonder exactly how many voiced concerns/complaints that it takes to have arms taken away from someone with noticed and reported mental health concerns. Evidently, this guy was reported to his superiors and to law enforcement before this rampage took place.
Others are going to defend the 2nd Amendment - which has been bent and twisted so far out of its original context. To these types I ask, "do you think that ANYBODY should be allowed to own firearms?" ANYBODY, I asked.
The background checks and waiting periods are not working. The screen door on the submarine is failing.
agree fully (the thumbs up icon at lower left w/name in orange is disabled at the moment), good post - the graphic above is blurry & illegible, that might have something to do with it
it’s jurisprudence - SORta connected to the topic
but one sometimes sees crime fallout in the sports world
it was ghastly enough that hockey player’s death after a skate blade cut his throat during a pro game in Europe
now a charge of manslaughter has been filed in his death - it’s all a sad perplexing first in every respect
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🚴♀️🔫 the cyclist was sentenced to 90 years for the murder of another pro cyclist in a romantic dispute
seeing seemingly-normal people snap that bad….unreal - a sick streak apparently lurks in everyone -
the girl she killed was from Vermont - where cycling is adored - to have something like this associated with riding is just a shame
have no idea how the hockey manslaughter charge came about, details still vague
It’s a macabre, or morbid, topic, so, by way of an indirect return to it, the article about the fatal shooting ystrdy at an NH psychiatric hospital
the end of the article reads “Friday’s shooting was the latest act of violence at a U.S. hospital. Medical centers nationwide have struggled to adapt to the growing threats, which have helped make health care one of the nation’s most violent fields”
yes, like youth sports & religion, now health care - Health Care!! - is becoming a flashpoint/lightning rod for anger & gun violence - what more screwheaded irony is there than that
It’s off topic, but when you pour gasoline around the former home of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. - now a national historic site -
….that’s as criminal imo as shooting someone & deserves to be prosecuted to the fullest - unsure if she has a police record, or how much gas she emptied b4 she was stopped
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as we think of John on this Dec. 9, it recurs how just keeping Chapman in that joint in Hudson NY really isn’t enough
to make the punishment fit the crime, his sentence should’ve included periodic stints in solitary w/water & a crust of bread - to remind him of the crime he committed
said stints could never ease the evil of what he did
RIP John
@stephen I think Chapman should be sat down every day and have a continuum of people explain to him over and over again of the beautiful and wonderful being that he robbed the rest of the world of. Then they should should tie his hands behind his back, strap some tight headphones onto his ears and blast Yoko's Greatest Hits until his ears bleed.
👊You Said It Rusty, on both counts!🎼😆
