As someone mentioned in another thread, Barr evidently argued that Iran/Contra was not a crime either. It seems to me he's been a lackey Republican operative his entire career in the beltway so it's not surprising he's providing cover for the latest Republican crook to occupy the White House.
It makes me wonder if he and opportunists like him care at all about the republic, the laws of the land, or in the constitution. It seems to be party first for not just Barr, but many of the slime balls who live in the swamp we call our capital.
As someone mentioned in another thread, Barr evidently argued that Iran/Contra was not a crime either. It seems to me he's been a lackey Republican operative his entire career in the beltway so it's not surprising he's providing cover for the latest Republican crook to occupy the White House.
It makes me wonder if he and opportunists like him care at all about the republic, the laws of the land, or in the constitution. It seems to be party first for not just Barr, but many of the slime balls who live in the swamp we call our capital.
You are right. Nobody should be surprised that one party or the other or any of their representatives have their own motives and agendas.
How many representatives actually care about the republic above their own agendas? There in lies the problem.
One step closer today....tick tock....was bound to happen since he went down the elevator....he's a scum bag people an embarrassment to our country
wha happen?
wha happen?
People not complying with congressional subpoenas while Trump continues to obstruct justice by instructing them to not show up
Yeah saw some of that . They keep revving the engine without a load on it, gonna rattle to pieces.
I guess they also didn't read about the destruction of evidence that took place
E-Mails?
Look, I am not smart enough to know if Trumpty Dumpty will or should be impeached, I can tell You Trumpty and vittually every person in his entire circle and administration have exactly the same lilly white and very Nazi look about them, I suppose that is a good part of his appeal to his supporters? You all knows that these prick lickin low lifes make me want to puke, no need to rehash it, my mom is a 74 year very devout Catholic, I was raised as such, but went Methodist 7 yrs ago to support my grandson and son in law, my mom may come up for Sainthood, she is my Spiritual advisor, I asked her if it was OK for me to Pray for Trumpty to have a huge massive fatal or debilitating heart attack, she shut me down and said no good on that. So it's God's Will that I will ask for..............Peace.........joe
. . .exactly the same lilly white and very Nazi look about them . . .
It isn't just that, not only outward appearance, but you are on to something there. Its a darkness inside. One of these links around here oh yeah the Jared one, sh!t man that guys face scares the crap out of me. I cant believe nobody else can see it, or maybe they can and quick click or scroll away. He just looks flat out evil, sorry I got no other word for it. Yeah and a lot of the administration has that ugly old mean kremlin look.
The Democrats aren't doing anything different than if the Republicans were in charge and the opposition party was in the white house embroiled in scandal and controversy. Democrats in Congress have every right for their investigative and oversight duties and I think the Trump administration is wrong to resist. I do think in some cases the administration has a right to executive privilege, I'm more along the lines of they should not be resisting. And on the other hand, I think the AG has a right and responsibility to investigate the origins of the FBI's focus on Trump and the campaign. The things being discussed are pretty out of the norm, but how the people in charge are acting seems pretty normal, I mean for politics and Washington and all.
Like crazyjoe, I really am not smart enough either to know if Trump should be impeached. I do not know if he obstructed justice, it does appear like he tried and is even doing so right now, but it is a legal determination that I do not have the education, experience or knowledge of all the variables and evidence, both incriminating and exonerating. That is what trials and legal proceedings are for. So if the people in charge want to go down that road, let them. And let those accused and charged defend themselves.
Tick Tock....
If there is evidence shown on the report for future action (possibly the redaction that says Grand Jury), that part does not need to be shown to anyone.
Be funny if there was something about investigations on the committee members under the black ink.
Impeachments pretty dumb idea. It will fail, they got nothing.
Impeachment not happening. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has said they are not looking at that as an option.
The only obstruction that has occurred is he is obstructing the new world order, but that is not an impeachable offense. A psychic has said he will be re-elected in 2020, but will not serve his full term, he will be out of office in 2022, and he did not know how or why at this point.
The only obstruction that has occurred is he is obstructing the new world order . . .
Name one ittybitty thing he has done to obstruct the New World Order. Looks like business as usual to me. You really think a pissant govt bureaucrat at the level of president has any sway over the New World Order? There are "powers and principalities" far above him, and far more powerful. That's like saying the toilet scrubber at the Pentagon could influence global military command.
Mueller is speaking and he's made it clear that he is not exonerating the prez
Tick Tock.....
He's made it clear that the DOJ policy got in the way of making an indictment and that the Constitution has the correct procedure to deal with crimes the prez commits
Tick Tock...
Seems the DOJ is giving up more of the underlying documents...tick tock
Great clock! Kind of a Zen experience watching that.
Tick Tock
Jerry Nadler announced that the US is in formal impeachment proceedings against tRump and a decision on bringing charges will come by the end of the year...
Jerry Nadler announced that the US is in formal impeachment proceedings against tRump and a decision on bringing charges will come by the end of the year...
Won’t this be appealed and overturned by the Senate, like the Clinton impeachment?
Need 67 votes in the Senate to convict. One vote short of a 2/3 majority and the accused is acquitted of all charges.
67 votes in the current Senate (53 Republicans, 45 Democrats, 2 Independents)...yeah, no. It'd have be something so egregious and open and shut regardless of political party...yeah, no.
It'd have be something so egregious and open and shut regardless of political party...yeah, no.
Per Fox News:
The Wall Street Journal reported Friday that, in a July phone call, Trump repeatedly asked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to work with Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani on a probe into Hunter Biden. The call came a month before Trump put a hold on $250 million in military aid to Ukraine -- a hold that was eventually released after objections from the Senate.
I'm a bit baffled by the apparent fear the Trumpster has of Joe Biden. It seems to me the entire appeal of Trump in 2016 was that he wasn't a career insider politician from Washington. That is to say the exact opposite of Joe Biden.
So how hard is it for Trump to capitalize on that theme now and moving forward given Biden proves daily what a long time Washington insider he really is? Instead Trump appears to be engaging in, ironically, the very type of dirt digging politicians always seem to utilize against their potential political rivals.
But then again, Trump certainly has engaged in such "hit job" tactics before....For instance in the case of Obama's birth certificate and the Central Park Five murder several years back...
It'd have be something so egregious and open and shut regardless of political party...yeah, no.
Per Fox News:
The Wall Street Journal reported Friday that, in a July phone call, Trump repeatedly asked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to work with Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani on a probe into Hunter Biden. The call came a month before Trump put a hold on $250 million in military aid to Ukraine -- a hold that was eventually released after objections from the Senate.
This isn’t nearly egregious enough. Need more cut and dried. This one has details too complicated for the uncaring public and campaign shenanigans with foreign governments is accepted process now.
Tick Tock Donny
The election is only 14 mos away, I say let the people impeach Trump at the voting polls next Nov, if the majority feels that way
it would take the politicians longer than that just to organize impeachment efforts - the campaign mudslinging will include most of that
[Edited on 9/24/2019 by Stephen]
Why bother with impeachment if the Senate won’t convict?
I find it absolutely hilarious that the Democrats main focus is on impeachment and not concentrating on one Candidate who can win in November 2020.
Maybe Beto can knock on every door in his home sate and attempt to take guns away from Law abiding citizens.
Or Andrew Yang can get started writing checks for $1,000.
Joe Biden could could start reminding himself to go to his Memory Class.
So much work ahead and so little time.
Soliciting interference from foreign governments in our elections is a good thing and representative of what our founding fathers belived in. They would back Trump to the end just like those in Congress and on this site who see no problem in this and divert. There are far bigger problems than Putin's previous actions and Trump's threatening to withold foreign aid until dirt is dug up on a political opponent. All in a day's work in the new accepted norm of corruption.
[Edited on 9/24/2019 by MartinD28]
Then if it’s that bad, the people will speak next November at the voting booths
Still don’t see the sense in having impeachment proceedings during the presidential election - he might be voted out anyway rendering the whole thing moot
I say forget impeachment for now, pending outcome of election - then, if he Is re-elected, it will prove what BigV said, that they should’ve focused on a viable candidate instead of impeachment, & that the majority was never behind the effort
[Edited on 9/24/2019 by Stephen]
I find it absolutely hilarious that the Democrats main focus is on impeachment and not concentrating on one Candidate who can win in November 2020.
Maybe Beto can knock on every door in his home sate and attempt to take guns away from Law abiding citizens.
Or Andrew Yang can get started writing checks for $1,000.
Joe Biden could could start reminding himself to go to his Memory Class.
Maybe you will one day find something new to post about instead of bigotry towards a entire party because they have different opinions than you do.
What's good for the Goose....
Maybe someday you in turn will not be bothered by the things I post that are directed towards the leadership of Political Party and not at individuals on this board.
If he's impeached and then no conviction, God help us all.