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Muleman1994
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And the saga continues. At some point you might think that even the Democrats would get pissed because Obama and his administration lied to them:

Susan Rice, Obama colleagues take heat for past claims on Syria chemical weapons purge
By Barnini Chakraborty - Published April 07, 2017 - FoxNews.com

Susan Rice and other former Obama administration officials are taking heat for past claims that their 2013 Syria agreement successfully led to the Assad regime purging its entire chemical weapons stockpile -- in the wake of this week's alleged sarin gas attack.

On Thursday, President Trump launched a targeted strike at a Syrian airfield in response to what he called a barbaric chemical attack on innocent civilians at the hand of Syrian President Bashar Assad.

“There can be no dispute that Syria used banned chemical weapons, violated its obligations under the Chemical Weapons Convention and ignored the urging of the U.N. Security Council,” Trump said.

Video footage from the chemical attack scene immediately raised credibility problems for claims made by members of the Obama administration that the prior agreement had rid the war-torn country of chemical agents.

During an interview this past January with National Public Radio, former National Security Adviser Rice touted the “success” in Syria, in striking a deal with Russia's help that resulted in the prior administration dropping the threat of military action.

“We were able to find a solution that didn’t necessitate the use of force that actually removed the chemical weapons that were known from Syria, in a way that the use of force would never have accomplished,” she boasted. “We were able to get the Syrian government to voluntarily and verifiably give up its chemical weapons stockpile.”

Rice has come under fire for making misleading comments in the past. Most recently, she grabbed headlines for allegedly being tied to allegations of improper surveillance of the Trump team prior to his inauguration.

Rice isn’t the only Obama-era official who made self-congratulatory statements about removing chemical weapons from Syria.

In July 2014, then-Secretary of State John Kerry went on NBC’s “Meet the Press” to discuss the September 2013 deal that resulted in Russia agreeing to help confiscate and then destroy Syria’s stockpile.

“We struck a deal where we got 100 percent of the chemical weapons out,” Kerry claimed.
At the time, the fact-checking website PolitiFact found Kerry’s comments to be “mostly true.”

However, given new evidence that Assad had recently used chemical weapons against his own people, PolitiFact was forced to revisit and revise its assessment of Kerry’s claims.

“We don’t know key details about the reported chemical attack in Syria on April 4, 2017, but it raises two clear possibilities: Either Syria never fulling complied with its 2013 promise to reveal all of its chemical weapons; or it did, but then converted otherwise non-lethal chemicals to military uses.

“One way or another, subsequent events have proved Kerry wrong,” the site ruled.

In August 2016, a U.N. report revealed that Assad had used chlorine gas against civilians on two separate occasions since the 2013 deal – a clear violation of the Chemical Weapons Convention. Despite that report, members of the Obama administration continued to claim they had been successful in disarming Assad’s chemical weapons arsenal.

They routinely touted the diplomatic nature of the joint U.S.-and-Russia brokered deal.

Obama issued his infamous “red line” warning to Syria’s leader in 2012 not to use chemical weapons. In 2013, when reports surfaced that Assad used sarin gas to kill his people, the deal to remove chemical weapons was intended to avert military action.

The president himself on Aug. 18. 2014 said that “the most lethal declared chemical weapons possessed by the Syrian regime were destroyed by dedicated U.S. civilian and military professionals” and that it had been done “several weeks ahead of schedule.”

On Jan. 6, 2015, then-White House Press Secretary John Earnest praised Russia for its role in destroying the chemical weapons stockpile of the Assad regime.

“That was an important step, because it reduced, or essentially eliminated, the proliferation risk from that declared chemical weapons stockpile, that we could essentially destroy those chemical weapons and ensure that terrorists would not be able to get their hands on them and use them in other places.”

Five months later on June 17, 2015, Earnest said that the “declared chemical weapons stockpile that Assad previously denied existed has now been acknowledged, rounded up, removed from the country and destroyed precisely because of the work of this administration and our successful efforts to work with the Russians to accomplish that goal.”

On Thursday night, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson slammed Russia for failing to do its part in preventing the Syrian government from using chemical weapons, despite the 2013 agreement to remove weapons from the country.

“Either Russia has been complicit or Russia has been simply incompetent,” Tillerson said.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/07/susan-rice-obama-colleagues-take-heat-for-past-claims-on-syria-chemical-weapons-purge.html


 
Posted : April 7, 2017 3:11 pm
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i think its a false flag bombing to send a message to china about north korea......help me gina

Bannon also has perfect opportunity to defect and return to Breitbart. Build a stronger following by criticizing Trump.

[Edited on 4/8/2017 by LeglizHemp]


 
Posted : April 7, 2017 4:07 pm
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from the fox news article two posts up:

In July 2014, then-Secretary of State John Kerry went on NBC’s “Meet the Press” to discuss the September 2013 deal that resulted in Russia agreeing to help confiscate and then destroy Syria’s stockpile.

“We struck a deal where we got 100 percent of the chemical weapons out,” Kerry claimed.
At the time, the fact-checking website PolitiFact found Kerry’s comments to be “mostly true.”

However, given new evidence that Assad had recently used chemical weapons against his own people, PolitiFact was forced to revisit and revise its assessment of Kerry’s claims.

“We don’t know key details about the reported chemical attack in Syria on April 4, 2017, but it raises two clear possibilities: Either Syria never fulling complied with its 2013 promise to reveal all of its chemical weapons; or it did, but then converted otherwise non-lethal chemicals to military uses.

“One way or another, subsequent events have proved Kerry wrong,” the site ruled.

In August 2016, a U.N. report revealed that Assad had used chlorine gas against civilians on two separate occasions since the 2013 deal – a clear violation of the Chemical Weapons Convention. Despite that report, members of the Obama administration continued to claim they had been successful in disarming Assad’s chemical weapons arsenal.

They routinely touted the diplomatic nature of the joint U.S.-and-Russia brokered deal.

Obama issued his infamous “red line” warning to Syria’s leader in 2012 not to use chemical weapons. In 2013, when reports surfaced that Assad used sarin gas to kill his people, the deal to remove chemical weapons was intended to avert military action.

The president himself on Aug. 18. 2014 said that “the most lethal declared chemical weapons possessed by the Syrian regime were destroyed by dedicated U.S. civilian and military professionals” and that it had been done “several weeks ahead of schedule.”

On Jan. 6, 2015, then-White House Press Secretary John Earnest praised Russia for its role in destroying the chemical weapons stockpile of the Assad regime.

“That was an important step, because it reduced, or essentially eliminated, the proliferation risk from that declared chemical weapons stockpile, that we could essentially destroy those chemical weapons and ensure that terrorists would not be able to get their hands on them and use them in other places.”

Five months later on June 17, 2015, Earnest said that the “declared chemical weapons stockpile that Assad previously denied existed has now been acknowledged, rounded up, removed from the country and destroyed precisely because of the work of this administration and our successful efforts to work with the Russians to accomplish that goal.”

Noting the bolded part, rarely does anybody mention the chemical weapons usage that happened in 2014 and 2015. That was after the so-called "deal" to destroy or remove them and it was before the chemical weapon attack this week.

From the BBC

However, investigations by the UN and international chemical weapons watchdog have found that Syrian government forces carried out three chemical weapons attacks in 2014 and 2015.

The reports said that Syrian air force helicopters had dropped chlorine gas on rebel-held areas, twice in March 2015 and once in April 2014.

The use of chlorine as a weapon is prohibited under the 1997 Chemical Weapons Convention.

Islamic State (IS) militants had also used sulphur-mustard gas in an attack, the watchdog found.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-39116854


 
Posted : April 8, 2017 9:41 pm
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quote:

However, investigations by the UN and international chemical weapons watchdog have found that Syrian government forces carried out three chemical weapons attacks in 2014 and 2015.

The reports said that Syrian air force helicopters had dropped chlorine gas on rebel-held areas, twice in March 2015 and once in April 2014.

The use of chlorine as a weapon is prohibited under the 1997 Chemical Weapons Convention.

Islamic State (IS) militants had also used sulphur-mustard gas in an attack, the watchdog found.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-39116854
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Obama Rice and Kerry all lied and hundreds of thousands of people were massacred by Assad using chemical weapons.

The left doesn't want to talk about the reasons and the truth.

Obama failed and President Trump took decisive action.


 
Posted : April 9, 2017 7:31 am
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quote:

However, investigations by the UN and international chemical weapons watchdog have found that Syrian government forces carried out three chemical weapons attacks in 2014 and 2015.

The reports said that Syrian air force helicopters had dropped chlorine gas on rebel-held areas, twice in March 2015 and once in April 2014.

The use of chlorine as a weapon is prohibited under the 1997 Chemical Weapons Convention.

Islamic State (IS) militants had also used sulphur-mustard gas in an attack, the watchdog found.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-39116854
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Obama Rice and Kerry all lied and hundreds of thousands of people were massacred by Assad using chemical weapons.

The left doesn't want to talk about the reasons and the truth.

Obama failed and President Trump took decisive action.

Do you have a credible source for that or is this just more fake news?


 
Posted : April 9, 2017 7:34 am
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quote:

However, investigations by the UN and international chemical weapons watchdog have found that Syrian government forces carried out three chemical weapons attacks in 2014 and 2015.

The reports said that Syrian air force helicopters had dropped chlorine gas on rebel-held areas, twice in March 2015 and once in April 2014.

The use of chlorine as a weapon is prohibited under the 1997 Chemical Weapons Convention.

Islamic State (IS) militants had also used sulphur-mustard gas in an attack, the watchdog found.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-39116854
________________________________________________________________________________

Obama Rice and Kerry all lied and hundreds of thousands of people were massacred by Assad using chemical weapons.

The left doesn't want to talk about the reasons and the truth.

Obama failed and President Trump took decisive action.

Do you have a credible source for that or is this just more fake news?

Mule likes to demand links but does not like to produce them. Mule the Fake News Man has less credibility around here than Gina and lies more than Trump does, two things I didn't think we're possible.


 
Posted : April 9, 2017 10:00 am
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quote:

However, investigations by the UN and international chemical weapons watchdog have found that Syrian government forces carried out three chemical weapons attacks in 2014 and 2015.

The reports said that Syrian air force helicopters had dropped chlorine gas on rebel-held areas, twice in March 2015 and once in April 2014.

The use of chlorine as a weapon is prohibited under the 1997 Chemical Weapons Convention.

Islamic State (IS) militants had also used sulphur-mustard gas in an attack, the watchdog found.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-39116854
________________________________________________________________________________

Obama Rice and Kerry all lied and hundreds of thousands of people were massacred by Assad using chemical weapons.

The left doesn't want to talk about the reasons and the truth.

Obama failed and President Trump took decisive action.

Do you have a credible source for that or is this just more fake news?

Mule likes to demand links but does not like to produce them. Mule the Fake News Man has less credibility around here than Gina and lies more than Trump does, two things I didn't think we're possible.

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Still upset the left can't win an election and no longer have any power at the federal level or the majority of states? Apparently you cannot emotionally or mentally handle it.

I did not demand anything. I simply asked if you had any sources to back up your lie.

Not one creditable news source is reporting that Assad launched the bombing attack from the airfield President Trump ordered destroyed.

While there are reports that Assad did bomb the city which last week he used chemical weapons on the attack you reference used standard munitions and was not from the airfield President Trump took care of.

Only corrupt liberal opinion sites claim that attack came from the destroyed airfield and you bought it. Of course those are the same sites that claimed Hillary would win the election

That is why I ask you if you had any creditable source which you go not have. You got played.

Obviously Assad heard President Trump's message loud and clear. A much different message than Obama sent which both Assad and Putin knew Obama hadn't the balls to act on.

I do like Gen. McMaster's question today:
If the Russians had advisors at the airfield that Assad used to send chemical weapons from how could they not know Assad still had chemical weapons which the Russians had previously stated were no longer in Syria?

Russia, Putin, Obama, Rice and Kerry all lied to the world and the left bought it.
How many people have to die before the left cares?


 
Posted : April 9, 2017 5:57 pm
Muleman1994
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The Washington Post gives 4 Pinocchios to Susan Rice for lying about Syrian Chemical Weapons.

Susan Rice’s claim that Obama got Syria to ‘verifiably give up its chemical weapons stockpile’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/04/10/susan-rices-claim-that-obama-got-syria-to-verifiably-give-up-its-chemical-weapons-stockpile/?utm_term=.f456fcf684cb&wpisrc ="nl_headlines&wpmm=1"

When WAPO accurately reports the lying of the obama administration it is a new day in America. This report was not printed though and can only be found online.


 
Posted : April 10, 2017 8:21 am
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Obama officials applaud President Trump:

Ex-Obama officials show true colors on Syria after strikes
Published April 10, 2017 - FoxNews.com

President Trump’s missile strikes on the Assad regime have re-opened the divide among former Obama administration officials over their much-critiqued Syria policy.

While some Barack Obama allies criticized Trump and defended the former administration's diplomatic approach, others could hardly contain their relief that the U.S. had taken military action in response to chemical weapons use.

“Donald Trump has done the right thing on Syria. Finally!! After years of useless handwringing in the face of hideous atrocities,” tweeted Anne-Marie Slaughter, a former policy planner in Obama’s State Department.

Slaughter lauded Trump for doing what some say Obama should have done years ago: punish Syrian President Bashar Assad for using chemical weapons on civilians.

Obama vowed in 2012 that such actions would cross a “red line.” But he failed to enforce the promise a year later when hundreds of Syrians were killed by sarin gas and instead brokered a multi-nation deal in which Assad pledged to remove his chemical-weapons stockpile.

Kerry, however, was notably frustrated about such diplomatic efforts having no military backbone, even as he voiced public support for the deal and claimed -- erroneously, it turned out -- that it removed "100 percent of the chemical weapons."

“I think you’re looking at three people, four people in the administration who have all argued for use of force, and I lost the argument,” Kerry told a group of Syrians last year at a United Nations meeting, according to an audiotape obtained by The New York Times.

In the wake of the Trump missile strikes, a source close to Kerry said he was “absolutely supportive” of the decision and “gratified to see that it happened quickly,” according to Politico.

Another former Obama official was quoted in the same article saying, "Our administration never would have gotten this done in 48 hours. ... It’s a complete indictment of Obama."

Kerry has made no public statements since Navy warships on Thursday fired dozens of missiles into a Syrian airbase from which Assad apparently launched his chemical attack on civilians earlier in the week, killing 87.

Susan Rice, an Obama national security adviser, earlier this year lauded the administration’s efforts to get Assad to “verifiably” surrender the stockpile without the threat of force -- telling NPR that the move was consistent with Obama’s desire “not to intervene in the civil war.”

She also has not publicly commented on the missile strike.

However, Ben Rhodes, a former deputy national security adviser for Obama, has posted numerous tweets criticizing Trump, including one that suggested the president’s motive was to “generate … positive” press.

“Strikes could not have ended the violence in Syria or removed all of the (chemical weapons) which was destroyed through diplomacy,” Rhodes said in one post.

He also defended the administration's decisions, albeit cryptically, in response to The Wall Street Journal's Bret Stephens, who wrote: “You had the chance to stop genocide, chaos, a refugee crisis, Russia's intervention, @brhodes. You did nothing. Try shame instead of snark.”

“I respect your passion,” Rhodes responded. “But giving any US Administration agency for all the forces at work in Syria only makes finding solutions harder.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/10/ex-obama-officials-show-true-colors-on-syria-after-strikes.html


 
Posted : April 10, 2017 7:16 pm
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