The Chicago Tribune and Houston Chronicle have background info. On George Floyd. He is survived by two daughters [different Mothers], a six year old Gianna Floyd, her Mom, Roxie Washington in Houston. He moved to Minneapolis when his long time friend, Christopher Harris told him to come there that there were jobs. He lost his job in Houston because of the Covid-19 shutdown. He worked two jobs most the time once he arrived, security at the Salvation Army, driving trucks, as a bouncer at a Conga Latin Bistro where the owner had only flattering things to say like he was always cheerful, had a good attitude, was a Gentle Giant.
Was he an angel? Well he did have an arrest for armed robbery in a home invasion in Texas in 2007. He got 5 years on a plea deal.
Other than that one incident there is nothing else except someone trying to work hard help support two children. He should not be dead like this. He was already handcuffed there was no need to keep him on the ground and cut off his airway. We have seen the videos.
The policeman had 18 previous complaints against him 12 of which were for police brutality. The nature and substance of those complaints and dispositions are not known at this time.
[Edited on 5/29/2020 by gina]
Sh!tload of great posts here!!! Stay on it People...............and stay away from other Peoples........joe
Furthermore was the arrest of Omar Jimenez, CNN Reporter and his team. He identified himself and was still arrested while live television coverage was rolling.
Https://www.Twitter.com/OmarJimenez
He needs a PRESS vest like they wear while on assignment in places like Afghanistan. In a riot area a bulletproof vest would be nice but at least something like the vests used by Marathon runners to identify them from a distance. There are those who may dislike CNN, so just have PRESS on it usually it is dark blue with white lettering so they are easily identified.
He could have been shot. This is very serious. Even Mahmoud Ahmadinejad former head of Iran commented on the killing of George Floyd.
Violence needs to stop, but I do understand when people feel like they have no choice they will use anything they have, like their bodies in Palestine to protest. Someone recently said we need to think about this because what cop in broad daylight would do this where there were witnesses? Why would he risk losing his pension? Christopher Harris was one of the guys with George Floyd. He was wearing the red pants and white shirt and was getting arrested for no real reason. What happened to him?
[Edited on 5/29/2020 by gina]
Https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/29/US/Minneapolis-protests-George-Floyd-death.html
Protests in NYC had 72 arrested yesterday. Protests continued today. Erroll Garner's Mom attended. Al Sharpton is heading to Minneapolis. The National Guard there instituted an 8 pm curfew. The White House, the Trump White House was put on lockdown by Secret Service, protests there too at Lafayette Park and Pennsylvania Avenue. Reporters not allowed to leave. They are in the Press Briefing room. There is a CNN reporter in there, sure hope Jim Acosta is not stuck there too. LOCKDOWN LIFTED.
Other officers identified at the scene of the murder of George Floyd are Thomas Lane, Tou Thao, and J. Alexander Keung.
How go they explain a handcuffed man being held down on the ground ?
And why was he pulled out of the squad car in the first place?
[Edited on 5/30/2020 by gina]
[Edited on 5/30/2020 by gina]
The Floyd family has asked for an independent autopsy. Dr. Michael Baden who examined Eric Garner [the man killed in a police chokehold whose plea of I Can't Breathe galvanized a nation], arrives in Minneapolis tomorrow Saturday per Attorney, Benjamin Crump.
Https://www.foxnews.com/US/George-Floyd-family-enlists-Dr-Michael-Baden-to-perform-second-autopsy
The Minneapolis Police Handbook allows the use of knee on the neck restraint someone if they've been properly trained. After 2 minutes Mr. Floyd said no more and was either unconscious or dead yet that knee remained pushing on his neck for more than 7 more minutes.
The use of holding someone down with a knee on their neck should be stopped and revoked immediately as a permissible policy because either the cop in question did not know how to do it without harming someone or he just did it till he felt satisfied with the results. If he was not properly trained the police department is responsible.
Either way this cannot happen again. It must not.
[Edited on 5/30/2020 by gina]
What is being allowed to happen in Minneapolis is outrageous. What in the world are the Governor and Mayor doing ? This is crazy.
Don't look now tbomike, cause if You do, You gonna see severely pissed off People all over this country............joe
Don't look now tbomike, cause if You do, You gonna see severely pissed off People all over this country............joe
I have seen it. I hope you are not one thinking burning cars and buildings and causing destruction is a worthy way to get results. More innocent people will be getting hurt.
Https://news.yahoo.com/surveillance-video-moments-leading-george-170328026.html
New video NBC obtained clearly show George Floyd was handcuffed before being taken across the street to the police car of Derek Chauvin where he was pinned on the ground and died.
What was the reason to put him on the ground?
Derek Chauvin's wife just filed for divorce.
Https://www.nypost.com/2020/05/30/wife-of-ex-cop-derek-chauvin-reportedly-filing-for-divorce
She us represented by Sekula Law Offices and filed on the day he was arrested. Statement from law firm:
[Edited on 5/30/2020 by gina]
What was the reason to put him on the ground?
To satisfy officer Chauvin's sadistic bloodlust most likely. I saw a news bit about Floyd and Chauvin working security at the same night club like you pointed out. Floyd would have been working inside as a bouncer and Chauvin was an off duty cop working security outside at the door so it's possible they never really crossed paths or worked side by side, but both were indeed working the same club in the same time frame.
The club's owner expressed she was often creeped out by Chauvin, she said he had a very short fuse and was very quick to go for his pepper spray in situations she did not think called for it. Surprise surprise
Don't look now tbomike, cause if You do, You gonna see severely pissed off People all over this country............joe
I have seen it. I hope you are not one thinking burning cars and buildings and causing destruction is a worthy way to get results. More innocent people will be getting hurt.
For Everything, turn turn turn, there is a Season turn turn turn.
https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/video/4566460-protesters-clash-with-minneapolis-police/
Protesting systemic racism and police brutality is met with rubber bullets and tear gas.
Militia Cosplayers are somehow entitled to do what they do.No such thing as white rage?
How many of these scenarios resulted in the burning down/looting of their own communities?...including businesses owned by Blacks?
What was the reason to put him on the ground?
To satisfy officer Chauvin's sadistic bloodlust most likely. I saw a news bit about Floyd and Chauvin working security at the same night club like you pointed out. Floyd would have been working inside as a bouncer and Chauvin was an off duty cop working security outside at the door so it's possible they never really crossed paths or worked side by side, but both were indeed working the same club in the same time frame.
The club's owner expressed she was often creeped out by Chauvin, she said he had a very short fuse and was very quick to go for his pepper spray in situations she did not think called for it. Surprise surprise
All the "qualities" You listed lukester420, is what made this guy the perfect candidate for potential employment the police force! Now I am gonna share a little story, so painful for me that after I share it, I gonna have to check out till later this evening and meditate today. March 17th 2015, my wife and I excitedly made the 90 minute drive north to Kalamazoo MI. To see our beloved Gregg Allman Band, we shared a half pint of Jack Daniel's and smoked a left handed cigarette in the parking lot prior to the show, it would be the last time I would see Gregg play, his voice was strong, road worn, beautiful, just classic GA. The Band was just right in his pocket, a glance at one of the musicians would be Gregg the exact result he wanted on stage!!! My wife and I kept commenting to each that it had been a magical show and evening, we should have taken the highway straight home, but we euphorically took the lake Mich coastal hwy, much more scenic, smoked another left handed cigarette and drove through St. Joe Mi, union pier past the cook nuclear plant, and we discussed the show and evening and then with out thinking, we drove through New Buffalo MI. A mile or 2 from our Indiana boarder, the police in this tourist trap beach and condo town have been notorious for 50 yrs, as soon as we entered town we got pulled, these police are Experts at telling if You are bringing in big money or just having a good time, like my wife and I. They smelled weed, we gave them the 2 roaches and a swallow of booze that we had left under the seat, I realize not smart, but what a night, lost track of myself, the cops asked for a med card, no have, Indiana resident. Another squad arrives immediately You could see one cop was trouble, You could actually see that one of em was a squirrelly, snivelling, phucking weirdo sexually pervert type!!! No female cop around, this Scumbag gets behind her and says I gotta make You don't have anything else and briefly frisks her breasts, crotch and ask, I was detained by 2 cops and COULD NOT DO SHIT!!!!! You could see the other 3 cops knew the deal, they did nothing, i believe they felt like Sh!t!!! We each were detained in a different car, fear was put into her, my cop just kept saying to me that this is crazy and he wishes they would legalize across the board, my wife and I were eventually released and my wife was given a court summons, I wanted to raise hell, file lawsuits, wife dead set against that as she was scared sh!tless!!! We appeared in court, she was fined $400, justice served!!! Reason for pull over, burned out license plate bulb. We never did let the events that transpired ruin our memory of Gregg and what we felt that evening.................Joe
How many of these scenarios resulted in the burning down/looting of their own communities?...including businesses owned by Blacks?
No one likes looting and destroying public property, but there is big difference between black people responding to systematic murder versus white military cosplayers storming capitol buildings because they were upset that they can't play on the public swing set. Especially after the white military cosplayers who can't play at the park ignored the black peoples' peaceful protest message and called them "unpatriotic" in an effort to discredit and distract the message.
So the appropriate analogy is if we called the white military cosplayers "ungrateful, unpatriotic freedom haters" for their peaceful protest. If they are ever murdered by cops without consequence, then maybe we will see how peacefully they respond.
How many of these scenarios resulted in the burning down/looting of their own communities?...including businesses owned by Blacks?
No one likes looting and destroying public property, but there is big difference between black people responding to systematic murder versus white military cosplayers storming capitol buildings because they were upset that they can't play on the public swing set. Especially after the white military cosplayers who can't play at the park ignored the black peoples' peaceful protest message and called them "unpatriotic" in an effort to discredit and distract the message.
So the appropriate analogy is if we called the white military cosplayers "ungrateful, unpatriotic freedom haters" for their peaceful protest. If they are ever murdered by cops without consequence, then maybe we will see how peacefully they respond.
Exactly.
I was waiting for the troll train to pick up steam. It took three pages but i got a bite.
How many of those militia cosplayers have had their friends and family systemically abused and marginalized?
All they have to gripe about is they want to go back to work... doesn't seem like it warrants bringing your military grade weapons to the party.
Why weren't the violent nazi scum in Charlottesville met with the same force as the folks in Minneapolis or Louisville right now?
Don't bother answering we know where your sympathies lie.
[Edited on 5/30/2020 by lukester420]
What was the reason to put him on the ground?
To satisfy officer Chauvin's sadistic bloodlust most likely. I saw a news bit about Floyd and Chauvin working security at the same night club like you pointed out. Floyd would have been working inside as a bouncer and Chauvin was an off duty cop working security outside at the door so it's possible they never really crossed paths or worked side by side, but both were indeed working the same club in the same time frame.
The club's owner expressed she was often creeped out by Chauvin, she said he had a very short fuse and was very quick to go for his pepper spray in situations she did not think called for it. Surprise surprise
All the "qualities" You listed lukester420, is what made this guy the perfect candidate for potential employment the police force! Now I am gonna share a little story, so painful for me that after I share it, I gonna have to check out till later this evening and meditate today. March 17th 2015, my wife and I excitedly made the 90 minute drive north to Kalamazoo MI. To see our beloved Gregg Allman Band, we shared a half pint of Jack Daniel's and smoked a left handed cigarette in the parking lot prior to the show, it would be the last time I would see Gregg play, his voice was strong, road worn, beautiful, just classic GA. The Band was just right in his pocket, a glance at one of the musicians would be Gregg the exact result he wanted on stage!!! My wife and I kept commenting to each that it had been a magical show and evening, we should have taken the highway straight home, but we euphorically took the lake Mich coastal hwy, much more scenic, smoked another left handed cigarette and drove through St. Joe Mi, union pier past the cook nuclear plant, and we discussed the show and evening and then with out thinking, we drove through New Buffalo MI. A mile or 2 from our Indiana boarder, the police in this tourist trap beach and condo town have been notorious for 50 yrs, as soon as we entered town we got pulled, these police are Experts at telling if You are bringing in big money or just having a good time, like my wife and I. They smelled weed, we gave them the 2 roaches and a swallow of booze that we had left under the seat, I realize not smart, but what a night, lost track of myself, the cops asked for a med card, no have, Indiana resident. Another squad arrives immediately You could see one cop was trouble, You could actually see that one of em was a squirrelly, snivelling, phucking weirdo sexually pervert type!!! No female cop around, this Scumbag gets behind her and says I gotta make You don't have anything else and briefly frisks her breasts, crotch and ask, I was detained by 2 cops and COULD NOT DO SHIT!!!!! You could see the other 3 cops knew the deal, they did nothing, i believe they felt like Sh!t!!! We each were detained in a different car, fear was put into her, my cop just kept saying to me that this is crazy and he wishes they would legalize across the board, my wife and I were eventually released and my wife was given a court summons, I wanted to raise hell, file lawsuits, wife dead set against that as she was scared sh!tless!!! We appeared in court, she was fined $400, justice served!!! Reason for pull over, burned out license plate bulb. We never did let the events that transpired ruin our memory of Gregg and what we felt that evening.................Joe
Sorry to hear that Joe. I had a similar experience in rural SC on the way to a Mule show. I was cuffed and in the back of the car before Deputy Pig f***** asked for my license or registration. My transgression? Riding left of center in my lane, not weaving into another lane or anything like that, just being left of center apparently.
I believe my real offense to the deputy was my long hair and ABB mushroom bumper sticker.
In the "good news department" - looks like most of the looters ARE wearing facemasks and standing 6' - or at least the width of a new widescreen apart 😉
What? Too soon?
In the "good news department" - looks like most of the looters ARE wearing facemasks and standing 6' - or at least the width of a new widescreen apart 😉
What? Too soon?
Well in seriousness you could say last night was the last gasp of social distancing. And if anyone believes that was sanitary use of face masks in these circumstances it would be just kidding oneself.
Seems the majority of problem "protesters" were from out of town.
I wonder if they left their maga hats at home?
Seems the majority of problem "protesters" were from out of town.
I wonder if they left their maga hats at home?
Well, they have reported solid evidence that says, some of the real stirring up and dirty deeds are being conducted by played and provided by members of the "hard white right "..........Peace.......joe
In the "good news department" - looks like most of the looters ARE wearing facemasks and standing 6' - or at least the width of a new widescreen apart 😉
What? Too soon?
Well in seriousness you could say last night was the last gasp of social distancing. And if anyone believes that was sanitary use of face masks in these circumstances it would be just kidding oneself.
I believe the protection rate to be about 80% when 2 parties where masks, most were doing so, much more than i can say for our leadership?
Seems the majority of problem "protesters" were from out of town.
I wonder if they left their maga hats at home?
Well, they have reported solid evidence that says, some of the real stirring up and dirty deeds are being conducted by played and provided by members of the "hard white right "..........Peace.......joe
http://www.courthousenews.com/minnesota-officials-link-arrested-looters-to-white-supremacist-groups/
Seems the majority of problem "protesters" were from out of town.
I wonder if they left their maga hats at home?
Well, they have reported solid evidence that says, some of the real stirring up and dirty deeds are being conducted by played and provided by members of the "hard white right "..........Peace.......joe
These are the same people from Charlottesville - you know...those that prezy referred to as "good people" They come from out of state to incite riots.
Events & situations like this are the perfect targets of opportunity.
It may be hard for some to take to the streets during a pandemic but let us not forget the power of petitions and phone calls.
https://www.justiceforbigfloyd.com/
Did I miss the coverage of protests in Michigan by the hairy, camo-garbed, AR-15 toting freedom fighters!?!?!?!?!
I never shed a tear for people taking knee for the national anthem, but how can anyone not be sick watching the video of what happened to George Floyd. It does make me emotional.
It also makes me emotional and pissed off when I see the rioting that is going on.
"We were confronted with tens of thousands of rioters" - Minnesota Public Health Commissioner Harrington.
They estimate 80% of the people involved in Minnesota are from out of state. Would some be white supremacists? Sure, every civil unrest opportunist is going to be here. Left - Right- Anarchists - everyone. It's hijacked. This is going to get worse.
The whole thing is really discouraging - then the other stuff coming up with the fusillade on Breonna Taylor's apartment in Louisville - I just don't think busting these couple cops is going to slow this down. It's gone Locomotive Breath by now
You have protesters in Kentucky called the bugaloo boys in Hawaaian shirts who say they want a revolution. There are anarchists at all these protests trying to hijack the people who want peaceful change.
Ben Crump tells you Breonna Taylor should not be dead either. They just bust in shoot off 20 bullets while she was in her underwear and they already had the ex-boyfriend suspect in custody.
People are being undeservedly killed. That's why there are protests.
[Edited on 5/31/2020 by gina]
Van Jones has made a lot of sense lately. I appreciate some of his thoughts.
One thing I think he didn't make sense was saying he's never heard of third degree murder, saying, they are making up murder degrees, might as well call it 15th degree murder. I don't think you can put a first degree murder charge on Chauvin because he likely wouldn't be convicted of that charge. Perhaps it should've been second degree instead of third degree and man slaughter. That is the point to make, that it should've been second degree, not that third degree murder charges are "made up". Second degree may be difficult in court also. Third degree murder seems perfectly and even easily convictable. Maybe that was the point in charging him that way. Don't want Chauvin walking on this one.
Watching this shit in Chicago...people trying to roll a van over, I hope it rolls over ontop of the people trying to roll it over and pins them under it. This is bullshit.
