While international law for asylum seekers is clear, that the seekers have to seek asylum in the first country they set foot on once they leave their own land (if they are refugees from a natural disaster or they are from a war torn country like Syria), this is interesting as to why Mexico does not qualify as a SAFE THIRD COUNTRY for Asylum seekers.
https://www.womensrefugeecommission.org/images/zdocs/SafeThirdCountries.pdf
"We don't have any bi-lateral or multilateral agreement in place with them." Oh boy.
Mexico has said they will not the asylum seekers to come back to Mexico once they are in the US (even illegally)
So we cannot just send them back there. There is a caravan (a new one) with 1800 people heading our way. This needs to be addressed.
AND YET the US plans to try to start sending some of them back today!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-administration-to-start-sending-asylum-seekers-back-to-mexico/2019/01/24/53961fb0-2022-11e9-8e21-59a09ff1e2a1_story.html?utm_term=.86d7a689ba9c
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To get around the idea of we are sending back for you to deal with, we do it nicely. We say we want to send them back there to wait for their cases to come up in the US courts.
https://www.wola.org/analysis/trump-asylum-seekers-wait-in-mexico-border-crisis/
Under the announced “Migrant Protection Protocols,” individuals entering the United States at the official ports of entry without proper documentation, or who are apprehended between the ports of entry, will be returned to Mexico to wait out their immigration proceedings. Launched on January 25 as a pilot program at the San Ysidro port of entry, the program will initially apply to those who are requesting asylum at this port. This includes thousands of Central Americans and asylum seekers of other nationalities who have been waiting months in Tijuana for an appointment with U.S. officials. According to news reports, these individuals will not be screened for asylum; rather, they will be given a notice to appear before a U.S. immigration judge in 45 days.
"During fiscal year 2018, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) administered preliminary asylum screenings, known as “credible fear interviews,” for 92,959 migrants seeking protection in the United States who arrived at the southwest border."
"Because the U.S. Justice Department employs only 395 immigration judges, the current backlog in U.S. immigration courts has reached over 800,000 cases. As a result, those who enter into the U.S. asylum system are now usually being given initial hearing dates in late 2021 at the earliest, and often for 2022 or 2023."
COMMENT: Does anyone of the Democrats in Congress NOT realize there is a problem with the influx of illegals coming into this country and that border security needs to be dealt with? One of Trumps proposals that the Democrats did not like was to appropriate more money for Judges to deal with the backlog of cases. They did not think that was important. There are 800,000 backlogged cases, the hearings cannot even be held for 2, 3 or 4 years from now and that is just with the people already waiting, and the caravans keep coming.
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No one's mentioned that our southern border neighbor is rotten with corruption to the core, reaching the highest levels. There is no way that mutual border cooperation can be trusted when the past President is crooked.
Former Mexican President Peña Nieto Took $100 Million Bribe, Witness at El Chapo Trial Says
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/15/nyregion/el-chapo-trial.html
One effective solution is a wall with technology that cant be paid off by the cartel.
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No one's mentioned that our southern border neighbor is rotten with corruption to the core, reaching the highest levels. There is no way that mutual border cooperation can be trusted when the past President is crooked.
Agreed. This is the root of the problem. All Latino countries in Central America and the Caribbean have corrupt leadership that pocket the funds that could build infrastructure and economies. If they would build up their countries, there wouldn’t be a need for the people to flee. I’d fully support American efforts to replace the leadership in Mexico with one that is interested in building up the country, and give the people safety, food, shelter, healthcare, and work.
One effective solution is a wall with technology that cant be paid off by the cartel.
Is this an accusation against our border agents?
I don't think anybody has considered El Chapo, I have read excerpts from his trial. If they are true then he operates like a Mexican Mafia Don.
Right now Trump says 8,000 more people are heading for the U.S. in a caravan.
"We have turned away, at great expense, two major Caravans, but a big one has now formed and is coming. At least 8000 people! If we had a powerful Wall, they wouldn’t even try to make the long and dangerous journey. Build the Wall and Crime will Fall!"
@realDonaldTrump
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At this point with the sheer numbers of people who are trying to come into America, the Democrats have to realize:
1) We cannot afford to have another shutdown, because then the negotiations in Congress stop (as I understand it) and the President has to act on his own to solve the problems.
2) We do not want to end up with martial law on any street in America which could happen if another shutdown occurs and goes on long enough.
3) I mentioned last time those 800,000 workers not being paid, who could not pay their mortgages and what that does to the banking sector. We do not need another banking bailout in this country.
A solution is partial funding for part of the wall. Continue working on asylum and immigration reform with both houses of Congress taking part and coming forth with meaningful reforms. We cannot have unrestrained invasion of our country by ANY groups of people, it becomes a free for all, people get shot, bad things happen.
Not that I agree with it, but US military forces have held Talibs at bay in Afghanistan, is this what is necessary on our southern border, to have ground troops and then "air support" (choppers shooting people breaching the border). Right now, for the last five days there have been peace negotiations going on in Qatar between the Taliban and the US Representative, Zalmay Khalizad, yet in Sangin District in Helmand Province there were two mass shootings of women and children from US forces. The US denies they were US forces (shooting from choppers in the sky) but the United Nations affirms there is "credible evidence" that this is what happened. This was reported in the New York Times today.
UNAMA is following up on credible reports of civilian casualties, including children, from an aerial operation in #Sangin district of #Helmand.
https://twitter.com/UNAMAnews
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These scenes which are always somewhere else can become commonplace at our southern border if unruly, unrestrained people continue, yes CONTINUE, to breach our border. The news can place nice and not report on it, but it will happen IF nothing is done to secure the border.
What is Pelosi's point? Let them all in, and register them as Democrats to try to take back the 2020 election?
She said yesterday she will not approve "one dime" that is 10 cents to build the wall. This must change.
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3 Caravans Coming
1 Caravan has 12,000 people!
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If those caravans coming knew this they might turn around and head for the hills. These are tactics used on Guantanamo inmates!
"Federal immigration officials are force-feeding six immigrants through plastic nasal tubes during a hunger strike that has gone on for a month inside a Texas detention facility, it emerged on Thursday. US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) says 11 detainees at the El Paso processing center have been refusing food, some for more than 30 days.
Detainees who spoke out, along with a relative and an attorney representing hunger strikers, said nearly 30 detainees from India and Cuba have been refusing to eat, according to an investigation by the Associated Press.
Some are now so weak they cannot stand up or talk. Another four detainees are on hunger strikes in the agency’s Miami, Phoenix, San Diego and San Francisco areas of responsibility, an Ice spokeswoman, Leticia Zamarripa, acknowledged on Wednesday. "
https://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2013/jul/09/yasiin-bey-force-fed-guantanomo-bay-mos-def
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3 Caravans Coming
1 Caravan has 12,000 people!
[Edited on 1/31/2019 by gina]
Jobs await them at Mar a Lago.
"The Trump Organization employed illegal immigrants"
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-trump-organization-employed-illegal-immigrants-2019-01-30
I don't know about all that Piacere, but meanwhile back at the border, 4,000 more troops are going.
It doesn't need to cost 8 Billion to build the wall? Yep that's right a company can do it for 1.4 billion.
A U.S. company is offering to build 234 miles of President Trump's border wall for just $1.4 billion, a fraction of the $8 billion the Trump administration is hoping to use for that project.
Fisher Sand and Gravel Company's President and CEO Tommy Fisher said the government is overpaying and that for $4.31 billion, he can build the wall and incorporate paved roads and border technology plus warranty.
"Our whole point is to break through the government bureaucracy," Fisher told the Washington Examiner. "If they do the small procurements as they are now … that’s not going to cut it."
Of the $8 billion Trump is hoping to spend, he already has $1.375 billion of that amount from Congress, which can only be used to build fencing in the Rio Grande Valley. Trump is seeking to repurpose another $3.1 billion in defense funding for more border wall and $3.6 billion more through his emergency declaration that Congress and the courts will challenge.
Fisher said that the roughly $1.4 billion is enough to build 20 miles of levee wall in the Rio Grande Valley, plus another 214 miles. That pot of money, however, can only be used in the Rio Grande Valley, according to the bill Congress passed approving those funds and was only expected to be used for about 55 miles of steel slat fencing.
The Army Corps of Engineers is not ready to start looking at how to spend the $8 billion that Trump is hoping to spend on the wall, a representative told the Washington Examiner last week. The corps is considering how to spend money Congress gave DHS last fiscal year and has not requested bids from the private sector because it's still in the procurement process.
Replacement and new wall projects have struggled to get underway in Trump's first two years in office. Just 35 miles of wall have gone up in that time. The Army Corps of Engineers has procured around 75 miles but has not awarded $900 million for the project of the $1.35 billion that was in the 2018 omnibus.
DHS officials and several lawmakers are expected to visit the site of his border wall construction site in Arizona next week.
Remarks: I hope they let Mr. Fisher do it, and since they gave Trump $1.375 in that agreement that prevented the second government shutdown, I say, let the wall BEGIN!
