Not so sure. Didn't BigV say he didn't vote for Trump? So this wouldn't apply to him. He seems to love the guy, but didn't vote for him.
That would be correct, I simply can not recall how many times I have stated this. Seems my "Failure" to condemn him and his actions translates into unabashed support....Truth be told (for the umpteenth time) I am just happy as Hell Hillary lost.
This whole thread sends me to bed every night hoping he keeps the Democrats out of the WH a second time. The Dems lost and still can not face that fact.
So you support a lying, criminal, scumbag, whiner?.
If it keeps the Democrats out of the White House?
YES
Am not so sure about that pops42, going back to Dutch’s (Ronald Reagan’s) time, every incumbent except for Geo HW Bush, Reagan’s VP, has been re-elected, usually thru one ‘scandal’ or another
If he was all those things - lying criminal scumbag whiner - he wouldn’t be sitting in office - it’s all nothing new, every president has political enemies who want to undermine him
[Edited on 9/27/2019 by Stephen]
Not so sure. Didn't BigV say he didn't vote for Trump? So this wouldn't apply to him. He seems to love the guy, but didn't vote for him.
That would be correct, I simply can not recall how many times I have stated this. Seems my "Failure" to condemn him and his actions translates into unabashed support....Truth be told (for the umpteenth time) I am just happy as Hell Hillary lost.
This whole thread sends me to bed every night hoping he keeps the Democrats out of the WH a second time. The Dems lost and still can not face that fact.
So you support a lying, criminal, scumbag, whiner?.
If it keeps the Democrats out of the White House?
YES
This is a good thing to keep in mind the next time you float some smug line about personal responsibility and accountability.
You'd rather have a criminal President?
So noted!
The Dems lost and still can not face that fact.
Hillary lost. She'll never be President, so...
Wait. You don't care what anyone-other-than-a-Democrat does.
How do you square your obsession with the word ILLEGAL in one context, and then absolutely not care if the President of the United States is a criminal?
I admire your honesty
Thanks
but it is not normal to be this fearful of a political party. I think you just need someone to blame for whatever is eating at you.
It is not normal to be so concerned about what others think on a musical website
You'd rather have a criminal President?
Accusations vs. Convictions. This is nothing more than the Democrats spending all of their resources looking for something, anything in an attempt to explain how and why they lost.
Nothing more.
You'd rather have a criminal President?
Accusations vs. Convictions. This is nothing more than the Democrats spending all of their resources looking for something, anything in an attempt to explain how and why they lost.
Nothing more.
Yet it wasn't the Democrats using their power to solicit help from the leader of a foreign country to help win an election. Hmmm
You'd rather have a criminal President?
Accusations vs. Convictions. This is nothing more than the Democrats spending all of their resources looking for something, anything in an attempt to explain how and why they lost.
Nothing more.
Yet it wasn't the Democrats using their power to solicit help from the leader of a foreign country to help win an election. Hmmm
What does that matter? 13,000 lies later all is good. An uptick in hate crimes - coincidental with Trump in office - all good. BFF with dictators and murderers and turning our country's back on our allies - all good. Trade wars, tariffs, record deficits - all good in the ways of long term GOP fiscal conservatism. Blatant racism - not a problem. Using the government to pad one's own pocket - all in a day's work. Currying favor in elections and dirt from foreign countries on the competition - very acceptable. Record turnover in key cabinet level positions and in generals surrounding the savant in the White House.
But the most important thing of all - thank goodness the dreaded Hillary is not president. If that was accomplished, absolutely nothing else matters.
2112 - expand your mindset.
Am not so sure about that pops42, going back to Dutch’s (Ronald Reagan’s) time, every incumbent except for Geo HW Bush, Reagan’s VP, has been re-elected, usually thru one ‘scandal’ or another
If he was all those things - lying criminal scumbag whiner - he wouldn’t be sitting in office - it’s all nothing new, every president has political enemies who want to undermine him
[Edited on 9/27/2019 by Stephen]
He won't be sitting there long. I predict he will resign, and cite health problems, rather than face a crushing and humiliating defeat. You cant compare what happened in the past, to what is happening now. It is unprecedented.
[Edited on 9/28/2019 by pops42]
Those damn bone spurs 😛
You'd rather have a criminal President?
Accusations vs. Convictions. This is nothing more than the Democrats spending all of their resources looking for something, anything in an attempt to explain how and why they lost.
Nothing more.
This post isn't holding up too well now.
We'll look back at it in a month.
You'd rather have a criminal President?
Accusations vs. Convictions. This is nothing more than the Democrats spending all of their resources looking for something, anything in an attempt to explain how and why they lost.
Nothing more.
This post isn't holding up too well now.
We'll look back at it in a month.
It's all a left wing media george soro's funded coup ....the media gets up everyday just to lie to us...I was watching the morning news and they said it was gonna rain so I know they're lying so I put on my shorts and I knew it was a god damn conspiracy when I started to get wet...I was looking for the hose that was spraying the water but the cloud were in the way and the water kept getting in my eye...The traffic guy told me there was a traffic jam on my direct route to work...so I took it...I guess they hired a bunch of people to fill the lanes...
I turned on BBC because I was told they told the truth....I had to keep checking the station because it sounded like the people on MSNBC and my morning local news cast...especially when it come to tRump
It's all one big conspiracy...they all lie
Phucking boobs....yeah and we flew planes into our own building and had them wired with bombs so we can be in an endless war....ya know, ya gotta crack a few eggs....
This is the kind of madness that people think and they want people to actually justify that stupidity
[Edited on 9/28/2019 by goldtop]
Am not so sure about that pops42, going back to Dutch’s (Ronald Reagan’s) time, every incumbent except for Geo HW Bush, Reagan’s VP, has been re-elected, usually thru one ‘scandal’ or another
If he was all those things - lying criminal scumbag whiner - he wouldn’t be sitting in office - it’s all nothing new, every president has political enemies who want to undermine him
[Edited on 9/27/2019 by Stephen]
He won't be sitting there long. I predict he will resign, and cite health problems, rather than face a crushing and humiliating defeat. You cant compare what happened in the past, to what is happening now. It is unprecedented.
[Edited on 9/28/2019 by pops42]
I disagree, under similar intense political pressure Nixon resigned in 1974 rather than face what then looked like certain impeachment/ouster - we can always be informed/learn from past history/mistakes etc
What’s your favorite cut off that Gregg Plays Jimmy Smith Favorites recording 😉
[Edited on 9/28/2019 by Stephen]
Do you even know why you are so fearful and affected by Democrats? It’s not that I’m concerned about you personally. I’m concerned with people like you collectively, because for the first time in U.S. history, the people chose to lower their standards for the office of the presidency by filling the position with a mentally unfit criminal demogogue, all because you want to take the easy road of scapegoating your personal demons. Had you all used common sense, pride, and integrity in your strategies, I wouldn’t be saying this. I couldn’t say any of these things had you all chose someone with the required qualities that any leader must possess for such a role.
Too funny, disagree with you and get lectured. See, it can't be something as simple as daring to see things differently.....
But the most important thing of all - thank goodness the dreaded Hillary is not president
Exactly my thought
Too funny, disagree with you and get lectured. See, it can't be something as simple as daring to see things differently.....
It’s just criticism, relax a little. Between your reaction to criticism and your boogie monster Democrats, you are one fragile little boy. Just remember, whenever you feel the need to scapegoat, I’ll be here to help you remember that your diaper is full and needs to be changed.
Nice well thought out retort and all because I disagree with the you.
Tell me again who the child is here.
Congrats Skydog32103, you’re a Peach Pro
- no need for the personal insults tho, none have been directed your way
If the Democrats in Washington think that a House impeachment will hurt Trump's chances at re-election, they are sorely mistaken. That being said, it's good to be on record that someone tried to reject what's going on.
I realize there are segments of America that have valid reasons to vote for Trump - those who have seen their communities be reduced to abandoned wastelands, factory workers who can't find work, opiod addicted families, people with limited resources and abilities. If these people feel a need to blow up the system, then I completely understand. But any American who grew up in a stable home and received a decent education should have much higher standards, not only for the office of the presidency, but for themselves as well.
I feel bad that some people think they deserve to follow someone like Trump, and that they don't see they can have much better. Some people go their whole lives believing that there is someone to blame for their unhappiness, that there is some fantasy standard that all people must be, and those who don't meet that standard are the bad guys. It sounds terrible.
Who the f*ck are you? Shut up.
Too funny, disagree with you and get lectured. See, it can't be something as simple as daring to see things differently.....
It’s just criticism, relax a little. Between your reaction to criticism and your boogie monster Democrats, you are one fragile little boy. Just remember, whenever you feel the need to scapegoat, I’ll be here to help you remember that your diaper is full and needs to be changed.
^^^^
This.
DAMMIT!!!! Every time i go to pay for my 250 2020 Trump bumper sticker's,this site pop's up.Guess i gotta call Nadler to get to the bottom of what's goin on.
Here ya go! Plaster 250 of these all over your rig!
I should take the high road.
I understand, it's new and scary; there's a first time for every behavior.
Here ya go! Plaster 250 of these all over your rig!
Do you have them translated into Ukrainian?
I realize there are segments of America that have valid reasons to vote for Trump - those who have seen their communities be reduced to abandoned wastelands, factory workers who can't find work, opiod addicted families, people with limited resources and abilities. If these people feel a need to blow up the system, then I completely understand. But any American who grew up in a stable home and received a decent education should have much higher standards, not only for the office of the presidency, but for themselves as well.
I suppose you feel that sweeping changes in the conditions you reference were made during the previous administration? Especially for those factory workers...???
You're delusional.
I'll wait for the sanctimonious, insulting reply.
He’s already acknowledged & apologized for all this, no sense in dragging it out all over again
I say let the thread rest until after impeachment, if it gets that far - the thread was started Jan 2017, it can stand to vanish off the pages again for awhile - best wishes, happy Sunday to all
[Edited on 9/29/2019 by Stephen]
I suppose you feel that sweeping changes in the conditions you reference were made during the previous administration? Especially for those factory workers...???
You're delusional.
I'll wait for the sanctimonious, insulting reply.
You can wait, but you're not going to get one. I've never seen you come on here and scapegoat a bunch of decent people. The truth is that no administration in our history has helped these groups that I described, and it sounds like you and I both know that Trump isn't going to help the situation either. The most likely scenario is that these groups are neglected because of the sad reality of an evolving technological workplace and a survival of the fittest world. No government will lift them - people have to lift themselves and evolve with the times, or get left behind. I find it sad that Trump preyed on these folks. If he does one thing in his 8 years, I hope he helps these people. I'll congratulate him if he does.
[Edited on 9/29/2019 by Skydog32103]
My apologies. I guess you are specific in who you respond to in a harsh manner.
I have my own opinions about manufacturing and who failed who. I do think that although technology is largely responsible for the erosion of factory jobs, the biggest reason that there are so many unskilled and skilled workers sitting idle is that the jobs went elsewhere. Take for instance, the textile industry. And why aren't those millions of cell phones being assembled in the USA? I have my own opinions and theories regarding that, too.
No, I don't think Trump is going to help those people, but the parties, organizations, and individuals that they routinely look to have failed them miserably.
I'll ask again without the diatribe
Did anyone not see this coming?
Does the U.S. even have a workforce that is available and ready at a comparable pay-scale and environment as the developing countries?
Not since the Emancipation Proclamation.
My apologies. I guess you are specific in who you respond to in a harsh manner.
No apology needed, but thanks. I make my own reputation here. And yes, you are correct in your assessment.
I have my own opinions about manufacturing and who failed who. I do think that although technology is largely responsible for the erosion of factory jobs, the biggest reason that there are so many unskilled and skilled workers sitting idle is that the jobs went elsewhere. Take for instance, the textile industry. And why aren't those millions of cell phones being assembled in the USA? I have my own opinions and theories regarding that, too.
No, I don't think Trump is going to help those people, but the parties, organizations, and individuals that they routinely look to have failed them miserably.
Agree 100% with all of this. Thriving factory towns used to provide middle class laborers with nice homes, cars, disposable income, and a strong quality of life with pride. Then just as you said, they all closed up and went elsewhere by the 70s or so. I guess the question remains is...why can’t the U.S. produce affordable domestic labor? We know it isn’t a party issue, although I’m sure it does factor into it somewhat.
What’s your theory?
For me, a big part of it is that Americans tend to have higher demands for their pay and working environment. These demands are justified in my opinion, but they become costly, so owners look elsewhere. On one hand, these workers deserve the better pay and conditions, but on the other, an owner should be able to maximize profits for himself too. As long as we have developing countries offering cheap production and labor, what can be done to prevent owners from going there?
Does the U.S. even have a workforce that is available and ready at a comparable pay-scale and environment as the developing countries? I know we have the workers, but will they accept that type of pay and quality of life?
[Edited on 9/30/2019 by Skydog32103]
Some economists and historians have theorized that eventually Capitalism will destroy itself as it searches across the world for cheap, low cost labor and cheap manufacturing inputs. As it races and races around the globe over the course of years, eventually such low cost inputs will no longer exist and thus no one will have the purchasing power to actually buy the goods that keep the entire system running.
It's sort of akin to "racing to the bottom" as the never ending effort to maximize profits causes the entire system to eventually implode. These same economists, historians, social scientist, etc. suggest this is why the world maybe will eventually have to move toward perhaps a basic standard income.
Others suggest we should simply pay people a living wage and thus maintain their purchasing power to continue the cycle. Paying that living wage may consist of pay from your employer along with a basic gov't subsidy. Or some combination of the two along with a shorter work week to create more actual jobs, ect. etc.....
Smart companies understand the race to the bottom and now see the long game and are finding ways to address income inequality, living wages, etc.....
[Edited on 9/30/2019 by Chain]
Some economists and historians have theorized that eventually Capitalism will destroy itself as it searches across the world for cheap, low cost labor and cheap manufacturing inputs.
Maybe so, but I will still choose it 100% of the time over any form of Government that declares Socialism as the answer.
So much for the intelligent dialogue that was developing.
I agree.
Socialism is nothing more than the government doing it's best for the PEOPLE, not the corporations.
I look forward to those evil "socialist" snowplows clearing my road this coming winter.