In California, the Dems picked off a number of seats and including Republican stronghold, Orange County thanks to Mr. Trump.
Thank you, Donald. Just keep doing what you're doing, and in 2020 America truly will be great again thanks to all your winning.
In California, you have to sign to get your ballot, and they check the signature just like they do mail in ballots
Incorrect. Your signature is required only when you register to Vote and or on-line. On Voting day, you can walk into a Polling station and point to "your" name and yes, you may simply make a mark next to said name.
That would be the answer to Trump's claim of millions of illegal votes and why the "much loved and adored HC on this site" won the popular vote.
She certainly won in California.
In California, you have to sign to get your ballot, and they check the signature just like they do mail in ballots
Incorrect. Your signature is required only when you register to Vote and or on-line. On Voting day, you can walk into a Polling station and point to "your" name and yes, you may simply make a mark next to said name.
I've had to sign the book next to my name each and every time I've voted for the last 30+ years in California, and that includes 3 different counties. My wife is a permanent mail in voter and where her name is in the book it says "mail in voter" where she would have to sign. Not sure which county you tried to vote in California, but if you didn't sign the book your vote might not have been counted.
In California, you have to sign to get your ballot, and they check the signature just like they do mail in ballots
Incorrect. Your signature is required only when you register to Vote and or on-line. On Voting day, you can walk into a Polling station and point to "your" name and yes, you may simply make a mark next to said name.
That would be the answer to Trump's claim of millions of illegal votes and why the "much loved and adored HC on this site" won the popular vote.
She certainly won in California.
Actually she won the popular vote in the United States. In spite of winning the electoral college, that is something that Trump still resents & attempts to attribute to fraud and illegals...without any proof to support his swollen ego. He sure does make a lot of claims that are factually proven to be false.
5,800 troops that Trump rushed to the border just ahead of the election in response to the caravan are now heading home, just as the caravan is expected to arrive.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/19/troops-us-mexico-border-come-home-1005510
5,800 troops that Trump rushed to the border just ahead of the election in response to the caravan are now heading home, just as the caravan is expected to arrive.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/19/troops-us-mexico-border-come-home-1005510/blockquote >
What a waste of taxpayer money he orchestrated all for show.
He pulls stunts to lure the base. They can't see through his facade. Thick or thin they'll be with him. In the end, he'll lose, and they'll be trying to figure out why.
5,800 troops that Trump rushed to the border just ahead of the election in response to the caravan are now heading home, just as the caravan is expected to arrive.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/19/troops-us-mexico-border-come-home-1005510/blockquote >
What a waste of taxpayer money he orchestrated all for show.
He pulls stunts to lure the base. They can't see through his facade. Thick or thin they'll be with him. In the end, he'll lose, and they'll be trying to figure out why.
I'm sure The Cult of Trump members will be along soon to defend this.
Actually she won the popular vote in the United States.
Not without California
I'm sure The Cult of Trump members will be along soon to defend this.
It is truly weird how they react to criticism of Trump as if they are extensions of the Master's Will and it is criticism of themselves. Saw a recent poster here bellyaching how folks think he is a POS if he likes the prez. Strange how they identify so completely with their idol. Creepsville.
Actually she won the popular vote in the United States.
Not without California
Last I checked California was part of the USA. Since California provides significant more tax revenue to the fedeal government then it gets back, it seems only fair the California should get a say in the election as well. After all, California already get's the smallest per capita representation in the senate than any other state. The Electoral College is already unfair to the high population states. Seems like we should award electoral votes based on tax contribution to the US coffers. Seems that would be a Republican thing to do.
The Electoral College is already unfair to the high population states.
Unfair? Are you kidding?...That was the whole idea; small population states would have very little representation otherwise.
The Electoral College is already unfair to the high population states.
Unfair? Are you kidding?...That was the whole idea; small population states would have very little representation otherwise.
Yes, I understand that was a compromise when they wrote the constitution, but as it is a California's population is greater than the population of the 21 least populous states combined. So California gets 2 senators and the 21 least populous states get 42 senators. That is quite a underrepresentation in the senate for California.
The Electoral College is already unfair to the high population states.
Unfair? Are you kidding?...That was the whole idea; small population states would have very little representation otherwise.
Yes, I understand that was a compromise when they wrote the constitution, but as it is a California's population is greater than the population of the 21 least populous states combined. So California gets 2 senators and the 21 least populous states get 42 senators. That is quite a underrepresentation in the senate for California.
After living there for the better part of my life, I am elated that politics in California does not dictate what happens in the rest of the Union.
The Electoral College is already unfair to the high population states.
Unfair? Are you kidding?...That was the whole idea; small population states would have very little representation otherwise.
Yes, I understand that was a compromise when they wrote the constitution, but as it is a California's population is greater than the population of the 21 least populous states combined. So California gets 2 senators and the 21 least populous states get 42 senators. That is quite a underrepresentation in the senate for California.
After living there for the better part of my life, I am elated that politics in California does not dictate what happens in the rest of the Union.
Sorry you don't appreciate democracy. Don't worry, it seems like we are getting closer to totalitarian rule all the time.
The Electoral College is already unfair to the high population states.
Unfair? Are you kidding?...That was the whole idea; small population states would have very little representation otherwise.
Yes, I understand that was a compromise when they wrote the constitution, but as it is a California's population is greater than the population of the 21 least populous states combined. So California gets 2 senators and the 21 least populous states get 42 senators. That is quite a underrepresentation in the senate for California.
After living there for the better part of my life, I am elated that politics in California does not dictate what happens in the rest of the Union.
Sorry you don't appreciate democracy. Don't worry, it seems like we are getting closer to totalitarian rule all the time.
Sorry you don't appreciate democracy
Not applicable, of course I do. One State should not dictate policy, ever.
Sorry you don't appreciate democracy
Not applicable, of course I do. One State should not dictate policy, ever.
Of course not, but if "All Men are Created Equal," then every citizen should have equal representation. You may be happy that each citizen of Wyoming gets a greater say as to who is president or who sits on the Supreme Court than a citizen of NY or CA, but that goes against one of the founding principles of this nation. And when the constitution was ratified we didn't exactly have the massive variations in population between states that we do now.
Sorry you don't appreciate democracy
Not applicable, of course I do. One State should not dictate policy, ever.
Of course not, but if "All Men are Created Equal," then every citizen should have equal representation.
They currently do, it is referred to as participation in the system, or Voting
You may be happy that each citizen of Wyoming gets a greater say as to who is president or who sits on the Supreme Court than a citizen of NY or CA, but that goes against one of the founding principles of this nation. And when the constitution was ratified we didn't exactly have the massive variations in population between states that we do now.
If you think the population of Wyoming is small now, imagine it in 1890 at the time of Statehood...
California currently has 55 Electoral votes and Montana has THREE. Now tell me how Montana and its voters have a bigger say than California?... C'mon man, the Fathers got it right, otherwise this would be the United States of Caliyork.
California currently has 55 Electoral votes and Montana has THREE. Now tell me how Montana and its voters have a bigger say than California?... C'mon man, the Fathers got it right, otherwise this would be the United States of Caliyork.
What he's referring to is the ratio of residents:electoral votes. States with smaller populations sometimes carry more electoral power because of the 3 electoral minimum.
Population:electoral votes
CA 39M:55 = means 1 electoral vote represents 709K people in California.
WY 579K:3 = means 1 electoral vote represents 193K people in Wyoming.
Therefore, a vote cast in Wyoming carries more than 3 times the weight of a vote cast in California for a national election.
[Edited on 11/20/2018 by porkchopbob]
California currently has 55 Electoral votes and Montana has THREE. Now tell me how Montana and its voters have a bigger say than California?... C'mon man, the Fathers got it right, otherwise this would be the United States of Caliyork.
What he's referring to is the ratio of residents:electoral votes. States with smaller populations sometimes carry more electoral power because of the 3 electoral minimum.
Population:electoral votes
CA 39M:55 = means 1 electoral vote represents 709K people in California.
WY 579K:3 = means 1 electoral vote represents 193K people in Wyoming.Therefore, a vote cast in Wyoming carries more than 3 times the weight of a vote cast in California for a national election.
Even Trump called the Electoral College unfair, until of course it benefited him.
Even Trump called the Electoral College unfair, until of course it benefited him.
The next time a Presidential Election hinges on the Electoral College and the Democratic Candidate wins as a result....
.....All lips will be sealed
The definition of a good compromise is that both sides feel they got short changed. Maybe the founding fathers knew what they were doing.
The next time a Presidential Election hinges on the Electoral College and the Democratic Candidate wins as a result....
.....All lips will be sealed
When Bush won by electoral in 2000 there wasn't anything like this from Gore (who I can't stand btw):
Hillary Clinton didn't bash the electoral college when Trump got elected.
If it happens again Trump will about face and go right back to whining like he did when Obama won both electoral and popular. "THE LOSER ONE"! LOL
[Edited on 11/20/2018 by BrerRabbit]
It is truly weird how they react to criticism of Trump as if they are extensions of the Master's Will and it is criticism of themselves. Saw a recent poster here bellyaching how folks think he is a POS if he likes the prez.
x2. It’s very telling. I think Obama “fans” behaved the same way, but when you compare the character of each President.......sheesh! If you believe you relate to Obama, good for you. If you feel you relate to Trump, then I’m so sorry, and I hope you get they help you need.
The definition of a good compromise is that both sides feel they got short changed.
Excellent. To whom is this quote attributed?
Maybe the founding fathers knew what they were doing.
I certainly believe this.
I'm sure The Cult of Trump members will be along soon to defend this.
It is truly weird how they react to criticism of Trump as if they are extensions of the Master's Will and it is criticism of themselves. Saw a recent poster here bellyaching how folks think he is a POS if he likes the prez. Strange how they identify so completely with their idol. Creepsville.
That is so horrible but there were also remarks about the Washington Post reporter Jamal Kashoggi's killing that were troubling.
Democrats attack President Trump for defending the U.S. border.
When Obama did the same thing, the Democrats remained silent.
The Democrats now use hypocrisy instead of patriotism.
When hundreds of illegal migrants attempted to storm past the U.S. border on Sunday, border patrol agents engaged the mob — and when the crowd began hurling rocks and debris, authorities deployed tear gas.
The mainstream media immediately using the incident to attack President Donald Trump, accusing him of using inhumane tactics on women and children. Democratic lawmakers blasted the president as well, calling the border patrol’s actions “shameful” and “disgusting.”
So where were these complaints in 2013, when former President Barack Obama’s border patrol did the same exact thing?
“In 2013, during the Obama administration, Border Patrol agents reportedly used pepper spray to fend off a group of approximately 100 migrants who attempted to rush the same San Ysidro port of entry”.
Obama agents pepper-sprayed migrants: History challenges caravan response outrage
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/obama-agents-pepper-sprayed-migrants-history-challenges-caravan-response-outrage
Democrats are expressing outrage that U.S. border agents on Sunday shot rounds of tear gas at caravan migrants who threw rocks at law enforcement while trying to breach the U.S.-Mexico border. But critics hammering the Trump administration are glossing over a similar episode that occurred under then-President Barack Obama.
In 2013, during the Obama administration, Border Patrol agents reportedly used pepper spray to fend off a group of approximately 100 migrants who attempted to rush the same San Ysidro port of entry.
A San Diego Union-Tribune article at the time said agents fired "pepper balls" and used other “intermediate use-of-force devices” to repel the crowd. The migrants in that confrontation also reportedly threw rocks and bottles at U.S. authorities.
But with the national spotlight on Sunday's caravan clash at San Ysidro, Democrats are lashing out at the Trump administration.
TRUMP TELLS MEXICO TO SHIP MIGRANTS HOME OR SEE BORDER PERMANENTLY CLOSED
In a tweet directed at the president on Monday, New York Democratic Rep. Carolyn Maloney said, “Migrants at our border are looking for help. Yet, instead of greeting them w understanding, you deploy tear gas. Shameful & disgusting.”
New York Democratic Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand called the use of tear gas “horrendous.”
“We must hold those responsible accountable,” Gillibrand tweeted. “Children who approach our country looking for asylum should be welcomed with open arms, not with tear gas.”
Ben Rhodes, the former Obama administration adviser, tweeted: “It’s wrong to gas women and children and the elderly. That shouldn’t be a partisan view, nor should that be uncomfortable to ‘the men and women in duty.’”
Rhodes, in particular, faced online pushback over his comments from conservatives, who referenced the 2013 episode during the Obama years.
“Ben Rhodes was part of an administration that did the very same exact thing,” conservative commentator Stephen Miller said.
The Trump administration, meanwhile, defended the response on Sunday. Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen said in a statement some migrants "attempted to breach legacy fence infrastructure along the border and sought to harm [U.S. Customs and Border Protection] personnel by throwing projectiles at them.”
The criticism from Democrats follows other examples of liberals blasting Trump for things that also happened in prior administrations, including sending troops to the border, as Obama did in 2010.
In May, liberal activists and journalists also incorrectly shared pictures of children sleeping in enclosed cages from 2014 to take a swipe at the Trump administration and its zero-tolerance policy toward parents and children crossing the border illegally. Those photos were taken during the Obama administration.
The latest confrontation with caravan members has captured lawmakers' attention. The clash Sunday came as hundreds of migrants from a caravan that originated in Central American pushed past Mexican riot police and rushed the border at the port of entry in San Ysidro.
HUNDREDS OF MIGRANTS TRY RUSHING TOWARD CALIFORNIA PORT OF ENTRY, AS TRUMP THREATENS TO CLOSE ENTIRE BORDER
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On Monday, Trump offered Mexico some advice on deporting migrants massed in Tijuana and threatening to storm the U.S., telling the neighboring nation in a tweet to send them “back to their countries” by plane or by bus – or face a permanent closure of the border.
HOMELAND SECURITY ARRESTS ABOUT 50 MIGRANTS WHO CROSSED US BORDER, OFFICIAL SAYS
Trump’s tweet followed a vow from Mexico to deport migrants who tried to illegally enter the U.S. The Trump administration has said asylum claims from members of a series of caravans originating in Central America must be processed outside the U.S., and that all those entering illegally will be denied. A federal judge has at least temporarily ruled against the policy, but the administration has taken steps to harden the border.
“Mexico should move the flag waving Migrants, many of whom are stone cold criminals, back to their countries,” Trump tweeted early Monday morning. “Do it by plane, do it by bus, do it anyway you want, but they are NOT coming into the U.S.A. We will close the Border permanently if need be. Congress, fund the WALL!”
It's off topic but it's the WP
Current Headline
"7 nooses found by Mississippi Capitol before Senate runoff"
60-something years on, the Phil Ochs song "Here's To The State of Mississippi" continues to be right -- racist slimeballs continue to grow out from under rocks, and fester there
why would immigrants want anything to do w/the USA with Hitler-like stuff like that, mass shootings etc, still devouring the soul of America
on topic, don't know why the immigration problem is so difficult
In 2013, during the Obama administration, Border Patrol agents reportedly used pepper spray to fend off a group of approximately 100 migrants who attempted to rush the same San Ysidro port of entry.
Sounds like the Obama admin was enforcing border security. Then why are you always screeching how Obama was against a secure border?
[Edited on 11/27/2018 by BrerRabbit]
In 2013, during the Obama administration, Border Patrol agents reportedly used pepper spray to fend off a group of approximately 100 migrants who attempted to rush the same San Ysidro port of entry.
Sounds like the Obama admin was enforcing border security. Then why are you always screeching how Obama was against a secure border?
I guess the point is that both Administrations have done it. So, you are either for it, or against it.
Where do you stand?
