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goldtop
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They should send him to one of those "Summer camps" on the southern border and give him a tinfoil blanket to go with his tinfoil hat

I'd love if we shipped him off to the Hague to stand trial for world crimes against humanity and mass child abuse, along with his entire administration


 
Posted : January 23, 2020 1:48 pm
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Yes traitor works very well for me...What amazes me most is the fact *tRump would phuck any of them sideways and backwards to get what he wants and not give it a second thought....yet they stand there and support the con against themselves with pride to be that ignorant and wave the flag that they are proud of being ignorant

Which is why I, who am NOT a conspiracy theorist in the least, don't understand why even the ones who are in Congress, don't say "this guy is a traitor & a lunatic." Not one. Occasionally, Susan Collins of Maine will make a disgruntled noise. Otherwise, they act like he's the Messiah or more appropriately, the Mafia Don.

I'll tell you why I think they can't say "this guy is a traitor and a lunatic"....They're simply afraid of being voted out of office by the Republican base and losing the power and privilege that comes with being a member of the Congress. In other words, it's purely for their own survival the republic be damned.

Susan Collins, Mitt Romney, Lindsey Graham, and many, many others are cowards plain and simple....

As I've said numerous times, this is exactly why Trump immediately flies off to some wacky rally immediately following any buffoonery he engages in. The rallies are meant to remind Congressional Republicans that the base, especially the red hats, are behind him no matter what stupidity and dangerous behavior he engages in. It's all saber rattling for the Republicans in Congress who know Trump is a traitor.


 
Posted : January 23, 2020 2:24 pm
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Susan Collins, Mitt Romney, Lindsey Graham, and many, many others are cowards plain and simple....

As I've said numerous times, this is exactly why Trump immediately flies off to some wacky rally immediately following any buffoonery he engages in. The rallies are meant to remind Congressional Republicans that the base, especially the red hats, are behind him no matter what stupidity and dangerous behavior he engages in. It's all saber rattling for the Republicans in Congress who know Trump is a traitor.

Lindsey is the worst of the bunch. Went from a Never Trumper to the guy who carries Trump's golf clubs.

The Republicans in Congress do know he's a traitor, but as they don't stand up to him that makes them all complicit traitors and a bunch of big pu$$ies. They sold their souls.


 
Posted : January 23, 2020 2:32 pm
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Rudy Giuliani needs to be locked up

I kept thinking yesterday when the detailed facts of the Ukraine scheme were presented w/the overarching theme of "if you want something from Trump, don't go through official channels, go thru Rudy" that he must've committed a crime somewhere in all those months & he most likely will end up in jail. The bad thing is that Guiliani was once the best US attorney in the SDNY - successfully prosecuting Wall St. & mafia defendants that no one thought could be touched. He peaked. He was a great prosecutor & that's where he should've stayed. It was all downhill after that. He was a lousy mayor & now he's a blowhard's bag man.


 
Posted : January 23, 2020 3:15 pm
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Rudy Giuliani needs to be locked up

I kept thinking yesterday when the detailed facts of the Ukraine scheme were presented w/the overarching theme of "if you want something from Trump, don't go through official channels, go thru Rudy" that he must've committed a crime somewhere in all those months & he most likely will end up in jail. The bad thing is that Guiliani was once the best US attorney in the SDNY - successfully prosecuting Wall St. & mafia defendants that no one thought could be touched. He peaked. He was a great prosecutor & that's where he should've stayed. It was all downhill after that. He was a lousy mayor & now he's a blowhard's bag man.

I keep wondering what's their end game. Most will probably roll over and croak in the few years and the last time I looked there were no luggage racks on coffins so exactly what is it all for? Rudy's revels in being a troll...sounds like a low T problem to me...screaming and acting like an idiot is one of the signs...they just need to get on some good roids and boost their true manhood back up....LOL...sorry I just had to go there...

Look at them all, the manboob trope


 
Posted : January 23, 2020 3:37 pm
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Rudy Giuliani needs to be locked up

I kept thinking yesterday when the detailed facts of the Ukraine scheme were presented w/the overarching theme of "if you want something from Trump, don't go through official channels, go thru Rudy" that he must've committed a crime somewhere in all those months & he most likely will end up in jail. The bad thing is that Guiliani was once the best US attorney in the SDNY - successfully prosecuting Wall St. & mafia defendants that no one thought could be touched. He peaked. He was a great prosecutor & that's where he should've stayed. It was all downhill after that. He was a lousy mayor & now he's a blowhard's bag man.

There's a theme in play here. It's not just Rudy. Seems most individuals who hitch their wagons to Trump end up either on the wrong end of the law (see Flynn), some find jail time (see Cohen & Manafort), and others function in conflict & outside the boundaries and supposed functions of their offices (see - Barr, Pompeo, etc.). This will be their legacy, and history will probably judge them on the negative side. Trump certainly has a skill to spread toxicity to wide range of people; what an admirable management skill.


 
Posted : January 24, 2020 3:27 am
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Rudy Giuliani needs to be locked up

I kept thinking yesterday when the detailed facts of the Ukraine scheme were presented w/the overarching theme of "if you want something from Trump, don't go through official channels, go thru Rudy" that he must've committed a crime somewhere in all those months & he most likely will end up in jail. The bad thing is that Guiliani was once the best US attorney in the SDNY - successfully prosecuting Wall St. & mafia defendants that no one thought could be touched. He peaked. He was a great prosecutor & that's where he should've stayed. It was all downhill after that. He was a lousy mayor & now he's a blowhard's bag man.

I keep wondering what's their end game. Most will probably roll over and croak in the few years and the last time I looked there were no luggage racks on coffins so exactly what is it all for? Rudy's revels in being a troll...sounds like a low T problem to me...screaming and acting like an idiot is one of the signs...they just need to get on some good roids and boost their true manhood back up....LOL...sorry I just had to go there...

Look at them all, the manboob trope

Luggage racks on coffins is a million dollar idea for the rich people who want to take a few things with them when they go. Seriously, it is a novel idea. I'll bet there are people who would like to do that. First women will take purses, then an overnight or weekender bag, and a carry-on for men.


 
Posted : January 27, 2020 1:48 pm
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Just a thought for the day


 
Posted : January 29, 2020 6:54 am
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Luggage racks on coffins is a million dollar idea for the rich people who want to take a few things with them when they go. Seriously, it is a novel idea. I'll bet there are people who would like to do that. First women will take purses, then an overnight or weekender bag, and a carry-on for men.

Sounds like a song I heard -

"In the next life, I'm tryna stay paid
When I die, put my money in the grave"


 
Posted : January 29, 2020 9:55 am
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Luggage racks on coffins is a million dollar idea for the rich people who want to take a few things with them when they go. Seriously, it is a novel idea. I'll bet there are people who would like to do that. First women will take purses, then an overnight or weekender bag, and a carry-on for men.

Sounds like a song I heard -

"In the next life, I'm tryna stay paid
When I die, put my money in the grave"

The only thing I hear is the twilight zone theme on tape loop...do do de da do do de da do do de da do do de da...


 
Posted : January 29, 2020 12:19 pm
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Thought for the day


 
Posted : January 31, 2020 5:26 am
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i think the Democrats in Washington should be spending all of their time and resources on working with the military to have a plan in place to remove him after 2024. the second there is any resistance from anyone in that administration, should result in immediate arrest by military officers.

By then it'll be the US military vs Trump's Russian military.


 
Posted : January 31, 2020 8:08 am
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Inside every republican is a klansmen or natzi waiting to bloom.


 
Posted : January 31, 2020 11:04 am
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Republicans are correct that witnesses aren't needed. what for? we have video of Trump asking for foreign interference multiple times. we know that the right is ok with it. there's no need for documents and witnesses. if the right says they are cool with this, fine, but they had better shut the F up when Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and VP Omar start making calls overseas to go and git McConnell and Graham. Imagine AOC bribing Venezuela to investigate Graham - Graham goes to prison on bogus charges, and the right has to watch AOC and Omar laugh about it on TV and on Twitter everyday. if this happens, the blame would be 100% on the entire right for betraying their country and their God.

Which video are you posting about?


 
Posted : January 31, 2020 11:15 am
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Republicans are correct that witnesses aren't needed. what for? we have video of Trump asking for foreign interference multiple times. we know that the right is ok with it. there's no need for documents and witnesses. if the right says they are cool with this, fine, but they had better shut the F up when Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and VP Omar start making calls overseas to go and git McConnell and Graham. Imagine AOC bribing Venezuela to investigate Graham - Graham goes to prison on bogus charges, and the right has to watch AOC and Omar laugh about it on TV and on Twitter everyday. if this happens, the blame would be 100% on the entire right for betraying their country and their God.

Which video are you posting about?

Are you serious, Jerry? Probably the one from 2016 when your clown candidate says, "Russia, If you're listening..." and the one from last fall when your clown president is walking to a helicopter and stops to tell TV cameras that Biden should be investigated by Ukraine and China.

Nothing at all wrong with that kind of behavior, right?


 
Posted : January 31, 2020 11:31 am
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The most interesting thing about this snoozefest of a "procedure" will be how many in the Senate cross party lines when it is time to Vote.


 
Posted : January 31, 2020 11:38 am
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Which video are you posting about?

Donald Trump: "russia, if you're listening, I hope you find those emails. you'll be mightily rewarded." case closed...treason in the wide open.

I thought you might be talking about this one.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/full-video-trump-order-ukraine-ambassador-yovanovitch_n_5e2cb9eac5b67d8874b2eeaf

Scroll down and watch the video. It's about 1 hour 20 minutes long.


 
Posted : January 31, 2020 11:47 am
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Looks like any President will now be allowed to do whatever he wants as long as his party controls the Senate. 🙁

Party over national interest.

[Edited on 1/31/2020 by LeglizHemp]


 
Posted : January 31, 2020 2:39 pm
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The most interesting thing about this snoozefest of a "procedure" will be how many in the Senate cross party lines when it is time to Vote.

Nothing at all interesting about who crossed party lines as it was predetermined. McConnell decided who needed to do so to ensure their re-election (Collins from Maine) and who was immune from Trump's wrath as he was just elected to a 6 year term (Good ole Mitt Romney from Utah). The coward Lamar from Tennessee feared the wrath of the Republican machine and the Trump syndicate while the spineless one from Alaska is afraid of losing her seat.

McConnell of course blew the dog whistle a few days ago about "Not having the votes to prevent witnesses" just in time to get the Fox News crowd engaged enough to scare the you know what out of Lamar and Claire...In the end it's all about self preservation and to hell with the republic.


 
Posted : January 31, 2020 3:32 pm
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The most interesting thing about this snoozefest of a "procedure" will be how many in the Senate cross party lines when it is time to Vote.

Nothing at all interesting about who crossed party lines as it was predetermined. McConnell decided who needed to do so to ensure their re-election (Collins from Maine) and who was immune from Trump's wrath as he was just elected to a 6 year term (Good ole Mitt Romney from Utah). The coward Lamar from Tennessee feared the wrath of the Republican machine and the Trump syndicate while the spineless one from Alaska is afraid of losing her seat.

McConnell of course blew the dog whistle a few days ago about "Not having the votes to prevent witnesses" just in time to get the Fox News crowd engaged enough to scare the you know what out of Lamar and Claire...In the end it's all about self preservation and to hell with the republic.

His name is Lamar Alexander, he is from Maryville, Tennessee. He previously was governor of Tennessee, President of the University of Tennessee, and Secretary of Education.


 
Posted : January 31, 2020 5:10 pm
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Which video are you posting about?

Donald Trump: "russia, if you're listening, I hope you find those emails. you'll be mightily rewarded." case closed...treason in the wide open.

How the FBI didn't arrest him that day is beyond me. That was my thought the moment I heard him say that...where's the handcuffs...take him away


 
Posted : January 31, 2020 6:25 pm
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Which video are you posting about?

Are you serious, Jerry?

Yes, I was serious since there are several videos about Trump bouncing around the internet.


 
Posted : January 31, 2020 8:15 pm
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The most interesting thing about this snoozefest of a "procedure" will be how many in the Senate cross party lines when it is time to Vote.

Nothing at all interesting about who crossed party lines as it was predetermined. McConnell decided who needed to do so to ensure their re-election (Collins from Maine) and who was immune from Trump's wrath as he was just elected to a 6 year term (Good ole Mitt Romney from Utah). The coward Lamar from Tennessee feared the wrath of the Republican machine and the Trump syndicate while the spineless one from Alaska is afraid of losing her seat.

McConnell of course blew the dog whistle a few days ago about "Not having the votes to prevent witnesses" just in time to get the Fox News crowd engaged enough to scare the you know what out of Lamar and Claire...In the end it's all about self preservation and to hell with the republic.

His name is Lamar Alexander, he is from Maryville, Tennessee. He previously was governor of Tennessee, President of the University of Tennessee, and Secretary of Education.

I would add coward and enabler to your list....Oh, and co-conspirator given he's failed in his duty to uphold the constitution.


 
Posted : February 1, 2020 5:03 am
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In all seriousness, why does the impeachment trial need witnesses? We’ve heard from Bolton. We know what he did. Everybody knows what he did. What more could witnesses add? It’s not a matter of whether he did it or not. It’s a matter of whether people care or not. Remember, he could shoot somebody in the middle of fifth Avenue and not lose a single vote. That is very very very true, so what is the point of witnesses?

It is not a cover-up at all by the Republicans. They are actually open and bragging about what they did. Nor are they denying any of the allegations. This is a direct and open statement to the world. The only way to fight back, per the constitution, is to vote him out. That is it. That is the only option for anything. The only thing we have to truly hope for, is that the United States government enforces a transition of power after his administration has ended. If there is one ounce of resistance from this administration when the time comes to transition the power over to the next president, then we are going to witness the end of the United States.

What anyone "knows" from media isn't the same as having it said under oath in the senate trial & preserved in the Senate record & record of the trial. When lawyers from either side looked back at other impeachment trials, they only had the written record. They didn't read the transcript & then say "oh, but my father told me (because I was 5 then) Monika Lewinsky said X on ABC news, too" or "My great-grandfather told me (because I wasn't born yet) everyone knew Nixon paid Rosemary Woods $$$ to lie about the tapes." The whole point of the trial is to be FAIR TO THE DEFENDANT. The facts are presented by witnesses who are then cross-examined. That was reason for impeachment - stop this rumor, lies, secrecy surrounding the Ukraine issue & have a trial where everything is on the record & under oath, the senators weigh the evidence & vote whether the prez should remain in office. The only official record of Trump's extortion from Ukraine is the impeachment trial transcript. The End. No Appeal.

So far, none of the senators have said anything in the trial - where it counts - that they "knew" Trump did it. They've said it via media but not where it counts. Starting Monday, each senator will be allowed 10 minutes to make a statement. Some may very well say "I believe the facts presented by the House Managers, the prez did it & tried to cover it up, but I don't think he should be removed from office." They could also say he did it & should be removed from office because it meets the constitutional standards or they don't believe he did it because John Bolton didn't come into the chamber & say under oath what the prez did. The issue was never whether the GOP tried to cover up; it was whether Trump - by ignoring subpoenas, refusing to provide documents, & threatening potential witnesses during the HR hearings - abused his position in order to cover it up.

There is an alternative - the judiciary. In this case, there were already trials underway about Trump's non-compliance w/the HR investigation. The HR decided NOT to pursue the issue of witnesses because it could take years for it to make its way through the courts. The president's lawyer told them he would tie them up for years & he admitted he said that in the trial.

The end of the US as we know it will be when ANY president says "I can do anything I want & Congress can't stop me because that's what was said in the Trump trial."


 
Posted : February 1, 2020 5:34 am
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You can call him what you wish. I, in turn, think you are obviously blinded by hatred.To me, he is a principled man with a distinguished career. Read his statement. He offered no support for Trumps's actions.

"If this shallow, hurried and wholly partisan impeachment were to succeed, it would rip the country apart, pouring gasoline on the fire of cultural divisions that already exist. It would create the weapon of perpetual impeachment to be used against future presidents whenever the House of Representatives is of a different political party."

https://www.wate.com/news/national-world/sen-lamar-alexanders-full-statement-on-impeachment-trial-witnesses/


 
Posted : February 1, 2020 5:38 am
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The end of the US as we know it will be when ANY president says "I can do anything I want & Congress can't stop me because that's what was said in the Trump trial."

Congress can, or can in the future, stop a President or remove him...it just depends who is in Congress.

I'm really not surprised that members of one political party are protecting their President. Why would partisan politics surprise anyone at this point? End the duopoly!


 
Posted : February 1, 2020 5:51 am
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You can call him what you wish. I, in turn, think you are obviously blinded by hatred.To me, he is a principled man with a distinguished career. Read his statement. He offered no support for Trumps's actions.

"If this shallow, hurried and wholly partisan impeachment were to succeed, it would rip the country apart, pouring gasoline on the fire of cultural divisions that already exist. It would create the weapon of perpetual impeachment to be used against future presidents whenever the House of Representatives is of a different political party."

https://www.wate.com/news/national-world/sen-lamar-alexanders-full-statement-on-impeachment-trial-witnesses/

So because I observe that his loyalty lies with his party and not the constitution it must be hatred?

It's not hatred, just my opinion that his entire career has been enabled by his membership in the Republican party and in the end that's the group he sided with rather than the republic and the constitution he swore an oath to uphold. And the same party above the country attitude can be said for many Democrats too.


 
Posted : February 1, 2020 6:06 am
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The end of the US as we know it will be when ANY president says "I can do anything I want & Congress can't stop me because that's what was said in the Trump trial."

Congress can, or can in the future, stop a President or remove him...it just depends who is in Congress.

I'm really not surprised that members of one political party are protecting their President. Why would partisan politics surprise anyone at this point? End the duopoly!

I agree on the duopoly issue....I'm a registered Republican and am considering changing my registration to Independent as it's hypocritical of me to bitch about party devotion yet be a member of the same party.


 
Posted : February 1, 2020 6:14 am
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I agree on the duopoly issue....I'm a registered Republican and am considering changing my registration to Independent as it's hypocritical of me to bitch about party devotion yet be a member of the same party.

Excellent theory. If the party w/whom we're aligned ceases to represent our principles, then the affiliation should end. Congress seems to have lost the ability to produce bipartisan legislation it once had. It's worth considering whether elected representatives are acting in our interests or out of fear of party leadership's wrath. The only drawback of becoming Independent is the inability to vote in primaries in some states; that's a small price to pay.


 
Posted : February 1, 2020 7:38 am
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I agree on the duopoly issue....I'm a registered Republican and am considering changing my registration to Independent as it's hypocritical of me to bitch about party devotion yet be a member of the same party.

Excellent theory. If the party w/whom we're aligned ceases to represent our principles, then the affiliation should end. Congress seems to have lost the ability to produce bipartisan legislation it once had. It's worth considering whether elected representatives are acting in our interests or out of fear of party leadership's wrath. The only drawback of becoming Independent is the inability to vote in primaries in some states; that's a small price to pay.

Your last sentence is primarily the reason why i initially registered as Republican many, many years ago. Here in very rural, very upstate, NY, the Republican party rules local elections and most of local government and so I determined at the time that I wanted a small say in the primary process.

I did also believe in some of what the Republican party at that time at least represented but find the older I've gotten and the more the Republican party has drifted away from my beliefs the less I support it. Frankly I should have changed my affiliation a long time ago.


 
Posted : February 1, 2020 8:39 am
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