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Remember when Idiocracy was just a funny "what if" movie?

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Posted : July 19, 2024 11:55 am
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Posted by: @rusty

@porkchopbob I'm sure that the Evangelical Right are feeling proud and righteous that God spared their candidate by sacrificing a hard working husband and father instead.

I thought it was incredibly poor taste that people in the audience had bandaged their ear, dressing like him as if it's ComicCon.

 


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Posted : July 19, 2024 11:58 am
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@porkchopbob Vincent Van Trump!


 
Posted : July 19, 2024 12:02 pm
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Posted by: @robslob

Nikki Haley officially endorsed Trump.  CNN on Tuesday played video of some of her remarks during her Presidential campaign:  Trump is "toxic", "unhinged", "unfit to be President" among other things.  I HOPE that Biden and Harris are going to use some of this same video, real soon.

✌️what’s the old saying - “them’s just words Daveyboy, just words” - it’s just bluster/hot air that comes w/election season - candidates always sling it during political races - politicians aren’t exactly known for their spine🇺🇸

that said, agree they’d probably do well to roll that footage next month in Chicago 

Joe is still careening, I mean quarantining in the WH - guessing next test will be negative 

🇺🇸🎼w/disrespect toward none⚾️🎶🏀(rob, no KlayT!)

 


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Posted : July 19, 2024 10:16 pm
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Biden, or whoever the Dems select, better not ignore the high price of gasoline, food, rent etc and the BORDER!!! Got to do more than say" we had a bipartisan strong border bill but Trump shot it down so he can run on the border". That won't work!! 

If the Dems don't get those things front and center and ahead of "Trump is a threat to democracy and free elections" the Democrats are going to LOOSE!!! White House and the Congress. 

The latest poll numbers look terrible for the Democrats! 

And the politically correct jargon and pronouns need to go too! The people on the left pushing that stuff is apparently a minority. The MAJORITY doesn't want a trans selling Bud light and just yesterday John Deere and Tractor Supply DROPPED all politically correct speak and pronouns from their vocabulary!  And John Deere, founded in 1837 by Mr. Deere himself, said it has NEVER been part of their vocabulary and never will. The builder of the green and yellow machines are not supporting inclusion and pride day etc! 

Why? Apparently the white men out there drinking Bud Light, driving John Deere equipment and buying their feed and seed from tractor supply are more like John Wayne than the women on the View! 

Dems better not fly over those John Deere, John Wayne.Clint Eastwood types or they are going to LOOSE and D. J. Trump will be back in the White House. 


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Posted : July 19, 2024 10:48 pm
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This morning ( I usually watch CNN and NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt)  CNN is saying Biden is hurt, irritated and disappointed many Democrats want him to step aside. But insists he will NOT stop his run. 

And Biden issued an executive order a few months ago that has dramatically cut the number of crossings at the border. Hope he can bring that out clearly when he resumes campaigning. And CNN showed ICE rounding up for deportation several asylum seekers who crossed the border in recent months but they are wanted criminals in their own countries. And some who have committed crimes since being given a date to be interviewed for asylum are being deported. 

We are a country of immigrants but it turns out many Americans don't like the catch and release policy under Biden which he has apparently stopped in just the last month. We welcome all who want to become Americans but it must be done the right way. 

Maybe Joe can turn this around and he claims he has White House polls that show he will beat Trump. CNN has a poll now that shows Trump even with women, gaining on Biden with blacks and Hispanics and way ahead of Biden with men. 

Apparently part of the problem is most people think the price of gas, diesel, food, rent etc will return to the low costs we had under Trump before Covid struck. CNN says that is not likely to happen if Trump wins and Trump's poor handling of the Covid outbreak caused the economy to tank worse than it would have if a Democrat were in the White House. So reelecting Trump probably won't restore the much lower price of gasoline, food, rent etc we had under Trump the first time. 

Lastly according to CNN, Crooks had been not only checking out when and where Trump was campaigning but Biden too. 

Perhaps Crooks was out to shoot both Trump and Biden and Trump was the one who got close to where Crooks lived. 

Several people saw him crawling with rifle on the roof too and tried to alert police and one police officer climbed up and stuck his head above the roof line and Crooks pointed his rifle at the officer so he ducked back down. The question is why was Trump allowed to came out and start speaking. And the Secret Service is looking into that now. 

Out of control Border, crime and the higher cost of gas, food, rent etc are the top items in this election. CNN said Biden released one million gallons of gasoline from the reserve of the United States to help stabilize gas prices for summer driving. 


 
Posted : July 20, 2024 8:52 am
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🥱holy toledo

its a breaking story

“Tucker Carlson Told Trump To Pick JD Vance Or The Deep State Might Assassinate Him: Report”

again - I claim ignorance - I don’t know what the Deep State is - sounds like bad guys ie mafia, gangs, disenfranchised types, mayb foreign infiltrators

or I guess just the ordinary everyday types who no one has any reason to suspect, like this kid, the Charles Whitmans, Chuck Stuarts, Seung-Hui Chos, the Columbine/Sandy Hook students, the shooter in the Las Vegas concert massacre, the dentist in the Nova Scotia killing spree.…..& who-knows how many more 

also didn’t know Tucker Carlson had that kind of sway w/Trump - his advice nearly got Trump killed 

so yes, as many have said, am often ignorant when posting about this stuff

good morning 

 


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Posted : July 21, 2024 10:05 am
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According to CNN, Joe just announced via social media that he's out.  Stay tuned for deets.


 
Posted : July 21, 2024 2:03 pm
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Posted by: @robslob

As much as I hate to say it, and I never thought I would, I think Joe Biden should drop out of the race. When you consider that Biden will be 85 by the time his next term would end.......  Personally I would be 100% behind Kamala Harris. The Democratic Convention begins August 19,

🇺🇸it’s a wise decision imo - the president deserves a lot of credit for this - many will sing his praises, & rightfully

 


 
Posted : July 21, 2024 2:19 pm
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Yes CBS News just announced top Dems convinced Joe he will loose to Trump. 


 
Posted : July 21, 2024 2:39 pm
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MSNBC and Keith Oberman are suggesting the Trump attempted assassination was rigged and was an publicity stunt that went horribly wrong and got three innocent people shot and one of them killed. 

I don't see how that could be true. 


 
Posted : July 21, 2024 2:41 pm
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Robert, I have always given Keith Oberman, MSNBC and Tucker Carlson the same amount of credibility that I would to a drunken crackhead describing a traffic accident from 6 blocks away.  If Oberman's claim were to pan out - that would easily be the most evil plot ever cooked up in American politics.    Seems like some tall tales to me.  I hope the Dem's don't invest too heavily into this theory.  They don't need their own branch of Q-anon.  If this turns out to be real?  Just, wow!


 
Posted : July 21, 2024 2:53 pm
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Olbermann is pretty smug and insufferable, but at least he means well. Putin-loving Tucker Carlson is an example of how political spectrum is a circle - once you go too far in either direction you end up supporting dictators and abandoning truth. But I agree, I don't listen to the guys editorializing the news for me, regardless of the direction they spin it.

Anyways, Harris has me hopeful again. Had the primaries not been over by the time they got to me in 2020, I would have voted for her then. Her being out of the public eye during the Biden administration might be an advantage - she might be the palette cleanser everyone is looking for.


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Posted : July 21, 2024 3:27 pm
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As for Biden, I think it's pretty commendable of him to set aside his ego for the race. The last two Presidents who chose not to seek reelection, LBJ and Truman, did so due to low popularity at the time. Biden would still have wide party support had it not been for his age and stamina. No one wants to have their car keys taken from them, imagine having to admit you can't have your dream job anymore? But I think it's the most likely way his administration's work can continue.

 


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Posted : July 21, 2024 3:38 pm
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Thanks, Joe.  Per CNN, $$$ is now ROLLING in from big donors who were withholding funds unless Joe stepped down.  I think we Dems stand a fighting chance now and as I already said, I am 100% behind Kamala Harris.  I hope she is the choice.  Let me add that I think that she would completely tear Trump in half in a debate.  Biden should have but he's just too old and slow now.


 
Posted : July 21, 2024 4:19 pm
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Posted by: @robslob

Thanks, Joe.  Per CNN, $$$ is now ROLLING in from big donors who were withholding funds unless Joe stepped down.  I think we Dems stand a fighting chance now and as I already said, I am 100% behind Kamala Harris.  I hope she is the choice.  Let me add that I think that she would completely tear Trump in half in a debate.  Biden should have but he's just too old and slow now.

Agree. Dismantling Trump's rhetoric and lies shouldn't be hard, and Kamala is pretty sharp. I'm hoping she can bring into the fold some people who previously felt disenfranchised by both candidates, maybe that can solidify her position.

I wouldn't be surprised if this decision was made a week ago and the Dems waited until after the RNC was over to announce it. That way the subject, and Kamala, received no national spotlight from the opposition.

 


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Posted : July 21, 2024 4:44 pm
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/energized-democrats-quickly-consolidate-around-144110354.html

"In her first day as a candidate, Harris raised $81 million, the campaign announced Monday, saying it was the largest 24-hour raise by any candidate ever."  WOWIE.........


 
Posted : July 23, 2024 9:48 am
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@robslob And she didn't have to sell t-shirts or ugly hats.

I've always hated how much money gets funneled to political campaigns, but I'm seeing a lot of people excited about the race again.


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Posted : July 23, 2024 11:46 am
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What a difference a couple weeks and a fresh candidate make. JD Vance's own anti-Trump and anti-cat lady remarks push Trump out of the headlines, except when ol' orange face is talking to a room full of black journalists like he's Archie Bunker or telling evangelical Christians they will never have to vote again after 2024 (WTF?).

Meanwhile, Kamala seems to have brought new life and energy to the campaign. Between Kamala's energy and Trump's own words forming a noose around his neck, driving a lot of undecided voters away, Trump has to be fuming that the assassination attempt has moved to Page 6 so quickly. Of course his die-hard cult members won't care what he says, no matter how racist or fascist, but maybe his ignorant candor can open a few peoples' eyes.

It will be interesting to see who Kamala picks for VP. I think the Trump circle thought they carte blanche to pick anyone they wanted when they were squaring off against Biden. Vance didn't really move the needle, and his wildly contradictory stances have been more of a distraction than a boon. Supposedly one of the Trump sons pushed for Vance, and only an ignorant white guy would think another ignorant white guy would make a good running mate for an older ignorant white guy (and do no research into previous statements against their candidate).

It's sad this is even close.


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Posted : August 1, 2024 9:43 am
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@porkchopbob:  Just yesterday a female Facebook friend of mine and Trump supporter posted this:  "I really have come to believe that God stepped in and saved Trump from that bullet."  My response was, "So God cared about Trump, but didn't care at all about 21 schoolchildren who died in the Uvalde massacre?"  I already "unfollowed" her and am close to deleting her altogether.  She's got too many MAGA waving friends who jump all over anything I say.  As you referenced, things have turned in just two weeks and are not looking real good for them.  FORTUNATELY........


 
Posted : August 2, 2024 8:22 am
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@robslob 

I've heard that one recently too and it's pretty gross. Even at his rally to Christians last week Trump emphasized "I'm not a Christian". From what I understand, they believe that no matter your transgressions all you have to do is accept Jesus and ask for forgiveness and you're "in". So why would God save a multi-sinning conman who rejects Christ and not the firefighter in the crowd?

Mysterious ways, indeed.

There are plenty of rational religious people, who don't allow it to dominate their lives and every decision. But there are those who do seem to look for someone to dominate them in every part of their life, and it's how we end up with political zealots who ignore the part about the false gods warning.


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Posted : August 2, 2024 9:39 am
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Meanwhile, Trump not only insulted a roomful of black journalists (all while claiming he was the injured victim) he's made a big deal out of Kamala being half Jamaican and half Indian, all while JD Vance himself has half-Indian children. Oh, and JD Vance said of his wife, "she's not white, but I love her".

With most reasonable voters, this would ruin a candidate, so just more "tell us you're a racist without telling us your a racist" revelations about the MAGAts.


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Posted : August 2, 2024 12:11 pm
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Posted by: @stephen

sentencing day Sept 18 in federal court for felony conviction, so hope yet for those fearful of Donald who want him DQ’d into incarceration & extinction

it’s not just Sept 18 anymore

friday, aug 16

federal court hearing on election interference case 

Then Kamala debate Sept 10

…leading to Sept 18 & his haters are heartened by info published awhile back that many experts - about half polled - think Donald Trump Will Be Sentenced To Prison On That Day 

 


 
Posted : August 4, 2024 9:35 am
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According to a PBS Frontline documentary I just watched on TouTube, Trump suddenly realized just as he took office in 2016 he was the target of a shakedown by the Clintons, some Democrats and key people in the CIA and FBI. 

The PBS narrator says Trump grew up in New York City and around New York real estate deals and knew a shakedown when he saw one. 

Apparently they were trying to end his Presidency just as he became President. Being a narcissistic paranoid liar and braggart, Trump became convinced his gut feelings and immature imagination was reality and that in part led to him erroneously claiming the 2020 election was rigged. 

And he is likely to do it again if he loses against Harris. 

Joe Biden did not quit because the Democratic party turned against him post debate. Biden quit when Presidential polling showed Joe he was going to loose in an electoral landslide and Trump would be back in the White House. 

Kamala Harris so far is running on abortion rights and making sure every American not only has a decent living but can get ahead. How this will be accomplished is yet to be seen. 

What has to happen is Harris having a plan to lower gas, food, rent and other cost of living prices and secure the southern border. Those are the two big ones in poll after poll. 

She has moved in the right direction on fracking. Her campaign now says she no longer supports banning fracking and never has supported banning gas cars. 

I'm afraid pocket book considerations will decide the upcoming election and a lot of people have the impression gas, food, rent etc were a lot cheaper under Trump. And until the pandemic they were. 

This is not the time to run on left wing liberal socialist like issues. There are not enough green new deal types out there to keep Trump out of the White House. 


 
Posted : August 9, 2024 6:04 pm
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my concern is, Donald is no spring chicken - VP nominee Vance meanwhile is brand new to politics

If something happened to Trump - all seniors when they take ill, it’s worse for them & need longer to recover etc

….w/no prior experience, under an aging president, JD Vance is one step away from the presidency if something happened to Trump

this makes me Very Nervous 

four years of that w/Joe was enough - credit to him, he avoided medical episodes for the  most part 

His stepdown by all accounts has strengthened the party for the three mos leading to the election - still early

at 38 years it could be the widest age gulf ever between a president (78) & VP (40)


 
Posted : August 9, 2024 9:30 pm
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Harris visited Arizona yesterday and assured the voters she will back strong border security but also will push for a pathway to citizenship for illegals who qualify. I assume that would include no criminal record in your home country. 

She needs a strong plan to bring down gas prices and the cost of food, rent etc. And it must be better than saying she will move the country over to electric cars. That would take years and many Americans, especially Americans my age, will not drive an electric car. Too much trouble and complexity. Even with a quick charge only good for 80 percent charged, it takes TWO HOURS sitting somewhere between your house and a distance of 400 miles away. 

And the cars according to Ford will be very small in order to make them lighter and affordable. 

I think a cleaner fuel for internal combustion engines is the answer. Methanol is one I read about. Reduces emissions 80 percent. 


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Posted : August 10, 2024 11:12 am
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I watched all four nights of the Democratic National Convention and I have to say, it was POWERFUL.  Kamala Harris' speech last night was dynamic and charismatic and she certainly proved herself in front of the teleprompter.  There were many highlights over the last four nights:  Tim Walz' powerful speech on Wednesday was one.  Also on Wednesday night, I thought one of the more poignant moments of the entire convention was the speech by a staunch Republican, former Georgia Lt. Governor Geoff Duncan.  He delivered a message to his Republican cronies, "If you vote for Harris, you are not voting as a Democrat, you are voting as a Patriot."  WOW.  There were many, many repudiations of Trump over the last four days but that may have been the most powerful.  And Duncan wasn't the only Republican to stand up and give Harris their approval.  I also loved the fact that early in the evening last night, someone brought to light the fact that Trump defrauded students at his small occupational school, Trump University.  Early on in the convention they played video highlights of the horrors of January 6th, 2021.  A police officer who was seriously wounded that evening gave a short powerful speech and reminded us that there were multiple deaths resulting from the riot, some of them police officers.  

After all this, if Trump gets back in power, I may have to seriously consider moving to Costa Rica.


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Posted : August 23, 2024 9:14 am
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@robslob Agreed on all fronts.  I must point out something that I noticed:  Kamala (and cronies) have gone out of their way to demonstrate the correct pronunciation of her name.  Rhymes with COMMA (punctuation mark).  Even brought her nieces out for a little pep-rally pronunciation guide. Kinda gave Trump some grief for butchering the pronunciation.  Then ol' brother Bill Clinton (sorry, but I'll never be a fan) pronounces the name as a rhyme with HAM (pork butt).  Nobody bothered to notice.


 
Posted : August 23, 2024 9:38 am
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Posted by: @robslob

I am 100% behind Kamala Harris.  I hope she is the choice.  Let me add that I think that she would completely tear Trump in half in a debate.  Biden should have but he's just too old and slow now.

Agree. Dismantling Trump's rhetoric and lies shouldn't be hard, and Kamala is pretty sharp.

as they prepare for tmrw night, mayb now is a good time to look back, not forward

the thing is, those death-defying stunts 50 years ago, Aug 7 & Sept 8, deflected attention away, if only briefly, 

…from Richard Nixon’s Watergate resignation Aug 9

…& Gerald Ford’s “full, final & unconditional pardon” of Nixon a month later, Sept 8, for any Watergate-related crimes

i41 was in awe when that daredevil gapped the World Trade towers on a highwire Aug 7 in NYC - it wasn’t just that, he was hot dogging it, doing tricks & thoroughly enjoying himself

then bummed when on the same day Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon 

…on that day, Sept 8, 1974, on closed-circuit TV, Evel Knievel attempted to gap the Snake River canyon on his SkyCycle - only to return to earth - via the canyon floor

Knievel’s payday, $6 mil plus a cut of the closed-circuit gate, made him very wealthy

…so at least there were those fun distractions from the humdrum burdensome ‘scandals’ of a half-century ago

i41 applauded Ford’s decision to pardon Nixon 

& applaud the candidates today as they debate the issues tmrw 


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