Trump - old in years but acts like a juvenile.

Hey!, how is your life?..working?..gas is affordable?..groceries in the fridge? The economy is good, unemployment is at its lowest since 1968. Things are pretty good here in USA right now and what are the Democrats key talking points?

Socialized medicine
Global Warming
15$ an hr.
Impeach the President
Gun Control
Free College

Good Luck with that

Hey, my life is great. It was under Obama as well. The nice thing about the Obama days was that we didn't have a national embarrassment representing us on the world stage, telling lies every single day, and doing everything in his power to divide this country.

I also realize that not everyone in this country is doing as well as I am. Some people can't afford food and rent. Some people don't have clean water to drink. Unlike some, I care about people who don't have it as good as me and my family. I also think that maybe some enhanced background checks before you can buy a firearm might keep my son from being gunned down in a mass school shooting. The current out of control deficit spending, even during what is considered to be good economic times, is scary. So, maybe you think America is great again, but I see it currently on the decline.

Trump - old in years but acts like a juvenile.

Hey!, how is your life?..working?..gas is affordable?..groceries in the fridge? The economy is good, unemployment is at its lowest since 1968. Things are pretty good here in USA right now and what are the Democrats key talking points?

Socialized medicine
Global Warming
15$ an hr.
Impeach the President
Gun Control
Free College

Good Luck with that

Hey, my life is great. It was under Obama as well. The nice thing about the Obama days was that we didn't have a national embarrassment representing us on the world stage, telling lies every single day, and doing everything in his power to divide this country.

I also realize that not everyone in this country is doing as well as I am. Some people can't afford food and rent. Some people don't have clean water to drink. Unlike some, I care about people who don't have it as good as me and my family. I also think that maybe some enhanced background checks before you can buy a firearm might keep my son from being gunned down in a mass school shooting. The current out of control deficit spending, even during what is considered to be good economic times, is scary. So, maybe you think America is great again, but I see it currently on the decline.

That was a wonderful response, 2112. It reflects much of my situation and beliefs.

The thing you stated about Trump being "a national embarrassment representing us on the world stage, telling lies every single day, and doing everything in his power to divide this country." - When is someone who supports Trump or hates democrats going to disagree with your point or defend Trump on that? Same goes for actions with Putin, KJU, foreign policy/ actions - Iran, North Korea, Syria. Why can't he be defended? Do they agree with his beliefs with these dictators and agree with his foreign policy?

The nice thing about the Obama days was that we didn't have a national embarrassment representing us on the world stage, telling lies every single day

Curious, this affects you in what way? Is your life any worse with your Congressman, State senator, Senator, Assemblyman, City Councilman and Mayor doing the exact same thing, the only real difference being some of these representatives are on the local level?

and doing everything in his power to divide this country

I would counter with the "divide" being nothing more than what each party values. Funny thing, both believe their views to be flawless.

Trump - old in years but acts like a juvenile.

Hey!, how is your life?..working?..gas is affordable?..groceries in the fridge? The economy is good, unemployment is at its lowest since 1968. Things are pretty good here in USA right now and what are the Democrats key talking points?

Socialized medicine
Global Warming
15$ an hr.
Impeach the President
Gun Control
Free College

Good Luck with that

Hey, my life is great. It was under Obama as well. The nice thing about the Obama days was that we didn't have a national embarrassment representing us on the world stage, telling lies every single day, and doing everything in his power to divide this country.

I also realize that not everyone in this country is doing as well as I am. Some people can't afford food and rent. Some people don't have clean water to drink. Unlike some, I care about people who don't have it as good as me and my family. I also think that maybe some enhanced background checks before you can buy a firearm might keep my son from being gunned down in a mass school shooting. The current out of control deficit spending, even during what is considered to be good economic times, is scary. So, maybe you think America is great again, but I see it currently on the decline.

That was a wonderful response, 2112. It reflects much of my situation and beliefs.

The thing you stated about Trump being "a national embarrassment representing us on the world stage, telling lies every single day, and doing everything in his power to divide this country." - When is someone who supports Trump or hates democrats going to disagree with your point or defend Trump on that? Same goes for actions with Putin, KJU, foreign policy/ actions - Iran, North Korea, Syria. Why can't he be defended? Do they agree with his beliefs with these dictators and agree with his foreign policy?

Once again, how does this affect you?

Trump - old in years but acts like a juvenile.

Hey!, how is your life?..working?..gas is affordable?..groceries in the fridge? The economy is good, unemployment is at its lowest since 1968. Things are pretty good here in USA right now and what are the Democrats key talking points?

Socialized medicine
Global Warming
15$ an hr.
Impeach the President
Gun Control
Free College

Good Luck with that

None of my personal success has anything to do with who is President.

That said, he’s a horrific human being and a walking clown show. I pay my taxes and follow the rules and have every right to believe whatever I want.

You’ve got yours are you are doing well and you don’t care about anyone else. Yet another conservative. Some things never change.

Trump - old in years but acts like a juvenile.

Hey!, how is your life?..working?..gas is affordable?..groceries in the fridge? The economy is good, unemployment is at its lowest since 1968. Things are pretty good here in USA right now and what are the Democrats key talking points?

Socialized medicine
Global Warming
15$ an hr.
Impeach the President
Gun Control
Free College

Good Luck with that

None of my personal success has anything to do with who is President.

That said, he’s a horrific human being and a walking clown show. I pay my taxes and follow the rules and have every right to believe whatever I want.

You’ve got yours are you are doing well and you don’t care about anyone else. Yet another conservative. Some things never change.

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"None of my personal success has anything to do with who is President." Absolutely. I have made my success as an individual not because of nor in spite of government or who is president - be it a president who is a statesman and respected around the world or a president who is a national and global embarrassment.

You’ve got yours are you are doing well and you don’t care about anyone else. Yet another conservative. Some things never change.

Of course I care about others. When I have organizations that I feel worthy of my financial help, I donate. If my disbelief in social programs distributing $$ to those who will not work helps you categorize me, so be it.

"None of my personal success has anything to do with who is President." Absolutely. I have made my success as an individual not because of nor in spite of government or who is president - be it a president who is a statesman and respected around the world or a president who is a national and global embarrassment.

What does the President being a statesman or a "national and global embarrassment." have to do with your success or lack of it?

"None of my personal success has anything to do with who is President." Absolutely. I have made my success as an individual not because of nor in spite of government or who is president - be it a president who is a statesman and respected around the world or a president who is a national and global embarrassment.

What does the President being a statesman or a "national and global embarrassment." have to do with your success or lack of it?

He’s a horrific human being and a walking clown show.

What you and others keep trying to say (without actually saying it, it’s so cowardly) is that you do not care what Trump says or does. None of that matters. Donald Trump could stab a baby on the podium and you wouldn’t care, because, hey, the economy is doing well.

The economy was doing well at the end of the previous Presidential term, but you sure as s—t weren’t going around here admonishing supporters of candidate Trump who were saying that the country was in a horrible state that needed to be made great again, now were you?

Every election cycle of our entire lives has contained candidates from both parties saying how bad things are and they can make it better. All the sudden you have a problem with it?

Just come out and say that there’s not one thing this guy could do that would bother you. Enough with the coy attempts at not coming out and just being honest. What’s the matter? You afraid to say you like the guy? You afraid to say how much you like how he insults people? You afraid to say you don’t care how much he lies?

What are you afraid of? Just say it.

He’s a horrific human being and a walking clown show.

This is what you believe and I respect that while disagreeing with you.

Just come out and say that there’s not one thing this guy could do that would bother you. Enough with the coy attempts at not coming out and just being honest. What’s the matter? You afraid to say you like the guy? You afraid to say how much you like how he insults people? You afraid to say you don’t care how much he lies?

I just do not care as much as you do. That last President that "Bothered me" was either of the two Bush's. War for no reason bothers me, a lot. We care about and are "Bothered by" different things, I like low gas prices, an economy that gives people the opportunity to work and neighbors who believe in community. It shouldn't be that complicated.

"None of my personal success has anything to do with who is President." Absolutely. I have made my success as an individual not because of nor in spite of government or who is president - be it a president who is a statesman and respected around the world or a president who is a national and global embarrassment.

What does the President being a statesman or a "national and global embarrassment." have to do with your success or lack of it?

Why are you so focused on personal success? Life is more important than just my bank account. I care about this country. I care about how my country leads the free word. Seems like those on the right love to wave the flag, but that is where their patriotism stops. I guess I'm not that shallow. And yes, I travel a lot internationally (I've been to more countries already in 2020 than most American visit in a lifetime), and I see how Americans have been perceived around the world in the last 3 years differently than they used to be. Sometimes it's like they are walking on eggshells around Americans. Maybe you don't care, but I do...a lot.

"None of my personal success has anything to do with who is President." Absolutely. I have made my success as an individual not because of nor in spite of government or who is president - be it a president who is a statesman and respected around the world or a president who is a national and global embarrassment.

What does the President being a statesman or a "national and global embarrassment." have to do with your success or lack of it?

Why are you so focused on personal success? Life is more important than just my bank account. I care about this country. I care about how my country leads the free word. Seems like those on the right love to wave the flag, but that is where their patriotism stops. I guess I'm not that shallow. And yes, I travel a lot internationally (I've been to more countries already in 2020 than most American visit in a lifetime), and I see how Americans have been perceived around the world in the last 3 years differently than they used to be. Sometimes it's like they are walking on eggshells around Americans. Maybe you don't care, but I do...a lot.

Do you have a drunk loudmouth uncle that always shows up uninvited at your backyard BBQs, and you feel obligated to apologize to all the other party guests because of his behavior? Well, that is what I feel like when I travel internationally now.

Do you have a drunk loudmouth uncle that always shows up uninvited at your backyard BBQs, and you feel obligated to apologize to all the other party guests because of his behavior?

Never did, no.

Well, that is what I feel like when I travel internationally now.

That is your cross to bear, not mine.

little useful info from the debate, the last one mercifully is March 15

Well, we did learn (according to Joe Biden) that 150 million people have died from gun violence in the U.S. "more than all the wars"....

OMG

Re: cheap gas, oil is cheap. I think gas and diesel fuel prices are not cheap relative to oil for several years now. Different markets and state taxes impact this, but with oil hovering around $50 I feel gas should be 20% cheaper. Where I live when oil was $100 a barrel gas was $3. Our gas tax has gone up slightly, $.10, since then...our gas has been in the $2.30-2.39 range...with $50 oil that is not cheap.

My girlfriend commented last night that Biden looked like he "arose from his casket for this event"

If it's GOTTA be another old @$$ white man ... can it at least be Bernie? 😉

Boy, Bernie is quite the supporter of this Country is he not?....Always finding benefits in how countries like Denmark and Sweden take care of their own and how regimes like China, Cuba and Nicaragua have done great things that need to be recognized.

Holy Cow are you kidding me?

The current out of control deficit spending, even during what is considered to be good economic times, is scary.

It is a little scary when you think when the next recession comes the government will want to stimulate and thus further deficit spend. Tax receipts to the IRS have grown, but spending has grown more. When will debt and deficits matter, they always just kick the can - unless "deficits don't matter" (Cheney). I think to a point they matter less when interest rates are low as long as they can keep them there.

[Edited on 2/27/2020 by nebish]

I care about this country. I care about how my country leads the free word. Seems like those on the right love to wave the flag, but that is where their patriotism stops. I guess I'm not that shallow. And yes, I travel a lot internationally (I've been to more countries already in 2020 than most American visit in a lifetime), and I see how Americans have been perceived around the world in the last 3 years differently than they used to be. Sometimes it's like they are walking on eggshells around Americans.

I, too, travel a lot internationally & the global perception has deteriorated dramatically over the last 3 years. My firm & I are personally welcomed for our expertise, but the skepticism about the US's stability is growing. I used to be asked how on earth Trump became president (often by people who used to live in the US, specifically NYC who knew he was a bankrupt carny barker), then why he wasn't removed from office through impeachment when his actions were so obviously corrupt, and now, how is it possible that he's likely to win re-election.

There is a trickle-down of distrust of American anything because Trump is mercurial, disloyal to our allies, & a liar. How can anyone feel certainty when Trump tweets policy changes in the middle of the night over some perceived slight? He interferes in areas in which he knows absolutely nothing & that's scary.

Now, US health professionals are concerned that Americans themselves aren't going to get correct info about the pandemic COVID19 virus when it widens here. Trump, who used to be a notorious germaphobe who wouldn't even shake hands, is downplaying the danger. He contradicts the CDC, WHO, and health professionals & has trained his "base" not to trust media. The man has no respect for anyone who has expertise in anything & he just fires or undermines him - particularly in instances involving military or science. He doesn't inspire confidence that he can lead in a health crisis - so he's passed it off to the sphinx-like Pence. My trips to other continents have already been canceled.

I don't have answers for any of what's past. I don't have answers as to why the democrats are in such shock, disarray, or disbelief that they haven't spent the past 3 years planning surefire ways of unseating him w/a candidate who'll restore stability, repair relationships w/allies, and generally get the country operating w/3 branches of government rather than an unstoppable autocrat. I haven't heard love for ANY candidate - other countries aren't looking to a socialist or isolationist US. They want their old friend back.

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The nice thing about the Obama days was that we didn't have a national embarrassment representing us on the world stage, telling lies every single day

Curious, this affects you in what way? Is your life any worse with your Congressman, State senator, Senator, Assemblyman, City Councilman and Mayor doing the exact same thing, the only real difference being some of these representatives are on the local level?

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The thing you stated about Trump being "a national embarrassment representing us on the world stage, telling lies every single day, and doing everything in his power to divide this country." - When is someone who supports Trump or hates democrats going to disagree with your point or defend Trump on that? Same goes for actions with Putin, KJU, foreign policy/ actions - Iran, North Korea, Syria. Why can't he be defended? Do they agree with his beliefs with these dictators and agree with his foreign policy?

Once again, how does this affect you?
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"None of my personal success has anything to do with who is President." Absolutely. I have made my success as an individual not because of nor in spite of government or who is president - be it a president who is a statesman and respected around the world or a president who is a national and global embarrassment.

What does the President being a statesman or a "national and global embarrassment." have to do with your success or lack of it?

Boy, Bernie is quite the supporter of this Country is he not?....Always finding benefits in how countries like Denmark and Sweden take care of their own and how regimes like China, Cuba and Nicaragua have done great things that need to be recognized.

Holy Cow are you kidding me?

Funny how about ten posts ago, BIGV was indignantly asking people how Trump praising foreign dictators affects them personally, suggesting no one should care what leaders say if the gas stays cheap. But Sanders saying that literacy programs are good - no matter where they happen - causes him to feel the need to post his disbelief.

Funny how about ten posts ago, BIGV was indignantly asking people how Trump praising foreign dictators affects them personally, suggesting no one should care what leaders say if the gas stays cheap. But Sanders saying that literacy programs are good - no matter where they happen - causes him to feel the need to post his disbelief.

When he agrees with a liberal, he gets agitated apparently. He’s just a troll who comes here to make every thread about himself with some type of confrontation. I have no idea why Rowland would tolerate this even for a minute on an Allman Brothers website.

I am not sure he needs to be given a timeout or anything, I just think he hurts his credibility to argue both sides of a topic within a dozen posts of each other.

I don't have answers as to why the democrats are in such shock, disarray, or disbelief that they haven't spent the past 3 years planning surefire ways of unseating him w/a candidate

I would think the biggest issue is a lack of leadership. For the last three years their emphasis has been on attempts to discredit the sitting President and not on solutions that the electorate can believe in and respond to on election day. Pete Buttigieg continues to be spot on with his depiction of what is going on with his party...The two choices seem to be an ancient, angry Socialist with a history of heart ailments and another old man who continues to open his mouth just to change feet. In this last debate, Joe Biden claimed that 150 million people have been killed by handguns in this country; the DNC just allows this mess to continue.

Hillary to the rescue.

But Sanders saying that literacy programs are good - no matter where they happen

But in Cuba's case, what else is being sacrificed? Yep, school is free, looks like a wonderful place to live and raise your kids.

I would think the biggest issue is a lack of leadership. For the last three years their emphasis has been on attempts to discredit the sitting President and not on solutions that the electorate can believe in and respond to on election day.

Which of the nearly 300 bills passed by the House and sent to the Senate awaiting debate and vote in 2019 do you have an issue with?

EDIT: Correction. Nearly 400 bills.

[Edited on 2/27/2020 by Bhawk]

I would think the biggest issue is a lack of leadership. For the last three years their emphasis has been on attempts to discredit the sitting President and not on solutions that the electorate can believe in and respond to on election day.

Which of the nearly 300 bills passed by the House and sent to the Senate awaiting debate and vote in 2019 do you have an issue with?

EDIT: Correction. Nearly 400 bills.

I am only speaking to the title of this thread when it comes to leadership or lack thereof as it relates to the November Election. Do you feel these debates are helping the DNC?

I would think the biggest issue is a lack of leadership. For the last three years their emphasis has been on attempts to discredit the sitting President and not on solutions that the electorate can believe in and respond to on election day.

Which of the nearly 300 bills passed by the House and sent to the Senate awaiting debate and vote in 2019 do you have an issue with?

EDIT: Correction. Nearly 400 bills.

I am only speaking to the title of this thread when it comes to leadership or lack thereof as it relates to the November Election. Do you feel these debates are helping the DNC?

Someday, you'll answer a question posed to you.

I'll answer yours, though.

I think these debates neither hurt nor help, because the vast majority of people that will vote in November don't pay any attention. This is February. Given America's microscopic attention span, there will be plenty more things that happen by this weekend that will push whatever happened in a debate to distant memory.

The last debate landed "huge" viewership of 15.3 million.

128.8 million people voted in the last election. 15.3 million is 11.8% of 128.8 million.

It's easy to think that the majority of the public is paying attention, but they aren't. Never really have.

Come November, The Red Team will vote Trump, The Blue Team will vote whoever the Democratic nominee is. The rest is just noise.

It’s getting into apples & oranges now tho
If the Democrats in 2019 sent nearly 400 bills to the Senate for advice/consent, that’s a good thing & shows good leadership -
off the campaign trail

On it, the leadership’s incessant hollow attempts at discrediting Trump is all but conceding they don’t have a good enough candidate of their own who can unseat him in Nov, & their rabid anyone-but-Trump approach has lost steam/credibility

The terrorist/totalitarian/tyrant tendencies of the president cited by some here on the boards - that he’s trying to make the US his own private Russia, he persecutes children etc etc - aren’t even worthy of comment

There’s a long way to go on the trail, & many bills to be enacted/tabled/sent to committee in the House/Senate chambers in Wash DC........best wishes

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Which of the nearly 300 bills passed by the House and sent to the Senate awaiting debate and vote in 2019 do you have an issue with?

I've absolutely zero idea. I will admit that I do not pay much attention to that facet of either Congress or the Senate.

Which ones do you approve of?

On it, the leadership’s incessant hollow attempts at discrediting Trump is all but conceding they don’t have a good enough candidate of their own who can unseat him in Nov, & their rabid anyone-but-Trump approach has lost steam/credibility

The terrorist/totalitarian/tyrant tendencies of the president cited by some here on the boards - that he’s trying to make the US his own private Russia, he persecutes children etc etc - aren’t even worthy of comment

Translation: There is no legit criticism of Trump, he does nothing wrong. I will hold opposition candidates to an even higher standard.

Same ol conservative rap, just a new election year.

The terrorist/totalitarian/tyrant tendencies of the president cited by some here on the boards - that he’s trying to make the US his own private Russia, he persecutes children etc etc - aren’t even worthy of comment

Your comment is noted.

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To the original post quoted - Because in the language of Trump these are hoaxes and fake news?

But Sanders saying that literacy programs are good - no matter where they happen

But in Cuba's case, what else is being sacrificed? Yep, school is free, looks like a wonderful place to live and raise your kids.

"Once again, how does this affect you?"

This is your response when someone complains about Trump talking up how strong and sexy Putin and Kim are.

Try some continuity.