Ever heard of people voting third party, writing a candidate in, not voting at all, etc.? Like I said...believe what you want. If you childishly must insist on believing something that isn't true despite my stating otherwise multiple times...so be it....nothing I can do about it to convince you. And it won't be the first time I've been accused of lying on this forum...and probably not the last. Seems to be a common theme here and SOP for dealing with folks who have a different point of view. Anyone who deviates from liberal dogma...well, we're just a bunch of liars and trolls who only come here to argue.
I don't really get it though. What would I even gain by lying? And if you want to attack me, then attack me on my stated positions about specific issues....let's have a big boy conversation (if you are up to it) instead of you just obsessing over who I voted for?
Calling people trolls...very original...must be some of that brilliant "freethinking creativity" I've been hearing about.
And I see you've also joined with BoyntonBrother in the alloak nonsense. Freethinking creativity at its best. Maybe you guys should form a band...
Ever heard of people voting third party
Why this just can not be!...You must be one or the other!.....Either you are red or blue, you absolutely can not be anything else, no matter your beliefs!
Ever heard of people voting third party
Why this just can not be!...You must be one or the other!.....Either you are red or blue, you absolutely can not be anything else, no matter your beliefs!
haha...yep...but only in the narrow minded little world of the WP. In the real world, there is a much broader political spectrum...and people who actually enjoy engaging in real debate rather than simply calling people trolls.
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In claiming to be above it all, you become the problem. Whatever Trump does is on the head of his supporters and those who voted third party.
I become “the problem”? What “problem” would that be?
And I love the “a vote for a third party (or a non-vote) is a vote for Trump” argument…that’s so ridiculous. I hear that in every election. Sorry…don’t buy that argument…it holds no water.
I'm glad Redfish is hear to pick up where alloak left off.
If you didn't vote against him you voted for him.
Hahaha!.....The cry of the vanquished
In claiming to be above it all, you become the problem. Whatever Trump does is on the head of his supporters and those who voted third party.
So let me see if I understand this argument, participating in the process is worse than staying home?
Horsesh*t.
It's ok to riot because Trump will pay their legal bills.
In claiming to be above it all, you become the problem. Whatever Trump does is on the head of his supporters and those who voted third party.
So let me see if I understand this argument, participating in the process is worse than staying home?
Horsesh*t.
That isn't what I said. So, no, you don't understand this argument.
In claiming to be above it all, you become the problem. Whatever Trump does is on the head of his supporters and those who voted third party.
So let me see if I understand this argument, participating in the process is worse than staying home?
Horsesh*t.
That isn't what I said. So, no, you don't understand this argument.
I stand corrected and please forgive me for not understanding that there is only one way to view the process.....your way.
In claiming to be above it all, you become the problem. Whatever Trump does is on the head of his supporters and those who voted third party.
So let me see if I understand this argument, participating in the process is worse than staying home?
Horsesh*t.
That isn't what I said. So, no, you don't understand this argument.
I stand corrected and please forgive me for not understanding that there is only one way to view the process.....your way.
That isn't what I said either. I guess you are having a difficult time with this. Sorry.
you got what you wanted, a one party system.
Me personally?..... I guess you might say my wish was granted; I hoped with all my heart that Hillary would find employment anywhere but the Oval office.
In claiming to be above it all, you become the problem. Whatever Trump does is on the head of his supporters and those who voted third party.
So let me see if I understand this argument, participating in the process is worse than staying home?
Horsesh*t.
That isn't what I said. So, no, you don't understand this argument.
I stand corrected and please forgive me for not understanding that there is only one way to view the process.....your way.
That isn't what I said either. I guess you are having a difficult time with this. Sorry.
No need to be sorry, I will sleep just fine.
you got what you wanted, a one party system.
Me personally?..... I guess you might say my wish was granted; I hoped with all my heart that Hillary would find employment anywhere but the Oval office.
As I said, you stand for nothing, you just like to oppose everyone.
you got what you wanted, a one party system.
Me personally?..... I guess you might say my wish was granted; I hoped with all my heart that Hillary would find employment anywhere but the Oval office.
As I said, you stand for nothing, you just like to oppose everyone.
No, not actually and not everyone, but you and I seem to differ quite a bit. But hey, I am far from perfect.
you got what you wanted, a one party system.
Me personally?..... I guess you might say my wish was granted; I hoped with all my heart that Hillary would find employment anywhere but the Oval office.
As I said, you stand for nothing, you just like to oppose everyone.
God has spoken. The audacity I must posses for seeing things differently than you.
Yawn
You claim to be pro-choice but hated the candidate that would hold the line on womens' rights, and other than that you haven't said much except deny you love Trump, even though you never disagreed with your trumplover pals here on one single thing.
First and foremost, I have to zero to explain to anyone on this site. I participated in the process by voting for the Libertarian candidate, who believes Government should have no say in a woman's decision. Spot on. And again, I will continue to celebrate the fact that Mrs. Clinton lost, I offer no apologies for this view.
I always hated politics and politicians, never been a democrat or republican - but gritted my teeth and VOTED AGAINST TRUMP, because of key issues like choice.
Fair enough. I believe if you truly believe in change, you vote your conscience. Be true to your principles and care not what others think. Enjoy the day.
This just was not the time to indulge in third party vanity.
Worked for me, I voted for the person I felt best represented most of my political views, I will always do that, at all levels of Government.
I respect that man. This just was not the time to indulge in third party vanity. Trump was THE third party, stealth candidate in Republican disguise. It's done anyway. Smoke clearing off the field and we have to reconstruct. Who knows maybe the two party system is collapsing and Libertarians will have a chance next go round.
Doubtful that a Libertarian ever gets elected. One of two things would have to occur - 1) an awakening of the electorate rallying behind a true Libertarian to truly drain the swamp; not campaigning on it then appointing billionaires to rule the swamp; no easy feat to achieve and 2) massive rollbacks on funding for campaigns. Most Libertarians can never find enough $$$$ to compete with the 2 major parties. The SCOTUS' Citizens United decision certainly doesn't help a Libertarian candidate.
Worked for me, I voted for the person I felt best represented most of my political views, I will always do that, at all levels of Government.
What worked for you exactly?
Worked for me, I voted for the person I felt best represented most of my political views, I will always do that, at all levels of Government.
What worked for you exactly?
He has said that he just wanted to keep Hillary Clinton out of the White House. By that reasoning, he preferred Trump. So, in effect, he voted for and got Trump as his president.
Worked for me, I voted for the person I felt best represented most of my political views, I will always do that, at all levels of Government.
What worked for you exactly?
He has said that he just wanted to keep Hillary Clinton out of the White House.
I seriously doubt that my vote kept HC "Out of the White House"...no matter how much I dislike her
By that reasoning, he preferred Trump. So, in effect, he voted for and got Trump as his president.
Absolutely the viewpoint of someone who did not get the results in the Election they desired. And I've news for you, like it or not he is your President as well
And if I had not voted at all?
It just comes down to who you dislike more. And you dislike Clinton more than Trump, which is fine. At the end of the day, you take the position that profanity, urging violence in exchange for money, and mocking and insulting opponents, this un-American travel ban, matters less than Hillary's corruption charges.
This is terribly weak and transparent. Its based on the idea that Hillary is some fringe extreme corrupt politician on a level we haven't seen before, but in reality she is no different from any other president or senator we've had for the past several decades. They are all part of the game, selling policies to an audience. To suggest Hillary is morally worse than the others is just foolish and silly. One should be wise enough to see that it's just a game of personal preference.
There was not a single vote for Trump or an independent cast that was truly about an anti-establishment message against "Hillary". Those votes were cast because they support the positions of the candidate. So BIGV, you appear to be contradicting yourself. Either you voted for the independent because he reflected your political views, or you voted for him to keep Hillary out. Which is it?
Theo, I spent 9 years working in the media. Yes, the 24 hour cable networks are garbage.
By saying "Obama did it", are you saying that you now support Obama on that and he made the right decision? I find it strange that conservatives are now using Obama as a benchmark for what's right and successful with Trump. Plus, I don't think Obama detained and deported families arriving in United States who had valid visas and green cards.
if you frown upon the violence, why vote for a guy who urged it in exchange for money? If we despise those types of actions from the left, then why would we elect that same type of behavior?
During a campaign speech he suggested that his supporters punch a heckler, and that he'd pay their legal bills.
This is terribly weak and transparent.
No. Once again, I just appear to have the nerve to disagree with your views
So BIGV, you appear to be contradicting yourself. Either you voted for the independent because he reflected your political views, or you voted for him to keep Hillary out. Which is it?
No. Just killed two birds with the same stone. I voted my conscience and for the Candidate and the platform I felt was closest to my belief system and in doing so, I voted to keep Hillary out.. I participated in the process as well.
if you frown upon the violence
You mean like the police failed to do in Berkeley?
