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Muleman1994
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You see the world as left or right when in fact it is a 360 degree view and you are clearly missing half while dismissing and obsessing on 90 degrees. One of the many reasons that your logic is so flawed.

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Your post is the typical left-wing crying.
General "claims" with no specifics and not stating an informed opinion.

Oh well, Obama does need your type to even seem relevant.

Besides bullsh!t and whining, YOU have nothing!, as usual. 😛

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Considering that you are too stupid to understand the subject matter anything you post is nothing more than vapor.

You call others stupid and keep trying to pass off a Canadian as some Obama lobbyist. I stuffed the ballot box just so you could make a fool of yourself over and over.

This from a guy who decided which party to back based on which hand he uses to masturbate.

I bet that is Obama's fault too.

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Whats the matter son, not comfortable in your little "safe zone"?


 
Posted : December 6, 2015 2:21 pm
CanadianMule
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Posts: 1766
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You see the world as left or right when in fact it is a 360 degree view and you are clearly missing half while dismissing and obsessing on 90 degrees. One of the many reasons that your logic is so flawed.

_________________________________________________________________________

Your post is the typical left-wing crying.
General "claims" with no specifics and not stating an informed opinion.

Oh well, Obama does need your type to even seem relevant.

Besides bullsh!t and whining, YOU have nothing!, as usual. 😛

_________________________________________________________________________

Considering that you are too stupid to understand the subject matter anything you post is nothing more than vapor.

You call others stupid and keep trying to pass off a Canadian as some Obama lobbyist. I stuffed the ballot box just so you could make a fool of yourself over and over.

This from a guy who decided which party to back based on which hand he uses to masturbate.

I bet that is Obama's fault too.

________________________________________________________________________

Whats the matter son, not comfortable in your little "safe zone"?

Best you could do?
Very comfortable, thanks. Sitting back and enjoying the concept of your tiny brain trying to grasp the concept of a world that does not care about your left/right world and your bitterness of constantly spinning your wheels.

Did Obama steal your intelligence too? Suffering the guilt of using your left hand which you fondly call Obama and it doing a better job than your right?

Before you answer, let me save you the time. Obama this Obama that blah blah blah.

Follow that by stating that Obama needs people like me. A conservative Canadian. All part of his plan I'm sure.


 
Posted : December 6, 2015 3:12 pm
Muleman1994
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Posts: 4923
Member
 

You see the world as left or right when in fact it is a 360 degree view and you are clearly missing half while dismissing and obsessing on 90 degrees. One of the many reasons that your logic is so flawed.

_________________________________________________________________________

Your post is the typical left-wing crying.
General "claims" with no specifics and not stating an informed opinion.

Oh well, Obama does need your type to even seem relevant.

Besides bullsh!t and whining, YOU have nothing!, as usual. 😛

_________________________________________________________________________

Considering that you are too stupid to understand the subject matter anything you post is nothing more than vapor.

You call others stupid and keep trying to pass off a Canadian as some Obama lobbyist. I stuffed the ballot box just so you could make a fool of yourself over and over.

This from a guy who decided which party to back based on which hand he uses to masturbate.

I bet that is Obama's fault too.

________________________________________________________________________

Whats the matter son, not comfortable in your little "safe zone"?

Best you could do?
Very comfortable, thanks. Sitting back and enjoying the concept of your tiny brain trying to grasp the concept of a world that does not care about your left/right world and your bitterness of constantly spinning your wheels.

Did Obama steal your intelligence too? Suffering the guilt of using your left hand which you fondly call Obama and it doing a better job than your right?

Before you answer, let me save you the time. Obama this Obama that blah blah blah.

Follow that by stating that Obama needs people like me. A conservative Canadian. All part of his plan I'm sure.

_______________________________________________________________________

A conservative Canadian? The walls are closing in on you. Canada just went for a socialist leader.

The day before the Paris attack Obama said that ISIS was contained.

Just before the San Bernadino attack Obama said that ISIS was not an existential threat to the U.S.

We’ll see shortly what Obama has to say tonight.


 
Posted : December 6, 2015 3:24 pm
jkeller
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Posts: 2961
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You see the world as left or right when in fact it is a 360 degree view and you are clearly missing half while dismissing and obsessing on 90 degrees. One of the many reasons that your logic is so flawed.

_________________________________________________________________________

Your post is the typical left-wing crying.
General "claims" with no specifics and not stating an informed opinion.

Oh well, Obama does need your type to even seem relevant.

Besides bullsh!t and whining, YOU have nothing!, as usual. 😛

_________________________________________________________________________

Considering that you are too stupid to understand the subject matter anything you post is nothing more than vapor.

You call others stupid and keep trying to pass off a Canadian as some Obama lobbyist. I stuffed the ballot box just so you could make a fool of yourself over and over.

This from a guy who decided which party to back based on which hand he uses to masturbate.

I bet that is Obama's fault too.

________________________________________________________________________

Whats the matter son, not comfortable in your little "safe zone"?

Best you could do?
Very comfortable, thanks. Sitting back and enjoying the concept of your tiny brain trying to grasp the concept of a world that does not care about your left/right world and your bitterness of constantly spinning your wheels.

Did Obama steal your intelligence too? Suffering the guilt of using your left hand which you fondly call Obama and it doing a better job than your right?

Before you answer, let me save you the time. Obama this Obama that blah blah blah.

Follow that by stating that Obama needs people like me. A conservative Canadian. All part of his plan I'm sure.

_______________________________________________________________________

A conservative Canadian? The walls are closing in on you. Canada just went for a socialist leader.

The day before the Paris attack Obama said that ISIS was contained.

Just before the San Bernadino attack Obama said that ISIS was not an existential threat to the U.S.

We’ll see shortly what Obama has to say tonight.

HAHAHAHAHA. Muleboy has been bested again. And once again, Muleboy doesn't realize that he has been bested. SSDD.

[Edited on 12/7/2015 by jkeller]


 
Posted : December 6, 2015 3:32 pm
CanadianMule
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Posts: 1766
Noble Member
 

You see the world as left or right when in fact it is a 360 degree view and you are clearly missing half while dismissing and obsessing on 90 degrees. One of the many reasons that your logic is so flawed.

_________________________________________________________________________

Your post is the typical left-wing crying.
General "claims" with no specifics and not stating an informed opinion.

Oh well, Obama does need your type to even seem relevant.

Besides bullsh!t and whining, YOU have nothing!, as usual. 😛

_________________________________________________________________________

Considering that you are too stupid to understand the subject matter anything you post is nothing more than vapor.

You call others stupid and keep trying to pass off a Canadian as some Obama lobbyist. I stuffed the ballot box just so you could make a fool of yourself over and over.

This from a guy who decided which party to back based on which hand he uses to masturbate.

I bet that is Obama's fault too.

________________________________________________________________________

Whats the matter son, not comfortable in your little "safe zone"?

Best you could do?
Very comfortable, thanks. Sitting back and enjoying the concept of your tiny brain trying to grasp the concept of a world that does not care about your left/right world and your bitterness of constantly spinning your wheels.

Did Obama steal your intelligence too? Suffering the guilt of using your left hand which you fondly call Obama and it doing a better job than your right?

Before you answer, let me save you the time. Obama this Obama that blah blah blah.

Follow that by stating that Obama needs people like me. A conservative Canadian. All part of his plan I'm sure.

_______________________________________________________________________

A conservative Canadian? The walls are closing in on you. Canada just went for a socialist leader.

The day before the Paris attack Obama said that ISIS was contained.

Just before the San Bernadino attack Obama said that ISIS was not an existential threat to the U.S.

We’ll see shortly what Obama has to say tonight.

So every Muslim nut with a gun is ISIS now? Obama's fault in your mind no doubt. Damn. The only President to allow guns and ammunition to be sold and permit mass shootings.

Major difference between you and I is although I didn't back the winning party, I am still a proud Canadian and will live with the peoples' choice.

You are a traitor who does not stand behind your Nation or fellow Americans.

Enlighten me again how I am part of Obama's plan and how he needs me. Makes me giggle.

You are like a Weeble. Get knocked down over and over and like a brainless toy, you can't figure how to stay down and you amuse people by doing so.

Damn Obama for inventing the internet and allowing Liberals to use it. Right?


 
Posted : December 6, 2015 5:13 pm
jkeller
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Posts: 2961
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You see the world as left or right when in fact it is a 360 degree view and you are clearly missing half while dismissing and obsessing on 90 degrees. One of the many reasons that your logic is so flawed.

_________________________________________________________________________

Your post is the typical left-wing crying.
General "claims" with no specifics and not stating an informed opinion.

Oh well, Obama does need your type to even seem relevant.

Besides bullsh!t and whining, YOU have nothing!, as usual. 😛

_________________________________________________________________________

Considering that you are too stupid to understand the subject matter anything you post is nothing more than vapor.

You call others stupid and keep trying to pass off a Canadian as some Obama lobbyist. I stuffed the ballot box just so you could make a fool of yourself over and over.

This from a guy who decided which party to back based on which hand he uses to masturbate.

I bet that is Obama's fault too.

________________________________________________________________________

Whats the matter son, not comfortable in your little "safe zone"?

Best you could do?
Very comfortable, thanks. Sitting back and enjoying the concept of your tiny brain trying to grasp the concept of a world that does not care about your left/right world and your bitterness of constantly spinning your wheels.

Did Obama steal your intelligence too? Suffering the guilt of using your left hand which you fondly call Obama and it doing a better job than your right?

Before you answer, let me save you the time. Obama this Obama that blah blah blah.

Follow that by stating that Obama needs people like me. A conservative Canadian. All part of his plan I'm sure.

_______________________________________________________________________

A conservative Canadian? The walls are closing in on you. Canada just went for a socialist leader.

The day before the Paris attack Obama said that ISIS was contained.

Just before the San Bernadino attack Obama said that ISIS was not an existential threat to the U.S.

We’ll see shortly what Obama has to say tonight.

So every Muslim nut with a gun is ISIS now? Obama's fault in your mind no doubt. Damn. The only President to allow guns and ammunition to be sold and permit mass shootings.

Major difference between you and I is although I didn't back the winning party, I am still a proud Canadian and will live with the peoples' choice.

You are a traitor who does not stand behind your Nation or fellow Americans.

Enlighten me again how I am part of Obama's plan and how he needs me. Makes me giggle.

You are like a Weeble. Get knocked down over and over and like a brainless toy, you can't figure how to stay down and you amuse people by doing so.

Damn Obama for inventing the internet and allowing Liberals to use it. Right?

Al Gore invented the internet, dummy. 😛


 
Posted : December 6, 2015 5:15 pm
CanadianMule
(@canadianmule)
Posts: 1766
Noble Member
 

You see the world as left or right when in fact it is a 360 degree view and you are clearly missing half while dismissing and obsessing on 90 degrees. One of the many reasons that your logic is so flawed.

_________________________________________________________________________

Your post is the typical left-wing crying.
General "claims" with no specifics and not stating an informed opinion.

Oh well, Obama does need your type to even seem relevant.

Besides bullsh!t and whining, YOU have nothing!, as usual. 😛

_________________________________________________________________________

Considering that you are too stupid to understand the subject matter anything you post is nothing more than vapor.

You call others stupid and keep trying to pass off a Canadian as some Obama lobbyist. I stuffed the ballot box just so you could make a fool of yourself over and over.

This from a guy who decided which party to back based on which hand he uses to masturbate.

I bet that is Obama's fault too.

________________________________________________________________________

Whats the matter son, not comfortable in your little "safe zone"?

Best you could do?
Very comfortable, thanks. Sitting back and enjoying the concept of your tiny brain trying to grasp the concept of a world that does not care about your left/right world and your bitterness of constantly spinning your wheels.

Did Obama steal your intelligence too? Suffering the guilt of using your left hand which you fondly call Obama and it doing a better job than your right?

Before you answer, let me save you the time. Obama this Obama that blah blah blah.

Follow that by stating that Obama needs people like me. A conservative Canadian. All part of his plan I'm sure.

_______________________________________________________________________

A conservative Canadian? The walls are closing in on you. Canada just went for a socialist leader.

The day before the Paris attack Obama said that ISIS was contained.

Just before the San Bernadino attack Obama said that ISIS was not an existential threat to the U.S.

We’ll see shortly what Obama has to say tonight.

So every Muslim nut with a gun is ISIS now? Obama's fault in your mind no doubt. Damn. The only President to allow guns and ammunition to be sold and permit mass shootings.

Major difference between you and I is although I didn't back the winning party, I am still a proud Canadian and will live with the peoples' choice.

You are a traitor who does not stand behind your Nation or fellow Americans.

Enlighten me again how I am part of Obama's plan and how he needs me. Makes me giggle.

You are like a Weeble. Get knocked down over and over and like a brainless toy, you can't figure how to stay down and you amuse people by doing so.

Damn Obama for inventing the internet and allowing Liberals to use it. Right?

Al Gore invented the internet, dummy. 😛

That is what Obama wants you to think. Follow the program. 😛


 
Posted : December 6, 2015 5:19 pm
BrerRabbit
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Posts: 5580
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Did Bill Ayers write that for you?

No, but Bob Dylan wrote this:

"You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows"

And John Lennon wrote this:

“There’s nothing new under the sun. All the roads lead to Rome. And people cannot provide it for you. I can’t wake you up. You can wake you up. I can’t cure you. You can cure you.”

And Lennon also wrote this:

“Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we’re being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I’m liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That’s what’s insane about it.”

And as far as your little ongoing charade goes, here's another Lennon med for you:

“Life is very short, and there’s no time for fussing and fighting my friends”


 
Posted : December 7, 2015 11:29 am
dougrhon
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Posts: 729
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Haven't/not going to read all of these, but did someone find a reason why, after almost two years of US bombing, ISIS is still making tens of millions producing and selling oil? Who are they selling to?

I think the answers to those questions would tell a lot.

France takes one day to hit multiple targets. Russia and England do the same. US and Canada bomb all this time and have not already hit those targets? Makes no sense at all unless they have no skill, bad planes/weapons, terrible intelligence reports and no knowledge of the enemy. We know that is not the case. Even if they didn't know then why didn't France or the British share information? It all makes no sense in many ways.

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The answer you are looking for lies in a president who will not fight against Islamic Extremist Terrorism and the ROE; rules of engagement, the Obama administration uses to handcuff the military.

For years now the U.S. has been flying sorties over Syria but over 74% of the flights return with full bomb loads. Under Obama’s ROE, the pilots, once in a position to drop their loads must call in to their commands for permission and those commands must call for permission, which is controlled by the White House.

ISIS’s command and control center(s) are intentionally located in populated areas because ISIS knows well that Obama is afraid of appearing to being a wartime president. The U.S. has the intelligence, the locations but Obama will not engage.

The same applies to why Obama would not allow ISIS’s cash-cow, the oil transport and refineries, to be bombed. The U.S. has the intelligence, the locations but Obama will not engage. After Paris, the U.S. gave that information to the French who had no problem bombing both locations.

This frustration is why Obama is on his 4th Sec. of Defense and 5th Joint Chiefs of Staff Chair. Thirteen generals have resigned (were fired) during the Obama presidency.

Most recently Gen. Odierno, the Chief of Staff of the Army, testified before Congress on ISIS and told the truth which was contrary to the Obama administrations. General Odierno was fired.

Senior advisors to the President, especially military, are there to tell truth to power even when they know what they say is not what the president wants to hear. In the Obama administration doing so gets them fired.

It is known that terrorists are training in Libya to fly commercial aircraft. Don’t look for a drone or cruise missile to be “authorized” to take them out.

This is an exceptionally naïve piece of dribble. President Obama has explained a number of times that the war with ISIL has two components. The first step involves militarily defeating ISIS. The next step involves holding that territory and ensuring that ISIS or another terrorist group does not retake and repopulate that area. The vaunted surge as an example was simply a military operation and there was no attempt to hold territory.

There are two ways for the US to hold territory. The first would be a permanent presence. This method is logistically and economically unrealistic as the US would have to colonize any territory it retook from terrorists. The reason that the US has not bombed the oil fields ISIL is tapping is that a future habitation would require resources. Bombing civilian populations in a war against terrorists would alienate them and make them sympathetic to the terrorists and this would complicate any resettlement effort that could function autonomous of US assistance.

The Trump solution is simply to bomb everything and everyone. But once you get past the bombing what do you do?

Do you have a source for this as it is clear you didn’t write it?

WHy does he (and you) call it ISIL when no one else does?


 
Posted : December 7, 2015 11:58 am
Bhawk
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ISIL is the closer translation from the Arabic "Da'ish," or "Daesh."

For what that's worth... 😛


 
Posted : December 7, 2015 12:05 pm
gondicar
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ISIL is the closer translation from the Arabic "Da'ish," or "Daesh."

For what that's worth... 😛

Seems to me that most US gov't and military officials are using ISIL. In Europe, it is Daesh.


 
Posted : December 7, 2015 12:56 pm
OriginalGoober
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Posts: 1861
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WHy does he (and you) call it ISIL when no one else does?

He does this to avoid tying the terrorist group directly to his failures in Syria and Iraq around his neck.

ISIS: islamic State of Iraq and Syria.


 
Posted : December 8, 2015 8:48 am
alanwoods
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ISIL - Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant...

Still has Iraq included. There are numerous theories as to why he uses ISIL instead of ISIS.


 
Posted : December 8, 2015 8:55 am
BrerRabbit
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quote:
An ongoing state of instability in the Middle East is crucial to our national interest. Since the USA is a (the) leading military power it creates a situation that can ultimately only be resolved by us. As long as it remains unresolved, the spoils of the game fall into our laps. This is nothing new. As a military-industrial machine we need a permanent war to survive, and ISIS is just another of a long line of puppets that are fully controlled by the USA, acting out the script the USA wrote and playing their role perfectly so that the USA can remain the top player in the Middle East. If things calm down over there, the Arabs might start favoring China and Russia, which would be the final nail in the Great American Coffin.

So forget your little "left vs. right" kindergarten quibbling, neither party, nor the top corporate brass that control both, will EVER let this war stop. Ever. A few thousand casualties a decade is global control bought extremely cheaply.

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Did Bill Ayers write that for you?

Gotta say, didn't even know who Bill Ayers was until you mentioned it and I looked it up. Those are my own words, of course the war machine concept not new at all, more influenced by Eisenhower than anyone else, since you seem to be wondering where I draw my inspiration from. Come to think of it, here are some quotes from that crazed wild-eyed leftist radical Dwight D. Eisenhower:

Sic 'em, Ike! :

“Extremes to the right and to the left of any political dispute are always wrong.”

“Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron.”

“The search for a scapegoat is the easiest of all hunting expeditions.”

“Should any political party attempt to abolish social security unemployment insurance and eliminate labor laws and farm programs you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group of course that believes you can do these things. Among them are a few other Texas oil millionaires and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid.”

“May we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion. ”

“Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.”

“Never let yourself be persuaded that any one Great Man, any one leader, is necessary to the salvation of America. When America consists of one leader and 158 million followers, it will no longer be America.”

and, last but not least, but certainly the last word here that will ever be wasted on you:

“Never waste a minute thinking about people you don't like.”


 
Posted : December 10, 2015 12:54 pm
Muleman1994
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Posts: 4923
Member
 

quote:
An ongoing state of instability in the Middle East is crucial to our national interest. Since the USA is a (the) leading military power it creates a situation that can ultimately only be resolved by us. As long as it remains unresolved, the spoils of the game fall into our laps. This is nothing new. As a military-industrial machine we need a permanent war to survive, and ISIS is just another of a long line of puppets that are fully controlled by the USA, acting out the script the USA wrote and playing their role perfectly so that the USA can remain the top player in the Middle East. If things calm down over there, the Arabs might start favoring China and Russia, which would be the final nail in the Great American Coffin.

So forget your little "left vs. right" kindergarten quibbling, neither party, nor the top corporate brass that control both, will EVER let this war stop. Ever. A few thousand casualties a decade is global control bought extremely cheaply.

_________________________________________________________________________

Did Bill Ayers write that for you?

Gotta say, didn't even know who Bill Ayers was until you mentioned it and I looked it up. Those are my own words, of course the war machine concept not new at all, more influenced by Eisenhower than anyone else, since you seem to be wondering where I draw my inspiration from. Come to think of it, here are some quotes from that crazed wild-eyed leftist radical Dwight D. Eisenhower:

Sic 'em, Ike! :

“Extremes to the right and to the left of any political dispute are always wrong.”

“Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron.”

“The search for a scapegoat is the easiest of all hunting expeditions.”

“Should any political party attempt to abolish social security unemployment insurance and eliminate labor laws and farm programs you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group of course that believes you can do these things. Among them are a few other Texas oil millionaires and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid.”

“May we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion. ”

“Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.”

“Never let yourself be persuaded that any one Great Man, any one leader, is necessary to the salvation of America. When America consists of one leader and 158 million followers, it will no longer be America.”

and, last but not least, but certainly the last word here that will ever be wasted on you:

“Never waste a minute thinking about people you don't like.”

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Bill Ayers is Obama's political mentor who taught him how to be a "community organizer" and follow the socialist teachings of Saul Alinsky.


 
Posted : December 10, 2015 4:07 pm
Sang
 Sang
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Wrong again..............


 
Posted : December 10, 2015 4:11 pm
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