Michael Bloomberg Surges in Poll and Qualifies for Democratic Debate in Las Vegas
Looks like cash is king, and in Mike's case might make him king
NPR has him at 19%, 2nd behind Bernie at 31%. RCP says 14%, in 3rd behind a sinking Biden.
Mike has one objective: To defeat trump. this is a good thing
whether he becomes president or not.
How do you feel about Bloomberg running and maintaining his business if he wins? Sounds like you are cool with Lil'Mike and his global financial enterprise but worried about corrupting democracy if Trump keeps his hotel rooms?
He stated on Fox News this morning that he will sell his business if elected president to avoid any conflicts of interest.
That's kind of silly. Why would he do that when we have a new normal including emoluments clause is no longer applicable. Trump got rid of that. It is replaced by making as much money off the gov't to enrich oneself & family as possible. Divert military aircraft to refuel and stay at Trump owned resorts in Scottland. How about Secret Service staying at Trump resort? In some cases $650 a night, but Eric Trump says costs are only to recoup the Trump costs...of course.
So why shouldn't Bloomy follow good business and ethical practices effective with what are Trump's new norms & not challenged by GOP and common folks in the base? MAGA.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/06/air-force-trump-scottish-retreat-1484337
There's serious dirt out there about his past and governing style
Really dont feel like Bloomberg google search hell, care to drop 25-30 words on this dirt? I know zero about the guy, other than a sense of relief that he appears to be an adult.
Yeah, basically he has a past of questionable racist, misogynist, and homophobic comments and actions. And if you look at some of the things he did as mayor along with causes he's supported since, his authoritarian nature seems pretty well established. He has a string of cases brought by women claiming abuse, and pretty much all have been settled. But the requirement of making them sign an NDA has kept the details silent. Here's a couple of recent stories...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/15/michael-bloomberg-booklet-sexist-remarks-abortion
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/allegations-of-misogynistic-remarks-come-back-to-haunt-bloomberg
https://www.gq.com/story/bloomberg-sexism
There's a ton of articles out there if you look for them. It will be interesting to see what news agencies, reporters, and internet personalities try to make excuses or cover over this past, versus who reports it fairly. Could be an indication of who is benefiting from Mike's money.
The Red Team has made it clear that none of this kind of stuff matters. Implying that liberals are hypocrites about it doesn't change the fact that conservatives have led the way in the last four years to permanently alter the rules and the norms.
Nothing matters anymore. The door has been opened to oligarchy.
Besides, Rich, when did any wealthy guy ever bother you, anyway? :P:P:P
Yup, this will be the push-pull for those on the right vs those on the left.
Democrats and progressives will want to be better than what Trump is, but at the same time, the bar is on the floor because that is where Trump put it...in terms of conflicts of interest or authoritarian tendencies or any kind of questionable views or positions towards certain minorities, and other things like ethical conduct and behavior.
Trump supporters or others in the party who have just closed their eyes and are hanging on for dear life going wherever the cart takes them can't negatively judge other candidates for any suspicious behavior or positions past or present that the current President himself resembles and embodies.
Democrats will want to be careful, they won't want to lower their standards just because of the Trump precedent, but at the same time they might end up with their own checkered past authoritarian-ish candidate (for a moment accepting the point that Bloomberg could be painted in such a way).
Bloomberg vs Trump...I think atleast Bloomberg has working knowledge of how government works and a general understanding for the roles of different branches and government positions. As we are getting a little further into his real entrance into the Democrat primary I don't like the way he has been trying to make himself more palatable to liberal voters. Bloomberg shouldn't try to make himself more like Bernie, he should just be himself. He is going to get hit hard tonight, hard, over and over. Can he take a punch? How is his chin? This is reality TV, the horserace of political elections is pretty fun.
There's serious dirt out there about his past and governing style
Really dont feel like Bloomberg google search hell, care to drop 25-30 words on this dirt? I know zero about the guy, other than a sense of relief that he appears to be an adult.
Yeah, basically he has a past of questionable racist, misogynist, and homophobic comments and actions. And if you look at some of the things he did as mayor along with causes he's supported since, his authoritarian nature seems pretty well established. He has a string of cases brought by women claiming abuse, and pretty much all have been settled. But the requirement of making them sign an NDA has kept the details silent. Here's a couple of recent stories...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/15/michael-bloomberg-booklet-sexist-remarks-abortion
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/allegations-of-misogynistic-remarks-come-back-to-haunt-bloomberg
https://www.gq.com/story/bloomberg-sexism
There's a ton of articles out there if you look for them. It will be interesting to see what news agencies, reporters, and internet personalities try to make excuses or cover over this past, versus who reports it fairly. Could be an indication of who is benefiting from Mike's money.
The Red Team has made it clear that none of this kind of stuff matters. Implying that liberals are hypocrites about it doesn't change the fact that conservatives have led the way in the last four years to permanently alter the rules and the norms.
Nothing matters anymore. The door has been opened to oligarchy.
Besides, Rich, when did any wealthy guy ever bother you, anyway? :P:P:P
Two wrongs make a right - got it!
Regarding the use of his wealth, I already stated that I'm fine with him spending billions on this if he wants - its his 1st Amendment right. Its not about what he does, its about how the party reacts that's interesting. The funny thing is that if reports are to be believed, Mike has already spent 6x what Trump did on his whole campaign - $66 million vs over $400 million. And he's yet to be in a single primary.
Bloomberg is not handling this well at all, looks like a boxer in the 7th round who is already to yell, "No Mas!..No Mas!"
Lil Mike ran right into a buzz saw tonite. So far he has been ripped to shreds by his fellow democrats.
It was awkward for Bloomberg facing off against candidates who have been running for President for in some cases years. Very vulnerable and weak early. He had some moments later on. Assuming he stays in the race past Super Tuesday, I think Bloomberg will do better in a smaller debate field when he can have some more airtime. Had he had some more airtime tonight it probably would've hurt him actually. Tough first night, these are pros he's up against here. Nice TV commercials don't get you anywhere here.
Two wrongs make a right - got it!
did Bloomberg solicit a foreign adversary to hack an American opponent tonight, or did I miss that? sounds like you are really feeling the guilt of openly choosing treason.
Long live the conspiracy theories - MSNBC, et al thanks everyone helping them stay in business on this model!
It was awkward for Bloomberg facing off against candidates who have been running for President for in some cases years. Very vulnerable and weak early. He had some moments later on. Assuming he stays in the race past Super Tuesday, I think Bloomberg will do better in a smaller debate field when he can have some more airtime. Had he had some more airtime tonight it probably would've hurt him actually. Tough first night, these are pros he's up against here. Nice TV commercials don't get you anywhere here.
I found myself wishing there could be an internal soundtrack of Bloomberg's thoughts tonight.
He tried to hide his scowls but you know he was thinking "what a bunch of idiots"
There's serious dirt out there about his past and governing style
Really dont feel like Bloomberg google search hell, care to drop 25-30 words on this dirt? I know zero about the guy, other than a sense of relief that he appears to be an adult.
Yeah, basically he has a past of questionable racist, misogynist, and homophobic comments and actions. And if you look at some of the things he did as mayor along with causes he's supported since, his authoritarian nature seems pretty well established. He has a string of cases brought by women claiming abuse, and pretty much all have been settled. But the requirement of making them sign an NDA has kept the details silent. Here's a couple of recent stories...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/15/michael-bloomberg-booklet-sexist-remarks-abortion
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/allegations-of-misogynistic-remarks-come-back-to-haunt-bloomberg
https://www.gq.com/story/bloomberg-sexism
There's a ton of articles out there if you look for them. It will be interesting to see what news agencies, reporters, and internet personalities try to make excuses or cover over this past, versus who reports it fairly. Could be an indication of who is benefiting from Mike's money.
The Red Team has made it clear that none of this kind of stuff matters. Implying that liberals are hypocrites about it doesn't change the fact that conservatives have led the way in the last four years to permanently alter the rules and the norms.
Nothing matters anymore. The door has been opened to oligarchy.
Besides, Rich, when did any wealthy guy ever bother you, anyway? :P:P:P
Two wrongs make a right - got it!
So who are the two wrongs?
None of you have any issues with anything Trump. Seeing these concerns about some other person’s behavior are comical and sad.
when a Democratic candidates says, “Venezuela, if you’re listening, I hope you find Trump’s emails, you’ll be rewarded”, I'll listen. until then, your cries about the Democrats are rendered worthless. if being called a hypocrite is all you got, you've lost big time.
Exactly. They point of becoming the eventual dem nominee is to beat Trump. Differentiating oneself from Trump is what I'd be interested in hearing. I have zero interest in nuances in theoretical issues from people w/no chance of winning when the GOP is not only relying on foreign intervention/influence but making Trump's record of shaking things up seem "right on" rather than dangerous.
when a Democratic candidates says, “Venezuela, if you’re listening, I hope you find Trump’s emails, you’ll be rewarded”, I'll listen. until then, your cries about the Democrats are rendered worthless. if being called a hypocrite is all you got, you've lost big time.
Exactly. They point of becoming the eventual dem nominee is to beat Trump. Differentiating oneself from Trump is what I'd be interested in hearing. I have zero interest in nuances in theoretical issues from people w/no chance of winning when the GOP is not only relying on foreign intervention/influence but making Trump's record of shaking things up seem "right on" rather than dangerous.
Good lord, you folks have no sense of humor. That comment was said at a rally for humorous effect. You guys take it to stand for State policy. Lighten up.
Foreign intervention? So Dems are proud of Biden leveraging State power to unseat a prosecutor that was potentially looking into the company his son was collecting huge money from for doing nothing? Talk about misplaced priorities.
Should be Warren/Buttigieg. Warren can spar with Trump while Buttigieg discusses policy. Great tag team.
Add, Elizabeth can speak for the Native Americans in this Country and since Beto has dropped out, Pete can be the new new guy uttering the few phrases in Spanish he knows to the Hispanic community!
I realize that last night was only one night, but it felt to me like the more experienced public speakers put the hurt on Bloomers last night in ways he might not be able to shake off.
Of course, there were enough well-phrased soundbites/ attacks on everyone last night that no one emerged unbloodied.
If I were Trump, I would simply use highlight reels from last night as my commercials for the next 6 months. Mission accomplished.
If I were Trump, I would simply use highlight reels from last night as my commercials for the next 6 months. Mission accomplished.
And this little gem!
I realize that last night was only one night, but it felt to me like the more experienced public speakers put the hurt on Bloomers last night in ways he might not be able to shake off.
Of course, there were enough well-phrased soundbites/ attacks on everyone last night that no one emerged unbloodied.
If I were Trump, I would simply use highlight reels from last night as my commercials for the next 6 months. Mission accomplished.
I don't see the point of rivals bashing, zinging, & grilling each other on national TV 11 times to produce a "highlight reel" to be used against whoever becomes the candidate. In the Trumpian Era, all traditional roads to the nomination & election should've been re-evaluated. Experienced candidates who've perfected sound bites & well-placed zingers don't help the party choose a nominee as much as provide future fodder for the GOP to use against the eventual candidate. These dems' campaign staffs are doing Trump's work for him.
YAAAWWNN. Compared to the comedy gold you support in the White House, everything else is boring amateur stand up comedy open mic.
"Comedy Gold" was what happened on that stage in Las Vegas last night.
Your mileage may vary.
My mileage most definitely varies. Nothing is funnier than the clown that represents your ilk in DC.
He is the President, duly elected, he represents all of us.
. . .he represents all of us.
Nope. Free country. It is just a president of a democratic country. I am not in the armed forces so he is not my Commander In Chief. I owe no-one fealty and certainly don't recognize this criminal imposter that you support.
You gotta admit the loyalty is impressive, though. Almost like loyal subjects to a king.
My mileage most definitely varies. Nothing is funnier than the clown that represents your ilk in DC.
I agree - he makes me laugh all the time.
Especially when he does stuff that I know will get the heads spinning at CNN, MSNBC, WaPo, NYTs, etc, and keep them on fire for days and days. Its a hoot to watch the crazy tales and theories they spin.
. . .he represents all of us.
Nope. Free country. It is just a president of a democratic country. I am not in the armed forces so he is not my Commander In Chief. I owe no-one fealty and certainly don't recognize this criminal imposter that you support.
If you are a citizen of this country, guess what?...The President represents you.
My mileage most definitely varies. Nothing is funnier than the clown that represents your ilk in DC.
I agree - he makes me laugh all the time.
Especially when he does stuff that I know will get the heads spinning at CNN, MSNBC, WaPo, NYTs, etc, and keep them on fire for days and days. Its a hoot to watch the crazy tales and theories they spin.
So who are the two wrongs?
The poster is talking about representing us legally, while implying that it is about character or something.
Any "implication" you choose to infer, is on you.
My mileage most definitely varies. Nothing is funnier than the clown that represents your ilk in DC.
I agree - he makes me laugh all the time.
Especially when he does stuff that I know will get the heads spinning at CNN, MSNBC, WaPo, NYTs, etc, and keep them on fire for days and days. Its a hoot to watch the crazy tales and theories they spin.
Like getting rid of the latest DNI because of briefings to Congress on the latest Russian interference in helping Trump in 2020? They report that stuff on CNN, MSNBC,etc. Yep - it's a hoot that Trump does these things, really a riot, funny stuff. You like Trump & those Russians that Trump doesn't want our intel community reporting this info to Congress? Trump loves Russia; our silly intel community is just getting in his way. This is Helsinki Part 2. Just a hoot, isn't it?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/russia-is-helping-elect-trump-again-intel-official-says
[Edited on 2/21/2020 by MartinD28]
Like getting rid of the latest DNI because of briefings to Congress on the latest Russian interference in helping Trump in 2020? They report that stuff on CNN, MSNBC,etc. Yep - it's a hoot that Trump does these things, really a riot, funny stuff. You like Trump & those Russians that Trump doesn't want our intel community reporting this info to Congress? Trump loves Russia; our silly intel community is just getting in his way. This is Helsinki Part 2. Just a hoot, isn't it?
Every time I think he's done something incredibly dangerous, he does something even MORE dangerous. WHY does the agency created post-9/11 for the express purpose of co-ordinating intel from 17 agencies alerting Congress to the amount & type & methods of CURRENT Russian interference in the 2020 election get the DNI fired? Only to be replaced by a PR guy who knows zero about intelligence & even in a benign position like ambassador to a European ally FU'd his 2nd day there but is a Trump loyalist? This isn't a man who puts American security first; he puts allegiance to Trump 1st. It's dangerous to have a man who knows NOTHING about intel in the top spot to prevent another 9/11 or worse.
It makes McConnell & the GOP Senate supporters of Russian interference w/an American democratic process. Did they really think he wasn't going to be emboldened by an acquittal? That he'd learn some kind of lesson? They're even letting him playing games w/the title "acting" DNI until he can get support for appointment - something he couldn't possibly get based on the requirements set forth in the charter establishing the position.
Yeah, he's a laugh riot.
Like getting rid of the latest DNI because of briefings to Congress on the latest Russian interference in helping Trump in 2020? They report that stuff on CNN, MSNBC,etc. Yep - it's a hoot that Trump does these things, really a riot, funny stuff. You like Trump & those Russians that Trump doesn't want our intel community reporting this info to Congress? Trump loves Russia; our silly intel community is just getting in his way. This is Helsinki Part 2. Just a hoot, isn't it?
Every time I think he's done something incredibly dangerous, he does something even MORE dangerous. WHY does the agency created post-9/11 for the express purpose of co-ordinating intel from 17 agencies alerting Congress to the amount & type & methods of CURRENT Russian interference in the 2020 election get the DNI fired? Only to be replaced by a PR guy who knows zero about intelligence & even in a benign position like ambassador to a European ally FU'd his 2nd day there but is a Trump loyalist? This isn't a man who puts American security first; he puts allegiance to Trump 1st. It's dangerous to have a man who knows NOTHING about intel in the top spot to prevent another 9/11 or worse.
It makes McConnell & the GOP Senate supporters of Russian interference w/an American democratic process. Did they really think he wasn't going to be emboldened by an acquittal? That he'd learn some kind of lesson? They're even letting him playing games w/the title "acting" DNI until he can get support for appointment - something he couldn't possibly get based on the requirements set forth in the charter establishing the position.
Yeah, he's a laugh riot.
Yet there are those who think that Dem values in the WH were prevented by Trump by defeating the boogeywoman, HC. I would only wonder if anyone who claims to be an independent or repub would think that Trump is doing the right thing for our national security here. And sadly, this is but one example of the dangers of Trump as prez re: national security. In 3 years we see what he has done. Evidentially our national security is no longer a priority with Trump's enablers in the GOP (Government Of Putin).
Please someone on the other side - defend Trump's latest actions or have the balls to step up and condemn it.
[Edited on 2/21/2020 by MartinD28]
Trump does not represent me. Here is a list of who and what tRump reps.
-Narrow minded religious zealots who are so blinded by their feelings on abortion and gay marriage that they will back an amoral charlatan. See hypocrite
-Xenophobic losers who need a scapegoat to make them feel better about their own shortcomings.
-Vladimir Putin’s interests.
-The garbage reality show television culture that has permeated the minds of the uneducated and willfully ignorant.
Now I suppose those “mean words” I just threw out there are justification for electing a president who favors Kim Jong Un and an ex KGB thug over our allies, govt. and constituents... sounds like the defense of the willfully ignorant.
Trump does not represent me. Here is a list of who and what tRump reps.
-Narrow minded religious zealots who are so blinded by their feelings on abortion and gay marriage that they will back an amoral charlatan. See hypocrite
-Xenophobic losers who need a scapegoat to make them feel better about their own shortcomings.
-Vladimir Putin’s interests.
-The garbage reality show television culture that has permeated the minds of the uneducated and willfully ignorant.Now I suppose those “mean words” I just threw out there are justification for electing a president who favors Kim Jong Un and an ex KGB thug over our allies, govt. and constituents... sounds like the defense of the willfully ignorant.
Not "Mean" at all!
Sad & pathetic, yes, but far from "Mean"
Trump does not represent me. Here is a list of who and what tRump reps.
-Narrow minded religious zealots who are so blinded by their feelings on abortion and gay marriage that they will back an amoral charlatan. See hypocrite
-Xenophobic losers who need a scapegoat to make them feel better about their own shortcomings.
-Vladimir Putin’s interests.
-The garbage reality show television culture that has permeated the minds of the uneducated and willfully ignorant.Now I suppose those “mean words” I just threw out there are justification for electing a president who favors Kim Jong Un and an ex KGB thug over our allies, govt. and constituents... sounds like the defense of the willfully ignorant.
All that nonsense is just a smoke-screen to cover over all the anger because Crooked Hillary lost. You know it and I know it.
Trump does not represent me. Here is a list of who and what tRump reps.
-Narrow minded religious zealots who are so blinded by their feelings on abortion and gay marriage that they will back an amoral charlatan. See hypocrite
-Xenophobic losers who need a scapegoat to make them feel better about their own shortcomings.
-Vladimir Putin’s interests.
-The garbage reality show television culture that has permeated the minds of the uneducated and willfully ignorant.Now I suppose those “mean words” I just threw out there are justification for electing a president who favors Kim Jong Un and an ex KGB thug over our allies, govt. and constituents... sounds like the defense of the willfully ignorant.
All that nonsense is just a smoke-screen to cover over all the anger because Crooked Hillary lost. You know it and I know it.
You have again proved you know NOTHING
I have always and will always be anti Clintons. You use the crooked Hillary bs as a smokescreen for taking any ownership of the corrupt treasonous putz you elected.
And BIGVag it is sad and pathetic that everything i said is true yet you and others still cling to the "well he isn't Hillary" crap. Spite voting is what teenage girls do in student body elections. Again sad and pathetic.
