tRUMP associate Roger Stone found guilty.
Ruh roh.
He is bad guy. Done a lot of bad things. Seems they caught up with him.
Roger Stone is going to like prison.
He and his wife used to place "racy" ads in publications. 😮
You can't make this stuff up.
Making America Great Again, getting rid of the skumbags.
The latest statement from a state diplomat that heard the call between Sondland and tRump
"Holmes testified that he asked Sondland why Trump did not "give a s--t about Ukraine."
Holmes said Sondland responded Trump only cares about "big stuff." When Holmes said that the Ukraine war was big, Sondland "big stuff" that benefits the President, like the Biden investigation
All in one day...witness intimidation and first hand witnesses testimony to tRump back door dealings
I suppose it's a good thing Roger likes c*ck as he's going to get a lot of it...Until Caligula pardons him.
Lt Co Vindman's today at the end of his opening statement
"Dad, my sitting here today, in the US Capitol talking to our elected officials is proof that you made the right decision forty years ago to leave the Soviet Union ... Do not worry, I will be fine for telling the truth."
The US Army is relocating Lt Col Vindman and his family to a secure facility due to the threats from Trump and his supporters. This man is a Purple heart recipient and the GOP have tried to say he has duel loyalties.
When you can't defend the crime attack the witness. Today is a great day for the truth and for the conspiracy idiots to find a new roll of tinfoil for their next hat trick
[Edited on 11/19/2019 by goldtop]
The US Army is relocating Lt Col Vindman and his family to a secure facility due to the threats from Trump and his supporters. This man is a Purple heart recipient and the GOP have tried to say he has duel loyalties.
When you can't defend the crime attack the witness. Today is a great day for the truth and for the conspiracy idiots to find a new roll of tinfoil for their next hat trick
[Edited on 11/19/2019 by goldtop]
Ron Johnson, U.S Senator from Wisconsin is amongst Trump's attack dogs going after Lt Col Vindman. Vindman is a true American hero who has to be drug through the mud by draft dodgers and Trump sycophants / conspiracy theory nuts. This is so shameful to witness this happen to a Purple Heart Recipient. Below from the "esteemed" senator:
“A significant number of bureaucrats and staff members within the executive branch have never accepted President Trump as legitimate and recent his unorthodox style and intrusion on to his turf. They react by leak together press and participating in the ongoing effort sabotage his policies and if possible remove him from office. It is entirely possible that Vindman fits this profile .”
Wow, Nunes is worthless. No questions. He definately doesn't want any answers.
Wow, Nunes is worthless. No questions. He definately doesn't want any answers.
He's rambin' on right now. It's amazing how low they will go to save tRump like there isn't someone better qualified among the GOP. Someone with some dignity, morals, ethic, humanity, intelligence. Nope scrap the whale shi$ off the bottom of the ocean paint it orange put some blond hair on it make it speak like the idiot at the end of the bar that screams at the TV. Yeah...they like the way he talks....
You all seem to forget who works for who here. Vindman is no hero. He is insubordinate at best. He should be relieved of his duties, yes fired. So he doesn't agree with Trumps Policies. Quiting is the only honorable thing he could have done. Instead he will assist the dims with their effort to remove a President because he thinks the President's actions were inappropriate? INAPPROPRIATE the new high crime or misdemeanor?
No time to list all of Obama's inappropriate moves, let alone Clintons. What is bad is these witnesses WILL NOT acknowledge that Trump has done more for Ukraine in 3 yrs than Obama did in 8. They just want him out of office and they know they don't have the votes to do it properly, VIA ELECTION.
"I'm afraid if we don't impeach this president that he will get re-elected" Rep AL Green (D)
[Edited on 11/19/2019 by KCJimmy]
You all seem to forget who works for who here. Vindman is no hero. He is insubordinate at best. He should be relieved of his duties, yes fired. So he doesn't agree with Trumps Policies. Quiting is the only honorable thing he could have done. Instead he will assist the dims with their effort to remove a President because he thinks the President's actions were inappropriate? INAPPROPRIATE the new high crime or misdemeanor?
No time to list all of Obama's inappropriate moves, let alone Clintons. What is bad is these witnesses WILL NOT acknowledge that Trump has done more for Ukraine in 3 yrs than Obama did in 8. They just want him out of office and they know they don't have the votes to do it properly, VIA ELECTION.
"I'm afraid if we don't impeach this president that we will get re-elected" Rep AL Green (D)
What you are saying is that you would be completely satisfied with a Democrat doing what Trump is accused of and has basically admitted. Right?
Here is the thing - the Republicans in the Senate would rather take a dump in their own lunchbuckets than vote to convict Trump when this goes over to them. As a result, Trump isn't going anywhere before the election. This episode is rightfully being investigated right now, as I am sure you would want to happen if a Democrat was attempting to do the same thing. The Senate will save Trump. You'll get to vote for him again if you believe he is so great.
Vindman reported something that he believes to be illegal to the appropriate lawyer in the White House. He IS doing his job. He works for the United States, not the Trump Campaign.
Amazing that Trump supporters can bash people who have actually served the country and sacrificed while cheering for a grifter who has only ever had self-serving interests. Pretty sick!
What you are saying is that you would be completely satisfied with a Democrat doing what Trump is accused of and has basically admitted. Right?
Correct. You don't impeach over policy differences. We had 2 1/2 years of Mueller investigating 2016 election interference, to no avail. But how dare Trump ask Ukraine to look into the EXACT same subject from a different angle.
Here is the thing - there are Democrats in the House that would rather take a dump in their own lunch buckets than vote to impeach Trump right before an election. So I KNOW Trump isn't going anywhere. It is questionable as to whether this thing even gets to the Senate. And if it does, 3 of the top candidates on the Dem side will have to take time off to participate. They are GAURANTEEING Trumps victory in 2020. I say they know they can't beat him anyway so WTH?
The truth will come out eventually and no doubt there will be some other urgent reason to get rid of Trump by any means other than an election.
"I'm afraid if we don't impeach this president that he will get re-elected" Rep AL Green (D)
You all seem to forget who works for who here. Vindman is no hero. He is insubordinate at best. He should be relieved of his duties, yes fired. So he doesn't agree with Trumps Policies. Quiting is the only honorable thing he could have done. Instead he will assist the dims with their effort to remove a President because he thinks the President's actions were inappropriate? INAPPROPRIATE the new high crime or misdemeanor?
You seem to forget that Vindman and all other US government employees loyalty should be to defend the US, not necessarily the president. I seem to remember when one of the generals criticized Obama we heard the Republicans cheer. Well, I never got the impression during the testimony that Vindman was out to get President Trump. He wrote the talking points for the president so the president could do a good job. He seemed to me to be a loyal American patriot, doing his job the best he could, and I never got the impression that he lied or tried to mislead.
They are GAURANTEEING Trumps victory in 2020.
That explains why the Redhats are so overjoyed right now.
As soon as I see evidence of a crime I will let you know
They are GAURANTEEING Trumps victory in 2020.
That explains why the Redhats are so overjoyed right now.
As soon as I see evidence of a crime I will let you know
You are so deep in the cult that there is NOTHING that Trump could do that you would consider a crime.
They are GAURANTEEING Trumps victory in 2020.
That explains why the Redhats are so overjoyed right now.
As soon as I see evidence of a crime I will let you know
So you are in the "investigation" business now?
You may want to read the below, as it might expand your horizons:
"You don't have to break a law to be impeached. Trump's defenders need a better argument.
The Founders made clear that an impeachable or convictable offense need not be a crime. Hamilton said it applied to 'the misconduct of public men.' "
Just wait til Trump leaves office, for whatever reason - even if he rules until 2024 - there will be Redhats cracking all over the place as it becomes clear that democracy survived and the Thousand Year Trump Dynasty won't happen after all.
There's always Barron.
What you are saying is that you would be completely satisfied with a Democrat doing what Trump is accused of and has basically admitted. Right?
Correct. You don't impeach over policy differences. We had 2 1/2 years of Mueller investigating 2016 election interference, to no avail. But how dare Trump ask Ukraine to look into the EXACT same subject from a different angle.
Here is the thing - there are Democrats in the House that would rather take a dump in their own lunch buckets than vote to impeach Trump right before an election. So I KNOW Trump isn't going anywhere. It is questionable as to whether this thing even gets to the Senate. And if it does, 3 of the top candidates on the Dem side will have to take time off to participate. They are GAURANTEEING Trumps victory in 2020. I say they know they can't beat him anyway so WTH?
The truth will come out eventually and no doubt there will be some other urgent reason to get rid of Trump by any means other than an election.
"I'm afraid if we don't impeach this president that he will get re-elected" Rep AL Green (D)
There are all kinds of policy differences. So far, this is the only one known to involve a bribery scheme. To act like the inquiry is about a policy difference is a real stretch. Why are there not 300 impeachment inquiries? There are at least that many policy differences.
The interference wasn't just investigated by Mueller. All 17 of the US intelligence agencies have agreed that it was Russia. Dan Coates, Trump's own Director of National Intelligence has stated many times that it was Russia. The Ukraine "angle' is a conspiracy theory. I don't care if someone in Ukraine looks into it, but that should not be what our aid money to them is conditioned on.
Why would you want to get an 18th opinion from a foreign country? Do you not trust the guy that Trump hired to be the DNI originally? I am no fan of Dan Coates, but I think I would rather trust him over someone in Ukraine. Also, why are you okay with the president chasing conspiracy theories rather than "saving clean beautiful coal" or some other crazy promise to the voters?
Sondland is throwing everyone under the bus this morning...admitted there was extortion to get aid
“Everyone was in the loop.”— Gordon Sondland
Sondland just got to a core issue - Trump didn’t want the Biden investigation, just the *announcement* of the investigation: “(Pres. Zelensky) had to announce the investigations. He didn’t actually have to do them.”
Yep he just wanted gas to drive his engine during the campaign and use the media against Biden
Pops42 anyone who support DT is scum....the justifications for why I couldn't care less about. The fact that they like any of it speaks volumes to the lack of values, morals and ethics any of them have.
Remember they like the way he "Talks"....like a 3 year old having a tantrum
Very damaging testimony to Trump. This guy was obviously friends to Trump, and reminded me of Trump in many ways. The fact that they were primarily concerned with an announcement of an investigation, without actually having to do one, blows a hole in the argument that this was about corruption and not about getting dirt on a political rival.
Sondland is throwing everyone under the bus this morning...admitted there was extortion to get aid
Sondland has a wise lawyer who must have told him now is the time to fess up. They saw what lying to Congress does - look at what happended to Roger Stone. Sondland decided he didn't want to share soap with Roger so he spoke the truth...finally.
I can only imagine Trump attacking him like the other attacks he does on a daily basis. Then it will be that Trump barely knows him. In the meantime, Rudy and Pompeo are fine guys.
It’s amazing when you think about it, that Trump could’ve had everything. He could have been the most powerful president we’ve ever seen. [Edited on 11/20/2019 by Skydog32103]
No, his personality won't allow him to see opportunity and play a long game w/his ego in check. I still contend that Trump was as surprised as anyone (well, Melania was more surprised) that he won & he was completely unprepared to assume office. I actually thought he would resign in frustration after 2 weeks once he learned there were constraints on his power unlike his kingdom at Trump Tower. He simply cannot control himself nor take the advice of others who have actual expertise. He persists in his "stable genius" delusion & his only defense to criticism/accusations translates as paranoia.
Nunes is tRump's lap dog.
Nunes is almost as bad as tRump.
SAD!
Sondland has a wise lawyer who must have told him now is the time to fess up. They saw what lying to Congress does - look at what happended to Roger Stone. Sondland decided he didn't want to share soap with Roger so he spoke the truth...finally.
Sondland seems to be a smart guy on his own. He's a SUCCESSFUL hotel owner (as opposed to Trump), money manager, and active Republic (w/a short foray for the Dems) and he's not blinded by Trump as so many of the others are. He could've easily decided that his 1/2 truths and amendments in previous testimony wasn't going to cut it & now is the time to not only fess up but note that his testimony, including today's, was hindered by a lack of documents he repeatedly requested but didn't receive from DJT. He, indeed, threw all of them, including Trump & Pence, under the bus. His contempt for Rudy Who? was palpable even in his written remarks.
Prior to getting into the swamp of the Trump administration - even as an off-site ambassador - he appeared respectable. Successful hotel portfolio, philanthropist, married to the same woman for decades w/2 kids, & solid State of Washington citizen. He's got more $ than Trump, a far better reputation, & isn't a career politician. He's exactly the kind of guy who can say "No, I'm not going to be ruined or jailed" for Trump because of his wealth & position. He's not like a lot of the others who need Trump for his "base" or political blessing. He can come out of this tainted but not ruined. His lawyers wrote an excellent opening statement that reminded everyone of his Holocaust roots straight thru to his "shock" at having a shyster like Rudy Who? meddling in foreign relations.
Pops42 anyone who support DT is scum....the justifications for why I couldn't care less about. The fact that they like any of it speaks volumes to the lack of values, morals and ethics any of them have.
Remember they like the way he "Talks"....like a 3 year old having a tantrum
I have to agree. If you think this guy is even remotely acceptable to be president, you have a real problem... no matter how bad you hate Hillary Clinton. He was not qualified and refuses to attempt to learn what it takes to do the job. He literally has a compulsion to lie and cheat.
Sondland is throwing everyone under the bus this morning...admitted there was extortion to get aid
Sondland has a wise lawyer who must have told him now is the time to fess up. They saw what lying to Congress does - look at what happended to Roger Stone. Sondland decided he didn't want to share soap with Roger so he spoke the truth...finally.
I can only imagine Trump attacking him like the other attacks he does on a daily basis. Then it will be that Trump barely knows him. In the meantime, Rudy and Pompeo are fine guys.
Right on target and expected as with anyone in the Trump orbit who speaks truth against Trump. Of course Trump doesn't know him well. If Sondland would have backed Trump today, Trump would have claimed how close they were and that Sondland was an honorable man... just like Rudy, Lev Parnas, and Igor Fruman.
"President Donald Trump said Gordon Sondland “is not a man I know well,” as his ambassador to the European Union delivered bombshell testimony to the House impeachment panel Wednesday."
Right on target and expected as with anyone in the Trump orbit who speaks truth against Trump. Of course Trump doesn't know him well.
He's pathetically predictable. It's not even a strategy; it's a reflex. In September, Trump said Sondland was "a really good man and great American." Today, it's "I barely know the guy."