Intel experts again contradict Trump

"They are testing Rockets"
Rockets. Who calls missiles "rockets" since the 1950s?
lol
Trumpy, calls them rockets. That's why he referred to Kim Jung Un as "rocket man" before he met with him and realized they had a lot of common ground.

Why do you always refer to Osama Bin Laden by his first name? Are you guys pals?
Oh whippin' post!

You are right Gina, The President isn't going to know the depth and detail behind what they tell him, so yes, they do know more than the President. The assertion last week was that the President saw Iran as more of a threat, atleast in a nuclear sense, than the intelligence officials. And if they are briefing him what they believe he needs to know, as in, the gravest and most serious threats, then how could Trump take a position outside of what they have told him? It is one thing for you or I or anyone outside of government to read and form opinions on what might or might not be, but to be in the position of the President of the United States of America, how can he imply that he knows more than they do? Where would he get such information to formulate his opinion? Israel? I would certainly respect Israel's intelligence capabilities and wouldn't doubt that they might know things that we do not and vise-versa, however as President of this country I would put my faith in our people and our organizations to lead our way and it would be up to them to corroborate and share intel with foreign services to strengthen our own.
Donald J. Trump
Verified account @realDonaldTrumpThe Intelligence people seem to be extremely passive and naive when it comes to the dangers of Iran. They are wrong! When I became President Iran was making trouble all over the Middle East, and beyond. Since ending the terrible Iran Nuclear Deal, they are MUCH different, but....
....a source of potential danger and conflict. They are testing Rockets (last week) and more, and are coming very close to the edge. There economy is now crashing, which is the only thing holding them back. Be careful of Iran. Perhaps Intelligence should go back to school!
Your point is well taken. Trump was beseiged with the FAKE NEWS media before and even after his Presidency, so much so that people sympathetic to him came forward to try to tell him what they 'knew' from their sources about things ie. Brietbart, Alex Jones etc. Alex has contacts in govt., military so he always has interesting expose material. It could be clandestine, behind the scene sources that tell Trump things which he trusts more than some of the official people. With the high level military people who have come and gone in his administration, he may have learned to be more distrustful of 'official sources'.
Trump was also told he would not be allowed to have US troops on the Iraqi border "watch Iran" from Iraq.
Other countries want their state/nation sovereignty respected.
[Edited on 2/4/2019 by gina]

Why do you always refer to Osama Bin Laden by his first name? Are you guys pals?
Oh whippin' post!
It is just flat out creepy that you idolize Bin Laden.

I do not idolize any man or woman. I just have a different opinion of him than most others who just accepted the lame stream main stream media version of who he was/is. I did not agree with some of the things he did but there are questions I could not answer either, such as 'where is the battlefield' when people are killed in their homes and towns over there in other lands because of some half-baked intelligence analysis of who was supposed to be there and how significant/or bad they were etc.
I differed in the idea of a global caliphate but his vision was/is years ahead of everybody elses because when the anti-Christ rises and wants to enslave the world people will be forced to admit that we ARE in a holy war. He just saw it years ahead of everybody else and his focus was not the anti-Christ, but westerners who he felt were living in ways against the guidance of God and the prophets and messengers. He said we were already in a Holy War and everybody said no we're not, he just wants to start one because he is a terrorist....

. . .his vision was/is years ahead. . .
More like a thousand years behind, like you he is a throwback to the Dark Ages.

"They are testing Rockets"
Rockets. Who calls missiles "rockets" since the 1950s?
lolTrumpy, calls them rockets. That's why he referred to Kim Jung Un as "rocket man" before he met with him and realized they had a lot of common ground.
Common ground = KJU being a dictator and DJT being a dictator wannabe. Both fascinated with nuclear arms. Both put their own self interests ahead of the country they serve. Gina is right - lots of common ground.

"They are testing Rockets"
Rockets. Who calls missiles "rockets" since the 1950s?
lolTrumpy, calls them rockets. That's why he referred to Kim Jung Un as "rocket man" before he met with him and realized they had a lot of common ground.
Common ground = KJU being a dictator and DJT being a dictator wannabe. Both fascinated with nuclear arms. Both put their own self interests ahead of the country they serve. Gina is right - lots of common ground.
They also both lie more often then they tell the truth.

there are questions I could not answer either, such as 'where is the battlefield' when people are killed in their homes and towns over there in other lands because of some half-baked intelligence analysis of who was supposed to be there and how significant/or bad they were etc.
It’s incredibly sad when that happens, and this type evil unfortunately exists all over the world for thousands of years. I’m sure you know about Ghengis Khan....imagine living through his reign in that area to see your family slaughtered by him for no reason. Therefore, isn’t the point to NOT be like that, so as not to create the same pain and suffering? Your guy chose to inflict the same horror and evil on innocent people. Regardless of his ideology that might sound good to you, he chose evil, just like those with the hallf-baked intelligence. “Where is the battlefield” is your way of wanting to seek revenge.

I never said I agreed with the idea of attacking common people in public places. He felt the battleground is everywhere because of the actions our military (includes intel people), killing people in their houses, in towns where there are non-fighters who are injured and killed in the crossfire or debris.
If we assassinate someone outside a mosque do they have the right to do that here in front of a public building?
Most would say no. They believe we are the only ones who can determine who should live or die, and we give ourselves the authority to carry out these killings. I say it all needs to stop. You can go back to Cain and Abel if you want to look at revenge. But the guidance to ALL people in the Bible, and the Quran is that you can only take revenge upon specific people who have people specific to you, ie. a relative. Nobody was meant to engage in these long protracted wars killing people who did not do anything to anybody.
God himself will be the one to levy revenge. He declared "vengeance is mine" because he is the ONLY one who knows all things, therefore he is the only one who levy true justice. He destroys people in numerous ways, with wind, water, fire, earthquakes, volcanoes, allowing other disasters to happen. He doesn't needs nukes or man made weapons. He is just fine with HIS arsenal and has used it over and over again, but mankind does not learn even from thousands of years ago, the nations destroyed. Nobody seems to learn.
[Edited on 2/7/2019 by gina]

Maybe it is because they think pigs are so dirty that they come up with so much hogwash?

Remember the time that the POTUS contradicted the entire intelligence community in an attempt to embarrass them?
Yeah, me neither. The news comes so fast these days everything is forgotten as soon as it happens.
We'll never turn back from this. Hope everyone realizes that.

Remember the time that the POTUS contradicted the entire intelligence community in an attempt to embarrass them?
Yeah, me neither. The news comes so fast these days everything is forgotten as soon as it happens.
I don't know about this. I remember everything, and I bet I'm not the only one.
We'll never turn back from this. Hope everyone realizes that.
I have a more optimistic outlook. I think he is seen by everyone in Washington as a black cloud causing distress in every corner. Even Trump supporters are subconciously exhausted from the constant fighting they feel they have to do on Trump's behalf. I don't see anyone welcoming this "style" ever again after he's gone. It's hard to see this outcome now, while the black cloud is still looming large, but after the smoke clears, we'll all realize that poisonous cancers like Trump can never be welcomed ever again. Throughout history, every country experiences a dark period of evil tyrannical leadership...this is ours.
We can thank people like KCJimmy, who so graciously admitted that he knew in advance that Trump would be bad for this country, but voted him in anyway because liberals were mean. Imagine destroying your country on purpose because people hurt your feelings.
Trump's own choice for FBI Director was so concerned about his number of Russian contacts and erratic behavior, that they considered removing him from office and wearing a wire....this is the quality of judgment by the right.
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