They see the tides changing with immigration no longer coming from western European countries. They see what they call the "browning" of America happening in front of their face and they don't like that those people will most likely vote democratic. So cheating to save the white world from reality and the destruction of our democracy is their chosen direction.
Color is probably part of the story, but I think it’s also about their perceived threat of immigrants in general, in terms of jobs, especially for the working class folks. This fear is certainly understandable - their livelihood is at stake.
Yet in some cases the immigrants are taking the jobs that many Americans choose not to take. It's easier to accept gov't assistance, wear a MAGA hat, and bitch about immigration.
They see the tides changing with immigration no longer coming from western European countries. They see what they call the "browning" of America happening in front of their face and they don't like that those people will most likely vote democratic. So cheating to save the white world from reality and the destruction of our democracy is their chosen direction.
Color is probably part of the story, but I think it’s also about their perceived threat of immigrants in general, in terms of jobs, especially for the working class folks. This fear is certainly understandable - their livelihood is at stake.
Most of the jobs immigrants take are jobs we generally reject, field work, janitorial, restaurant cleaning jobs. Some start their own businesses. Both my grandfathers owned their own business. One was a commercial fisherman(A green card holder) and the other was a fruit merchant. I'm not sure of his status because he died when my dad was 11 in 1933. None of my grandparents spoke English, maybe just a few words. Like most immigrants they lived within their community and tried to service both their community but also try to assimilate and offer their services to all Americans.
There is so much muck that isn't true that are just talking points
First and foremost I wish them to follow the LAW when entering this country as my Fiancee and myself are doing.
"Casado hoy, divorcio mañana!" Married today, divorce tomorrow Oldest immigration trick in the book. Perfectly legal of course. Not only does she get to be a citizen, she'll get half of all your property.
Run away, brother! Warning Will Robinson! Danger! Danger!
[Edited on 10/4/2019 by BrerRabbit]
Probably will happen to DT after he's arrested and jailed. Hopefully for BIGV that doesn't happen I wish nothing bad on anyone here...
They see the tides changing with immigration no longer coming from western European countries. They see what they call the "browning" of America happening in front of their face and they don't like that those people will most likely vote democratic. So cheating to save the white world from reality and the destruction of our democracy is their chosen direction.
Color is probably part of the story, but I think it’s also about their perceived threat of immigrants in general, in terms of jobs, especially for the working class folks. This fear is certainly understandable - their livelihood is at stake.
Yet in some cases the immigrants are taking the jobs that many Americans choose not to take. It's easier to accept gov't assistance, wear a MAGA hat, and bitch about immigration.
In most cases. The MAGA's refuse to re-educate themselves to the current needs and want to hold on to old jobs that are going away. Instead of embracing green tech and creating new jobs they resist. Not all green tech will pan out but the cream always rises to the top and then there will be a huge number of jobs along with all the support jobs that get created.
If we could also pass a comprehensiveness infrastructure bill there would be a huge boom in the economy
If your job is a buggy whip maker ya might want to look into a job education program
Most of the jobs immigrants take are jobs we generally reject, field work, janitorial, restaurant cleaning jobs.
But we can't ignore perhaps one of the biggest and most important industries - construction and labor, a.k.a. the working man, which are jobs Americans do want and need. Immigrants are heavily involved in the construction and labor industry, which also happens to be the traditional career for the blue collar American. I'm only exploring this side of the argument to play devil's advocate. I'm suggesting anyone in Washington, whether Republican or Democrat, to craft a campaign to address these fears among the American working class, so that they don't feel a need to follow a snake like Trump, who has only preyed on them for his own ego.
I guess we can make the same argument for IT, doctors and a lot of other jobs here in the US. I live in an extremely diverse area, The Silicon Valley. I teach a piano class at the local adult ed center and I'm the only white person in the room most semesters. Most of my students are from India and Asian countries as are my private students and the people I do Piano tuning work for. The only time I generally interact with other white people is at family events and home, and my wife is an immigrant from Portugal. Her family came here in 1959 and she is a naturalized citizen. She was a green card holder from the age of 4 until 12. Her family had a sponsor when they came.
They see the tides changing with immigration no longer coming from western European countries. They see what they call the "browning" of America happening in front of their face and they don't like that those people will most likely vote democratic. So cheating to save the white world from reality and the destruction of our democracy is their chosen direction.
Color is probably part of the story, but I think it’s also about their perceived threat of immigrants in general, in terms of jobs, especially for the working class folks. This fear is certainly understandable - their livelihood is at stake.
Most of the jobs immigrants take are jobs we generally reject, field work, janitorial, restaurant cleaning jobs. Some start their own businesses. Both my grandfathers owned their own business. One was a commercial fisherman(A green card holder) and the other was a fruit merchant. I'm not sure of his status because he died when my dad was 11 in 1933. None of my grandparents spoke English, maybe just a few words. Like most immigrants they lived within their community and tried to service both their community but also try to assimilate and offer their services to all Americans.
There is so much muck that isn't true that are just talking points
First and foremost I wish them to follow the LAW when entering this country as my Fiancee and myself are doing.
"Casado hoy, divorcio mañana!" Married today, divorce tomorrow Oldest immigration trick in the book. Perfectly legal of course. Not only does she get to be a citizen, she'll get half of all your property.
Run away, brother! Warning Will Robinson! Danger! Danger!
[Edited on 10/4/2019 by BrerRabbit]
Probably will happen to DT after he's arrested and jailed. Hopefully for BIGV that doesn't happen I wish nothing bad on anyone here...
They see the tides changing with immigration no longer coming from western European countries. They see what they call the "browning" of America happening in front of their face and they don't like that those people will most likely vote democratic. So cheating to save the white world from reality and the destruction of our democracy is their chosen direction.
Color is probably part of the story, but I think it’s also about their perceived threat of immigrants in general, in terms of jobs, especially for the working class folks. This fear is certainly understandable - their livelihood is at stake.
Yet in some cases the immigrants are taking the jobs that many Americans choose not to take. It's easier to accept gov't assistance, wear a MAGA hat, and bitch about immigration.
In most cases. The MAGA's refuse to re-educate themselves to the current needs and want to hold on to old jobs that are going away. Instead of embracing green tech and creating new jobs they resist. Not all green tech will pan out but the cream always rises to the top and then there will be a huge number of jobs along with all the support jobs that get created.
If we could also pass a comprehensiveness infrastructure bill there would be a huge boom in the economy
If your job is a buggy whip maker ya might want to look into a job education program
EGG ZAKK LEE!
If those poor, unemployed coal miners want a safer, more meaningful job, they should learn to install solar panels.
Good strategy for the President to ignore Pelosi and Schiff and their fishing expedition. See you in court, where evidence matters, not just Russia collusion part 2.
Suppose they impeached Trump AFTER (hypothetically) He Was Re Elected
Wouldn’t re election, by Constitutional bylaws/provisos/language etc - take precedence over impeachment, thus rendering null & void the whole proce$$$$$$$$
Altho RM Nixon was re elected by a huge plurality, only to soon be shown the Watergate door - Trump’s detractors will always be around
still seems as tho the most surefire way to remove Pres. Trump from office is not the impeach-&-ouster route - but at the polls next Nov - vox populi baby
Dems should learn from their mistake in that 1972 election - without a strong candidate, shaky & uncertain VP candidates,......
Overall, no telling how long impeachment will take
[Edited on 10/9/2019 by Stephen]
Good strategy for the President to ignore Pelosi and Schiff and their fishing expedition.
It is a brilliant strategy to ignore everything. Too bad Clinton didn't think about it with all the fishing explorations the Republicans went on. For now on, we can expect all presidents to feel that they are above the law and ignore all subpoenas and call everything executive privilege. I have to give Trump credit, he has mastered the art of the con.
Suppose they impeached Trump AFTER (hypothetically) He Was Re Elected
[Edited on 10/9/2019 by Stephen]
There are legal & political scholars who consider Trump ineligible to be on the 2020 ballot since he attempted & continues to attempt to TAMPER WITH THAT ELECTION. He doesn't have to be impeached to be kept off the ballot - he asked for China's assistance in investigating his perceived political rival on TV & his personal lawyer talks openly about the requests to China and the Ukraine. Parties in each states decide who is allowed on their ballots.
Although GOP Congressmen may not be willing to cross him, the state party chairs may. I don't think it will happen in all 50 states, but it's an interesting idea.
I hate to say it, but if the Democrats didn’t expect and have a plan in place for his defiance, then they don’t really deserve to win. It was obvious to me he’d refuse everything and make them go in there with law enforcement to physically remove him. If they aren’t prepared to do this then they messed up.
All he’s doing now is watching Fox News and rage tweeting. There’s no hurry.
Suppose they impeached Trump AFTER (hypothetically) He Was Re Elected
[Edited on 10/9/2019 by Stephen]There are legal & political scholars who consider Trump ineligible to be on the 2020 ballot since he attempted & continues to attempt to TAMPER WITH THAT ELECTION. He doesn't have to be impeached to be kept off the ballot - he asked for China's assistance in investigating his perceived political rival on TV & his personal lawyer talks openly about the requests to China and the Ukraine. Parties in each states decide who is allowed on their ballots.
Although GOP Congressmen may not be willing to cross him, the state party chairs may. I don't think it will happen in all 50 states, but it's an interesting idea.
Yes it is - ineligibility sounds like as plausible a process as impeachment
In that scenario, a vacated GOP ticket would have them scrambling for a replacement ticket - this would enhance chances of the Democratic nominee being elected, it’d seem
Any-way, a lot coming down the political pike in the coming year - surprising Trump’s lawyers aren’t advising him of the hole he’s digging for himself
- surprising Trump’s lawyers aren’t advising him of the hole he’s digging for himself
Remember, Guiliani aka SNL's Kate McKinnon is his lawyer - crazier than Trump.
This thread is a living document of the lefts obsession over impeachment. No one here needs to see any evidence apparently to reach this conclusion. You cant change 2016. Hillary may try again though.
New Quinnipiac poll:
After another week with impeachment in the news, registered voters nationwide are still divided on impeaching and removing President Trump from office, with 45 percent saying he should be impeached and removed and 49 percent opposing the idea, according to a Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pea-ack) University national poll released today.
https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=3643
This thread is a living document of the lefts obsession over impeachment. No one here needs to see any evidence apparently to reach this conclusion. You cant change 2016. Hillary may try again though.
There is plenty of evidence, you just refuse to see it. Trump went on TV and doubled down, saying China should also look for info on Biden along with the Ukraine. Maybe you should look up what is impeachable.....like asking a foreign country for information on an opponent to influence a US election, for starters...
Hillary may try again though.
May?
New Quinnipiac poll:
After another week with impeachment in the news, registered voters nationwide are still divided on impeaching and removing President Trump from office, with 45 percent saying he should be impeached and removed and 49 percent opposing the idea, according to a Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pea-ack) University national poll released today.
State Run TV's poll shows more in favor of impeachment - quite a statement coming from a FOX poll.
"Fox News Poll: Record support for Trump impeachment"
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-for-trump-impeachment
Rage tweeting continues. Such a good thing for America that he watches so much TV with his phone in hand. So inspirational.
Rage tweeting continues. Such a good thing for America that he watches so much TV with his phone in hand. So inspirational.
Such a waste of time - his obsession with TV and tweeting when real work of the country needs to be done as opposed to protecting himself and attacking others which are his greatest attributes.
All of this from the self described stable genius.
Below is a recent post. Note the "that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom"
"As I have stated strongly before, and just to reiterate, if Turkey does anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off limits, I will totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey (I’ve done before!). They must, with Europe and others, watch over..."
anyone at anytime who thought DT was qualified had/has and will always have their head shoved firmly up their azz...and they simply need to own that fact...EOS for me and everything else is just a lame justification for being an ignorant azzhole
How anyone can justify any of this is beyond rational
when real work of the country needs to be done
My taxes are low, Gas is affordable as is food, we're not at war......
"As I have stated strongly before, and just to reiterate, if Turkey does anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off limits, I will totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey (I’ve done before!). They must, with Europe and others, watch over..."
His great and unmatched wisdom - that leads him to protect his investment of Trump Towers Istanbul. I have to say my first thought when I read that line was of the great & powerful Wizard of Oz.
He must get no sleep based on the time stamps of his tweets.
There is plenty of evidence, you just refuse to see it. Trump went on TV and doubled down, saying China should also look for info on Biden along with the Ukraine. Maybe you should look up what is impeachable.....like asking a foreign country for information on an opponent to influence a US election, for starters...
So, some of Guiliani's Ukraine "influencers" have been arrested while another is at large. The indictment provides ample evidence of funneling money to Congressman-1 and other campaigns through shell companies and just plain lying.
Maybe you will one day find something new to post about instead of bigotry towards a entire party because they have different opinions than you do.
I doubt it. And a point of clarification, I would say this is exactly why we vote.."because they have different opinions than you do"...Is this not why people choose one party over another?...
Why are you NOT a Republican?
If I find fault in almost every issue Democrats stand behind, how does this even remotely affect you?
"Bigotry"?...lol, very similar to another poster here who embraced the jargon "Concentration Camps" for the affair at the border....
The decisions being made regarding the Kurds may end up being a much bigger problem for Trump.
How do we get the weapons out of the hands of the bad guys?
The current system allows for all disturbed liberal entitled millenials, who have never had a job, who blame mommy, daddy, and Trump for all of their problems, as well as any other crazy disturbed individual, to buy multiple AR-15s and unlimited ammunition....simply because they don't have a criminal record. You mock a solution to this problem because it won't solve the black market sub-issue....maybe you have no room to be laughing at anyone.
This has been my point all along; sane, Law abiding individuals are not the ones committing these heinous acts. It is a difficult issue with no easy solution; taking guns away from people who do not abuse the Law is not the way to go. Come up with a means to keep these weapons out of the hands of the mentally disturbed and we'll be in agreement.
I don't see any legislation being drafted that the WH might accept especially with phase two of the Coup underway. Americans wanted common sense legislation, its dead now. Along with any help on prescription drug prices. Such is the state of politics in our country now.
"Americans wanted common sense legislation, its dead now."
Disagree, people who hate guns want this. Americans believe in the Constitution.
The House has passed over 400 bills since the midterms that McConnell hasn't brought to the floor of the Senate. No one's interested in "getting anything done," regardless of issue.
anyone at anytime who thought DT was qualified had/has and will always have their head shoved firmly up their azz...and they simply need to own that fact...EOS for me and everything else is just a lame justification for being an ignorant azzhole
How anyone can justify any of this is beyond rational
Easy. Hillary isn't President and no matter what Trump does, legal or illegal, they'll always hate liberals more. There you go.
I don't understand how anyone can support Trump. Period.
And the other half of the Country does not understand how anyone can Vote in line with Democratic ideals and values. Period.
He spoke for himself by using the word "I". Why would you say, "and the other half of the country" in response?
Simply responding to the poster who used "I" when referencing "Anyone" which in this case is roughly "half the Country"....
The decisions being made regarding the Kurds may end up being a much bigger problem for Trump.
Doubtful. The GOP Senators may speak out initially against Trump for doing another favor for Putin, but in the end good little boys will fall in line, or they will feel the wrath of the tweet.
Gets more entertaining by the minute.
"Rick Perry subpoenaed."
"GOP congressman 'heartbroken' over President's Syria moves and says he no longer supports Trump."
"Giuliani had lunch with 2 indicted associates at Trump hotel just before their arrest."
The noose is tightening...