Titans of American classic rock ZZ TOP and LYNYRD SKYNYRD have announced their first co-headlining tour — "The Sharp Dressed Simple Man" tour — taking over 22 cities in North America this summer. Produced by Live Nation, the tour kicks off on Friday, July 21 at iTHINK Financial Amphitheatre in West Palm Beach, Florida and continues with stops in Fort Worth, Phoenix, Chicago, and more before wrapping up in Camden, New Jersey at Freedom Mortgage Pavilion on Sunday, September 17.
Tickets go on sale starting Friday, December 16 at 10 a.m. local time on LiveNation.com.
"The Sharp Dressed Simple Man" tour dates:
Jul. 21 - West Palm Beach, FL - iTHINK Financial Amphitheatre
Jul. 23 - Alpharetta, GA - Ameris Bank Amphitheatre
Jul. 28 - Rogers, AR - Walmart AMP
Jul. 29 - Fort Worth, TX - Dickies Arena
Jul. 30 - Woodlands, TX - The Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavilion presented by Huntsman
Aug. 07 - Denver, CO - Fiddler's Green Amphitheatre*
Aug. 10 - Mountain View, CA - Shoreline Amphitheatre
Aug. 11 - Wheatland, CA - Toyota Amphitheatre
Aug. 13 - Phoenix, AZ - Ak-Chin Pavilion
Aug. 17 - Maryland Heights, MO - Hollywood Casino Amphitheatre - St. Louis, MO
Aug. 19 - Tinley Park, IL - Hollywood Casino Amphitheatre - Chicago, IL
Aug. 20 - Noblesville, IN - Ruoff Music Center
Aug. 25 - Cincinnati, OH - Riverbend Music Center
Aug. 26 - Clarkston, MI - Pine Knob Music Theatre
Aug. 27 - Toronto, ON - Budweiser Stage
Sep. 01 - Charlotte, NC - PNC Music Pavilion
Sep. 02 - Columbia, MD - Merriweather Post Pavilion
Sep. 03 - Burgettstown, PA - The Pavilion at Star Lake
Sep. 08 - Saratoga Springs, NY - Saratoga Performing Arts Center
Sep. 09 - Hershey, PA - Hersheypark Stadium
Sep. 10 - Holmdel, NJ - PNC Bank Arts Center
Sep. 15 - Raleigh, NC - Coastal Credit Union Music Park at Walnut Creek
Sep. 17 - Camden, NJ - Freedom Mortgage Pavilion
* Not a Live Nation date
As LYNYRD SKYNYRD approaches the 50th anniversary of the band's critically acclaimed debut album "Pronounced 'Lĕh-'nérd 'Skin-'nérd" in 2023, they resonate as deeply with their multi-generational fan base today as when they first emerged out of Jacksonville, Florida in 1973. Few ensembles have had the deep impact in creating a lifestyle as SKYNYRD has. The band travels forward with a primary mission of celebrating a legacy that honors all whom have had a resonating contribution to the lives of hundreds of millions of fans globally. Former members Ronnie Van Zant, Allen Collins, Steve Gaines, Ed King, Billy Powell, Bob Burns, Leon Wilkeson and Hughie Thomasson alongside others will forever remain significant contributors to this indelible repertoire and the band's colorful history. Today, LYNYRD SKYNYRD rocks on with a current lineup featuring Johnny Van Zant, Rickey Medlocke, Mark "Sparky" Matejka, Michael Cartellone, Keith Christopher, Peter Keys, Carol Chase and Stacy Michelle. Gary Rossington continues to have a significant presence and creative influence with the band, while making select appearances on the road.
The rock and roll powerhouse continually tours, and as Van Zant shares: "It's about the legacy of LYNYRD SKYNYRD, and what it stands for, what the fans are all about. There's nothing like getting out there playing a great show with SKYNYRD and seeing people love this music." Adds Rossington: "We're still standing, Still keeping the music going. We wanted to do the guys who aren't with us any more proud, and keep the name proud, too."
With a catalog of over 60 albums, billions of streams, and tens of millions of records sold, Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers LYNYRD SKYNYRD remain a cultural icon that appeal to all generations.
"That Little Ol' Band From Texas" has been at it for well over a half century delivering rock, blues and boogie on stage and studio to millions of devoted fans. With iconography as distinctive as their sound, ZZ TOP is globally recognized with their beards, hotrod cars, spinning guitars and that magic keychain, all of which transcend geography and language.
It was in 1969 Houston when ZZ TOP coalesced from the core of two rival bands, Billy Gibbons's MOVING SIDEWALKS and Frank Beard and Dusty Hill's AMERICAN BLUES. ZZ TOP's 1973 release, "Tres Hombres", catapulted them to national attention with the hit "La Grange", still one of the band's signature pieces today. "Eliminator", their 1983 album was something of a paradigm shift for ZZ TOP. Their roots blues skew was intact and added to the mix came their hightech-age trappings that soon found a visual outlet with such tracks as "Sharp Dressed Man" and "Legs" on the nascent MTV. It was one of the record industry's first albums to have been certified diamond, far beyond gold and platinum, a reflection of sales exceeding 10 million units.
As a touring outfit, they've been without peer over the past five decades, having performed before millions of fans over four continents and have been the subject of their own Grammy-nominated documentary titled "That Little Ol' Band From Texas". The band's lineup of the bearded Gibbons and Hill and Beard, who ironically is clean shaven, remained intact for more than 50 years. When Dusty temporarily departed the tour in the summer of 2021, Elwood Francis entered the picture accepting the directive from Dusty to be the perfect choice to stand in on the bass-guitar and now handles the low-end duties for the band for the present as well as into the future.
The elements that keep ZZ TOP fresh, enduring can be summed up in the three words of the band's internal mantra: "Tone, Taste and Tenacity". As genuine roots performers, they have few peers. Their influences are both the originators of the form — Muddy Waters, B.B. King, Jimmy Reed, et al — as well as the British blues rockers and Jimi Hendrix who emerged generations before ZZ's ascendance.
They have sold hundreds of millions of records over the course of their career, have been officially designated as Heroes of The State of Texas, inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame (by Keith Richards, no less) and have been referenced in countless cartoons and sitcoms. They are true rock icons and, against all odds, they're really just doing what they've always done. ZZ TOP abides!
Everyone has a plan, till you get punched in the face,
Just out of curiosity I pulled up the local venue here in Indiana to see what some of the tixs are going for.
3rd row center Official Platinum $546.00 + Fees
Staying in the lower level towards the back you have 276.00 to 149.00
Upper level 176.00 to 49.00 and the lawn 29.50
Everyone has a plan, till you get punched in the face,
One of the (very) few perks of being a senior citizen - I saw these (and so many others) in their original and prime states for pennies on the dollar for what they're charging in their own old age! I don't blame them for rakin' it in while they still can. Rock and Roll is officially on auction to the highest bidder. Now get the f##k off my freakin' lawn! 😉
Good for both bands and their legions of fans. I, however, just can't get into seeing either act in this day and age live as from what I've seen in various clips over the years they seem to play everything, especially their hits, note for note from their recordings and do very little improvisation or venture too far from the original recordings.
So given I've heard their music for decades on classic rock radio, it just seems overly boring to me to hear Freebird and Le Grange played exactly the same way I've heard it countless times before.
Am I wrong in this perception? Anyone? Bueller?
I am a fan of both bands but not at those prices. I would rather pay less than <$100 to go see Gov't Mule, North Mississippi Allstars, Sonny Landreth etc.
I don't have a problem with them getting as much $$$ as they can if fans are willing to pay that kind of $$$ but they won't get it from me.
I could buy the nose bleeds for less than $100 but as I have gotten older I can't see the point in going to a concert if I need to watch the band on a big video screen because I am too far away to see them playing.
Good for both bands and their legions of fans. I, however, just can't get into seeing either act in this day and age live as from what I've seen in various clips over the years they seem to play everything, especially their hits, note for note from their recordings and do very little improvisation or venture too far from the original recordings.
So given I've heard their music for decades on classic rock radio, it just seems overly boring to me to hear Freebird and Le Grange played exactly the same way I've heard it countless times before.
Am I wrong in this perception? Anyone? Bueller?
I am a fan of both bands but not at those prices. I would rather pay less than <$100 to go see Gov't Mule, North Mississippi Allstars, Sonny Landreth etc.
I don't have a problem with them getting as much $$$ as they can if fans are willing to pay that kind of $$$ but they won't get it from me.
I could buy the nose bleeds for less than $100 but as I have gotten older I can't see the point in going to a concert if I need to watch the band on a big video screen because I am too far away to see them playing.
Good posts by the both of you. Like it was mentioned, the music for me has been played and beaten into the ground, some of it I could careless if I ever heard again. I cant see paying those prices for what is being offered up. Its worth it to some , but not to me.
I was never really a fan of Mellencamp back in his 80's heyday. Living here in Indiana his music was on heavy rotation. Almost you could not get away from it. I more so started listening to him in the 90's and his 2 releases it did with T Bone Burnett are definitely some of his strongest in his catalog, at least for me. My wife and I have seen he probably 2 times in the last 6 yrs. We thought about making a trip down to Evansville this May and making a weekend of it, but I pulled the plug . He puts on a great show and his band is tight as anything, but its not worth it to me when the set list is his regurgitated hits from the 80's. I don't want to hear that, but I guess the fans of those are into it. The "Best Of." He has and others have so much more to offer, its a shame it never see's the light of day.
You gotta hand it to them , every summer these type of classic rock acts are still drawing them in. To me its almost brand over band at this point, and I am sure the money is an incentive.
I know Bill mentioned it above and before in other posts, but Mule is definitely the best bang for your buck if you are into them. I have not seen them in quite some time, so hopefully in the near future I can change that.
I am on Discord in a Deep Purple chat and , the topic came up of setlists, being pretty much the same. One of the members shed some light on to this. Not sure how active of a " thing " this is , but I guess there are stipulations by some venues that they play a certain percentage of the hits for the people who receive comp tickets. I have never heard of that before. Interesting....
Everyone has a plan, till you get punched in the face,
I guess that among the things that Skynard learned from the Who when they toured with them (with a dose of Dylan thrown in) - the Never Ending Farewell Tour! 😉I thought Skynyrd had a farewell tour?
If only...
Wasn't the first Farewell Tour of The Who in 1982? I seem to remember that as a kid.
They did a tour in I think 1999 because Skynyrd was promoting their new release, Edge of Forever. Could have been 2000. I saw two nights of it in Michigan. First night in Grand Rapids, second in Auburn Hills. This was the first time I saw String Cheese Incident as they opened. You might recall them doing a co-headling tour with the ABB several years ago. They were okay for this but playing with The ABB in Red Rocks was too much for me. We didn't even stick around the second night once The ABB were done. You can find these shows and there are a bunch of sit ins between the two bands.
Anyway, the Skynyrd/ZZ Top shows were fun. They obviously don't get to play as long as they would without two name bands but still a good time. The second night I saw them Kid Rock introduced Skynyrd as "The Best ****ing Band in the World" or something to that effect. I was wondering if he would play but thankfully he didn't. He is from the area so I could see it happening.
Regarding those prices, I don't get that. Here in Chicago you can get in the pavilion for 50 bucks and the lawn is 30.
Everything in Moderation. Including Moderation.
I saw the Doobie Brothers in their farewell tour in the 1980's. I think Tom Johnston had already left do it was Michael McDonald and Pat Simmons did the lead vocals with Michael doing most. My memory isn't working well on that show but I think Jeff Skunk Baxter was there and had replaced Tom Johnston.
Of course Tom Johnston and the band returned some years later.
Lynyrd Skynyrd has done several farewell tours. Their last one had several legs that stretched into the next year then the next and the next and it's still going.
Famous bands often are lured back out after they had officially quit. Some of it is certain members need to get their bank account back to where they like it.
The Beatles resisted a comeback tour in the face of $million dollar offers to do just one show.
Paul McCartney some years ago revealed he was at John Lennon's apartment in Manhattan and Saturday Night Live was on and they offered the Beatles $10.00 to do another show. Paul said John Lennon jump up and said that offer wouldn't be selling out for a pile of cash so let's go down there. Paul McCartney agreed but after a few minutes they decided by the time they got a cab and made it down to Rockefeller Plaza and up to the studio, the show would be over or almost over so they didn't go.
I know this has been talked about on here before, but just wanted to gauge your feelings on some of these bands, like LS, ZZ top, Yes, Foreigner and I know some others, who carry on with very minimal to maybe one original member left. I know there has been some chatter in the music world about bands carrying on with no original or "classic lineup" involved. How would you compare that to the ABB, Deep Purple and others who have done the same thing to a degree. I have some feelings on it.
This plays along with it as well, how about acts like, Journey, Yes, STP, Queensryche who have replace the vocalist with an almost identical sounding front man.
Everyone has a plan, till you get punched in the face,
I know this has been talked about on here before, but just wanted to gauge your feelings on some of these bands, like LS, ZZ top, Yes, Foreigner and I know some others, who carry on with very minimal to maybe one original member left. I know there has been some chatter in the music world about bands carrying on with no original or "classic lineup" involved. How would you compare that to the ABB, Deep Purple and others who have done the same thing to a degree. I have some feelings on it.
This plays along with it as well, how about acts like, Journey, Yes, STP, Queensryche who have replace the vocalist with an almost identical sounding front man.
how is zz top who is missing just 1 member the same as the other bands you named? zz top has 2/3 of the band still while the other bands you named have usually less than 1/2. deep purple though the original members and the classic lineup are different. the classic lineup was gillan, glover, blackmore, pace and lord and 3 of them are still there
I know this has been talked about on here before, but just wanted to gauge your feelings on some of these bands, like LS, ZZ top, Yes, Foreigner and I know some others, who carry on with very minimal to maybe one original member left. I know there has been some chatter in the music world about bands carrying on with no original or "classic lineup" involved. How would you compare that to the ABB, Deep Purple and others who have done the same thing to a degree. I have some feelings on it.
This plays along with it as well, how about acts like, Journey, Yes, STP, Queensryche who have replace the vocalist with an almost identical sounding front man.
how is zz top who is missing just 1 member the same as the other bands you named? zz top has 2/3 of the band still while the other bands you named have usually less than 1/2. deep purple though the original members and the classic lineup are different. the classic lineup was gillan, glover, blackmore, pace and lord and 3 of them are still there
being just 3 of them helped ZZ stay intact all those years (RIP Dusty)
Aerosmith is about the only band to have stayed intact from Day I - also the J Geils Band, the Cars…..
49 of 50 bands have had changing personnel over the years/decades
when Ian & Roger left Deep Purple & David & Glenn joined
when The Who decided to carry on w/Kenney Jones
when Mick, then Ronnie joined the Stones - & when they played those shows this year w/out Charlie - yes even when Bill departed in 1994
esp obviously when the Brothers carried on w/Chuck & Lamar - up to when Dickey & the ABB parted ways in 2000
when Sammy Hagar replaced DLR in Van Halen
….In Each Instance, it was like, “gosh how are they gonna sound now???”
But They Carried On
Does “The Brothers” 2020 show count as an ABB listen?
Any comment about Aerosmith’s 2013 Music From Another Dimension album, 🤙
Van Halen’s reunion one w/DLR from around then, A Different Kind Of Truth, has some typical (ie killer) VH & Eddie stuff
cool topic - yeah Doug Gray has the same role in todays MTB that Gary has w/Skynyrd, Trouble No More now has w/the ABB - same Jaimoe at the 2020 MSG show - just their being there gives/gave tours/show credibility
if they’re cool w/it, if people come, if the musicians do the name proud & the crowd leaves happy - all good indeed & thanks for keeping the music out there
also, the ageless wonderful Deep Purple is continuing w/a new guitarist now that Steve Morse has happily departed (retired)
the wondrous power of music🎶🎼🎵
But yes, some venues in places like Lynn MA, Uncasville CT & elsewhere still advertise in summer for acts like Dennis Yost & the Classics IV, Spanky & Our Gang, Rick Derringer, The Happenings - one hit wonders from the 60s who you can’t believe are still around - who knows who could be in those bands
I know this has been talked about on here before, but just wanted to gauge your feelings on some of these bands, like LS, ZZ top, Yes, Foreigner and I know some others, who carry on with very minimal to maybe one original member left. I know there has been some chatter in the music world about bands carrying on with no original or "classic lineup" involved. How would you compare that to the ABB, Deep Purple and others who have done the same thing to a degree. I have some feelings on it.
This plays along with it as well, how about acts like, Journey, Yes, STP, Queensryche who have replace the vocalist with an almost identical sounding front man.
how is zz top who is missing just 1 member the same as the other bands you named? zz top has 2/3 of the band still while the other bands you named have usually less than 1/2. deep purple though the original members and the classic lineup are different. the classic lineup was gillan, glover, blackmore, pace and lord and 3 of them are still there
being just 3 of them helped ZZ stay intact all those years (RIP Dusty)
Aerosmith is about the only band to have stayed intact from Day I - also the J Geils Band, the Cars…..
49 of 50 bands have had changing personnel over the years/decades
when Ian & Roger left Deep Purple & David & Glenn joined
when The Who decided to carry on w/Kenney Jones
when Mick, then Ronnie joined the Stones - & when they played those shows this year w/out Charlie - yes even when Bill departed in 1994
esp obviously when the Brothers carried on w/Chuck & Lamar - up to when Dickey & the ABB parted ways in 2000
when Sammy Hagar replaced DLR in Van Halen
….In Each Instance, it was like, “gosh how are they gonna sound now???”
But They Carried OnDoes “The Brothers” 2020 show count as an ABB listen?
Any comment about Aerosmith’s 2013 Music From Another Dimension album, 🤙
Van Halen’s reunion one w/DLR from around then, A Different Kind Of Truth, has some typical (ie killer) VH & Eddie stuff
cool topic - yeah Doug Gray has the same role in todays MTB that Gary has w/Skynyrd, Trouble No More now has w/the ABB - same Jaimoe at the 2020 MSG show - just their being there gives/gave tours/show credibility
if they’re cool w/it, if people come, if the musicians do the name proud & the crowd leaves happy - all good indeed & thanks for keeping the music out there
also, the ageless wonderful Deep Purple is continuing w/a new guitarist now that Steve Morse has happily departed (retired)
the wondrous power of music🎶🎼🎵
nope aerosmith had a 5 year period without whitford and perry. pretty much 1979-1984 they were gone and did 2 albums during this timeframe without perry or whitford being there for the entire album sessions. night in the ruts perry is missing on 1/2 of it and rock in a hard place absent altogether and whitford played on a song or 2 an then quit . J Geils band actually did an album without peter wolf in 1984 but technically i don't think replaced him but then less than a decade ago J Geils band did a tour WITHOUT J Geils on guitar. Duke Levine i believe was his replacement also the original drummer was missing that tour
I was reading Gary Rossington, the only original LS member, will not be at many of the latest tour dates and maybe none. Gary has been battling heart problems for years. That means NO original members at most shows.
There was a Three Dog Night thread here I was reading. I googled them and only ONE of the three original lead singers is on their tour. And one had passed away.
Little Feat is down to just a couple originals but Scott Sharrard is doing a great job covering for the late Lowell George on slide guitar.
I went to the Brothers concert, which was very good BTW, but I didn't go under the impression it was an Allman Brothers Band show but a celebration of the ABB.
I'm doubtful a new lineup calling itself The Allman Brothers Band will ever take to a stage. The usual reason is the death of Gregg Allman. But Ronnie Van Zant died, Lowell George, Perry quit Journey and on and on. There are a number of classic bands on the road without the main or classic singer.
As to the ABB, when Duane died I remember knowing a few fans who dropped off. Same when the Chuck/Lamar lineup suddenly dissolved over Gregg testifying at Scooter's trial. I didn't hear anything about ABB fans moving on after Warren and Allen quit but several I knew my age lost interest when the Dickey thing happened in 2000. And as someone who first saw the band in 1970, it took awhile for me to adjust to the ABB with only one original (Gregg) on the front line.
Just pick and choose what bands you would see with just one or two originals. But I'm not going to pay $200 a ticket to see a band with one or two original members especially if the singer is different.
A great bunch of musicians doing the songs of a famous band as a tribute band is okay. That is what the Brothers was to me. One original in Jaimoe plus Reese was kinda an original. Chuck Leavell actually replaced Duane in 1972 just before they lost Berry and Otiel held the bass guitar chair longer than any member plus Derek and Warren had a long stretch as the guitarists.
Derek said for a few years they would discuss who was covering for Duane and who covering for Dickey on the old songs but after several years they just decided to just play and not think about that. But they did quote some Duane and Dickey licks here and there on the old songs. And Warren said on Statesboro Blues whoever played slide couldn't stray too far from what Duane did or it wouldn't sound right but he noted Duane played it a little differently each night on the shows he heard on tapes but everyone had heard how Duane did it on Fillmore East so many times if you strayed too far it wouldn't sound right to many of them. Good point I suppose.
Carob instead of chocolate ... soybean patties instead of hamburger ... Delta 8 instead of cannabis ...
Some of these things work on an acceptable level - some don't. Your uncle Fred wearing your late grandpa's sweater at Christmas - just ain't the same as having grandpa there. This is how I feel about all of the cover/tribute/legacy/offspring acts.
For me, the Tedeschi/Trucks Band and Mule are the greatest remnants and vestiges of things that once were. Both of these acts throw an ABB tune in on occasion. Beyond that, they both make music of their own. I know that a lot of these acts have amazing players ... but they come off (to me) as uncle Fred in Grandpa's sweater. Glad that they are here for those who really need that ABB fix.
I was reading Gary Rossington, the only original LS member, will not be at many of the latest tour dates and maybe none. Gary has been battling heart problems for years. That means NO original members at most shows.
There was a Three Dog Night thread here I was reading. I googled them and only ONE of the three original lead singers is on their tour. And one had passed away.
Little Feat is down to just a couple originals but Scott Sharrard is doing a great job covering for the late Lowell George on slide guitar.
I went to the Brothers concert, which was very good BTW, but I didn't go under the impression it was an Allman Brothers Band show but a celebration of the ABB.
I'm doubtful a new lineup calling itself The Allman Brothers Band will ever take to a stage. The usual reason is the death of Gregg Allman. But Ronnie Van Zant died, Lowell George, Perry quit Journey and on and on. There are a number of classic bands on the road without the main or classic singer.
As to the ABB, when Duane died I remember knowing a few fans who dropped off. Same when the Chuck/Lamar lineup suddenly dissolved over Gregg testifying at Scooter's trial. I didn't hear anything about ABB fans moving on after Warren and Allen quit but several I knew my age lost interest when the Dickey thing happened in 2000. And as someone who first saw the band in 1970, it took awhile for me to adjust to the ABB with only one original (Gregg) on the front line.
Just pick and choose what bands you would see with just one or two originals. But I'm not going to pay $200 a ticket to see a band with one or two original members especially if the singer is different.
A great bunch of musicians doing the songs of a famous band as a tribute band is okay. That is what the Brothers was to me. One original in Jaimoe plus Reese was kinda an original. Chuck Leavell actually replaced Duane in 1972 just before they lost Berry and Otiel held the bass guitar chair longer than any member plus Derek and Warren had a long stretch as the guitarists.
Derek said for a few years they would discuss who was covering for Duane and who covering for Dickey on the old songs but after several years they just decided to just play and not think about that. But they did quote some Duane and Dickey licks here and there on the old songs. And Warren said on Statesboro Blues whoever played slide couldn't stray too far from what Duane did or it wouldn't sound right but he noted Duane played it a little differently each night on the shows he heard on tapes but everyone had heard how Duane did it on Fillmore East so many times if you strayed too far it wouldn't sound right to many of them. Good point I suppose.
i am a bit confused by the part in your post i bolded in the quote, there were shows billed as the ABB with just gregg? i thought jamoie, butch and gregg were at all shows until the band broke up in 2014
the wondrous power of music🎶🎼🎵
nope aerosmith had a 5 year period without whitford and perry. pretty much 1979-1984 they were gone and did 2 albums during this timeframe without perry or whitford being there for the entire album sessions. night in the ruts perry is missing on 1/2 of it and rock in a hard place absent altogether and whitford played on a song or 2 an then quit . J Geils band actually did an album without peter wolf in 1984 but technically i don't think replaced him but then less than a decade ago J Geils band did a tour WITHOUT J Geils on guitar. Duke Levine i believe was his replacement also the original drummer was missing that tour
aerosmith didn’t record anything without the same 5 guys - Jimmy crespo & the other guy were there for awhile, unsure if they’re considered “past members”
same w/J Geils, they recorded up to the end w/the same five guys - the album w/out Wolf is not a J Geils album even tho it says that - yes in one-off reunions of later years they had another drummer - guitarist J Geils participated in some of these
same thing w/the Cars, it was the same group from their first to last album - to be technical about it, The New Cars, with Todd Rundgren, did a CD in later years
but again, it’s so long after the fact that the Cars as we know them. also J Geils & Aerosmith, were intact from day 1 🤙🎶
@stephen nope the album rock in a hard place feature whitford on just 1 track and he says only rhythm guitar as he left before even that song was complete so yes there is an aerosmith album from 1982 with crespo doing all the guitars other than rhytm guitar on 1 track. joe perry is nowhere on the album. he left in 1979 and the album was started in 1980. the previous album by the band in 1979 night in the ruts joe perry plays on 6 of the 9 tunes including "three mile smile" to which crespo does the solo and lead work. richie supa does most of the guitar work on "mia" and some of the work on "no surprize". brad whitford has stated he isn't sure how much he appears on night in the ruts though he is credited as playing rhythm guitar on every song which we already know he doesn't even appear on the songs "mia" or "three mile smile" at all. so yes aerosmith recorded a ton of studio stuff without the same 5 guys.
Aerosmith fans I know would not say the two new guys recorded a ton of stuff w/Aerosmith - they’re basically forgotten, but your research shows that they are on one or two of the albums - didn’t think that was the case🤙
@stephen certainly not trying to be funny but my "research" is i own the albums and the credits are clearly listed. the album classics live 1 also features mainly the crespo/dufay era. these 2 guys were official members. they had started working on a followup to rock in a hard place when crespo called up joe and brad and told them they need to get back in the band as he could tell tyler missed them. thats why crespo was thanked by the band in their rock n roll hall of fame speach. i believe they thanked him for "commiting career suicide by getting us back together". also heres an official music video by the band featuring crespo/dufay
They’re more than the blip on the screen I thought they were - thought of them as sort of pinch hitters/fill ins/stop gaps etc - cool clip & info, thx!🎸🤙
I always liked Rock In A Hard Place, Night in The Ruts and Done With Mirrors . Probably not theyre best sellers , but I enjoy them.
I have heard this a few times regarding Ted Templeman, DLR and Aersomsith:
https://superdekes.wordpress.com/2020/09/04/aerosmith-permanent-vacation-1987/
^- In the Ted Templeman book, Ted explains that he was set to produce the followup to Done With Mirrors(which Ted produced) but declined it as Ted was supposed to produce David Lee Roths followup to Eat Em And Smile but when it came time to start on Dave’s album. Roth fired Ted as Dave wanted to do it himself( Roth did with Steve Vai which became Skyscraper). Ted was pissed as he gave up a million bucks as he lost out on the Aero job. Ted figured Dave didn’t want him producing the competition so to speak.
I also read some place where Ted was kinda disappointed on how DWM came out and wanted a 2nd chance. I have heard that a few times.
Everyone has a plan, till you get punched in the face,
@matt05 I'm sorry. I was referring to the front line. Even Gregg stated about 2005 as he looks across the stage from his seat at the organ, there in not one original left on the front line except himself. If he wants to see another original, he has to look at the drummers. Then he said sometimes he thinks he should let these young guys return to their own bands and go completely solo himself.
And as we know, Gregg and all of them thought they would retire the band in 2009 at the 40th but Butch talked them into giving him another 5 years. Then in 2014 Butch got cold feet and asked for yet another 5 years but Warren and Derek gave notice they wouldn't do it. Then Gregg said he wouldn't be interest in finding new guitar players and wouldn't do it either. So we lost the ABB in 2014.
Happy New Year Matt05!!!!
They’re more than the blip on the screen I thought they were - thought of them as sort of pinch hitters/fill ins/stop gaps etc - cool clip & info, thx!🎸🤙
even funnier you mentioned music from another dimension in an earlier post, rick dufay who has remained friends with the guys and usually backstage when they play a show near him plays guitar on the cover of "shakey ground" available on some editions. the band was also trying to get crespo on the album but scheduling didn't work out so the band didn't forget about crespo/dufay either
@matt05 I'm sorry. I was referring to the front line. Even Gregg stated about 2005 as he looks across the stage from his seat at the organ, there in not one original left on the front line except himself. If he wants to see another original, he has to look at the drummers. Then he said sometimes he thinks he should let these young guys return to their own bands and go completely solo himself.
And as we know, Gregg and all of them thought they would retire the band in 2009 at the 40th but Butch talked them into giving him another 5 years. Then in 2014 Butch got cold feet and asked for yet another 5 years but Warren and Derek gave notice they wouldn't do it. Then Gregg said he wouldn't be interest in finding new guitar players and wouldn't do it either. So we lost the ABB in 2014.
Happy New Year Matt05!!!!
cool, thank you for the info. i actually didn't know butch wanted 5 more years in 2014.
Happy New Year
@rusty Yes I agree. TTB and Gov't Mule are the big connection to the ABB. Both guitarists know the ABB forwards and backwards and were in the ABB for long periods ( two times for Warren) and are well versed in how the original band played
Of course if Chuck Leavell or Jack Pearson are playing in their own band is similar and Otiel too and I began to really like Allman Betts Band but apparently they are done. Best I can figure Devon and Berry Oakley can't work together for some reason. Maybe that is wrong. Hope so.
I may try Trouble No More if they are in my area. Apparently they are the official ABB tribute band.
