How can this possibly be non-confrontational?....
Calm and civil, you didn't like that either.
Calm and Civil is always the preferred option. I am wondering how this statement "This caravan thing is an organized invading force that has declared illegal intent and as such is an army of war"...
....reflects calm & civil?
Many of the young men in the caravan are carrying the Guatemalan and Honduran flags. If they are so proud of their countries, why don’t they stay and fight?
You don’t understand why Central Americans would want to immigrate to the US? Yikes!
Why are they not waving U.S. Flags? According to your logic, they wish to emigrate here and work, take advantage of opportunity. On a World stage, would not more sympathy be garnered by showing a Love and respect for a Culture you are attempting to embrace?
NO!..They are proud of their homelands!...That is exactly why they are leaving.....
Hilarious
Well, sorry to say this will probably do a lot to strengthen the argument that a Wall is absolutely necessary.
Serious question, have you ever spoken to a Mexican who crossed into the US illegally about this proposed idea?
But, the leftists will be there with their signs claiming ALL of these people are fleeing abusive Gov'ts and want nothing more than an opportunity to escape poverty and a cruel regime.
No, not all Democrats and “leftists” will be saying that, but go ahead and childishly believe all people in a political party are exactly the same.
Funny how all of these extremely poor individuals have found the resources to walk how far? (Approx 1400 miles) with food, clothing, water, shelter being supplied by whom?
Because they can find the resources on this particular journey, then there must be plenty of resources and a safe environment 24/7/365? Surely you aren’t suggesting such a thing.
On a World stage, would not more sympathy be garnered by showing a Love and respect for a Culture you are attempting to embrace?
NO!..They are proud of their homelands!...That is exactly why they are leaving.....
See it as you wish, but I’ve read that many of them are trying to raise awareness about their countries’ issues, hence the flags. You choose to be cynical and that’s your right......and character.
[Edited on 10/23/2018 by BoytonBrother]
Ok, I see your complaint, the "army of war" , thx. Meaning a declared organized intent . I guess it does sound inflammatory - used it to define it as opposed to individual border crossing , which is not a declared act of conflict, and clarify the nature of the force. This is a political action.
Nonviolent Civil Disobedience is considered a form of warfare, it is studied at West Point, you know that? It is harder to manage civil disobedience than armed conflict, as the cost in trust to a govt that cuts down unarmed people is heavier than physical losses. Look at the impact of a few deaths at Kent State - a crushing defeat for the armed retaliation.
[Edited on 10/23/2018 by BrerRabbit]
Funny how all of these extremely poor individuals have found the resources to walk how far? (Approx 1400 miles) with food, clothing, water, shelter being supplied by whom?
Because they can find the resources on this particular journey, then there must be plenty of resources and a safe environment 24/7/365? Surely you aren’t suggesting such a thing.
That, is exactly what I am suggesting.
We are not the solution to the 3rd world's problems.
How much of your paycheck are you willing to donate to this plight on a regular basis? Surely, one donation will not fix this. See, this is the left in a nutshell, an expectation that this issue needs to be addressed and that everyone here must share in that burden. To decline is to be Racist, there can be NO other reason.
I refuse. You however, can donate all you want.
Ok, I see your complaint, the "army of war" , thx. Meaning a declared organized intent . I guess it does sound inflammatory - used it to define it as opposed to individual border crossing , which is not a declared act of conflict, and clarify the nature of the force.
Nonviolent Civil Disobedience is considered a form of warfare, it is studied at West Point, you know that? It is harder to manage civil disobedience than armed conflict, as the cost in trust to a govt that cuts down unarmed people is heavier than physical losses. Look at the impact of a few deaths at Kent State - a crushing defeat for the armed retaliation.
Fair, thoughtful and appreciated, Thanks for expounding and enjoy the day.
[quote[See, this is the left in a nutshell, an expectation that this issue needs to be addressed and that everyone here must share in that burden. To decline is to be Racist
And there it is. BIGVictim of the left strikes again. So burdened and unfairly judged!!!!!!!! Never about anything else.
So burdened
Only through my Tax$$ funding Illegal Immigrants
Only through my Tax$$ funding Illegal Immigrants
We can’t control where our tax dollars go, and we’ll all always be paying for it - why feel burdened by it?
Only through my Tax$$ funding Illegal Immigrants
We can’t control where our tax dollars go, and we’ll all always be paying for it - why feel burdened by it?
Because we have HOMELESS VETERANS sleeping in the streets.
Priorities
Because we have HOMELESS VETERANS sleeping in the streets.
Priorities
How is this your financial burden?
Because we have HOMELESS VETERANS sleeping in the streets.
Priorities
How is this your financial burden?
Go away, please
OK, you have forced my hand and now, I must use a disparaging, belittling phrase.
You are a child. That makes twice in one day I have been mean, having called you a Clown and a Child.
How will you respond?, because I know you can not walk away.
[quoteGo away, please
OK, you have forced my hand and now, I must use a disparaging, belittling phrase.
You are a child. That makes twice in one day I have been mean, having called you a Clown and a Child.
How will you respond?, because I know you can not walk away.
Holy meltdown! LOL! Look at your reaction to “how is it your financial burden”. You are by far the most sensitive person in the Whipping Post.
If I respond to your name-calling, it means “I can’t walk away.”.....so bizarre. Why can’t you handle simple questioning without losing your cool?
You disparage people whenever you feel like it, and then meltdown the second someone gives it right back to you.
Because we have HOMELESS VETERANS sleeping in the streets.
Priorities
How is this your financial burden?
Go away, please
OK, you have forced my hand and now, I must use a disparaging, belittling phrase.
You are a child. That makes twice in one day I have been mean, having called you a Clown and a Child.
How will you respond?, because I know you can not walk away.
__________________________________________________________
You are trying to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.
His childish reactions fail to mature.[Edited on 10/23/2018 by Muleman1994]
and then meltdown the second someone gives it right back to you.
"Meltdown" lol
What a Clown
If we want them to stop coming, there has to be a real deterrant.
We could put them on a big boat and send them to Cuba and tell them this is our thank you for the Marielita boat lift refugees they sent us.
President Trump is doing exactly what both Obama and Clinton supported. Schumer also made similar comments.
The difference is that only President Trump is doing something about it where Obama and Clinton failed to act:
"We are a generous and welcoming people here in the United States," But those who enter the country illegally and those who employ them disrespect the rule of law and they are showing disregard for those who are following the law. We simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented, unchecked, and circumventing the line of people who are waiting patiently, diligently and lawfully to become immigrants into this country."
- Obama
"All Americans ... are rightly disturbed by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country," The jobs they hold might otherwise be held by citizens or legal immigrants. The public service they use impose burdens on our taxpayers. That's why our administration has moved aggressively to secure our borders more by hiring a record number of new border guards, by deporting twice as many criminal aliens as ever before, by cracking down on illegal hiring, by barring welfare benefits to illegal aliens."
"We are a nation of immigrants," Clinton added. "But we are also a nation of laws. It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years, and we must do more to stop it."
- Clinton
Videos included:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-cites-2005-obama-remarks-to-support-immigration-policy
The difference is that only President Trump is doing something about it where Obama and Clinton failed to act:
False.
Every administration has deported illegal immigrants, with record numbers during Obama's first term. The difference is Trump has made a lot of fools believe that wasn't happening and vilified immigrants and refugees.
The difference is that only President Trump is doing something about it where Obama and Clinton failed to act:
False.
Every administration has deported illegal immigrants, with record numbers during Obama's first term. The difference is Trump has made a lot of fools believe that wasn't happening and vilified immigrants and refugees.
Liar.
President Trump has never "vilified immigrants and refugees".
He has called out illegal aliens just as Obama and Clinton have done.
You would benefit by getting informed and stop lying.
The difference is that only President Trump is doing something about it where Obama and Clinton failed to act:
False.
Every administration has deported illegal immigrants, with record numbers during Obama's first term. The difference is Trump has made a lot of fools believe that wasn't happening and vilified immigrants and refugees.
Liar.
President Trump has never "vilified immigrants and refugees".
He has called out illegal aliens just as Obama and Clinton have done.You would benefit by getting informed and stop lying.
Like I said, there are a lot of fools Trump has duped, count yourself among them if you like. Neither Obama, Clinton, nor Bush, ever called illegal immigrants "animals" or told people they'd be "overrun" by "violent" illegal immigrants.
The difference is that only President Trump is doing something about it where Obama and Clinton failed to act:
False.
Every administration has deported illegal immigrants, with record numbers during Obama's first term. The difference is Trump has made a lot of fools believe that wasn't happening and vilified immigrants and refugees.
😮 You can’t use facts here. No no, you’ve got to make one up that’s better like “ And Obama bought em cars with money donated to the Clinton Foundation by the devil”
President Trump is doing exactly what both Obama and Clinton supported.
Interesting. So then Trump and his supporters are backing an Obama and Clinton policy? Why would Trump copy a liberal left-wing policy?
Every administration has deported illegal immigrants
Yeah, almost like an obligated Presidential/Congressional declaration of, "Look we did our part", when in truth the problem simply lies in two places. Mexico's corrupt Gov't absolutely refuses to use its resources in a manner that will benefit its own citizens. 2) The United States absolutely refuses to legislate and prosecute companies that hire Illegal Immigrants. Stop dangling the carrot and hold Mexico accountable. We have the means to force them to move into the 21st century while at the same time fining the Hell out of any industry entangled in the Federal net.
The difference is that only President Trump is doing something about it where Obama and Clinton failed to act:
False.
Every administration has deported illegal immigrants, with record numbers during Obama's first term. The difference is Trump has made a lot of fools believe that wasn't happening and vilified immigrants and refugees.
Liar.
President Trump has never "vilified immigrants and refugees".
He has called out illegal aliens just as Obama and Clinton have done.You would benefit by getting informed and stop lying.
Like I said, there are a lot of fools Trump has duped, count yourself among them if you like. Neither Obama, Clinton, nor Bush, ever called illegal immigrants "animals" or told people they'd be "overrun" by "violent" illegal immigrants.
Try again son.
President Trump did not call illegal immigrants "animals". That lie was the lefties and the corrupt liberal media.
He called the MS-13 gang members, the rapists and killers supported by the Democrats, animals.
This caravan thing is an organized invading force that has declared illegal intent and as such is an army of war. Stop it with a measure of force fitting the force it brings. No shooting.
This is not the same as people privately sneaking across in small groups, it is an open declaration of threat, and an announcement to the world of defiance of US sovereignty. We need to stop this wave, easy enough, in a calm and civil fashion.
[Edited on 10/23/2018 by BrerRabbit]
There are some who believe Americans are financing this caravan!
Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton – who heads his government watchdog group that has a team in Guatemala looking into the suspicious illegal migration – is calling on President Donald Trump to launch a criminal investigation to find the American roots of the mass exodus that originated in Honduras.
U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Spokesman Tyler Houlton verified that the caravan is riddled with numerous gang members and males with Middle Eastern and Asian origins.
The conservative Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernández contended that migrants are being manipulated by the left to destabilize his country, and Vice President Mike Pence told The Washington Post that the Honduran leader revealed to him that Venezuela’s left-wing government was financing the caravan.
REMARKS: Groups organized to invade another country are not just mild mannered poor people seeking a better life. There are probably a bunch of them in the caravan, but there seems to be more sinister motives and others hiding behind that. Invasions must not be allowed. Other countries do not allow it and we must not either.
Anyone notice how quite the Democrats have been on the illegal alien invasion (they call it a caravan) headed here?
Maybe they remember what Obama, Clinton and Schumer told them about the rule of law and that we must protect our country.
Anyone notice how quite the Democrats have been
How quite what?
LOL
The simple end to the "immigration" problem is to prevent business from profiting
from this labor pool.
Since that is, of course, not allowed, business is more than happy
to have taxpayers foot the bill (haw haw haw) for the importation
of cheap labor.
After all, nobody is coming here if there are no jobs.
And Americans' wages are essentially stagnant for low paid work.
End of story.
[Edited on 10/25/2018 by WaitinForRain]
