Things are bad here in NY metro area.
More later over the next few days to a week.
There may be at any later or sooner point lockdowns of NYC or counties, towns as numbers go up.
Statewide we have 729 cases. NYC 329. Long Island 172, Westchester 220.
There is no toilet paper or water in the stores. When they get more it is sold out in 10 minutes. Shelves for food are empty stores closing by 8 pm. Gyms closed till crisis over. Restaurants only allowed to do takeout or delivery service. Schools, libraries closed
I saw convenience stores dark at 3 pm.
Trump told CNBC 3 hours ago this could stretch into July or August. We have 19 million people in NY only 53,000 hospital beds, 3200 people already in the icu beds. The Governor, Andrew Cuomo, wants the Army Corps of Engineers to build temporary hospitals like China did. He and Trump are at odds.
Nationally 1.9 million test can be done this week.
The press conferences are held at least daily but twice a day lately and probably for the next week at least.
Just look up
Remarks by President Trump, Vice President Pence and Members of the Coronavirus Task Force Press Conference.
Links will come up also videos.
NYC will be able to test 5,000 people a week by the end of this week. Recent reports say the virus will not peak here for 45 more days.
The President/Congressional plan to give people a big tax rebate check is to help offset the possible 20% unemployment that may happen as a result of the coronavirus and businesses shutting down.
Reports from CNBC put the possible US death rates to come between 500,000 and 5 million.
Those projected U.S. death-rate numbers are intimidating - if they pan out, where will we be as they hit 100,000, then 1M -
In limbo that’s where - which is about where we are right now - the wrong way to fight coronavirus is what we’re doing - panicking, kow-towing to it, running scared from it & shutting America down for business while avoiding all contact & preparing for mandatory face masks etc etc - in short, a great country will be a shell of its former self
I respect how lethal & contagious it is but some semblance of normalcy b4/if this thing slams full-force, isn’t a bad thing either - you can’t shake hands or hug anymore, that to me is Bad News
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Here in Long Island it is already starting to feel like a third world country. Everything is starting to close and go dark. The convenience stores close their doors. All the fast food places are drive thru only. I went to get a laptop the stores have no stock they can order it and send it and they only let 15 people in the store at one time, and they will close at 6 pm not 11 pm.
I heard that the store shelves are half empty due to not getting their regular shipments they are getting less of what they ordered. I think the govt. Is holding it back for whatever reasons to discourage the hoarding or maybe they can't get enough of the things, most the stuff is imported.
We will have a lot of dead people and economic concerns because of the virus. Our standard of living is going to change, one intel guy said we have been used to abundance but that will be no more. Have to prioritize and figure out what is really important. The days of excess are over.
NYC coronavirus is expected to peak in 45 days from now. So it's going to get worse for awhile.
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The press conferences are held at least daily but twice a day lately and probably for the next week at least.
Just look up
Remarks by President Trump, Vice President Pence and Members of the Coronavirus Task Force Press Conference.Links will come up also videos.
The remarks from Trump from a couple weeks ago were a lot more entertaining. It was a lot more fun when this was all a hoax and they already had it shut down. Given that, why would anyone care what Trump has to say?
It was a lot more fun when this was all a hoax
Never thought it was a "hoax", blown way out of proportion by the media?.. Most certainly, everyday, all day with the masses having ears glued to the idiot box, radio & social media, just waiting for the next administered dose of paranoia that will send them to the grocer to stand in line in the hopes that there is enough toilet paper for all.
Both Trump & State Run TV, FOX held the line that Coronavirus was a hoax. The onus is on them squarely for denials and lies at the biggest level and misleading the public. Now that reality has set in, they can't deny facts & numbers. Trump is now the hero who will save us from a pandemic. How quickly a hoax morphs into a pandemic.
"After repeatedly dismissing the coronavirus pandemic as a liberal hoax designed to bring down the president, Fox News appears to have finally woken up to reality. On Tuesday, the network joined others in practicing on-air social distancing, telling viewers that such measures were crucial to curbing the spread of infections."
https://www.motherjones.com/coronavirus-updates/2020/03/fox-news-coronavirus/
Can anyone really take Trump seriously.
Trump calls coronavirus Democrats' 'new hoax'
“Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus,” Trump said at a rally on Friday.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-calls-coronavirus-democrats-new-hoax-n1145721
Don Jr. Had said a little while back that the virus was a ploy by Democrats to criticize how Don Sr. Is handling it to manipulate the election. There have been comparisons and criticisms of Trump which I think are unfair. This should not be politicized it is a medical pandemic. When the bodies start piling up then people will scream why didn't he do more. He waited too long. He is trying to handle it in a calm rational manner. Xi Jinping handled it cool, calm, effectively with finesse and fortitude. He is a great role model in this crisis. Trump will not scream like Alex Jones. He has a great team on the Coronavirus Task Force and is probably the best Project Manager we could have. He wants to succeed, he needs to win and that is what we need right now. A winner.
Two Congressional members are positive for coronavirus.
Rep. Ben McAdams Utah
Rep. Mario-Diaz Balartart Florida Miami
The Miami Mayor Francis Suarez is also positive.
Brian Monahan, M.D. is the Attending Physician for Congress members.
The media is not unscathed either. Seth Doane and five other CBS reporters tested positive. Seth was on assignment in Rome. Italy.
Sorry, but when you have plenty of warning and go from calling it a hoax to an emergency in a couple weeks, you deserve to be roasted. Not having the testing kits on hand when you have plenty of warning is criminal and will likely cost lives. Remember the Grand Princess cruise ship? Half the people who had symptoms and have been in quarantine for over a week still had not been tested as of 2 days ago. Every other country has test kits. South Korea performs more tests in a single day than we have ever done. This is inexcusable. I'm not playing politics here. While Trump and his supporters are pulling out false narratives from the Swin Flu (who is playing politics now?), our response continues to be slow because we actually have no idea how many cases we have.
Don Jr. Had said a little while back that the virus was a ploy by Democrats to criticize how Don Sr. Is handling it to manipulate the election. There have been comparisons and criticisms of Trump which I think are unfair. This should not be politicized it is a medical pandemic. When the bodies start piling up then people will scream why didn't he do more. He waited too long. He is trying to handle it in a calm rational manner. Xi Jinping handled it cool, calm, effectively with finesse and fortitude. He is a great role model in this crisis. Trump will not scream like Alex Jones. He has a great team on the Coronavirus Task Force and is probably the best Project Manager we could have. He wants to succeed, he needs to win and that is what we need right now. A winner.
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Don Jr. is a true Phi Beta Kappa. 90% of time he goes on TV he shows the idiot he is. I saw him recently speak of challenging Hunter Biden to a debate. No doubt the country wants to see that.
A couple weeks ago Don Jr. suggested that people add to ther 401K's. His timing was impeccable. That would have done nothing but degredation in value. Maybe we use his analysis as a contrarian indicator of investing. This guy gets a pulpit and air time because of prez daddy. Have heard mention of Don Jr. running for prez for 2024. We had the Bushes; now the GOP can get on board with the Trumps.
Have heard mention of Don Jr. running for prez for 2024. We had the Bushes; now the GOP can get on board with the Trumps.
Hadn't heard that one. Ivanka is the one I've heard touted as POTUS material. Jared would make a great First Spouse.
The Governor of California says within weeks 25.5 million people will have coronavirus. He also worries about the 60,000 homeless people contracting it.
The Navy has orders from Defense Secretary Esper and the USN ship Mercy will be sent to the west coast.
The USN ship Comfort will arrive in NY April 24.
Both ships each have 1000 beds, 12 operating rooms and 1200 Doctors.
They will Not be treating coronavirus patients but other patients.
Vaccines underway at Moderna, Johnson & Johnson, Sanofi and Regeneron is doing exciting research using SARS CO-V2 they isolated antibodies from coronavirus patients who recovered and are going thru them to find the best two to make a vaccine cocktail. They are also using Kervaza a rheumatoid arthritis medication to treat the severe immune response that happens in the lungs.
When the virus goes in the lungs your body reacts with an inflammatory response. This response causes small blood vessels to leak fluids. The fluids fill up the alveoli which are sacs. The blood does not get proper oxygen exchange. Then you need a ventilator to get oxygen into your lungs and then the blood where it goes to your organs.
The lack of oxygen can cause many problems including brain damage. You have probably heard if someone has a heart attack and dies not get CPR and oxygen for 2 minutes they are brain damaged. That is true. This is why it is so serious.
People think this is just like the flu. It can be mild for some or it can kill you really quickly.
I am not optimistic about the number of cases NY will have as we are on par with California.
I don't care that they say do not wear a mask. Any protection is better than none.
And Long Island still has a severe toilet paper shortage.
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The emergency money checks from the gov said to be $1200 per adult and $500 per child. Coming soon. Our overhead traffic indicators on our highways say Save Lives Stay Home Flatten the Curve.
The curve is where the virus spikes and lots more people get infected.
The next 8 weeks you will see the big numbers and be scared.
It is coming.
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Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garceti
Just issued an emergency order called Safer at Home ordering people to stay in their homes immediately limiting all non essential movement.
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4000 cases in New York City now, 7000 statewide. Governor Cuomo issued an Executive Order today all non essential workers stay home as of Monday. All non essential businesses close by 8 pm Sunday night.
I am in a health care business which has stayed open so far we shall see next week the outcome of the Executive Order.
I scored two Entemann's cakes and some water over the last two days. I feel better now.
I still have a bunch of things to do before everything other than supermarkets, pharmacies and gas stations close. Yep everything gonna close for 8 weeks or more. Dominos is hiring 100,000 people to deliver and make pizza, Walmart hiring 100,000 also.
Hi gina. Hope you're OK.
Yeah, I got the last Entenmanns chocolate chip crumb cake in the store yesterday.
One can spin it, twist it or come up with every hyperbole in the world. However, what American saw today on full display is an incompetent who lacks intellect, intelligence, the inability to comprehend complex issues and the inability to articulate any policy or on any subject without reverting to non-factual bamboozle BS. Go figure.
Francis Collins, National Institutes of Health Director says 70,000 cases can be diagnosed by the end of next week.
NY has received the FEMA Major Disaster area designation. This is usually done for bad hurricanes or other severe destructive weather events. I shudder to think what hurricane season could do to this country.
Also heard some intel that we should start expecting the restricted movements for at least 12 weeks at this point could be longer. The virus will be most contagious and spread in the next 8 weeks so it is crucial to try to avoid people who can spread it unknowingly.
Per Katie Miller, Vice President Pence's Press Secretary, a staffer in his office tested positive. Neither Pence nor Trump were exposed to the staffer.
New York's Governor Cuomo issued an Executive Order effective Sunday night 8 p.m. 100 percent of non essential businesses must close. Fines, they will be closed down if found out and enforcement
What are Essential Services?
Https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/what-are-essential-services-jobs-185047320.html
Remarks: I feel better now. Though I heard a show with an intel person who said IF this disease becomes airborne, meaning you don't need a specific host to host transmission like someone coughing or sneezing or carrying it on their hands and you touch the same thing they did becoming exposed, IF it is lasting long enough in the air infecting people without a direct host to host transmission THEN martial law and military containment would be likely.
So for now, limit your goings out, wash your hands, get sleep, eat right and relax. We can handle this. It will be okay.
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“President Donald Trump ignored reports from US intelligence agencies starting in January that warned of the scale and intensity of the coronavirus outbreak in China, The Washington Post reported Friday.”
'Intelligence agencies depicted the nature and global spread of the virus and China's apparent downplaying of its severity, as well as the potential need for government measures to contain it -- while Trump opted to dismiss or simply not address their seriousness."
"Donald Trump may not have been expecting this, but a lot of other people in the government were -- they just couldn't get him to do anything about it," the official noted to the Post. "The system was blinking red."
"Donald Trump may not have been expecting this, but a lot of other people in the government were -- they just couldn't get him to do anything about it," the official noted to the Post. "The system was blinking red."
This is exactly what you would expect of him. This type of news interferes with the perception he wants us to believe and also is a negative for the stock market. Negatives impact his reelection goals. He'd rather cover it up than be proactive and actually worry about the health of the American people. Only a self serving idiot would believe that he could cover it up but for so long, and now see where we are. We could have been weeks further ahead of the curve as opposed to playing catch up.
Yes we could have been a little further ahead than we are now. Trump did not see creating panic or overreacting to the problem. We all thought the epicenter being in China and them closing everything down quickly would mitigate the global spread sufficiently that we would not be facing what we are now. However, when it became obvious the virulence of the disease and how rapidly communicable this is actions were taken appropriately. The Coronavirus Task Force is top notch, transparent and trustworthy. They are not covering anything up. Trump allocated the resources to NYC that were requested by Governor Cuomo. The National Guard are in NYC to build temporary field hospitals. They are also in Stony Brook building a temporary hospital there and are looking at SUNY Old Westbury College as another location. They will use college dorms for extra space in other colleges. The US Navy ship Comfort arrives 4-24 and will dock off Jones Beach. Things are being done.
There has been criticism of President Trump for saying "Chinese Virus". I want to straighten this out. It is SARS-CoV-2 that causes Covid-19. There are 39 known coronaviruses.
Https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/grows-virus-cell-culture.html
Maybe we should call it SARS-CoV-2/Covid-19.
Meanwhile there has just been a global alert from France from the head of Emergency Services, Philippe Juvin, telling us that patients walk into the hospital and two hours later are asphyxiated [needing ventilators].
Not sure why link is not working but if you go to the main site go to the world section and you can find it there.
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Not trying to be flippant but now we have a scientific way to determine how long our stash will last in the pandemic.
Https://howmuchtoiletpaper.com
Reported by CNN.
We are expected to hit peak cases in NYC and metro areas in 21 to 26 days. We see more cases being reported because we are testing more people. If they were not tested they would still be positive you just would not know about them. We did 45,437 tests here in NY. We found 10,356 cases. So yes we have identified more cases than California or Washington state. Our Governor said that 54% of our new cases in NY are in the 18 to 49 year old age range. This is not just elderly people getting sick.
We have 6000 ventilators we need 30,000 in NYC metro area. He is working on that.
We have 50,000 hospital beds, we need 75,000. He is working on that too.
NYC Presbyterian Hospital has 300 confirmed patients, 200 more awaiting results. Normally the hospital uses 4000 masks per day. They need 40,000 per day. The Governor is working on this even paying $4 for masks that used to cost 80 cents. He is reconfiguring factories in this state to make masks here. Presbyterian estimates needing 700 to 939 icu beds.
Mayor Bill DeBlasio has said in 10 days hospitals run out of essential equipment, and that April will be worse than May and May will be worse than April.
The Chairman of Presbyterian Department of Surgery, Craig Smith M.D. has been quite honest about the situation and even poignantly compared our struggle to Balto running the supplies to Nome, which started the modern day Iditarod sled race.
NY will prevail in this better than anyplace else.
Https://twitter.com/columbiasurgery
See his 3/20 update letter to colleagues and 3/21 update
There is also Governor Cuomo's 3/21 press conference with tons of info on what he is doing.
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Kentucky Senator Rand Paul has tested positive but has no symptoms. He is on the Senate Intelligence Committee and is self
quarantined.
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