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"You Don't Love Me" Super Session

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porkchopbob
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I went down a rabbit hole and stumbled upon this Stills/Bloomfield/Kooper version of "You Don't Love Me" from their Super Session album. Very different take on the song.

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Posted : January 19, 2025 4:52 pm
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I had a friend years ago who had the Super Sessions album but I don't recall noticing You Don't Love Me on it. 

Here is the Willie Cobbs version. Willie wrote it but it sounds as if the lable faded it out before they got to the end. 

 
Posted : January 19, 2025 5:17 pm
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Bomb - Jr Wells’ version is cool too - yeah that Supersessions version was always like, wow - just like the Brothers giving it madmax love on Fmore East - to my ears, nothing can top the original🎶🎸🎼 - they’re all equally good - Donovan’s Season of the Witch also gets covered out-there on Super Sessions

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Posted : January 19, 2025 8:09 pm
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I always liked this Super Session version of another ABB related tune:

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Posted : January 23, 2025 12:25 pm
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It sounds pretty bad and VERY dated to me TBH.. a reminder of how few could pull off what the ABB did.. updating the blues in a manner that sounded just as legit, and has aged just as well.

 
Posted : January 24, 2025 1:52 pm
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@alpaul

Agree, I'm not a fan either. I always find it interesting comparing different arrangements of the same song - why does one work and one go so wrong? But there's a reason no one was humming the tune until the Allmans made it cook.

I was revisiting Mike Bloomfield with fresh ears after the Chalomet Dylan movie put a fresh spot light on him. I have to say I am still not a fan.

I see the mid-60s period of young white kids learning how to play the blues as a necessary step in the evolution towards bands like the Allman Brothers. But in the end very little of it is more than a curio when you have pros with experience Albert and BB King, et al, releasing the same songs performed infinitely better during the same period. There's such a gulf between the Butterfield/Bloomfield/Yardbirds era stuff and what Duane and Peter Green were doing just 4-5 years later. They learned to crawl so Duane could sprint...

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Posted : January 24, 2025 2:57 pm
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I think Bloomfield was a genius and nailed the original sound so well.. then just stagnated. Drugs are a terrible thing.

 
Posted : January 24, 2025 2:58 pm
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Fair enough. Definite a very talented guitarist and beloved by his musical contemporaries - who am I to argue with Dylan? Just not my jam. Always seemed very repetitive to me. Maybe I've just heard too many amateur blooz jams where those licks have become cliche, like a 2nd generation photocopy of the originals.

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Posted : January 24, 2025 3:52 pm
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Of course it sounds dated.  Every piece of music ever made eventually sounds dated.  Bach sounds dated.  Beethoven sounds dated.  Life at Filmore East sounds dated -ALL in good ways.  Defending the Super Sessions versions - on the two ABB related songs in this thread, Kooper and Bloomfield at least put a new and (semi) original spin on a couple of blues standards.  As much as I love Duane, Dickey and the Allman Brother's Band - their versions of these songs are not very far removed from what Elmore James played - also in a VERY good way.   "Dated" ain't a bad thing.  There's even a radio format called Classic Rock which plays the songs that I was listening to in the late 60's and early 70's as a teenager.  Opinions and tastes vary - also in a good way.

 
Posted : January 25, 2025 8:56 am
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I saw Bloomfield in the 1960's and thought he was a fine guitarist. But Porkchopbob is right. When you saw Albert, BB and Freddie King it was noticeably more natural and better and with a band that could swing. 

It wasn't until to please a friend and I went with him to see the Allman Brothers in 1970 that I saw the light and heard the angels. 

I wish the fedility of the Stoneybrook show was as good as Fillmore East and Eat A Peach as it's a jumping show. If you haven't heard it, this is a kinda loose but hot version of One Way Out. Notice Dickey does his "Chuck Berry" lick at the end of his solo. 

 
Posted : January 25, 2025 8:57 am
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Of course it sounds dated. 

I think when people say something sounds dated it means it hasn't aged well.

Like keytar on "Southbound" musicians can experiment with the tools of the moment and it might not sound good 10 years later, but the song itself is still good. That's how I interpret it.

Now, I'm not saying Mike Bloomfield is a keytar - (which itself isn't a bad thing - Herbie Hancock played it on "Chameleon" at Carnegie Hall when I saw him and it was amazing) but Bloomfield's re-arrangement of "You Don't Love Me" is a big swing that missed the ball. For a guy who definitely learned how to play, at least he was experimenting with something new.

 

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Posted : January 25, 2025 3:02 pm
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@porkchopbob Synthesizers in general (after the onset of Prog - ELP, Yes et al) don't really do anything for me.  But like slide guitar, stomp boxes etc.  they're basically salt and pepper to music.  Anything can get over done.

"Not aging well" ... I get that, but that's also in the ears of the beholder.  You'd need a Way Back Machine (remember Sherman and Peabody?) to place yourself in the exact moment where something worked or not.  This whole discussion reminds me of another ABB related song performed by a very young Taj Mahal and Ry Cooder (Rising Sons).  This one is freakin' danceable!

 
Posted : January 25, 2025 4:10 pm
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@rusty Ha, I always liked that version, it could be any song.

I totally hear ya, music is all subjective, right? ABB fans come from so many different directions so opinions and tastes are so varied. But no one is ever really wrong.

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Posted : January 25, 2025 5:05 pm
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