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BoytonBrother
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Because again, those people have no right to be here and if they hadn't violated our immigration law in the first place, the crime or accident or what-have-you would never have occurred.

if he had a temporary 6-month visa, then he wouldn’t have driven drunk that day?

[Edited on 2/14/2018 by BoytonBrother]


 
Posted : February 14, 2018 8:42 am
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Yes and no. I think I would foster more resentment if I was injured or lost a friend or family member at the hands of an illegal alien. I'm not generally the forgiving type, I'm robbed, my love one is killed - I want maximum punishments possible to come down on those people regardless of who they are or where they came from. It would however certainly bother me more if that was an illegal who had no business being here that committed the act. Your mileage, or anyone else's may very.

You say, take that illegal alien and make them a 6 month visa holder, thereby making them legal, and the event may still have happened. Well, maybe that illegal would never have qualified or been granted the visa. Or if so, maybe work placement or employer sponsorship would've put them in a different part of the country. It is like anything else. Change one variable, anything, it changes the whole circumstance and outcome.

What are we doing here, we are looking broadly at thing that happen, or that shouldn't happen. Are there something like 43 murders in the US per day (2015 15,696 / 365), or something like 28 deaths from DUI per day (2015 10,265 / 365). If we aren't directly impacted by those events, what do we do? We generalize, we discuss outside-looking-in, we form opinions, we talk about it with people we know or on an internet forum.

I'll assume or simply concede, that if you broke the numbers down, the overall % of those events occur at a smaller rate at the hands of an illegal immigrant, vs a legal immigrant vs that of a natural US citizen. But crimes and accidents are going to happen here - I accept that as a given. We have people here that want to commit those crimes or put themselves in situations to cause accidents. It is unfortunate, but it happens. What I will not accept having incrementally more of it caused by people who shouldn't be here.


 
Posted : February 14, 2018 8:54 am
BoytonBrother
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You say, take that illegal alien and make them a 6 month visa holder, thereby making them legal, and the event may still have happened. Well, maybe that illegal would never have qualified or been granted the visa. Or if so, maybe work placement or employer sponsorship would've put them in a different part of the country. It is like anything else. Change one variable, anything, it changes the whole circumstance and outcome.

If their status affects how you interpret the crime, no problem. But our courts do not. This is not an immigration story, but I surely understand your position.


 
Posted : February 14, 2018 8:59 am
BrerRabbit
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That's different, the left made that guy drive his car into the crowd.


 
Posted : February 14, 2018 12:43 pm
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You say, take that illegal alien and make them a 6 month visa holder, thereby making them legal, and the event may still have happened.

But it did happen and he was here Illegally... For the third &u$%@%g time

If this does not speak directly to the blatant disrespect for the very first Law of the land he encountered, I do not know what does.

He also attempted to flee the scene. This "event" also resulted in a Death.

Perhaps it is as easy to cross the Border Illegally as it is to acquire a semi-automatic rifle?


 
Posted : February 14, 2018 3:02 pm
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