I can't understand how you could support Trump or anybody else not being removed by whatever means necessary after losing an election.
Show me that support, please
I have no idea what you mean or are asking.
Yeah, V, did you read the whole sentence?
Book sales are probably more accurate than polls
If so, the #s don’t lie - Mary Trump’s book sold almost 1M copies the first day
She’s called for her uncle’s resignation
However, this I think was a miscalculation
her book has galvanized the masses into more Trump hate> & aiding an inevitable landslide loss in Nov, less than 4 short months away
her angle should’ve been more on that than resignation
Guessing they can grit their teeth & hang on until Election Day
Posted w/jaundiced cynical respectful ‘tude
W/Malice Toward None
her book has galvanized the masses into more Trump hate> & aiding an inevitable landslide loss in Nov, less than 4 short months away
Do you really think that one more book (even from a family member) would sway the love / hate ratio on Trump?
her book has galvanized the masses into more Trump hate> & aiding an inevitable landslide loss in Nov, less than 4 short months away
Do you really think that one more book (even from a family member) would sway the love / hate ratio on Trump?
I think it does nothing more than strengthen the disdain the left already has for the president. This same group finds itself in almost the exact same position they held in 2016, the feeling that people could not possibly support President Trump!...
her book has galvanized the masses into more Trump hate> & aiding an inevitable landslide loss in Nov, less than 4 short months away
Agreed. The left has learned nothing.
her book has galvanized the masses into more Trump hate> & aiding an inevitable landslide loss in Nov, less than 4 short months away
Do you really think that one more book (even from a family member) would sway the love / hate ratio on Trump?
I think it does nothing more than strengthen the disdain the left already has for the president. This same group finds itself in almost the exact same position they held in 2016, the feeling that people could not possibly support President Trump!...
her book has galvanized the masses into more Trump hate> & aiding an inevitable landslide loss in Nov, less than 4 short months away
Agreed. The left has learned nothing.
All this means is that Trump could stab and eat a baby in the Rose Garden, go over to Walter Reed, hop up on a hospital bed and take a dump on a wounded veteran and you still wouldn't care.
We all know that already.
The difference here is that since there's nothing that Trump could do that bothers you, you can't reconcile anything past right and left. There is no right and wrong.
This is keen insight to the conversations here.
her book has galvanized the masses into more Trump hate> & aiding an inevitable landslide loss in Nov, less than 4 short months away
Do you really think that one more book (even from a family member) would sway the love / hate ratio on Trump?
If you're a MAGA, nothing will change that. If you're one of the swing votes in the states that Hillary took for granted and ignored, I doubt Mary Trump's book is the one that turns the tide. However, as the election nears, it will be interesting to see if we get more Ted "Vote for the guy who called my wife ugly" Cruz or the increasing lack of support from GOP leaders we are seeing and hearing. Other than far-right conservatives, the majority of the GOP is tired of the Trump circus.
My guess would be yes - a family ‘tell all’ would have inside dirt lacking in other Trump books
Am also influenced that first-day sales broke records, according to info I saw
This to me would indicate that along w/his detractors, voters on the fence unsure of what to think, flocked/are flocking to buy her book, resulting imo in much less support/votes for her uncle
[Edited on 7/22/2020 by Stephen]
If the entire problems is on the left, how do you explain the Lincoln Project, Republicans against Trump, and 43 Alumni - all GOP leaders who are actively working to get Trump out, even though they don't agree with much of the Dem agenda.
Add to that list John Kasich and George Will, who helped write the book on conservatisnm
her book has galvanized the masses into more Trump hate> & aiding an inevitable landslide loss in Nov, less than 4 short months away
Do you really think that one more book (even from a family member) would sway the love / hate ratio on Trump?
I think it does nothing more than strengthen the disdain the left already has for the president. This same group finds itself in almost the exact same position they held in 2016, the feeling that people could not possibly support President Trump!...
her book has galvanized the masses into more Trump hate> & aiding an inevitable landslide loss in Nov, less than 4 short months away
Agreed. The left has learned nothing.
All this means is that Trump could stab and eat a baby in the Rose Garden, go over to Walter Reed, hop up on a hospital bed and take a dump on a wounded veteran and you still wouldn't care.
We all know that already.
The difference here is that since there's nothing that Trump could do that bothers you, you can't reconcile anything past right and left. There is no right and wrong.
This is keen insight to the conversations here.
No, what it means is that actions, thoughts and beliefs held and enacted on by the left/liberal mindset are far more bothersome and threatening to me and MILLIONS like me than you can imagine.
Believe it or scorn it. I do not care any less about this than you care about people with the audacity to not see it your way.
This is commonly referred to as polarization and has been advanced to the point where simple discussion is next to impossible without it sinking to name calling and labeling, all because your "Mainstream" views have been ...questioned & challenged.
I repeat, the left has learned nothing from 2016.
My guess would be yes - a family ‘tell all’ would have inside dirt lacking in other Trump books
Am also influenced that first-day sales broke records, according to info I saw
This to me would indicate that along w/his detractors, voters on the fence unsure of what to think, flocked to buy her book, resulting imo in much less support/votes for her uncle
Maybe, but it's really just her word - buying the book doesn't mean believing it. I'm not sure how much it will sway moderate Trump supporters or even people on the fence. We're talking about people who see themselves in a rich, fat, misogynist, fake-tanned, adulterous, pro-cronyism, crooked businessman who praises this country's enemies. Not likely they will listen to a niece with letters after her name.
My guess would be yes - a family ‘tell all’ would have inside dirt lacking in other Trump books
Am also influenced that first-day sales broke records, according to info I saw
This to me would indicate that along w/his detractors, voters on the fence unsure of what to think, flocked to buy her book, resulting imo in much less support/votes for her uncle
You're trying to connect sales points with less support / votes. Not sure that's a realistic correlation.
My theory is that most people are already on board with who they will vote for, and there is a very thin slice left for grabs. I doubt another book nor a well articulated example as provided several posts up by Bhawk would make a difference. How many informed or uninformed voters would make a decision based on a family member's book?
I will say this, I saw 2 very good interviews with her last week. She was exceptionally articulate, methodical in her answers and delivery, and showed no signs of vindictiveness. She's an impressive interview.
How many informed or uninformed voters would make a decision based on a family member's book?.
My guess would be the same percentage of voters who may or may not be swayed by a debate.
No, what it means is that actions, thoughts and beliefs held and enacted on by the left/liberal mindset are far more bothersome and threatening to me and MILLIONS like me than you can imagine.
Believe it or scorn it. I do not care any less about this than you care about people with the audacity to not see it your way.
This is commonly referred to as polarization and has been advanced to the point where simple discussion is next to impossible without it sinking to name calling and labeling, all because your "Mainstream" views have been ...questioned & challenged.
I repeat, the left has learned nothing from 2016.
Lots of generalizations (and double negatives) to unpack here. Who is name calling in this thread and how is this thread not a simple discussion? Or are you referring to Trump's name calling? How is stating "the left has learned nothing" not polarizing? What is "mainstream"? Why can't we imagine millions?
Fumigation of peaceful protesters to clear the way to a church photo-op is not acceptable however
The very same Church that was set afire by peaceful protesters?
Fumigation of peaceful protesters to clear the way to a church photo-op is not acceptable however
The very same Church that was set afire by peaceful protesters?
Not by the same peaceful protestors.
Fumigation would be a perfectly acceptable, nonviolent, and humane way of removing a would be dictator from a space meant to be occupied by democratically elected officials. Quite literally, tear gas is a fumigation technique, perfectly appropriate in this scenario, which is precisely what was being referred to, and is exactly what will happen if diplomacy fails. If fumigation is unsuccesful and they go WACO (We Ain't Comin' Out), then stronger force will be employed.
Fumigation of peaceful protesters to clear the way to a church photo-op is not acceptable however.
Why does that bother folks ? It is not analogy or metaphor. It is how the job would be done, to state this no more insulting than someone saying they would call Roto Rooter if their commode was blocked. It would be ludicrous to become offended and accuse them of implying that the john was full of excrement. At that point it doesn't matter what is in there, maybe it is not offal but simply a tennis ball Fido dropped in when he was quenching his thirst, and then Junior flushed. The primary concern is how bad it smells and what the overflowing sewage is doing to the floorboards and joists - the house must be saved. To quibble over appearances and symbolic implications is silly.
Well stated.
???? Fido = Eric and Junior = Don Jr.
Fumigation of peaceful protesters to clear the way to a church photo-op is not acceptable however
The very same Church that was set afire by peaceful protesters?
Not by the same peaceful protestors.
Nice try. But, "Peaceful" right?
"Peaceful" arsonists!
Fumigation of peaceful protesters to clear the way to a church photo-op is not acceptable however
The very same Church that was set afire by peaceful protesters?
Not by the same peaceful protestors.
Nice try. But, "Peaceful" right?
"Peaceful" arsonists!
Nope. The people cleared out by force were not arsonists. They were peaceful. The arson occurred the night before.
Fumigation of peaceful protesters to clear the way to a church photo-op is not acceptable however
The very same Church that was set afire by peaceful protesters?
Not by the same peaceful protestors.
Nice try. But, "Peaceful" right?
"Peaceful" arsonists!
Nope. The people cleared out by force were not arsonists. They were peaceful. The arson occurred the night before.
Perhaps people with the same agenda?
Now ask yourself, "Since very president since James Madison has visited St. John's Episcopal Church, why would it be set on fire less than a week after a peaceful protest"?
No way it could be leftists upset about a Photo-op after the death of George Floyd, right?
Setting fire to a Church has always been the higher road.
At least we can anchor the discussion with the given that we are all in agreement that tear gas is fumigation, and as such is not an insult when used in reference to its use as a tool for nonlethal personnel removal.
Is Fumigation intended to be lethal?
Nope. The people cleared out by force were not arsonists. They were peaceful. The arson occurred the night before.
Perhaps people with the same agenda?
Now ask yourself, "Since very president since James Madison has visited St. John's Episcopal Church, why would it be set on fire less than a week after a peaceful protest"?
No way it could be leftists upset about a Photo-op after the death of George Floyd, right?
Setting fire to a Church has always been the higher road.
"Perhaps" presumes much beyond the facts. The First Amendment allowed those who were assembled at the time to peacefully protest, something US Generals have pointed out. They are not responsible for the actions of others any more than the people who are currently present. They were removed so Trump could approach the church for a photo, not because they were causing a dangerous disturbance. If we are only responsible for our own actions, then stop assigning the blame of arson onto others. A true Libertarian would know this. Instead you are broadly labeling any and all protesters together because it wasn't just "leftists" who take issue with racist murder cops.
At least we can anchor the discussion with the given that we are all in agreement that tear gas is fumigation, and as such is not an insult when used in reference to its use as a tool for nonlethal personnel removal.
Is Fumigation intended to be lethal?
Do you honestly think Pelosi was being literal? That a President who refused to leave the White House would be lethally fumigated?
If we are only responsible for our own actions, then stop assigning the blame of arson onto others.
Anyone, peaceful or willingly violent who commits the act of arson, would then be known as?
Do you honestly think Pelosi was being literal?
Did you watch the video in the thread header?
Yes is do and it is the reason I posted the thoughts "She is awful"...
You and Brer may now continue this exercise in futility without any further assistance from me.
Enjoy the day
Is Fumigation intended to be lethal?
If you are referring to Terminix spraying for cockroaches, yes, fumigation is lethal. Fumigation can also mean using fumes, such as smoke, to temporarily clear out say a colony of wasps to destroy their nest. The latter sense of the term is what is being referred to here, nothing sinister.
OK, one more.
we are all in agreement that tear gas is fumigation
Is Tear Gas intended to be lethal?
No, what it means is that actions, thoughts and beliefs held and enacted on by the left/liberal mindset are far more bothersome and threatening to me and MILLIONS like me than you can imagine.
It's improper to put all left/liberal mindsets in the same boat. If you do, you're casting a very wide net.
If we are only responsible for our own actions, then stop assigning the blame of arson onto others.
Anyone, peaceful or willingly violent who commits the act of arson, would then be known as?
To repeat, anyone peacefully protesting is protected under the 1st Amendment and are not responsible for the destructive actions of others. I'm not sure if you're purposefully pivoting or just honestly missing that point.
Do you honestly think Pelosi was being literal?
Did you watch the video in the thread header?
Yes is do and it is the reason I posted the thoughts "She is awful"...
You and Brer may now continue this exercise in futility without any further assistance from me.
Enjoy the day
I did watch it, and it's clear from your response, what you choose to ignore, and convenient detours in this thread that you missed her point and took her literally because of your own polarizing, subjective dislike for her.
Sorry if attempting to defend your own statements in a discussion thread you started has been a futile exercise for you. Afternoon naps are a great way to recharge the mind and the body.
No, what it means is that actions, thoughts and beliefs held and enacted on by the left/liberal mindset are far more bothersome and threatening to me and MILLIONS like me than you can imagine.
It's improper to put all left/liberal mindsets in the same boat. If you do, you're casting a very wide net.
And BIGV hates polarizing labels. Probably why he left and took a nap.
You and Brer may now continue this exercise in futility without any further assistance from me.
Brer, do you think we can keep this going without HELP?
Hey, you know what the Washington Post is calling controversy?
[wait for it....]
Fumi-Gate
Sounds like somebody has PDS...... 😛 
Hey, you know what the Washington Post is calling controversy?
And BTW - Trump for four years refers to the New York Times as the failing NYT. However its stock is at a 5 year high. Another example of a Trump accuracy?
Fumi-Gate
Now that's just funny....
😛
