https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/11/us/oj-simpson-dies/index.html
Also wondering if the search for the "real killers" continues on into the afterlife?
No bigger fan of "the Juice" than me as a 15 year-old kid!
I was tempted to post in the Biden's Classified Documents thread that Trump should be congratulated for geniusly employing the "OJ Defense" towards DA, Fani Willis in Atlanta.
We don’t really know who these athletes are. On TV or in the stands we see what we see. Off the field, in ‘real’ life, some are flawed humans as many of the rest of our population is. I’ve learned to not put athletes or celebrities or musicians, whoever up on a pedestal because they don’t often deserve it. They have talent, but that only matters so much. Running for 2000 yards in the early 1970s is an outstanding accomplishment and one we can still appreciate for what it is no matter who did it. But that’s where it ends. OJ the player was one of the best. OJ the human, one of the worst and we know which one really matters in the end.
When OJ broke the 2,000 yard barrier & finished the season at 2,003, he insisted on having his OL w/him at the post game interviews after the final game - it was a classy gesture that helped raise the stock of interior lineman - RIP
I hear they're gonna use a white hearse ... driven by Al Cowlings.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/11/us/oj-simpson-dies/index.html
Also wondering if the search for the "real killers" continues on into the afterlife?
No bigger fan of "the Juice" than me as a 15 year-old kid!
I was tempted to post in the Biden's Classified Documents thread that Trump should be congratulated for geniusly employing the "OJ Defense" towards DA, Fani Willis in Atlanta.
The only way OJ could have found the “real killers” is if they were on the same golf course.
"Is that a real poncho or is that a Sears poncho?"
He was good in those towering inferno films where he played an astronaut & stuff - it showed that athletes could segue well into movies - we saw that w/Muhammad Ali, he was good in that movie The Greatest from around then - then Marvin Hagler later in the Indio films
Jackie Robinson may be the best of the genre in The Jackie Robinson Story
OJ Simpson was one of the game’s best - RIP
OJ was also a woman beater and brutally murdered 2 people which is all that matters. I'm not sure why you are giving him any shred of praise. He was an abhorrent human being.
PCB, well, it's really simple, OJ wasn't convicted of the murders so it's "sliced Bologna."
"Is that a real poncho or is that a Sears poncho?"
It's totally okay to be a soulless abhorrent individual as long as you're not convicted of anything.
"Is that a real poncho or is that a Sears poncho?"
OJ was also a woman beater and brutally murdered 2 people which is all that matters. I'm not sure why you are giving him any shred of praise. He was an abhorrent human being.
PCBob, was referring to his football playing & acting - these imo were praiseworthy - he apparently was OK as a MNF announcer too
in death, a person’s life as a whole should be remembered - good as well as bad
the old lady yelling “go OJ go” in that Hertz commercial - this is the OJ Simpson many recall
then others who saw him for what they insist he was, evil/abhorrent etc in the 2 murders he was suspected of
as always, passing no judgement, just saying
Bob Costas was on NBC yesterday talking about the OJ murder case. Costas was a very good friend to Simpson for many years, including during the time of the murders. He detailed phone calls and jail visits with Simpson at this time. During the NBC interview, Costas minced no words or thoughts on the murders. Paraphrasing rather than quoting (I believe the interview can be found on-line), Costas said that Simpson was very definitely the killer and that there was just no realistic way to suspect any other party.
I remember watching most every detail of the trial on television. The evidence was (or should've been) damning. Every bit as shocking to me as some of the details was the fact that the jury deliberated a mere 4 hours before returning their verdict.
While the opinions of guilty/not guilty seemed to vary according to skin color ... at the time - later, many African Americans would later indicate that they actually believe that Simpson did, indeed commit the murders but they believe that the jury (after many replacements) based their verdict as a protest against the L.A. cops who beat Rodney King. The subject itself is one that I just don't like to discuss with anybody. Whenever it does come up it seems that most white people believe Simpson was guilty. It seems to me that more African Americans believe that Simpson was guilty now than at the time of the murders.
Any possible late hour confession might've served as closure to families. For some this will be an eternal mystery. Others feel like they've known the answer all along.
Peace to Simpson's children and to Ron Goldman's family.
as always, passing no judgement, just saying
Well, except when you praised him for being "classy".
I'm all for not defining people by the worst day in their life. Unless it's the day they viciously murdered the mother of their children. That kind of cancels any "but he was good at sports".
Was referring to his including his OL in his interviews & mentioning them first b4 himself after his 2,003-yards season
it’s two different things, his early life>later life - disagree that his early life is null & void b/c of his later life
disagree w/pissing on him in death when he wasn’t always evil - & he did have fans, everywhere, not just Buffalo/USC etc
Just because he wasn't always killing people doesn't mean he wasn't always human garbage who lived to die comfortably in his own bed.
I'm not pissing on him, it's called perspective. Did Ted Bundy have wonderful singing voice? Who cares, he was a monster. So was OJ.
@porkchopbob Yeah and I have read Hitler loved dogs.........
OJ can finally rest in peace knowing the real killer is dead.
I’ve found myself questioning the trials. Who am I, are any of us, to question the outcome of the criminal case brought by the state of California against OJ? But then there’s the civil suit, where the penalty is money - it doesn’t seem to be an equal trial, outcome and punishment. And it isn’t
sometimes I think we have to accept the outcome of our systems - they don’t always get them right, but they are in place to decide these matters. But then if we don’t like the outcome we get to disregard the system and it loses legitimacy.
We all know what happened or what most probably happened, and in taking to anyone that matters more than what happened in the courts - we are judge, jury and executioner. Sometimes the courts convict an innocent man, sometimes they let a guilty man free. And we might see an injustice and act like we are superior to the system that’s in place to decide such things. What if we are wrong when an unpopular decicision of the court was right? What’s worse? The judicial system produces its verdicts - do we get to pick and choose which ones are right? Is that how it should be? Doesn’t that undermine the whole thing?
It might well undermine the whole process nebish (good post) - as you pointed out, the old saying often applies, ‘better one man go free on our misjudgment, than to pay for something he didn’t do’
video evidence imo is incontrovertible - so that, when the policemen were acquitted of beating Rodney King when video evidence proved otherwise, that imo was a travesty of justice that undermined the legitimacy of our judicial system
….w/no video or direct evidence linking him to the crime, imho OJ Simpson’s acquittal was more understandable & a better xmpl of our system of justice…..a jury of our peers
but as you say, who are we to judge - the right calls are made & verdicts rendered most of the time it seems
we see the posts, realize all here judge OJ into the ‘better off dead’ category
🇺🇸the old saying ‘victory has 100 fathers & defeat is an orphan’ comes to mind
You only need to watch a few true crime shows to see how fallible our system is because it depends on people. A case depends on a lot of people, and a lot of people can make a lot of human errors. Forensics is blind to opinion, unless the evidence is mishandled. Cops make mistakes at the scene, or get tunnel vision on a suspect. Overzealous prosecutors just want a W on the board because it will help their future Senate campaign. Anyone who has ever had jury duty (everyone) has probably shuddered at the thought of the people around them holding their lives in the balance. How many times have victims families praised a guilty verdict and condemned a defendant, only for it to get overturned decades later because the convicted was completely innocent?
But also Money. How many Robert Dursts or OJs are there who have walked thanks to expensive legal teams that were able to sow a seed doubt in one impressionable juror? Conversely, how many poor people relying on an overworked public defender got a raw deal?
I'm always reminded of a story my friend told me. He was working at crowded bar and the pay phone rang, he picked it up like any other night. The person on the other line asked who this was. He hung up the phone, he had drinks to make rather than answer questions. Turns out someone had just used the phone to inappropriately harass someone and it was the cops calling back. They accused my friend, who was just at work, of making the call and were ready to prosecute him because it was easy and all they had. Had his Dad not been able to get a good attorney who got the case dropped, he would have gone to trial. The cops just wanted to close the case and he happened to answer the phone.
But whatever, OJ was an abusive psycho and he did it. As @Rusty mentioned, his trial was about more than him and his victims. It was about 1990s LA, about decades of tension boiling over. He may not have been convicted, but the court of public opinion (and Norm MacDonald) reminded everyone what he really was until he died.
murdering wife beating psycho
an abhorrent human being
soulless abhorrent individual
human garbage
An Abusive Psycho & He Did It
remark, damn bro - you need a role model, or a hug, or something - it’s not healthy to carry so much hate inside - purge it, then if need be, focus it on Trump
unless you do in fact have facts to back up your unequivocal assertions of OJ’s worthless criminal life
at the very least - “I’m all for not defining people by their worst day”???? c’mon bro - the previously mentioned sliced bologna comes to mind
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Walk into a grocery store in any big city in the USA and you are likely to push your cart full of grub right past someone who has beaten, robbed, molested, raped, and/or killed another human being. Interesting to see so much outrage for just one socio/psychopath due to who/what they are/were as opposed to what they did. Much less/more so than what others did or did not do (depending on one's perspective) in regards to what was provable in a court of law. If someone else killed Nicole Brown Simpson & Ron Goldman, hardly anyone except their immediate friends and family would have cared or even mention it today after all these years. The real "MONSTER" that appeared through the entire ordeal was the media sensationalism of O.J's trial. Debatable as the catalyst for the dregs of entertainment choices known as "Reality TV" & "True Crime" dramatizations on just about every network broadcasting since. Too many people take partial truth as absolute truth and only focus on what the various forms of MEDIA dictate their attention should be on, while hundreds of similar events occur unnoticed cause it failed to fit a narrative or be manipulated to generate revenue or some ulterior motive. Mileage may vary...
My .02
Walk into a grocery store in any big city in the USA and you are likely to push your cart full of grub right past someone who has beaten, robbed, molested, raped, and/or killed another human being. Interesting to see so much outrage for just one socio/psychopath due to who/what they are/were as opposed to what they did.
When someone starts applauding the professional triumphs of those other murderers I'll be happy to remind them how awful they were. This thread happens to be about OJ and someone was championing him. That does not excluded the horror that other people in your grocery store have caused. So you can chill your "yeah but..." nonsense, he was a pretty awful person and that's been well documented.
@stephen if championing OJ Simpson is the hill you want to die on, go for it. I don't hate him, I just think it's bizarre you would defend a guy who killed his kids' mother just because he played football real good.
So you can chill your "yeah but..." nonsense, he was a pretty awful person and that's been well documented.
LOL
Nothing I said was contrary to O.J being "a pretty awful person".
I am not gonna chill anything, this is a message board and I was giving context to some of what had been posted in the thread. If you'd like, maybe someone can send you a little plastic badge that says "Nonsense Officer" or whatever.
Best wishes bro - we don’t often agree but you/me/others are long-past any theatrics etc
however w/no compelling/telltale evidence….
just plain don’t get the honestly-held belief, among good people, that he absolutely/case closed murdered his wife - it’s not that clear-cut for me - horrific acts like this can often involve others✌️
b if any more of your artwork popped up set to DWYNMore, me-Stoke - still recall that Statesboro one, the💣
