"Alleged" abuse
True and fair. But we'll colonize Mars before we see you offer this consideration to allegations on both sides of the aisle. Here comes the William Buckley quote.
All citizens of this Nation are innocent until proven guilty.
Unless your name is Clinton.
Excellent example. Accusations & Allegations.
Results in a Court of Law?
"Alleged" abuse
True and fair. But we'll colonize Mars before we see you offer this consideration to allegations on both sides of the aisle. Here comes the William Buckley quote.
All citizens of this Nation are innocent until proven guilty.
Unless your name is Clinton.
Excellent example. Accusations & Allegations.
Results in a Court of Law?
Inspector General Michael E. Horowitz's investigation of Hillary Clinton and related disgraced former Obama FBI officials will be fun read.
Except for Hillary, Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Lynch and many more.
[Edited on 10/8/2018 by Muleman1994]
Excellent example. Accusations & Allegations.
Results in a Court of Law?
He was impeached.
Excellent example. Accusations & Allegations.
Results in a Court of Law?
He was impeached.
For a brief moment, I had forgotten that either Clinton was an option.
There has never been any collaboration of the alleged accusations against Brett Kavanaugh.
The word you are looking for is "corroboration".
See, you are learning something new every day!
You need to learn English.
Both words are perfectly acceptable in this context.Open your mind, learn something.
That's the fighting spirit! We can't learn without a bit of wrestling. Rome wasn't built in a day. So, let's dig in.
Since you are so eager to learn, below is a simple and easy to understand breakdown of the commonly confused words collaborate and corroborate.
The following is from thoughtco, a nonpartisan language assistance site, ought to be a good resource for you, user friendly, clear, and simple, unlike say Purdue's Owl, which I prefer, but its exhaustive depth can prove off-putting to those just beginning to practice proper English usage skills, or folks who have a mere casual passing interest in English, but would like to sharpen up enough to appear as if they possessed more than a rudimentary grasp of their native tongue:
https://www.thoughtco.com/collaborate-and-corroborate-differences-1689738
Humanities › Languages
Collaborate and Corroborate
Richard Nordquist
Updated March 31, 2017If you are having a hard time deciding when to use the commonly confused words, collaborate and corroborate, you are not the only one. Here are the definitions of each of these terms to help you in your writing:
The verb collaborate means to cooperate or work jointly with others.
The verb corroborate means to strengthen, support, or confirm with evidence.
Examples:
"In the long history of humankind (and animal kind, too) those who learned to collaborate and improvise most effectively have prevailed. (Charles Darwin)According to legend, he killed over a hundred men, but no historian has been able to corroborate this claim.
Practice:
(a) Divine was hired to _____ with the author to produce a new screenplay.(b) True ideas are those we can assimilate, validate, _____, and verify.
Answers:
(a) Divine was hired to collaborate with the author to produce a new screenplay.(b) True ideas are those we can assimilate, validate, corroborate, and verify.
Great! If you made it this far, let's put this into action: This post corroborates my earlier point that your use of collaboration was erroneous.
"Alleged" abuse
True and fair. But we'll colonize Mars before we see you offer this consideration to allegations on both sides of the aisle. Here comes the William Buckley quote.
All citizens of this Nation are innocent until proven guilty.
Unless your name is Clinton.
Excellent example. Accusations & Allegations.
Results in a Court of Law?
Does it matter? The Republicans have accused her of everything from selling uranium to Russia to running a pedophile business in the basement of a pizza restaurant, all without any evidence. Even gave her a clever nickname. Never a conviction. Never saw any outrage from the right that her life was being destroyed by false accusations. Never heard a single Republican use the words "innocent till proven guilty." When it came to her it was always "lock her up." All we had was investigation after investigation that found nothing, and none of those were one week investigations with significant limitations applied. Nope, what we see here is double standard. Now I don't know if Kavanaugh assulted anyone of not, but certainly a real honest to goodness investigation should have been conducted. People made up their minds on if he did it or not based only on their political affiliation and nothing else. In my mind, it didn't matter if he did it or not because I think he is unqualified based on his perjuring himself and his temperament, but that's a different story all together.
Does it matter? The Republicans have accused her of everything from selling uranium to Russia to running a pedophile business in the basement of a pizza restaurant, all without any evidence. Even gave her a clever nickname. Never a conviction. Never saw any outrage from the right that her life was being destroyed by false accusations. Never heard a single Republican use the words "innocent till proven guilty." When it came to her it was always "lock her up." All we had was investigation after investigation that found nothing, and none of those were one week investigations with significant limitations applied. Nope, what we see here is double standard. Now I don't know if Kavanaugh assulted anyone of not, but certainly a real honest to goodness investigation should have been conducted. People made up their minds on if he did it or not based only on their political affiliation and nothing else. In my mind, it didn't matter if he did it or not because I think he is unqualified based on his perjuring himself and his temperament, but that's a different story all together.
Republicans and Democrats...
Birds of a Feather....
But 2112, you are missing the point. That “innocent till guilty” stuff only applies to white male repubs. The president cried about “innocence” all last week but has kept quiet about those 5 dudes in NY that were actually innocent for decades. It’s no surprise that they are black and were likely poor at the time. Dry yer tears mule, there is truth in the “race card” game.
But 2112, you are missing the point. That “innocent till guilty” stuff only applies to white male repubs. The president cried about “innocence” all last week but has kept quiet about those 5 dudes in NY that were actually innocent for decades. It’s no surprise that they are black and were likely poor at the time. Dry yer tears mule, there is truth in the “race card” game.
And didn't Trump call for the death penalty for the Central Park 5? Some 14 years after the sentences were vacated based on DNA evidence Trump never apologized. What a great man of character he is & a man with an expansive mind for legal matters & the legal system.
Maybe Trump would have been a better choice than Kavy for SCOTUS. Think about it - any man who self admittedly knows more than the generals certainly must know more about the legal system than a hack like Judge K.
The verb collaborate means to cooperate or work jointly with others.
The verb corroborate means to strengthen, support, or confirm with evidence.
Interesting that rabbit chose only the most narrow (and edited) usage of the two words.
Obviously you have not read many, or any, judicial rulings.
Roe won't be overturned.
But, court will allow states to pass laws that limit acess to women's reproductive health by not taking on the case or overruling lower courts.
Maybe not, I'll let you know if I'm wrong again.
That would be in the States Rights category.
Likely to be tried but that would churn through the courts for many years.
Already is
The verb collaborate means to cooperate or work jointly with others.
The verb corroborate means to strengthen, support, or confirm with evidence.Interesting that rabbit chose only the most narrow (and edited) usage of the two words.
Obviously you have not read many, or any, judicial rulings.
Your definitions of the two words are correct. Ok, great, shows you are paying attention. Lets have another look at your use of the word collaboration:
There has never been any collaboration of the alleged accusations against Brett Kavanaugh.
"Collaboration of the alleged accusations" would mean that the accusations were working together in a joint effort.
"Corroboration of the alleged accusations" would mean verification of the accusations.
Pretty simple. I think you get it now.
Nice to see that you are actually concerned about accuracy for a change. Good work!
The verb collaborate means to cooperate or work jointly with others.
The verb corroborate means to strengthen, support, or confirm with evidence.Interesting that rabbit chose only the most narrow (and edited) usage of the two words.
Obviously you have not read many, or any, judicial rulings.Your definitions of the two words are correct. Ok, great, shows you are paying attention. Lets have another look at your use of the word collaboration:
There has never been any collaboration of the alleged accusations against Brett Kavanaugh.
"Collaboration of the alleged accusations" would mean that the accusations were working together in a joint effort.
"Corroboration of the alleged accusations" would mean verification of the accusations.
Pretty simple. I think you get it now.
Nice to see that you are actually concerned about accuracy for a change. Good work!
You narrowed the use of those words to fit your argument.
That is dishonest.
You narrowed the use of those words to fit your argument.
That is dishonest.
Exactly how did I "narrow the use" of collaborate and corroborate? Would you care to corroborate that statement?
I carefully and clearly defined both words, in as simple a manner as possible, then showed how they are used.
Tell you what, why don't you and I collaborate on figuring out the proper usage, by offering corroboration of our differing views on how these words function.
I have corroborated the defintion and usage of both words by posting a basic English lesson from a remedial language site.
I welcome your corroboration of your concept of the correct usage of the words collaborate and corroborate from any source you trust. If you would rather regard this as an argument of opinion, rather than a clarification of the rudimentary mechanics of our language, I will respect that you feel that our collaboration is not a worthwhile endeavor, and leave you to understand English as you deem fit for your level of discourse.
At least you don't come around and yell at people for using English properly, like LUKE.
And you get points for admitting you were mistaken in referring to Ms. Ramirez as Ms. Rodriguez. That showed good sportsmanship.
[Edited on 10/9/2018 by BrerRabbit]
