Beacon Hypothetical
I understand people are adverse to some hypotheticals. Wife & I saw TTB @ Beacon last Oct. Saw ABB there in 03, 05,06 & 09 ( last w/ our 3 sons.
So in 2021 The Brothers stage a March run there. Coronavirus is basically history w/ a vaccine & most of the old people in nursing homes have already passed. As we see tonight deBlasio has defunded NYPD by $1.5 billion & next years recruits have been cancelled.
Ticket prices to the show are reasonable and Trump has been re-elected.
Would you go to a show there?
If yes-why. If not -why? Plz include what city or state you would travel from, how many nights in town & if you’ve been to Beacon before. Thanks.
I received a survey from them the other day, some of you may have as well, but it didn’t suggest any changes from what was occurring at time of survey.
I understand people are adverse to some hypotheticals... most of the old people in nursing homes have already passed. As we see tonight deBlasio has defunded NYPD by $1.5 billion & next years recruits have been cancelled.
Ticket prices to the show are reasonable and Trump has been re-elected.
I'm adverse to hypothetical questions when they are phrased like this. Is this a question? A political statement? A political statement wrapped up in a musical question?
Why do "old people in nursing homes" having to die need to even been mentioned in the question? Why does it matter who is elected president in this scenario?
If it is a political thing, please put it in the political forum.
[Edited on 7/1/2020 by WarEagleRK]
Your post comes across as pretty heartless. Remember you are or will be one of those “old folks” one day.
The other thing is there is almost no chance of shows happening at the Beacon in March. Maybe toward the end of 2021.
I'm old now. Born 1946.
No I wouldn't go. New York City council is cutting NYPD and giving the $1.5 billion to neighborhoods of color each year. De Blaiso says all plainclothes detectives are gone, no more police overtime and no new recruits. Manhattan will be overrun with an increase of crime and assaults and murders by next March. Neighborhoods of color need to be strengthen and fixed especially the southside of Chicago where dozens of African Americans are shot EVERY WEEKEND! But not at the expense of a police department that has the streets under control.
Also I doubt the virus will be under control by next March.
I've seen multiple Allman Brothers shows but I wouldn't be interested in seeing the Brothers in a series of shows even though I enjoyed the single show in March of this year.
The Brothers likely wouldn't do a multi night stand anyway.
The Brothers is NOT the Allman Brothers Band. No Gregg, no Duane, no Dickey, no Butch, no Berry NO Allman Brothers. The last 14 years we did have the Allman Brothers with just three original members. And the key to that was Gregg. If Gregg had quit during that 14 year stretch, the others would have scattered. Indeed the plan was to sunset the band in 2009 but Butch Trucks needed 5 more years so they agreed to 5 more years with a full Beacon run then cut way back with just a short summer tour.
I think most people would tire of hearing the Brothers lineup on a regular basis. So count me out.
I understand people are adverse to some hypotheticals. Wife & I saw TTB @ Beacon last Oct. Saw ABB there in 03, 05,06 & 09 ( last w/ our 3 sons.
So in 2021 The Brothers stage a March run there. Coronavirus is basically history w/ a vaccine & most of the old people in nursing homes have already passed. As we see tonight deBlasio has defunded NYPD by $1.5 billion & next years recruits have been cancelled.
Ticket prices to the show are reasonable and Trump has been re-elected.
Would you go to a show there?
If yes-why. If not -why? Plz include what city or state you would travel from, how many nights in town & if you’ve been to Beacon before. Thanks.
I received a survey from them the other day, some of you may have as well, but it didn’t suggest any changes from what was occurring at time of survey.
HMM GREAT POST ..NOT..... NURSING HOME REFERENCE AND 45 RE ELECTED WHATS THAT RELATIVE TO GOING TO SEE MUSIC....I WOULD NOT GO BEEN THERE DONE THAT, BUT I WILL VOTE EARLY AND OFTEN SO THIS HYPOTHRTICAL DISPOSES THE PIECE OF SHIT OUT OF THE white HOUSE....
New York City council is cutting NYPD and giving the $1.5 billion to neighborhoods of color each year.
????. The budget cut means that school crossing guards & homeless services will no longer be part of the NYPD. Long overdue. Students and the homeless are better served by a department other than one devoted to law enforcement.
I wouldn't know where to find a "neighborhood of color." Yeah, maybe one block is predominately Dominicans and 3 blocks away is Jamaican, but I'd hardly describe that as a neighborhood. I've never heard of a NYC budget w/a line item that is neighborhood by neighborhood.
I agree w/the rest of your post. I loved the ABB and Gregg's various bands. Beyond that, I don't care about bands w/some former ABB members. I've no interest in any derivative bands no matter where they play.
cyclone88. Just relaying the way it read on Google news. I rented space at the Stanford hotel on W.41st some years ago. Just a block from the Empire State Building. But most of the people in this 3 to 4 block area were Korean. The hotel was run by Koreans. Guess it's a neighbor of color?
I imagine de Blasio was speaking more about the economic position of the majority of people in a section.
Crime will go up and it already has under de Blasio. The New York Post just gave the mayor the honor of being the worst mayor in New York City history.
He is having a huge Black Lives Matter sign painted on 5th Avenue in front of Trump Tower and Tiffany and Co. He wants those billionaires to know they aren't anything special in his eyes.
Yes I also agree that putting a band on stage with people who played in later lineups of the ABB with one original member who may not be able to do it next year or the year after and think we have our Allman Brothers Band back is wishful thinking. It doesn't work.
New York City council is cutting NYPD and giving the $1.5 billion to neighborhoods of color each year.
I wouldn't know where to find a "neighborhood of color." Yeah, maybe one block is predominately Dominicans and 3 blocks away is Jamaican, but I'd hardly describe that as a neighborhood. I've never heard of a NYC budget w/a line item that is neighborhood by neighborhood.
Yeah, bizarre. ALL neighborhood in NYC receive public money, it certainly isn't divided up based on neighborhoods, which are all diverse on their own. I wouldn't call Midtown's Koreatown a neighborhood, it's a commercial district.
cyclone88. Just relaying the way it read on Google news. I rented space at the Stanford hotel on W.41st some years ago. Just a block from the Empire State Building. But most of the people in this 3 to 4 block area were Korean. The hotel was run by Koreans. Guess it's a neighbor of color?
I don't believe in "fake news," but I do think information is either misunderstood or misrepresented when presented sometimes. You're absolutely right. There was a time when NY state offered grants to minorities to invest in rundown or vacant buildings in the 39th/41st St areas & Koreans took advantage of that. There was even a Korean TV broadcast studio there. Now, it's just generic. Chicago is much more of a city of neighborhoods than NYC.
To me, painting anything on streets is no different than graffiti or statues - it's not going to make a positive change. Painting "BLM" on 5th Ave. doesn't just poke the luxury absentee residents of Trump Tower, but hurts the local firms (medical, legal, financial) that have offices in the Rockefeller Plaza buildings & neighboring museums, hotels, and stores that attract tourists should they ever come to NYC again after Covid19. Why deliberately make an area provocative during a pandemic?
Yes I also agree that putting a band on stage with people who played in later lineups of the ABB with one original member who may not be able to do it next year or the year after and think we have our Allman Brothers Band back is wishful thinking. It doesn't work.
It may work for some people, but I'm not one of them. I go back to when Duane was alive & their earliest stuff is what still resonates the most for me. It may be blasphemy, but I don't care what any of the original ABB's kids sound like. They're their own selves. The only child of a famous band that had any success at all that I can think of is Julian Lennon. I never heard him when he was performing, but I doubt seeing him was like seeing the Beatles.
...The only child of a famous band that had any success at all that I can think of is Julian Lennon. I never heard him when he was performing, but I doubt seeing him was like seeing the Beatles.
I really enjoyed the first two Wallflowers albums. I think Jakob Dylan has created and written material of his own mold. I've never heard him refer to or even cover his famous dad. The Wallflowers - as opposed to "the Jakob Dylan Band".
Dweezil Zappa has done well playing Frank’s music w/his band, like Zappa plays Zappa, the Hot Rats shows etc - the ZPZ show in Burlington was Burn-Down good, Frank would’ve been proud - Dweezil is a great player -
would really like to see Allman-Betts Band, enjoy their music
Skipping most of the posts here and the initial post/question seems bizarre.
I have traveled from out of state for a good number of Beacon shows 2003-2018 and stayed quite a few nights on occasion. I went to see Dickey there...in a way it was cool to relive the atmosphere, but in another way it was somewhat of a disappointing experience considering the last time I was in that building.
I wasn't interested in the MSG show and I wouldn't be interested in attending a Beacon hypothetical show for one reason and one reason only, no Gregg. Love the music and talent everyone else brings to the table, but Gregg was heart and soul of the band and to me the key figure. I'll listen to anything else the members want to do and enjoy most of it, sure. But I'm not making a trip to NYC to see them no matter what variables are implied in the original post.
The Stanford Hotel is on West 31st Street. Not West 41st Street. My mistake. And the neighborhood is Koreatown.
I think a statue of Fred C. Trump, Sr is being erected in front of Trump tower.
I think a statue of Fred C. Trump, Sr is being erected in front of Trump tower.
A statue to remember a racist slumlord who was sued by the feds for discrimination?
This post needs to be moved over to the “How Messed Up Is This Country When...” thread.
a racist slumlord who was sued by the feds for discrimination?
Might this be in anyway similar to a creepy old Senator who can not keep his paws to himself?
Yes I also agree that putting a band on stage with people who played in later lineups of the ABB with one original member who may not be able to do it next year or the year after and think we have our Allman Brothers Band back is wishful thinking. It doesn't work.
If it is commemoration and celebration of the music of ABB that is how it should be looked at.
Everyone knows it will not be ABB, if they capture the energy and essence of the legacy due to their love of the original music it could be a good thing even a new tradition, but ticket prices would have to be lower than for an ABB show.
What if they called it The Brothers Remembered or even The Beacon Brothers [like the Blues Brothers ABB style though Jake and Elwood would not be performing.]
[Edited on 7/3/2020 by gina]
Been trying for a week now to make sense out of the OP on this thread.
Giving up.
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