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http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-jesus-visa-application-denied-2015-1

'Bitcoin Jesus' Renounced His American Citizenship — So Now The US Isn't Letting Him In

Roger Ver, a high-profile member of the Bitcoin community who is commonly known as "Bitcoin Jesus," has been denied a US visa — despite having been born in the country.

Ver is well known in the Bitcoin community as an entrepreneur and angel investor, having funded products including Blockchain, Ripple, and Blockpay. He became known as "Bitcoin Jesus" after giving thousands of coins of the virtual currency away for free. Ver was born in the US, making him a citizen there, but he renounced his citizenship in March — and now he says the government isn't letting him back in.

As Coindesk is reporting, Ver posted on Twitter that the US government had refused his recent request for a non-immigrant visa, leaving him "effectively locked out of his native USA."

Here's Ver's tweet:

Ver complains that the decision has forced him to miss speaking appointments at conferences and that the US embassy in Barbados refused to even consider the evidence for his application.

The official reasoning behind Ver's rejection is that he doesn't have sufficient "ties" to his country of residency in the Caribbean and has not demonstrated he has "the ties that will compel [him] to return to your home country after your travel to the United States," according to a picture he tweeted of a letter that appears to be from the embassy.

In short, US officials are worried that Ver might choose to stay in his native country illegally.
Ver can't appeal the decision, but he is able to apply all over again, according to Coindesk. He has an American criminal record that could count against him, however — he has previously been jailed for 10 months for selling illegal firecrackers to farmers.

The fiercely libertarian entrepreneur has also appealed for others to follow his lead on citizenship, in June launching a website that helps wealthy people pay their way to citizenship on his new island home of the Federation of St. Kitts and Nevis in the West Indies.

He surrendered his American citizenship a month after moving to the islands, in February 2014.


 
Posted : January 15, 2015 12:08 pm
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Assuming his relocation was a tax dodge; well you just can't have it both ways. No taxes; no free reign.

I had a friend who was born in Israel and kept dual citizenship. When he applied for a visa to visit during college Israel told him that he is welcome - as long as he does his army stint. Can't have it both ways


 
Posted : January 15, 2015 12:42 pm
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Assuming his relocation was a tax dodge; well you just can't have it both ways. No taxes; no free reign.

I had a friend who was born in Israel and kept dual citizenship. When he applied for a visa to visit during college Israel told him that he is welcome - as long as he does his army stint. Can't have it both ways

Exactly - Love it or leave it. You left it - so stay away! Personally, I think he has a lot of nerve to complain.


 
Posted : January 15, 2015 12:50 pm
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Assuming his relocation was a tax dodge; well you just can't have it both ways. No taxes; no free reign.

I had a friend who was born in Israel and kept dual citizenship. When he applied for a visa to visit during college Israel told him that he is welcome - as long as he does his army stint. Can't have it both ways

I wish the United States would adopt a mandatory service policy.


 
Posted : January 15, 2015 3:15 pm
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Assuming his relocation was a tax dodge; well you just can't have it both ways. No taxes; no free reign.

I had a friend who was born in Israel and kept dual citizenship. When he applied for a visa to visit during college Israel told him that he is welcome - as long as he does his army stint. Can't have it both ways

I wish the United States would adopt a mandatory service policy.

Hell no.


 
Posted : January 15, 2015 3:22 pm
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!


 
Posted : January 15, 2015 5:18 pm
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When you mess with the dough, you got to go.

That is something many people understand. He can do better in other countries, no GMO corn, no TSA agents groping him at the airport, he just needs to relax and live like a local. I remember a radio broadcaster who was targeted by the govt. to the point he had to do his radio show offshore which he called 'broadcast in a briefcase' from the Dominican republic, the govt. set the SEC on him regarding gving his listeners good stock tips where they made money.

The US is not a free country, it is a tolerant country, but once the govt. gets sufficiently pi**ed off at you, life becomes complicated and unpleasant.


 
Posted : January 16, 2015 11:49 am
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When you mess with the dough, you got to go.

That is something many people understand. He can do better in other countries, no GMO corn, no TSA agents groping him at the airport, he just needs to relax and live like a local. I remember a radio broadcaster who was targeted by the govt. to the point he had to do his radio show offshore which he called 'broadcast in a briefcase' from the Dominican republic, the govt. set the SEC on him regarding gving his listeners good stock tips where they made money.

The US is not a free country, it is a tolerant country, but once the govt. gets sufficiently pi**ed off at you, life becomes complicated and unpleasant.

He wasn't kicked out; he left as a tax dodge. He obviously isn't afraid of the the US government or he wouldn't be complaining that the government wouldn't issue a visa to enter the country.


 
Posted : January 16, 2015 5:26 pm
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Currently no documentation is needed to enter the U.S.

Easiest boarder crossing is our Southern boarder.
Plus you get free food, free housing, free education and welfare money.
Go to California for a driver's license; no documentation necessary.


 
Posted : January 17, 2015 1:26 pm
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Currently no documentation is needed to enter the U.S.

Easiest boarder crossing is our Southern boarder.
Plus you get free food, free housing, free education and welfare money.
Go to California for a driver's license; no documentation necessary.

All of which has nothing to do with the topic.


 
Posted : January 17, 2015 9:12 pm
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Currently no documentation is needed to enter the U.S.

Easiest boarder crossing is our Southern boarder.
Plus you get free food, free housing, free education and welfare money.
Go to California for a driver's license; no documentation necessary.

None of which is true.


 
Posted : January 17, 2015 9:48 pm
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Currently no documentation is needed to enter the U.S.

Easiest boarder crossing is our Southern boarder.
Plus you get free food, free housing, free education and welfare money.
Go to California for a driver's license; no documentation necessary.

None of which is true.

When has the truth ever shown up in mulefool's posts???


 
Posted : January 18, 2015 4:56 am
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Currently no documentation is needed to enter the U.S.

Easiest boarder crossing is our Southern boarder.
Plus you get free food, free housing, free education and welfare money.
Go to California for a driver's license; no documentation necessary.

None of which is true.

_______________________________________________

Either the facts continue to elude you are you are such a Obamna suckup you can't tell the truth.
Your political ideology outweighs your ability to stand up for your country first.

Typical liberal. No wonder y'all keep getting whipped on election day.


 
Posted : January 18, 2015 5:15 am
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Currently no documentation is needed to enter the U.S.

Easiest boarder crossing is our Southern boarder.
Plus you get free food, free housing, free education and welfare money.
Go to California for a driver's license; no documentation necessary.

None of which is true.

_______________________________________________

Either the facts continue to elude you are you are such a Obamna suckup you can't tell the truth.
Your political ideology outweighs your ability to stand up for your country first.

Typical liberal. No wonder y'all keep getting whipped on election day.

Typical muleboy. Make a comment that has nothing to do with the topic. Then, when challenged on his broad nonsequiter comment, he resorts to name calling and insults. Then, like a rooster at dawn, proudly proclaims the conservatives masters of the universe because of the last election. Psst... muleboy... the liberals have one the last 2 presidential elections quite handily.


 
Posted : January 18, 2015 7:38 am
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Typical liberal. No wonder y'all keep getting whipped on election day.

Funny thing about that... the Democrats in Congress received 20 million more votes than the Republicans.

Gotta love that democracy.


 
Posted : January 18, 2015 8:57 am
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Hey, the man invented Ripple. Cut him some slack.


 
Posted : January 18, 2015 10:36 am
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