So Rudy seems to be in discussion with the Jan 6th committee to testify...Could be a wings and popcorn moment...discuss...LOL
Discuss? F***ing crook with dripping hair paint?
So will he make it a circus or will he spill the beans...He's not getting his legal bills paid. He's losing his license. Why do these people hang on to a loser that turn his back on everyone.
So will he make it a circus or will he spill the beans...He's not getting his legal bills paid. He's losing his license. Why do these people hang on to a loser that turn his back on everyone.
That’s the million dollar question....Why do these people constantly fall on the sword for someone with the track record of Donald Trump? Personally I think Rudy will make a sh@t show of the proceedings in a last ditch effort to stay in Trump’s good graces.
However, we’re starting to see cracks in Trump’s support within certain segments of the Republican Party. Combined with what perhaps could be some serious, very expensive, legal proceedings should he not cooperate, Rudy is reassessing the shifting political winds and his future should he not cooperate.
@robslob another Al Capones vault....wonder if Geraldo will be there
I think he will try to make a circus out of the hearing
Rudy's daughter wrote a piece not long ago about how embarrassed she is of what her father has become, that she doesn't really speak to him anymore. It was sad, for her - we forget these awful public figures have family that deals with their erratic behavior every day.
Rudy has now lost his license to practice law, any remaining public esteem he gained as Mayor of NYC and taking down the mob, and to degree, his family. At what point does defending a guy who stopped paying you and chasing after insecure men's boogey(wo)man become no longer worth it? Trump may be a lying narcissist, but the decaying sycophants he's left in his wake are mind-boggling. He's like a black hole and these people just don't see their own ruin coming.
@porkchopbob It's not only his direct tribe it's the people at the rallies that don't get. He'd phuck them in a second and could care less about them. He's just there to stir them up about what they hate and sell them his brand of snake oil.
So very cult like.....They're still oblivious as to Trump's real motives. As, I believe, P.T. Barnum once said, "There's a sucker born every minute." Or was it Fred Trump who first coined this phrase?
Anybody else see the recently released video of some guy already in Capital building trying to open doors from the inside that are magnetically locked? They won't budge. Then he steps back and looks up up at the camera, says something, and then tries the doors again. They open. When officers arrive to keep people from entering, same dude says something to one officer and the stop trying to keep people out.
Why won't Pelosi release AlL of the video footage from that day?
THat would show what really happened, right?
Although it would stop them from stretching things out longer, like say as close to the mid-sized terms as possible.
Carry- on with your old-timers circle jerk that happens here whenever Orange Man Bad gets mentioned. He is living rent free in all your heads, always funny to watch.
Anybody else see the recently released video of some guy already in Capital building trying to open doors from the inside that are magnetically locked? They won't budge. Then he steps back and looks up up at the camera, says something, and then tries the doors again. They open. When officers arrive to keep people from entering, same dude says something to one officer and the stop trying to keep people out.
Why won't Pelosi release AlL of the video footage from that day?
THat would show what really happened, right?
Although it would stop them from stretching things out longer, like say as close to the mid-sized terms as possible.
Carry- on with your old-timers circle jerk that happens here whenever Orange Man Bad gets mentioned. He is living rent free in all your heads, always funny to watch.
I rest my case...The Trump cult is alive and well.
So somebody asking to see ALL video footage is cult member? LOL
Somebody saying there might be an alternative to the narrative those in power and the multi-national corporations that own them are saying is a cult member? LOL
My Favorite... Anyone who has a different opinion than my point of view is automatically a cult member. LOL
For the record, F everybody in Washington. From elected officials to appointed bureaucrats. If you think they give a crap about you, you are an idiot. They are robbing us blind, and anyone that doesn't bend over and say, "govern me harder" is labeled a domestic terrorist or some other B/S. Whatever?
When the Federal Government, Fortune 500 Companies (especially Big Pharma), Hollywood, Pro Sports, Corporate News, The Big Tech Oligarch, Public Schools, Institutions of higher learning, and everything/everyone else propped up from and/ or by China all share the same agenda, something is wrong. But who gives a F right, those in power have the right letter after their names.
BTW, this message is not brought to you by Pfizer, Moderna, or J & J. Imagine that!
Let's s approach it differently? Regardless of politics... Regardless of what we think of one another... Regardless of who is being investigated... Regardless of who is doing the investigating. Wouldn't sane people, possessing critical thinking skills, who respond and not react on emotion want and/or require ALL evidence to be presented so it can be determined what did or did not happen?
Much less be curious as to why any and all legal action pertaining to January 6th has either bypassed the possibility of discovery (plea deals) or stalls just before it is required. (Formal Charges/Indictment) If it is actually criminal, due process and habeas corpus should apply. As of know, it all appears to be all political. Nobody should be cool with that.
@gotdrumz Sane people don't go looking for conspiracies in the face of a mountain of evidence to the contrary. Most people are happy to have the orange one in the rear view, despite him continuing to rally his cult who, themselves, continue to have Hillary in their own heads (who, to my knowledge, has not staged fever dream rallies). Most of the January 6th plea deals have come with red-faced apologies staring down their own selfies and hours of their own felonious footage. It's clear as day what happened.
So now that the rants have gone by...does any wonder if Rudy is gonna flip or become even more of a clown...
Looking at the pleas objectively... Dude from Iced Earth band, please to possession of dangerous weapon (bear spray) and obstruction an official proceeding. Shaman dude plead guilty to obstructing an official proceeding. The others were what, unlawful parading. I see these as actions of individuals who made poor choices. To presume that everything that happened both inside and outside the Capital occurred in a vacuum is naive. If there was actually some grand scheme for insurrection? Nobody charged with that... Nobody charged with firearm possession of discharging a weapon.. Nobody charged with physically assaulting anyone?
And... If the alphabet agencies of the government had so much "intelligence" on nefarious individuals and/ or groups? Why did Pelosi decline extra assistance from the National Guard? If any "Intelligence" gathered after Jan 6 shows a threat , why are they waiting to charge these people? What is more important, Public safety of political currency? Oh yeah, American citizens are still incarcerated without charges for over a year. If they are "terrorists", where is the evidence proving it? Afterall, it happened in the place with the heaviest video surveillance in the USA. Oh yeah, Pelosi has control of that stuff. She has been asked to release it, won't do it, why?
BTW, It asking questions equates chasing conspiracy theories. I guess in your book, a journalist or a police officer is doing that too. LOL
@gotdrumz So do you think Rudy will flip or make a scene?...see the thread is about Rudy. Maybe you should start a thread about your concerns or issues or questions.
So do you think Rudy will flip?
Ha. Dude. A single trial for a single incident can take a year or more. There are hundreds of people involved in this and thousands of hours of video, photo, and eye-witness evidence. The DAs office is still just humans making cases based on evidence. That's how trials work. Plea deals for lesser offenders make it go faster.
They are charging these people with what they can throw at them. Some people did just get caught up and wandered through the capitol after a bunch of other people violently broke in. These were not smart people. In a plea, some charges get thrown out to avoid a costly trial. The Shaman guy plead out to obstructing a proceeding and apologized, and got 41 months since he was non-violent,. I'm not really sure what more you were expecting, he was just one of the most blatant because he was dressed like an idiot. It's foolish to assume his plea is proof of something more.
But if you think it's ok for a mob to storm a building, resulting in the deaths of several people, ok then. Apparently it's all relative to you.
Asking smart questions is fine. Asking dumb questions is chasing conspiracies. Especially if it's based on stuff a Russian sympathizer makes up.
For instance, Pelosi did not decline assistance from the National Guard: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/12/16/fact-check-no-trump-request-10000-guard-troops-jan-6/8929215002/
@goldtop eventually Rudy will run out of options, but who knows if investigators will even need him. He has a client privilege unless it's found he was committing a felony. Really depends on what is in some of these National Archives documents that are being released (the ones that weren't shredded by the former President, that is).
Using propaganda fact checkers as source is laughable.
Dude that resigned from being Chief of Capital Police (Sund) says requests were denied multiple times by both House & Senate security officials. The Sgt at Arms is in charge, but reports to the Speaker. So technically, Pelosi has/had the last say. The word salad "factcheckers" usually spew is legalese to confuse those that struggle with the concept of "scapegoat" in the chain of command for purpose of placing blame and/or accountability on others, much less plausible deniability. Me, I put more weight on what the former chief has to say than say. Especially, anything owned by corporate media.
BTW, Government employees are responsible for the deaths on Jan 6th
I got excited man! LOL
IMO, what is going on in DC right now is political theater. Anybody saying anything pertinant, might have it used against them if/when there are actually any criminal proceedings.
If there is/was some big pipe dream to successfully overthrow or occupy Washington DC on Jan 6th? Hold everyone accountable, allow due process, and put truth above politics.
I know people are stupid, right? So something with that magnitude of planning to even attempt, would logically have supply chain and other logistical measures/protocols in place. There was not, so I do not buy into there being a planned attack with an agenda by those the government and media are pointing fingers at.
I haven't been following this, but Trump fired/rehired Rudy so many times it would be hard to know in what capacity Rudy was acting & if/when he was ever paid. You're right that if Rudy was part of any crimes committed by Trump, he's a conspirator & no privilege exists. Given that he's been suspended by the NY and DC bars, he's not a lawyer at all now. IMO, by the end of Trump's term, Rudy was acting out his own crazy theories. He was seen rallying the mob w/Trump on Jan 6. but even Trump was trying to rid himself of him. This is definitely a case of a guy taking the wrong path in life - great US attorney; disaster at anything else.
Sund's requests were denied in the days prior to the rally, not during. Pelosi was not in the chain of security officials until Jan 6. What you are probably confusing is she took part in the security meetings for the inauguration. It's not "legalese", it's directly from Sund's own testimony and account of record.
Pelosi’s spokesman said she was not consulted about the National Guard before Jan. 6. And the former House sergeant-at-arms, who reported to Pelosi, testified that he had no discussions about National Guard troops with any congressional leaders before Jan. 6.
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Sund said he believes Irving consulted with his Senate counterpart, Sergeant-at-Arms Michael Stenger, and then Irving told him there were concerns of optics.
If you can prove multiple accounts and testimony are propaganda, I'm all ears. Saying stuff without any sources in the face of evidence to the contrary is called an unfounded conspiracy theory. If Trump is your source, his account has already been disproven.
The people who stormed our capitol are responsible for their own actions and the multiple deaths that resulted. Many of them have apologized for their actions while pleading to charges. I can think of only one elected government official who egged these people into action, based on conspiracy, and did nothing for hours to stop them. You're using Pelosi as a scapegoat for their actions that day.
Wasn't being specific regarding fact checkers, to me there is a stigma with them. It seems one sided? An opposing view cannot be wrong all the time right? IMO, all corporate media has an agenda. They don't generate revenue doing otherwise. Not to mention, the hypocrisy of some fact checkers leads to bias and censorship of those they disagree with. Let the individual be free to read/research whatever and come to their own conclusion(s).
As to the rest, maybe you are right? Who knows? We will just have to wait and see.
