I'm ordering it and excited.
(and hoping for a Best of 1998 and Best of 1979 as the next two releases.......plus 3/21/05 Beacon)
I'm ordering it and excited.
(and hoping for a Best of 1998 and Best of 1979 as the next two releases.......plus 3/21/05 Beacon)
Then there's the Warehouse show, plus existing video...Who says there's not enough work for an archivist?
I'm ordering it and excited.
(and hoping for a Best of 1998 and Best of 1979 as the next two releases.......plus 3/21/05 Beacon)
Then there's the Warehouse show, plus existing video...Who says there's not enough work for an archivist?
Butch Trucks (RIP) stated in an interview with Rolling Stone that they have the Warehouse shows and he was hoping they would release them someday. They played the Warehouse 9 times with Duane so that would be an epic box set if they really do have them and ever released them.
Rolling Stone: "Are there other vintage shows that you would like to see released?
Trucks: There are some nights we did at the Warehouse in New Orleans that I’d give anything to have out. And we have ’em. Also pretty much anything from the Fillmores [East and West]. But definitely the Warehouse — every time we played there, it was magic.
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I must be missing something. This article is dated 2016. They already released those five albums, no?
Everything in Moderation. Including Moderation.
I must be missing something. This article is dated 2016. They already released those five albums, no?
I think it is Fricke that is confused and not you Lee. Later in the article, he asks Butch why it took so long to release the A&R show and Trucks mentions they have been releasing the archive shows for several years but stopped for some reason.
Fricke: Several important live albums have been released from the Allmans’ archive in recent years. How did the A&R Studios broadcast escape scrutiny until now?
Trucks: We have so many recordings of unreleased shows that absolutely smoke. We were putting out two recordings a year for awhile, old stuff with Duane and Berry; one with just the five of us before [pianist] Chuck Leavell joined the band [Macon City Auditorium; Macon, Georgia; February 11th, 1972]; and with Chuck and [bassist] Lamar Williams [Nassau Coliseum; Long Island, New York; May 1st, 1973]. For some reason, we stopped putting them out.
There is an excellent article in an old Hittin the Note magazine about the American University release where someone from the Brothers camp mentions they have a number of Duane era tapes from the same period of time so maybe we will see more Duane era archive shows if the Fillmore West release sells enough to warrant the effort.
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This will probably only fire things up even more, but, several previously released archive shows were "put together" from one or more different dates. Skip confided that to me a number of years ago. So, what we've been told was a "single" performance under a given date, really isn't accurate either.
Ultimately though, I'm just glad the material came out so that it could be enjoyed.
"Is that a real poncho or is that a Sears poncho?"
Coot - I could be wrong but I think that was only one show -
This will probably only fire things up even more, but, several previously released archive shows were "put together" from one or more different dates. Skip confided that to me a number of years ago. So, what we've been told was a "single" performance under a given date, really isn't accurate either.
Ultimately though, I'm just glad the material came out so that it could be enjoyed.
Coot,
Does not surprise me at all. All you have to do is look at Polydor's 1992 release "The Allman Brothers Band: The Fillmore Concerts" which is a 12 song compilation of songs from the March 12 & 13, 1971 and June 27, 1971, all from the Fillmore East. The packaging does indicate which show each track came from. "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed" was actually a mix of the song played at March 13, 1971 (first show) and the March 13, 1971 (second show). "You Don't Love Me" was a mix of the song played at March 13, 1971 (first show) and the March 12, 1971 (second show).
I would like to add that I also have preordered the Fillmore West 1971 box set and can't wait to simply listen to the great music. In addition, at the same time one of my hobbies is archiving live music including the music from, and the date & venue of concerts from the 60's & 70's. So yes I am very interested in where and when the music came from, but the music itself is of primary importance. With that said my earlier post regarding the dates of each of the Fillmore West 1971 shows should probably have been better placed in "Historical Members of the Allman Brothers Band > Duane Allman > DUANE ERA ABB RECORDINGS ~ reference list first post on page 1 ~ UPDATED 12th JAN 2019".
Coot - I could be wrong but I think that was only one show -
The archive 1971 Stonybrook release is a compilation of cuts from the early and late shows I believe.
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Coot - I could be wrong but I think that was only one show -
Sorry if I wasn’t clear enough, I wasn’t referring to the Fillmore West upcoming release but some previous archive releases.
"Is that a real poncho or is that a Sears poncho?"
Coot - Yes, I understand that. We're talking about a previous release of the original ABB. But I'm only aware of it being of one of the releases.
There is a great article in the Summer 2002 Issue 35 of the Hittin the note magazine centered around the American University archive release. In the article Kirk West explains how the tapes were found in a former band associates closet. He also goes on to hint that they have a stash of tapes from the early to mid 70's that might be viable archive material.
Here are some excerpts from the article about the tapes. I am paraphrasing a little to just give the info on the tapes.
Kirk West: Larry Brantley, who is Dickey's old guitar tech from the 70's, mentioned to me he had some of Mike Callahan ( ABB soundman 1969-1973) old quarter inch reel to reel tapes. He eventually brought over a box with half a dozen reel to reel tapes with American University on 2 reels.
He goes on to describe how it took a year for a guy named Rob Navarides, who worked in the Warner Brothers film restoration dept in L.A., to work on the American University tapes to get them in usable shape for the archive release as he did this type of work as a hobby on the side.
West then explains Brantley found some more tapes in a closet.
Kirk West: The tapes start in 1970, we don't have any from 1969, but we have tapes from 70, 71 plus some killer stuff from 72, 73, and 75. We've got some wonderful material from the six or seven year period, real prime cuts. Now our friend Larry ( Brantley) has come up with some more great tapes. About a year ago he cleaned out another closet and found half a dozen tapes, and four of them are from 71 shows. Master tapes all of them, and we rounded up a bunch of mid 70's stuff. We have tapes (70/71) that are a couple of weeks apart.
He mentions in the article that while the band did not tape every show Mike Callahan made a lot of tapes but he had a burglary where tapes were stolen so someone must have them somewhere collecting dust or just lost.
Sounds like there may be more stuff in the archive so would love to know exactly what they have and if there are any plans to release more Duane era shows.
Also curious what Warehouse shows they have in the archive that Butch mentioned in his Rolling Stone mag interview as well as saying they had tons of archive shows.
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I'd take a top shelf 1975 release (I know were not every '75 show was top shelf) out of that batch of tapes too.
Coot - Yes, I understand that. We're talking about a previous release of the original ABB. But I'm only aware of it being of one of the releases.
I Thought the 5/1/73 Nassau Coliseum show was one that "Borrowed" from other shows as well.
Coot - Yes, I understand that. We're talking about a previous release of the original ABB. But I'm only aware of it being of one of the releases.
On at least one other, a song was altered and pieced together. Nothing major, however, it's from two sources, two very different dates.
The Nassau Coliseum was put together from the two separate nights of performances. It's not just May 1, 1973.
"Is that a real poncho or is that a Sears poncho?"
The Mountain Jam & Outskirts of Town on the Bear's Sonic Journals Feb. 1970 compilation are spliced together from two different shows.
The same as Elizabeth Reed on the Fillmore Concerts.
I'm pretty sure they spliced what they thought were 2 versions of IMOER together, then when they listened to the tapes is was actually the same version they spliced to itself.
The answer is in the complete Fillmore box set
The Warehouse 3/20/71 show is an excellent soundboard and commonly available. There are very good sounding audience tapes for 3/13/70, 6/5/71 as well. There are audience tapes of 12/31/70 and 9/16/71 shows and both show are spectacular performances. Perhaps these are what Butch was talking about.
I', surprised to this - I was at the 5/1/73 Nassau Coliseum show and Skip emailed me about it a few times, but never mentioned it being from 2different shows. I still have the ticket stub too.
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I', surprised to this - I was at the 5/1/73 Nassau Coliseum show and Skip emailed me about it a few times, but never mentioned it being from 2different shows. I still have the ticket stub too.
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I attended the SPAC. show a month or so after Nassau and thought it was absolutely magnificent, an impression borne out by that archival release. It solidified the epiphany I experienced seeing the original lineup at the University of Vermont in late February of '71, about three weeks prior to the recording at Fillmore East (that latter show's setlist was once in the database here, but as of a check a couple weeks ago, no longer).
the 2/28/71 Fieldhouse show is absolutely a must have show. I don't consider the GD Merchandising release one of the ABB Archive shows in this discussion. That one is common knowledge as a spliced job.
the 2/28/71 Fieldhouse show is absolutely a must have show.
definitely.
I am forever grateful to ther person I was trading with who just sent it to me
the 2/28/71 Fieldhouse show is absolutely a must have show. I don't consider the GD Merchandising release one of the ABB Archive shows in this discussion. That one is common knowledge as a spliced job.
Man if there was a way to clean that one up really good it would be GOLD. My favorite by far in terms of performance.
So the release date has been pushed back already?! How do you announce a release date
one week and then push it back the next? JHC. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
I don't see any changes in the date. Sept 6th.
So the release date has been pushed back already?! How do you announce a release date
one week and then push it back the next? JHC. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
I understand Daryl's confusion.
The first announcement I saw had an August release date, 08-16-2019 I think. I don't remember if that was one from the band or from a magazine or something.
So the release date has been pushed back already?! How do you announce a release date
one week and then push it back the next? JHC. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.I understand Daryl's confusion.
The first announcement I saw had an August release date, 08-16-2019 I think. I don't remember if that was one from the band or from a magazine or something.
I do believe the initial posting @ Jambase had an August street date!?...I am all for waiting a bit for the curators to confirm the correct dates and venues, all the more so for premium sound quality---all to match the presumed splendor of the music!?!?!
I just hope it ships on time!!!! 
I’m listening to WP on Sirius/XM right now. It’s great.
Might be the newness of it, but this is a very very cool version and evolved from the earlier versions.
Now I really want to hear it all.
