More early numbers:

http://www.wagertalk.com/spt-opt/lines.php?sport=ncaafb&period=0

Go Tigers!!

here's your preseason chicken news:

USuC fans were crowing about their big recruiting weekend last week. They beat out Wake Forest, Furman, App St and few other powerhouses on some recruits.

one chickened predicted a 10-2 record and getting in the playoff.

BTW they Georgia, Bama and Clemson this year

DUCKS are going on a tear this year!!! Hopefully PAC-12 doesn't do what they do most years and eat their own.

SEC going to play 10 inter conference games this year?

How about that GT - Clemson line? Oh boy, rough first game for a new coaching staff transitioning a team away from the option. I'll be looking to see if Geoff Collins still wears his 'trademarked' flood style pants.

This should be a big year for Oregon. Herbert is a little over-rated, but he is still very good. The OL is excellent. The D should be good. I think they can beat Auburn week 1, will be hugely disappointing for them if they don't. Trips to Stanford and Washington plus at USC could pose a chance to trip up. 10-2 or better should be the expectation with a North division championship. Quack!

ACC Champion
Clemson -335
Miami Florida +850
Virginia Tech +2500
Florida State +2500
Syracuse +2500
NC State +3000
Virginia +3000
Georgia Tech +5000
Boston College +6000
Pittsburgh U +6500

American Athletic Champion
Central Florida +135
Memphis +400
Houston U +560
Cincinnati U +700
South Florida +875
Temple +1525
Tulane +3450
SMU +3750
Tulsa +4500
Navy +5250
East Carolina +20000
Connecticut +50000
North Carolina +7500
Duke +8500
Wake Forest +10000
Louisville +15000

Big 12 Champion
Oklahoma -117
Texas +300
West Virginia +1250
Iowa State +1250
Oklahoma State +2000
TCU +2000
Baylor +2000
Texas Tech +2350
Kansas State +4000
Kansas +10000

Big Ten Champion
Ohio State +110
Michigan +248
Penn State +1000
Wisconsin +1450
Nebraska +1800
Michigan State +2000
Iowa +2500
Northwestern +2750
Purdue +3500
Minnesota +5000
Indiana +7500
Maryland +7500
Illinois +23000
Rutgers +50000

Conference USA Champion
Florida Atlantic +375
Florida International +475
North Texas +475
Southern Miss +500
Marshall +675
Middle Tennessee +875
UAB +975
Louisiana Tech +1300
Western Kentucky +3550
Old Dominion +5750
Charlotte +6600
Rice +8050
UTEP +20000
UTSA +20000

Mid-American Champion
Toledo +250
Ohio +345
Northern Illinois +510
Eastern Michigan +700
Western Michigan +750
Miami Ohio +750
Buffalo +950
Central Michigan +5000
Kent State +5500
Ball State +7000
Akron +10000
Bowling Green +10000

Mountain West Champion
Boise State +105
Fresno State +425
San Diego State +485
Utah State +800
Air Force +1400
Nevada +1800
Wyoming +4000
Hawaii +4500
New Mexico +8000
Colorado State +10000
UNLV +10000
San Jose State +20000

Pac-12 Champion
Oregon +220
Washington +220
Utah +350
Washington State +850
USC +900
Arizona +2100
Stanford +2100
Arizona State +2500
California +2700
UCLA +3300
Colorado +9000
Oregon State +16500

SEC Champion
Alabama -155
Georgia +300
LSU +1525
Florida +1525
Auburn +3000
Mississippi State +4000
Texas A&M +4000
Kentucky +4000
South Carolina +10000
Tennessee +10000
Vanderbilt +20000
Mississippi +20000
Arkansas +27500

Sun Belt Champion
Appalachian State -135
Arkansas State +425
Troy +600
UL Lafayette +1400
UL Monroe +1400
Georgia Southern +1600
Texas State +5000
Georgia State +15000
Coastal Carolina +20000
South Alabama +25000

Posting on another site about the UCLA - Bama game in 2001 (I was there) and it reminded of this thread. I saw something a few weeks ago that Miami and Florida are playing on 8/24 to celebrate the 150th anniversary of college football. Pretty cool way to start the season!

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2019/6/28/18744509/miami-florida-week-0

I think the true first College Football games we're between Queens University in Kingston Ontario and Yale or Harvard. I recall my Uncle (Former Queens guy) stating that on many occasions.

I assume the rules we're closer to football rules and not rugger as he called it.

Long time a go so could be up for debate.

My bad - but I knew it was Ivy League and Cdn university

In 1868, the first recorded game of rugby in North America occurred in Montreal, between British army officers and McGill students,[206][207] giving McGill the oldest university-affiliated rugby club in North America. Other McGill-originated sports evolved out of rugby rules: football, hockey, and basketball. The first game of North American football was played between McGill and Harvard on May 14, 1874,[208] leading to the spread of American football throughout the Ivy League.[209]

[Edited on 7/8/2019 by leafsfan]

Well, at Rutgers they say that is the birthplace of college football. Fans there now are just wondering when football will be reborn in Pascataway.

https://www.si.com/college-football/2019/college-football-overtime-rules-explained-changes

I like the changes.

https://www.si.com/college-football/2019/college-football-overtime-rules-explained-changes

I like the changes.

Thanks for that, just heard about it this week. Sounds good to me as well.

What changes have been made for 2019?

There has been one major adjustment to the overtime format for 2019. Teams will rotate two-point conversion tries beginning in the fifth overtime, eliminating possessions starting at the opposing 25-yard-line. Each offense will have just one chance to convert the two-point try before the other team gains possession.

https://www.si.com/college-football/2019/college-football-overtime-rules-explained-changes

I like the changes.

Thanks for that, just heard about it this week. Sounds good to me as well.

What changes have been made for 2019?

There has been one major adjustment to the overtime format for 2019. Teams will rotate two-point conversion tries beginning in the fifth overtime, eliminating possessions starting at the opposing 25-yard-line. Each offense will have just one chance to convert the two-point try before the other team gains possession.

Read an article about it and it doesn't strike me as being too terribly different to what it has been the last several years.

Just my opinion but I really don't like the college OT rule (s). Same with the NHL. I say let them play.

Over / Under Regular Season Win Totals

Air Force 8

Akron 3.5

Alabama 11.5 ov +250 un -300
Alabama 11 ov -150 un +130

Appalachian State 9

Arizona 6.5

Arizona State 7.5 un -185

Arkansas 5.5

Arkansas State 7.5 ov -165

Army 9.5

Auburn 8

Ball State 4

Baylor 7.5

Boise State 10

Boston College 6.5

Bowling Green 3

Buffalo 6

BYU 6.5

California 5.5

Central Florida 9

Central Michigan 4

Charlotte 4.5

Cincinnati 7.5

Clemson 11.5

Coastal Carolina 4.5 un -175

Colorado 4

Colorado State 3.5

Connecticut 2.5

Duke 5.5

East Carolina 4

Eastern Michigan 6.5

Florida Atlantic 8

Florida Internation 7.5

Florida State 7.5

Fresno State 8

Georgia 11

Georgia Southern 6.5

Georgia State 3.5

Georgia Tech 4

Hawaii 5.5

Houston 7.5

Illinois 4.5

Indiana 6.5

Iowa 7.5

Iowa State 8

Kansas 3

Kansas State 5.5

Kent State 4 ov +175 un -210

Kentucky 6.5

Liberty 5.5

Louisiana Tech 7.5

Louisville 3.5

LSU 9

Marshall 7 ov -175

Maryland 3.5 ov -170

Massachusetts 3.5

Memphis 9.5

Miami (FL) 8.5

Miami (OH) 6 un -170

Michigan 9.5 ov -200 un +170
Michigan 10.5 ov +160 un -180

Michigan State 8

Middle Tennessee State 5.5

Minnesota 7.5

Mississippi 5

Mississippi State 7.5

Missouri 8

Navy 5.5

NC State 7.5

Nebraska 8.5

Nevada 6

New Mexico 4.5

New Mexico State 3.5

North Carolina 5

North Texas 7.5

Northern Illinois 6.5

Northwestern 6.5

Notre Dame 9.5

Ohio 7.5

Ohio State 10

Oklahoma 10

Oklahoma State 7

Old Dominion 4.5 ov +165 un -190

Oregon 8.5

Oregon State 2.5

Penn State 8.5

Pitt 6

Purdue 7

Rice 2.5 un -175

Rutgers 3

San Diego State 8

San Jose State 2.5 ov -190

SMU 6

South Alabama 2.5

South Carolina 5.5

South Florida 7 ov +250, un -350

Southern Miss 7.5

Stanford 6.5

Syracuse 7.5

TCU 7.5

Temple 6.5

Tennessee 6.5

Texas 9.5

Texas A&M 7.5

Texas State 4.5

Texas Tech 6.5

Toledo 8 un -175

Troy 7

Tulane 5.5 ov -165

Tulsa 4.5

UAB 7

UCLA 6

UL Lafayette 6

UL Monroe 5

UNLV 4

USC 7

Utah 9

Utah State 6.5

UTEP 2.5

UTSA 2.5 ov -185

Vanderbilt 5

Virginia 7.5

Virginia Tech 8

Wake Forest 6

Washington 9.5

Washington State 8

West Virginia 5.5

Western Kentucky 5

Western Michigan 7.5

Wisconsin 8

Wyoming 5.5

ONE MONTH!

Don't know why but my betting site won't let you bet the over / unders on wins yet. There are a few I'd like. I suppose they wait until the last minute. I did see that my Meeechigan Wolverines are the fifth highest to win it all which really surprises me. They can't even decide on a quarterback.

[Edited on 7/25/2019 by Lee]

Over Oregon and Oregon State and under for Wash.

Don't know why but my betting site won't let you bet the over / unders on wins yet. There are a few I'd like. I suppose they wait until the last minute. I did see that my Meeechigan Wolverines are the fifth highest to win it all which really surprises me. They can't even decide on a quarterback.

[Edited on 7/25/2019 by Lee]

Why wouldn't Shea be the QB again this year?

Over Oregon and Oregon State and under for Wash.

Think I would agree Mike.

Go Beavs! I'm eyeing the Oklahoma State trip to Corvalis in week 1 as a potential upset. Okie St's run game could be a challenge for the Beavs, but otherwise, I think Beavers have some success in this spot...week 1 home opener vs inconsistent 2 TD favorite breaking in a new QB with a questionable Cowboy defense.

They should get over 2.5 wins, even if they lose week 1. At Hawaii will be tough for them, but I would take them to win that one. Gotta figure they beat Cal Poly and then I'll give them one P12 win in October (Cal?) and one in November (AzSt?).

I do like Oregon this year.

It is hard for me to fade Washington too hard because of their track record. The offense could actually be better with Eason at QB since Browning really fizzled the last 2 years and didn't posses great arm strength. Eason was starting at UGA until injury and he's from Washington I think so he will relish being there to restart his career. UW D is always so good, they have questions this year, but I tend to want to give them the benefit of the doubt. They do get Oregon and Wazzou at home, those are the teams I see contending for the North and Huskies always beat Wazzou and until last year, had beaten the Ducks convincingly back-to-back '16 and '17.

I love how this season shapes up in the PAC 12. It is going to be so competitive and so much fun. Look at the South Division. Yeah, Utah is loaded, but literally, anybody, anybody could finish 2nd or 6th in that division. Colorado could be 2nd, or 6th. Same with UCLA. USC...et all.

[Edited on 7/27/2019 by nebish]

Don't know why but my betting site won't let you bet the over / unders on wins yet. There are a few I'd like. I suppose they wait until the last minute. I did see that my Meeechigan Wolverines are the fifth highest to win it all which really surprises me. They can't even decide on a quarterback.

[Edited on 7/25/2019 by Lee]

Why wouldn't Shea be the QB again this year?

I totally agree with that but I guess Harbaugh might split time between him and some kid. I don't get it but that is what I read.

Hoping for some parity at the top this year. A few haves an a ton of have nots is not good for college football in the long run.

Don't know why but my betting site won't let you bet the over / unders on wins yet. There are a few I'd like. I suppose they wait until the last minute. I did see that my Meeechigan Wolverines are the fifth highest to win it all which really surprises me. They can't even decide on a quarterback.

[Edited on 7/25/2019 by Lee]

Why wouldn't Shea be the QB again this year?

I totally agree with that but I guess Harbaugh might split time between him and some kid. I don't get it but that is what I read.

I missed most of Big Ten media days and have not begun to read up on B1G teams yet. So it is like a gadget QB, or is it the typical coach isn't committing to the starter so they compete in camp? It has to be Shea. I really think he can do everything they need of him. Must just be Harbaugh being Harbaugh, you know...the guy that doesn't like to even produce depth charts for game week.

That is one thing though, think about the failure that Michigan QB recruiting and development has been under Harbaugh. It's horrible. Why can't Jim recruit a good QB to run the show? Michigan was pretty much QB-U for alot of years. Not always great NFL success, but you think about the guys that came through their in the 80s and 90s and early 2000s and it is like a who's - who of All Conference Big Ten QBs. This baffles me. Why Harbaugh has relied upon transfer QBs so much rather than his own recruits. Between Rudock, O'Korn and now Patterson...Harbaugh's transfer QBs have more starts and snaps than his recruited QBs I'm sure of it. Harbuagh and Michigan should be able to recruit a certain pedigree QB. Peters transfered to Illinois and McCaffrey has passed for 126y in two years. Maybe Milton (redshirt last year) or this year's frosh McNamara will amount to something? Maybe he actually can't evaluate QB talent and getting Luck at Stanford was...well...luck.

Hoping for some parity at the top this year. A few haves an a ton of have nots is not good for college football in the long run.

The top of college football has been ruled by dynasties for as long as I can remember. But to your point, I can't quite remember the two same teams being so dominant over everyone else year-after-year.

Here's one you'll like then:

Total Regular Season Losses by Clemson and Alabama COMBINED, Over/Under 1.5

Over +100
Under -130

Under is favored, so the odds makers and the betting public is saying that Clemson and Alabama will probably go no worse than 23-1 combined this year (regular season).

Or, here is another one:

Will Clemson and Alabama meet in the National Title Game?

Yes +180
No -240

Kinda steep odds on no. I mean, I would say no though too. After all, can they actually play each other in the playoff for a 5TH straight year? Every year there has been a playoff there has been a Clemson and Alabama game. 3 of 4 were in the final, the other year was the Kelly Bryant semi-final year.

How about one more?

Teams to win National Championship:

Alabama or Clemson -215
Field +175

[Edited on 7/28/2019 by nebish]

Pick'em League is back for our 11TH season!!

https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/college/register/joingroup

Join private group by entering the following

Group ID#: 1259
Password: ABB

Bhawk - this will be your year, I just know it!

Past winners:
2018 - nebish
2017 - oldcoot
2016 - nebish / kirbyskids (Dannyspell) (yahoo tie break goes to nebish)
2015 - Village Dawg (hoffcl)
2014 - nebish
2013 - DanB
2012 - alloak41
2011 - Wharfrat
2010 - non ABB member (leafsfan friend)
2009 - Bird

Well the rankings came out and seven, yes SEVEN Big Ten teams are in the Top 25. I am a Michigan fan and I can't believe they are seventh given the players that left early. Definitely think Ohio State is also over ranked at five.

I'm in........ just so I can beat DanB ..... 😛

I want to play, you’ve gotta have somebody to hold down the bottom.

Pick'em League is back for our 11TH season!!

https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/college/register/joingroup

Join private group by entering the following

Group ID#: 1259
Password: ABB

Bhawk - this will be your year, I just know it!

Past winners:
2018 - nebish
2017 - oldcoot
2016 - nebish / kirbyskids (Dannyspell) (yahoo tie break goes to nebish)
2015 - Village Dawg (hoffcl)
2014 - nebish
2013 - DanB
2012 - alloak41
2011 - Wharfrat
2010 - non ABB member (leafsfan friend)
2009 - Bird

Who else misses the good ol' days? (2015)

Aren't you living in the past son? 😉

Two weeks til week 0!

Week 0 not in the pool, but we have 6 signed up so far. Y'all a great bunch!

Aren't you living in the past son? 😉

Ha! Fear keeps me focused on the past AND worried about the future! 😉

FEAR THE DUCK!!!! DUCKS SHALL RISE!!!! I am in!!!