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BIGV
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There you go!...Either racism, gender or white supremacy, the main liberal places to place the blame for almost everything.

It would be nice to come to this page and read a thread that doesn’t include you crying about liberals and making it about yourself. Is this all you have to offer the site? Trolling? It shocks me that you haven’t been playpenned.

Are there any intelligent conservatives that are interested in discussion?

Please explain how it is different from reading about everything being Trump's fault?...and the constant Nazi referrals...You can dish it out but can't take it?

I'm just expressing an opinion that differs from yours and you're not used to it.


 
Posted : August 7, 2019 11:17 am
2112
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Two shootings, both white, one right, one fringe left .
To fix this it needs help from both sides of the isle. Let go of 2016 election result and get to work!

I agree, but only one side has any interest in doing anything...and quite honestly there are many Democrats who also have no interest in doing anything. There are a lot of single issue voters out there, and gun rights is one of those single issues.

There may be some Democrats not willing to go far enough, but please name all of the gun violence solutions that Republicans have attempted that have been blocked by Democrats. That's not how it works.

On the surface it appears as though Democrats feel the "solution" will come with the "not being idle" that "doing something" has the effect of better than "doing nothing" and in this case "Doing something" always seems to evolve around legislation... The change has to be societal, the paradigm has to change and I feel it must start in the family framework...Discussion at the dinner table, whatever, but the answer is NOT more laws, just to give the impression that something is being done.

Interesting that you seem to feel that Trump and the right's rhetoric has no affect on any of these mass shootings, yet discussions around the dinner table is the solution. Really? Pretty sure some of the discussions around the dinner table revolve around white supremacist ideas that lead to these shootings...although you have stated in many threads that being exposed to such environments does not lead to anything and every potential mass shooter shouldn't have been affected by toxic environments.

white supremacist ideas that lead to these shootings..

There you go!...Either racism, gender or white supremacy, the main liberal places to place the blame for almost everything.

So are you denying that some of these mass shootings are related to white supremacists ideas? Because it certainly seems that many are, including El Paso. To think otherwise is clearly ignoring all available facts. Why do you continue to get triggered when someone points out that white supremacists exist and are a problem?

Yet another leftist term "Triggered"...lol I refer to it as "responding"... "Facts"!...Too funny....

Ok, use the word responding...but I don't see a response. Do you deny that some of these shootings are related to white supremacists ideas? Do you not think white supremacists are a problem in today's America?


 
Posted : August 7, 2019 11:28 am
BIGV
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Two shootings, both white, one right, one fringe left .
To fix this it needs help from both sides of the isle. Let go of 2016 election result and get to work!

I agree, but only one side has any interest in doing anything...and quite honestly there are many Democrats who also have no interest in doing anything. There are a lot of single issue voters out there, and gun rights is one of those single issues.

There may be some Democrats not willing to go far enough, but please name all of the gun violence solutions that Republicans have attempted that have been blocked by Democrats. That's not how it works.

On the surface it appears as though Democrats feel the "solution" will come with the "not being idle" that "doing something" has the effect of better than "doing nothing" and in this case "Doing something" always seems to evolve around legislation... The change has to be societal, the paradigm has to change and I feel it must start in the family framework...Discussion at the dinner table, whatever, but the answer is NOT more laws, just to give the impression that something is being done.

Interesting that you seem to feel that Trump and the right's rhetoric has no affect on any of these mass shootings, yet discussions around the dinner table is the solution. Really? Pretty sure some of the discussions around the dinner table revolve around white supremacist ideas that lead to these shootings...although you have stated in many threads that being exposed to such environments does not lead to anything and every potential mass shooter shouldn't have been affected by toxic environments.

white supremacist ideas that lead to these shootings..

There you go!...Either racism, gender or white supremacy, the main liberal places to place the blame for almost everything.

So are you denying that some of these mass shootings are related to white supremacists ideas? Because it certainly seems that many are, including El Paso. To think otherwise is clearly ignoring all available facts. Why do you continue to get triggered when someone points out that white supremacists exist and are a problem?

Yet another leftist term "Triggered"...lol I refer to it as "responding"... "Facts"!...Too funny....

Ok, use the word responding...but I don't see a response. Do you deny that some of these shootings are related to white supremacists ideas? Do you not think white supremacists are a problem in today's America?

You've labeled it as "White Supremacist" in nature or root; I abhor killing with any label, I am of the opinion that it has become all to easy for the media to attach a label to all things that don't fit the agenda. Speak up against AOC?..it's because she is a woman. Don't like Kamala Harris?..It's because she is a woman of color. Support President Trump?..You are a racist. Are you a Conservative?...You must be an old white guy. Think there's an issue at the border?..You hate brown people. IMHO. "White supremacy" is a media contrived terminology, so NO I don't feel it's a "Problem" any more than any other time some innocent sole loses their life due to violent crime...We have a "Problem" in Chicago where Black on Black Murder is absolutely a "problem"...When was the last time that issue was addressed here?....Every time someone in this country is shot down in cold blood it is a "problem"...We are all Americans, why the need to label everything?


 
Posted : August 7, 2019 11:51 am
Bhawk
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"White supremacy" is a media contrived terminology

Is this a real thought typed by a lucid person?


 
Posted : August 7, 2019 12:39 pm
MartinD28
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"White supremacy" is a media contrived terminology

Is this a real thought typed by a lucid person?

Bhawk,

Let me give you an idea where that might have come from; certainly very similar. FOX of course.

Tucker Carlson wrongly tells his viewers the country's white supremacy problem 'is a hoax'

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/07/media/tucker-carlson-white-supremacy-reliable-sources/index.html


 
Posted : August 7, 2019 12:45 pm
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Before I answer, are you aware that you acknowledge to behave the same way as the people you hate?

While I express "Hatred" for no one and have never stated that, I am highly entertained by the hypocrisy... and yes I will acknowledge there is little difference between our behaviors, we both continue to point out what we see as faults in one another's political beliefs.


 
Posted : August 7, 2019 1:21 pm
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Two shootings, both white, one right, one fringe left .
To fix this it needs help from both sides of the isle. Let go of 2016 election result and get to work!

I agree, but only one side has any interest in doing anything...and quite honestly there are many Democrats who also have no interest in doing anything. There are a lot of single issue voters out there, and gun rights is one of those single issues.

There may be some Democrats not willing to go far enough, but please name all of the gun violence solutions that Republicans have attempted that have been blocked by Democrats. That's not how it works.

On the surface it appears as though Democrats feel the "solution" will come with the "not being idle" that "doing something" has the effect of better than "doing nothing" and in this case "Doing something" always seems to evolve around legislation... The change has to be societal, the paradigm has to change and I feel it must start in the family framework...Discussion at the dinner table, whatever, but the answer is NOT more laws, just to give the impression that something is being done.

Interesting that you seem to feel that Trump and the right's rhetoric has no affect on any of these mass shootings, yet discussions around the dinner table is the solution. Really? Pretty sure some of the discussions around the dinner table revolve around white supremacist ideas that lead to these shootings...although you have stated in many threads that being exposed to such environments does not lead to anything and every potential mass shooter shouldn't have been affected by toxic environments.

white supremacist ideas that lead to these shootings..

There you go!...Either racism, gender or white supremacy, the main liberal places to place the blame for almost everything.

So are you denying that some of these mass shootings are related to white supremacists ideas? Because it certainly seems that many are, including El Paso. To think otherwise is clearly ignoring all available facts. Why do you continue to get triggered when someone points out that white supremacists exist and are a problem?

Yet another leftist term "Triggered"...lol I refer to it as "responding"... "Facts"!...Too funny....

Ok, use the word responding...but I don't see a response. Do you deny that some of these shootings are related to white supremacists ideas? Do you not think white supremacists are a problem in today's America?

You've labeled it as "White Supremacist" in nature or root; I abhor killing with any label, I am of the opinion that it has become all to easy for the media to attach a label to all things that don't fit the agenda. Speak up against AOC?..it's because she is a woman. Don't like Kamala Harris?..It's because she is a woman of color. Support President Trump?..You are a racist. Are you a Conservative?...You must be an old white guy. Think there's an issue at the border?..You hate brown people. IMHO. "White supremacy" is a media contrived terminology, so NO I don't feel it's a "Problem" any more than any other time some innocent sole loses their life due to violent crime...We have a "Problem" in Chicago where Black on Black Murder is absolutely a "problem"...When was the last time that issue was addressed here?....Every time someone in this country is shot down in cold blood it is a "problem"...We are all Americans, why the need to label everything?

Now we are all American? What about sending them back...never mind them actually being American? I really enjoy reading opinions from those with beliefs different from my own, as it helps me understand others...even if I don't agree with them. But to call "white supremacy" a media derived label and stating it is not a problem is beyond my comprehension. I guess the KKK are just a misunderstood group who like to get together for friendly games of cards and wear white just because it's fashionable.


 
Posted : August 7, 2019 2:11 pm
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What about sending them back...

Don't agree with that at all

But to call "white supremacy" a media derived label and stating it is not a problem is beyond my comprehension. I guess the KKK are just a misunderstood group who like to get together for friendly games of cards and wear white just because it's fashionable.

I don't elevate these issues to the top of the Calendar like the left loves to do. What % of the population would you say is "White supremacist"?...


 
Posted : August 7, 2019 2:18 pm
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Every, single MAGA-hat wearing, Trump supporting, white person is a white supremacist thanks to the democratic party and main stream media news outlets.


 
Posted : August 7, 2019 3:05 pm
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Every, single MAGA-hat wearing, Trump supporting, white person is a white supremacist thanks to the democratic party and main stream media news outlets.

Or, at least the major newshacks want to label them that way, and the Dems gp WETSU on it.

Good observance Goob.


 
Posted : August 7, 2019 3:44 pm
BIGV
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Every, single MAGA-hat wearing, Trump supporting, white person is a white supremacist thanks to the democratic party and main stream media news outlets.

Agreed.

But to call "white supremacy" a media derived label and stating it is not a problem is beyond my comprehension.

?


 
Posted : August 7, 2019 3:50 pm
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What % of the population would you say is "White supremacist"?...

Cant give numbers but it is huge in the Pacific Northwest. Huge. It is normal here. In the rural you dont like it you gotta just keep your mouth shut about it. Oregon was founded as a Whites Only territory, had actual laws barring blacks and Asians from owning property. The only thing keeping the PNW blue is the urban liberal. Good god and that is just OR and WA, try Idaho!

I am from Arizona - same deal White Supremacy is the norm there too - when you get to know the state you realize the pockets of tolerance isolated to parts of Phoenix and Tucson, lalalands of imported CA and NY liberalism like Flagstaff Sedona Prescott. Nope get out to Kingman, Globe,Verde Valley, CORNVILLE is basically a Nazi colony, holy crap, Dewey, Prescott Valley, unreal man they are venom dripping White Supremacy rattlesnakes make you look like a blue-assed California pansy for even thinking they aren't there. Actual swastika iron cross nazis. I worked all over the real rural AZ, that is the word man: You think you are conservative nothing you are closer to the left you despise than you are to those you cant see.

[Edited on 8/8/2019 by BrerRabbit]


 
Posted : August 8, 2019 9:41 am
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What % of the population would you say is "White supremacist"?...

Cant give numbers but it is huge in the Pacific Northwest. Huge. It is normal here. In the rural you dont like it you gotta just keep your mouth shut about it. Oregon was founded as a Whites Only territory, had actual laws barring blacks and Asians from owning property. The only thing keeping the PNW blue is the urban liberal. Good god and that is just OR and WA, try Idaho!

I am from Arizona - same deal White Supremacy is the norm there too - when you get to know the state you realize the pockets of tolerance isolated to parts of Phoenix and Tucson, lalalands of imported CA and NY liberalism like Flagstaff Sedona Prescott. Nope get out to Kingman, Globe,Verde Valley, CORNVILLE is basically a Nazi colony, holy crap, Dewey, Prescott Valley, unreal man they are venom dripping White Supremacy rattlesnakes make you look like a blue-assed California pansy for even thinking they aren't there. Actual swastika iron cross nazis. I worked all over the real rural AZ, that is the word man: You think you are conservative nothing you are closer to the left you despise than you are to those you cant see.

[Edited on 8/8/2019 by BrerRabbit]

Just watched a PBS doc about the a$$holes that went to Charlottesville two years ago. It really did not look like something that was media-contrived. Americans who carry around Nazi flags? Whatever their numbers are, their abject stupidity makes them very dangerous.


 
Posted : August 9, 2019 4:36 am
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Every, single MAGA-hat wearing, Trump supporting, white person is a white supremacist thanks to the democratic party and main stream media news outlets.

Or, at least the major newshacks want to label them that way, and the Dems gp WETSU on it.

Good observance Goob.

I have said on here before that not all Trump supporters / Republicans / Conservatives are racists. I feel that many who are not racist may not be bothered by racism like they should be because they believe it does not affect them. That is unfortunate because it allows racism to remain and fester in our society.

What is troubling for me is the fact that the president of the United States seems to be keenly aware that racists are part of his coalition. He rarely disavows racists, and when he does, it is in a prepared statement like what he said on Monday. The white supremacist groups who believe they have his backing then dismiss the rebuke as something he was "forced" to say by others. The president should be able to say, "If you're a racist, I don't want your vote." He knows that would be really risky for him, so he doesn't do it.


 
Posted : August 9, 2019 5:09 am
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Anyone see the photo of Trump and wife with the baby whose parents were killed in El Paso? ...Both smiling, Trump giving the thumbs-up ...What is wrong with these people? ...Also, was posing for smiling photos with Dayton hospital staff... Any Trump defenders have any explanation for this?

Major sicko.


 
Posted : August 9, 2019 12:18 pm
MartinD28
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Anyone see the photo of Trump and wife with the baby whose parents were killed in El Paso? ...Both smiling, Trump giving the thumbs-up ...What is wrong with these people? ...Also, was posing for smiling photos with Dayton hospital staff... Any Trump defenders have any explanation for this?

Major sicko.

Everything about Trump and his behavior is about Trump. Talks about crowd size from a rally in El Paso even when he's in a hospital. You can't find a more compassionate leader 😛

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/08/08/trump-brags-about-crowd-size-during-el-paso-hospital-visit-nr-bts-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/this-week-in-politics/


 
Posted : August 9, 2019 12:57 pm
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Anyone see the photo of Trump and wife with the baby whose parents were killed in El Paso? ...Both smiling, Trump giving the thumbs-up ...What is wrong with these people? ...Also, was posing for smiling photos with Dayton hospital staff... Any Trump defenders have any explanation for this?

Major sicko.

Sadly, many citizens still love/believe him. America baby...


 
Posted : August 9, 2019 6:45 pm
BrerRabbit
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For sure weird photo - decided against posting it, too disturbing.


 
Posted : August 11, 2019 8:10 am
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