But let's say that Citizen's United was reversed. Would you be ok with every entity that coordinates big money and directs it towards political ends to be restricted? The Teacher's Unions are the single biggest contributors, working to protect an archaic system of failure. They harm the country as much or more than any corporation. Would you be fine with limiting them as well?
Hell Yeah!!!
I'd also like to limit the entire "election season" to 6 weeks. Christ. It's ridiculous. The President doesn't even work two years before they are running for re-election.
And I promise you Trump is about to run into a wall of money spent by others to thwart him. And it won't be pretty.
Fuji I almost always agree with your posts but, in the United States electoral system, money matters.
There are outliers. And quite frankly I applaud the Tea Party for their grass roots success. When David Brat defeated Eric Cantor I was over the moon. I know my vote helped as did the votes of many other Progressives who just wanted Cantor gone. But the credit does go to hay seeds on that victory.
Judging by the Republican turn out I won't be surprised if Hillary gets her ass handed to her as well, but in general, in almost all Congressional and Senate races Citizens United has gagged the common man.
Sorry you disagree.
Actually, I don't disagree. If it were to happen, I just don't want to see "exceptions".
But that's impractical to begin with. Politicians will never agree to limit the paths that money comes to them. Every attempt at this type of reform in the past has only sprung more creative methods and larger amounts to end up funding campaigns. I doubt that will ever change.
BTW - on the list of big problems or important issues, rescheduling marijuana wouldn't even break the top 50. I get that its a personal issue for some, but wow, imagining it should be a Presidential priority is ludicrous.
"Priority"? No. But perhaps something that he could do on one of his last days in office - like the day when presidents (all of them - both parties) are rubber stamping pardons for various celebrities and other cronies for their various misdemeanors.
I get that it might not be a big deal to you of for some. For others, this issue has as much personal relevance as same sex marriage to others. It IS at this point, an equal rights issue. There are several states where you can purchase legally something that there are still people (especially minorities) getting locked up for in other areas.
Cannabis is far less harmful that many other legal substances (I'm not going to open that can). Beyond that, it is simply the will and desire of the majority of the people that it be legalized. That alone should be enough.
Unintended consequences:
“We won the Super Bowl; now let’s house our homeless addicts”
it is well known that marijuana does not cause addiction. 😛
it is well known that marijuana does not cause addiction. 😛
Not true in Colorado 😉
Colorado’s addiction to cannabis revenue may prove to be the most harmful implication of all. Towns such as De Beque, where cannabis is replacing coal and cattle as a means of income, imperil themselves by staking the future on a substance that is still illegal in most states and that half of Americans still regard as a social evil.
http://www.newsweek.com/unexpected-side-effects-legalizing-weed-339931
You always could get up off your lazy a$$ and look it up for yourself.
And fool would know that the burden of proof is on one who brings up a concept. Beside, I'm fresh OUT of troll food.
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It isn’t my problem that you are too lazy or stupid too lookup publically available information for even follow the political bickering in Colorado over their financial shortfall.
Much has been in the media such as the “this is a harmless right” and “we told you this was going to happen” arguing.
gondicar seems to have the same deficiency. He doesn’t understand the difference between legislation on the General Assembly docket and proposed legislation.
BTW - the Colorado Obamacare exchange is in dire need of another bailout otherwise it is expected to fail by the end of the year. As their "we told you so" politicians has said, we don't have the funding.
Oh well, the low-info voter rolls love their members.
muleman, you are a habitual liar who doesn't support the lies with links to source info because you can't, you are lying, and therefore the support materials/links do not exist. And when you are called out on your lies, you either lie some more, blow it off by saying you were talking about something else, or blame it on someone else and/or just insult the other person as just too dumb to understand.
In this thread, for example...first you claimed, with no citation or links to support it, that citizens of Denver are paying higher taxes due to the homelessness created by legalizing marijuana. That's lie #1. Then when called on it, you changed to saying that there are "tax increases on personal income, businesses and sales taxes being proposed by the State Legislature and supported by the Governor to meet the costs they are incurring as are result of the huge rise in homeless people and addicts" and that it is easy to find these because "All legislation before the Colorado General Assembly is public." That's lie #2. Then when called on the fact that there is no such tax legislation listed publicly on the website of the Colorado legislature, you blame it on "the difference between legislation on the General Assembly docket and proposed legislation." That's lie #3. And now you are saying that robslob is "too lazy or stupid too [sic] lookup publically [sic] available information" and "gondicar seems to have the same deficiency" and everyone else is just low info voters.
So you've lied no less than 3 times in this one thread, all on the exact same topic, and then when you ran out of lies you threw the "too lazy or stupid" insult out there, right on cue. It is the muleman playbook and if I can give you credit for anything, it that you consistently follow it every time. Can't wait for the next one!!
You always could get up off your lazy a$$ and look it up for yourself.
And fool would know that the burden of proof is on one who brings up a concept. Beside, I'm fresh OUT of troll food.
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It isn’t my problem that you are too lazy or stupid too lookup publically available information for even follow the political bickering in Colorado over their financial shortfall.
Much has been in the media such as the “this is a harmless right” and “we told you this was going to happen” arguing.
gondicar seems to have the same deficiency. He doesn’t understand the difference between legislation on the General Assembly docket and proposed legislation.
BTW - the Colorado Obamacare exchange is in dire need of another bailout otherwise it is expected to fail by the end of the year. As their "we told you so" politicians has said, we don't have the funding.
Oh well, the low-info voter rolls love their members.
muleman, you are a habitual liar who doesn't support the lies with links to source info because you can't, you are lying, and therefore the support materials/links do not exist. And when you are called out on your lies, you either lie some more, blow it off by saying you were talking about something else, or blame it on someone else and/or just insult the other person as just too dumb to understand.
In this thread, for example...first you claimed, with no citation or links to support it, that citizens of Denver are paying higher taxes due to the homelessness created by legalizing marijuana. That's lie #1. Then when called on it, you changed to saying that there are "tax increases on personal income, businesses and sales taxes being proposed by the State Legislature and supported by the Governor to meet the costs they are incurring as are result of the huge rise in homeless people and addicts" and that it is easy to find these because "All legislation before the Colorado General Assembly is public." That's lie #2. Then when called on the fact that there is no such tax legislation listed publicly on the website of the Colorado legislature, you blame it on "the difference between legislation on the General Assembly docket and proposed legislation." That's lie #3. And now you are saying that robslob is "too lazy or stupid too [sic] lookup publically [sic] available information" and "gondicar seems to have the same deficiency" and everyone else is just low info voters.
So you've lied no less than 3 times in this one thread, all on the exact same topic, and then when you ran out of lies you threw the "too lazy or stupid" insult out there, right on cue. It is the muleman playbook and if I can give you credit for anything, it that you consistently follow it every time. Can't wait for the next one!!
_________________________________________________________________________You have provided no links to support your lies.
What is the matter son, no facts to support your crap?
You always could get up off your lazy a$$ and look it up for yourself.
And fool would know that the burden of proof is on one who brings up a concept. Beside, I'm fresh OUT of troll food.
_________________________________________________________________________
It isn’t my problem that you are too lazy or stupid too lookup publically available information for even follow the political bickering in Colorado over their financial shortfall.
Much has been in the media such as the “this is a harmless right” and “we told you this was going to happen” arguing.
gondicar seems to have the same deficiency. He doesn’t understand the difference between legislation on the General Assembly docket and proposed legislation.
BTW - the Colorado Obamacare exchange is in dire need of another bailout otherwise it is expected to fail by the end of the year. As their "we told you so" politicians has said, we don't have the funding.
Oh well, the low-info voter rolls love their members.
muleman, you are a habitual liar who doesn't support the lies with links to source info because you can't, you are lying, and therefore the support materials/links do not exist. And when you are called out on your lies, you either lie some more, blow it off by saying you were talking about something else, or blame it on someone else and/or just insult the other person as just too dumb to understand.
In this thread, for example...first you claimed, with no citation or links to support it, that citizens of Denver are paying higher taxes due to the homelessness created by legalizing marijuana. That's lie #1. Then when called on it, you changed to saying that there are "tax increases on personal income, businesses and sales taxes being proposed by the State Legislature and supported by the Governor to meet the costs they are incurring as are result of the huge rise in homeless people and addicts" and that it is easy to find these because "All legislation before the Colorado General Assembly is public." That's lie #2. Then when called on the fact that there is no such tax legislation listed publicly on the website of the Colorado legislature, you blame it on "the difference between legislation on the General Assembly docket and proposed legislation." That's lie #3. And now you are saying that robslob is "too lazy or stupid too [sic] lookup publically [sic] available information" and "gondicar seems to have the same deficiency" and everyone else is just low info voters.
So you've lied no less than 3 times in this one thread, all on the exact same topic, and then when you ran out of lies you threw the "too lazy or stupid" insult out there, right on cue. It is the muleman playbook and if I can give you credit for anything, it that you consistently follow it every time. Can't wait for the next one!!
_________________________________________________________________________You have provided no links to support your lies.
What is the matter son, no facts to support your crap?Links to what, the lies you've posted in this thread? Just scroll, son. Links to the non-existent proposed legislation you are talking about? There are none, because you lied about that and no such links exist.
personally i don't think the increase in homelessness in colorado has much to do with rescheduling marijuana. the issue is allowing scientific research to take place. schedule 1 drugs are highly restricted for scientific research. if mule wants to believe what he does about the issue that's ok with me, i'm not gonna try and change his mind, not that i could. i am open to reading why he thinks it bad to research marijuana.
whether weed is legal for recreational use doesn't concern me much either, if i want some weed i'll get some weed. the waste in time and money on enforcing prohibition is a problem but some people think it is not a waste and has been successful and well spent. i disagree with that and i think time has shown that it is not working but some disagree with me on that.
I get that some among us aren't that passionate about a failed 40 year war we've been fighting against our own citizens. A war that costs the tax payers billions per year in interdiction, prosecution, and incarceration. A war that places DEA and special forces personnel in proxy wars all over Central and South America illegally. A war that violates constitutional rights of American citizens. A war against a benign weed that has been proven to provide many medicinal effects and relatively harmless recreational effects when compared with other legal substances.....
I on the other hand feel it's absolutely an issue the current president and the future one should address at the federal level.
Lastly, I find it odd that some of the proud conservatives on this site don't feel the same given the war on marijuana violates many of the principals they claim so vehemently to espouse. Constitutional rights, government waste, freedom from a too intrusive government, etc. etc...But to each his own I suppose.
I get that some among us aren't that passionate about a failed 40 year war we've been fighting against our own citizens. A war that costs the tax payers billions per year in interdiction, prosecution, and incarceration. A war that places DEA and special forces personnel in proxy wars all over Central and South America illegally. A war that violates constitutional rights of American citizens. A war against a benign weed that has been proven to provide many medicinal effects and relatively harmless recreational effects when compared with other legal substances.....
I on the other hand feel it's absolutely an issue the current president and the future one should address at the federal level.
Lastly, I find it odd that some of the proud conservatives on this site don't feel the same given the war on marijuana violates many of the principals they claim so vehemently to espouse. Constitutional rights, government waste, freedom from a too intrusive government, etc. etc...But to each his own I suppose.
Thank You. As a medical professional, it's an issue that is very close to my heart (and to my nervous system, let me tell you). I've already been fired from a job for testing positive for marijuana. I've been denied employment elsewhere for being up front and honest about my use.
If I were an alcoholic and coming in hung-over every day, my use would not matter to them. Kind of boggles my mind.
An aside ... sort of. Last night I attended a lecture on (among other things) the problems with disposable/single use containers and products (styrofoam, plastic shopping bags etc.). One of the speakers made an observation: "Government is no longer "government" in the true sense of the word. Government has become a corporation ...". I only post this because it reinforces the fact that our elected leaders no longer speak or act for the PEOPLE!
We now return to our usually scheduled programming.