Coronavirus testing hits dramatic slowdown in U.S.
Despite efforts to expand, the continued glitches in the U.S. testing system are threatening to impede attempts to re-open the economy and return to normal life.
By DAVID LIM
04/14/2020 07:01 PM EDT
The number of coronavirus tests analyzed each day by commercial labs in the U.S. plummeted by more than 30 percent over the past week, even though new infections are still surging in many states and officials are desperately trying to ramp up testing so the country can reopen.
One reason for the drop-off may be the narrow testing criteria that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention last revised in March. The agency’s guidelines prioritize hospitalized patients, health care workers and those thought to be especially vulnerable to the disease, such as the elderly. Health providers have been turning away others in part due to shortages of the swabs used to collect samples.
It’s not clear whether demand has peaked among the groups on the CDC’s priority list. But after being overwhelmed for weeks, commercial labs say they are now sitting with unused testing capacity waiting for samples to arrive.
The continued glitches in the U.S. testing system are threatening to impede attempts to reopen the economy and return to normal life. Expanding testing as much as possible is essential so officials have enough data to determine when it’s safe to lift social distancing measures and allow people to go back to work. Continued testing beyond that point will help officials detect — and stamp out — sparks that could set off new outbreaks.
FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn told POLITICO on Tuesday the White House Coronavirus Task Force is continuing to discuss whether changes to the testing criteria are warranted.
Coronavirus Dispatch: Where are the tests?
“This is part of an ongoing discussion that we’re having,” he said. “People are working overtime on that one.”
Hahn’s comments came as the American Clinical Laboratory Association reported that the number of samples commercial labs handle each day fell from 108,000 on April 5 to 75,000 by April 12. The group’s members, including commercial giants Quest and LabCorp, analyze about two-thirds of all coronavirus tests in the U.S.
“ACLA members have now eliminated testing backlogs, and have considerable capacity that is not being used,” ACLA President Julie Khani told POLITICO. “We stand ready to perform more testing and are in close communication with public health partners about ways we can support additional needs.”
The Department of Health of Human Services has also seen a downtick in the number of tests analyzed nationwide in recent days, a spokesperson said.
But the Association of Public Health Laboratories said its members, which have been analyzing a smaller portion of coronavirus tests, have not noticed a similar decrease in demand. The American Hospital Association said it is not aware of member hospitals conducting fewer tests, but added “it’s not something we have numbers on.”
Public health experts, including former FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb, have put forth several plans outlining how the U.S. could reopen, and all agree that the country needs to dramatically increase the number of Americans tested — in part by expanding who is eligible for screening.
Achieving that goal will require a major expansion of lab capacity and the supply of test kits, Gottlieb said last week on Twitter. "Getting next million tests/week will be harder than getting the first," he wrote.
The CDC has not yet responded to questions about whether it is considering changes to its testing criteria.
Top Trump administration officials have been bullish on the country’s capacity to expand testing
Vice President Mike Pence told reporters Monday that the government believes that if labs are able to utilize the machines they already have in house “we could double the amount of testing in the United States literally overnight.”
Quest Diagnostics, one of two major U.S. commercial lab companies, told POLITICO it is increasing outreach to health providers to “ensure patients are receiving testing they need.” The lab company, which had a backlog of 160,000 tests as recently as late March, says it now can run 45,000 tests per day and has unused capacity.
But some labs are still struggling with supply shortages that make it difficult to analyze samples. Many medical school labs and teaching hospitals are having trouble getting enough swabs, personal protective equipment and other supplies needed to collect and analyze patient samples, Association of American Medical Colleges CEO David Skorton said Monday in a letter to the White House.
“Widespread but uneven shortages in one or more of the essential components for testing have resulted in a situation where few labs are able to maximize the testing capacity of any one machine, platform, or test,” Skorton wrote.
And Wyoming's public health lab says that in recent days it has cut back on testing because of limited supplies. "We are only taking the priority samples out of a need to preserve the reagent we have,” said Kim Deti, spokesperson for the state health department.
Dan Goldberg contributed to this report.
H/T Politico
Per my job (supply chain procurement for a major health system), this has been my life every day for over a month.
When it comes to the tests, it’s the swabs. Major, major shortage on swabs. Suppliers have tried to ramp up production but there has been major shortages of raw materials, cotton in particular.
The tests are the key. More tests, more tracing. More tracing, you can find the virus and isolate it.
Politics completely and totally aside, there are nearly not as many tests available as has been claimed.
Per my job (supply chain procurement for a major health system), this has been my life every day for over a month.
When it comes to the tests, it’s the swabs. Major, major shortage on swabs. Suppliers have tried to ramp up production but there has been major shortages of raw materials, cotton in particular.
The tests are the key. More tests, more tracing. More tracing, you can find the virus and isolate it.
Politics completely and totally aside, there are nearly not as many tests available as has been claimed.
I've read that beyond the swabs, there are other test components that are in severe shortage as well...Like chemicals needed to manufacture the tests.
Great innovation in testing evolution has come about in a short period of time with 15 minute tests and now saliva based testing rather than the up the nose type. But with that over the past several weeks has come much confusion in obtaining tests, faulty tests, bottle necks in processing the tests, idle capacity here, over capacity there and shortages in the products utilized in the testing process. Honestly, there is so much news coming out daily I can't keep up with who has what test or who is getting tests and who isn't getting tests.
Ohio is addressing the shortages in swabs and the solution by making it rather than trying to buy or otherwise obtain it. I assume other states are doing the same?
FDA approves COVID-19 innovations; Ohio State Medical Center to share nationwide
Interdisciplinary team of scientists develops test kit components to address shortages
WASHINGTON, April 17 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump, whose administration has faced criticism over a shortfall in coronavirus testing capacity, said on Friday that individual states were responsible for developing testing capabilities.
Makes sense to me. Once the federal government (FDA) approves and clears tests for use its up to each state to figure out where to set up, how to test, and how to report the results.
That does make sense
It’s a far cry from “everybody that wants a test can get one”
I thought it was good when Trump left the press conference yesterday and Fauci, Birx and the Admiral were allowed to talk so much. Then Trump came back and it went in the toilet again.
In Ohio, and I believe in most of the nation, the capacity to complete the test is available, that isn't the issue. There is limited capability to administer the test due to test component issues. The Admiral discussed this:
Admiral Giroir: (01:03:53)
I don’t know how interested you are in swabs. I did not know a whole lot of swabs before a few weeks ago, but there’s two points I want to make with these slides is yes, there have been constraining elements. And they’re.Constrained for a couple reasons. Number one, because this is an unprecedented scale up of this type of very sophisticated molecular test that has never put a demand on the system like we have. When we started out a few weeks ago, there’s very specific one type of swab, only get at one place in the US, one place in Italy and we were stuck with that for a while because it’s not just the quantity, it’s the quality. What I don’t want to do is put a lot of things in the system to make people believe that this is a good test when it hasn’t been validated by the FDA, to say that a positive is a positive and a negative is a negative. But over the past weeks, both the scientific community, the Gates Foundation, academic medical centers, the FDA have really opened up our ability to not stick that all the way back in your nasal pharynx but do the anterior nose and to greatly broaden the amount of swab types that are available. So, we are really at a point right now that by the end of April, we’ll put another 5 million swabs in addition to everything that’s out there now and by the end of May, over 12 million new swabs in the system. More than enough to obtain the capacity that we need. Next slide. For these molecular tests, you take a swab and you stick it in a test tube and that test tube has to have a specific kind of liquid in it. And when we started it was viral transport media, a very special kind of media. The CDC has a make your own recipe. If you’re interested in cooking, you could probably do that, but it has a lot of ingredients that go in there, but still very limiting. We’ve worked with many different laboratories. We’ve worked with the FDA, so now PBS, phosphate buffered saline, just a laboratory grade salt water can be used for this. This greatly opens the ability to expand the test to support all the capability that Dr. Birx talks about. And again, by the end of April we will have put a well over 5 million new tubes of either viral transport media or saline into the system. I am going to get to a conclusion here, but this was going to be more of a technical briefing. Next slide.Admiral Giroir: (01:06:19)
So, let’s talk about the fact that the science tells us that we have and will continue to have enough tests to safely go into phase one. So, let me be very granular about this. We’ve already heard that it is beyond the possibility to test everyone in this country every day. It’s just not possible, but it’s also a bad strategy because testing a person now just means they’re negative now. Dr. Fauci could be positive tomorrow because it’s brewing in his system right now and we don’t know it or that he contacts that. That’s not the way we go about things. The way we go about things, as Dr. Redfield said, just think of the weather radar, okay? If the weather radar is clear, you’re not going to have a thunderstorm or tornado. When something pops up, that’s when you’ve got to go to where the action is or know that your warning system is up. So, think of that in the background and I’ll go specifically about that. So, that’s monitoring. Let me talk about how much testing we need just for overall testing.Admiral Giroir: (01:07:32)
I’m just going to give you a number. I’m not saying that this is the number that’s there, but let’s just take a number that we are going to enter phase one when there are 200,000 new cases per month in the United States. Don’t get hung up on that, it’s going to be much less than that, but let’s just say 200,000 cases. So, how many tests do we need? Well, we need to test those 200,000 people to make the diagnosis, right? Everybody, nod your head about that. We have to do that. Now, what’s a safe number over that? You know if everybody I test has the disease, I’m not testing enough, right? But if I test 100 people, to have one person with the disease, that’s probably over testing. So, we assume that a safe number that really gives us a good idea is if about one out of 10 people are positive, then we know we’re oversampling the population enough that we’re getting all the positives. So, if there’s 200,000 cases, I need about 2 million tests, okay? Now, to go to Dr. Redfield’s point, each one of those that are positive have contacts that need to be traced. And on average, the CDC tells me that for every positive there are about five contacts that really need to be traced.Admiral Giroir: (01:08:42)
So, let’s assume that those 200,000 people have five contacts, so now we have an extra million tests. So, 2 million tests out there to detect the 200,000 cases, an extra million out there to trace those contacts, so we’re up to about 3 million cases. If you want to put a fudge factor, say that’s 4 million tests, okay? Those are generally done at the main hospital labs, the commercial labs, state and regional labs. All this can be done as well as some of the labs talked about by Dr. Birx. Next slide. The second group of testing fits exactly perfectly with the influenza-like surveillance system that Dr. Redfield talked about. This is the monitoring. This is the weather radar that it would be out there, that we’re not testing people who are symptomatic. We want to do testing on people who are asymptomatic because you can have asymptomatic carriage, you could have this virus and shed it and not have symptoms or only mild symptoms.Admiral Giroir: (01:11:48)
So, let’s just total that up. We have 200,000 people who need a diagnosis. To make that diagnosis, we want to test 2 million. Okay, so that’s 2 million. We’re going to contact trace with 1 million and let’s just throw you a fudge factor of about 25% on that, so that’s 4 million. And we have this background testing of about 400,000 per month. So, to safely do the testing we need to be in the range of 4.5 million. You followed my numbers, I want you to understand per month that-Speaker 9: (01:12:24)
For phase one.Admiral Giroir: (01:12:25)
Right, for phase one and I want to tell you that’s really how it adds up and that’s where we are. Right now, we’re doing about 1 million to 1.2 million per week. We’re going to continue to push that further and further as we open up the laboratories and we’re able to open all the supplies that we need for that. And I think that’s where I would like to end. Thank you.https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-coronavirus-press-conference-transcript-april-17
Sounds good in theory, on paper. How will it work out in practice?
I really thought the information we were getting yesterday was probably the most beneficial of all the briefings. Then Trump comes back in and he fields all the questions I think instead of having the experts field questions.
Everything mentioned above points to why it is ESSENTIAL that the federal gov't get their act together and coordinate the testing process, protocol, acquisition, etc. for the states....This is a challenge beyond the capability of any and all states combined.
Once again, mental midget Trump can't help himself and confuses the issue simply so he can avoid blame for this entire debacle when the sh&t hits the fan. It's all about self-preservation for himself.
Sounds good in theory, on paper. How will it work out in practice?
I really thought the information we were getting yesterday was probably the most beneficial of all the briefings. Then Trump comes back in and he fields all the questions I think instead of having the experts field questions.
And why is that? Trump just can't let the experts close the show. He has to do the wrap-up and throw his "expertise" and spin & show us that he is in charge. It is good that we're getting daily briefings, but less of him would be welcomed. Is there any doubt that a portion of these briefings are replacements for MAGA rallies that he's can't do these days? He must be having withdrawl symptoms. So his uses his pulpit to see this as a replacement; just like the other day when at the briefing he showed a cut and paste flattery infomercial of himself and how he's been on top of this since day 1. Can't he just step aside for the good of the American people and let the experts own the briefings?
Despite efforts to expand, the continued glitches in the U.S. testing system are threatening to impede attempts to re-open the economy and return to normal life.
Cast blame anywhere you choose. Call it a glitch or a lack of testing, whatever. I do not believe for a moment that life will return to "normal" until the experts can tell us with all certainty that once you've contracted this virus, you can not get it a second time.
President Trump has made sufficient testing supplies available to every state.
It is the state Governors responsibility to get their citizens tested.As with the responsibility for public health lies with the states now we will see if they do their jobs.
Trump has not made sufficient testing supplies available and everyone knows it. Will he ever do his job and bring the full force of the Federal gov't to bear on procuring enough tests? Doubtful as he's too busy tweeting insults to the governors actually engaged in fighting the pandemic...Being the child he is, he can't help himself.
But keep trying to spin the truth, Bot Boy. There could be a bonus in it for you come next pay period. Nikita in payroll leaked an email from Putin stating as much.
Trump has not made sufficient testing supplies available and everyone knows it.
You and the others who guzzle the Kool-Aid certainly want and choose to believe it
Trump has not made sufficient testing supplies available and everyone knows it.
You and the others who guzzle the Kool-Aid certainly want and choose to believe it
So before y'all start fighting again, BigV give it a shot...what do you think the President, or even just the administration - what would you like to cite or offer to the criticism that they haven't done enough. To a point, I think a case can be made, I personally just think there is a disconnect from what people like the Admiral say is happening and will happen vs what states are saying is reality, right now. But offer up some point or counterpoint to the "kool-aid" drinkers. If there is evidence you would like to show them that would seem better than just throwing punches back and forth. You are quite capable of doing so when you choose.
Trump has not made sufficient testing supplies available and everyone knows it.
You and the others who guzzle the Kool-Aid certainly want and choose to believe it
So before y'all start fighting again, BigV give it a shot...what do you think the President, or even just the administration - what would you like to cite or offer to the criticism that they haven't done enough. To a point, I think a case can be made, I personally just think there is a disconnect from what people like the Admiral say is happening and will happen vs what states are saying is reality, right now. But offer up some point or counterpoint to the "kool-aid" drinkers. If there is evidence you would like to show them that would seem better than just throwing punches back and forth. You are quite capable of doing so when you choose.
Thanks, depth when it is appropriate. I firmly and resolutely believe two things as this debacle continues to unfold. No matter what the president does or as stated "should have done" there are a dozen or so here who will find fault, that's cool. As far as my day goes, I will survive. I sometimes feel merely as a counterpoint and because so many here are overly cautious about speaking their minds, that is exactly what I do...not necessarily in defense of the President but more or less in an attempt to represent those who will not...Considering the source for all the early "evidence" that came directly from the Chinese Government, I believe our Government has acted responsibly and Constitutionally. There are those who think for themselves and do the research and the "majority" who choose to place themselves at the mercy of the media and the "experts" who put out info that conforms to their own philosophy.
Personally, for what it is worth, I have a lot more respect for those who formulate their own opinions and put them out there regardless of what some will think.
Trump has not made sufficient testing supplies available and everyone knows it.
You and the others who guzzle the Kool-Aid certainly want and choose to believe it
So before y'all start fighting again, BigV give it a shot...what do you think the President, or even just the administration - what would you like to cite or offer to the criticism that they haven't done enough. To a point, I think a case can be made, I personally just think there is a disconnect from what people like the Admiral say is happening and will happen vs what states are saying is reality, right now. But offer up some point or counterpoint to the "kool-aid" drinkers. If there is evidence you would like to show them that would seem better than just throwing punches back and forth. You are quite capable of doing so when you choose.
Thanks, depth when it is appropriate. I firmly and resolutely believe two things as this debacle continues to unfold. No matter what the president does or as stated "should have done" there are a dozen or so here who will find fault, that's cool. As far as my day goes, I will survive. I sometimes feel merely as a counterpoint and because so many here are overly cautious about speaking their minds, that is exactly what I do...not necessarily in defense of the President but more or less in an attempt to represent those who will not...Considering the source for all the early "evidence" that came directly from the Chinese Government, I believe our Government has acted responsibly and Constitutionally. There are those who think for themselves and do the research and the "majority" who choose to place themselves at the mercy of the media and the "experts" who put out info that conforms to their own philosophy.
Personally, for what it is worth, I have a lot more respect for those who formulate their own opinions and put them out there regardless of what some will think.
It's fun to push buttons for people, we all do that. I just like it better when people actually exchange ideas and opinions.
There are people in the administration that knows what needs done, but either they don't know how to do it or there is some bottle neck in big government inefficiency. For all these testing supplies, ingredients and reagents, we would most certainly benefit from a central command in getting all that stuff. So I'll put myself in the group that says Trump or his administration hasn't done enough.
I'm like you in a sense in that I think Trump is the biggest incompetent idiot I've probably ever seen. While occasionally I agree with a policy position of his that I will post in affirmation of, normally when I post a counter point or argument here it is usually just to offer another perspective because if people here didn't do that, would all the Trump haters still enjoy coming here and just all being in agreement in their distrust, contempt and outrage at all things Trump. I mean, there needs to be some other voice or everyone just gets bored and stops coming.
There is almost no testing in my state except for people showing symptoms and needing hospitalization. They are starting a local place to get the antibody test - $55. They just started 2 places for first responders and those at risk to get tests - very long lines. 2 places in the Chicago area - for over 3 million people. But believe whatever bullsh!t they told you to post.
There is almost no testing in my state except for people showing symptoms and needing hospitalization. They are starting a local place to get the antibody test - $55. They just started 2 places for first responders and those at risk to get tests - very long lines. C- for over 3 million people. But believe whatever bullsh!t they told you to post.
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Days of Operation: Daily
Requirements: Must call curbside and pass screening criteria.
Website or COVID Hotline: http://www.heartlandmedicalgroup.com/heartland-regional-medical-group/services1/express-care-4288.aspx
Markham, IL
IDPH Markam Drive-through
Hours: 8:00am - 4:00pm
Days of Operation: Daily
Requirements: No appointment required. Capacity is limited. Hours of operation subject to change on a daily basis, based on available equipment and throughput.
Website or COVID Hotline: 1-800-889-3931
Mattoon, IL
Sarah Bush Lincoln Respiratory Clinic
Hours: 7:00am - 7:00pm, 8:00am - 3:00pm
Days of Operation: Monday - Friday, Saturday - Sunday
Requirements: Must call in advance for screening over the phone. If further evaluation is needed, patients will be directed to clinic.
Website or COVID Hotline: https://www.sarahbush.org/
Niles, IL
Northshore Immediate Care - Niles
Hours: 9:00am-7:00pm, 8:00am-5:00pm
Days of Operation: Monday - Friday, Saturday - Sunday
Requirements: Tests will only be given following a determination of need, based on symptoms of exposure, by a Northshore healthcare provider. Please call the triage number or sign up for an E-Visit at their website before visiting the testing site.
Website or COVID Hotline: www.northshore.org/immediatecare
Oak Park, IL
Rush Oak Park
Hours:
Days of Operation:
Requirements: Testing is available by appointment only; call triage first.
Website or COVID Hotline: https://www.rush.edu/patients-visitors/coronavirus-covid-19-information-and-resources
Skokie, IL
Northshore Immediate Care - Old Orchard
Hours: 8:00am-9:00p, 8:00am-8:00pm
Days of Operation: Monday - Thursday, Friday - Sunday
Requirements: Tests will only be given following a determination of need, based on symptoms of exposure, by a Northshore healthcare provider. Please call the triage number or sign up for an E-Visit at their website before visiting the testing site.
Website or COVID Hotline: www.northshore.org/immediatecare
Northshore Immediate Care - Old Orchard Testing Tent
Hours: 8:30am-4:30pm
Days of Operation: Monday - Thursday, Friday - Sunday
Requirements: Tests will only be given following a determination of need, based on symptoms of exposure, by a Northshore healthcare provider. Please call the triage number or sign up for an E-Visit at their website before visiting the testing site.
Website or COVID Hotline: www.northshore.org/immediatecare
Waukegan, IL
Vista Health System
Hours: 24 hours
Days of Operation: Daily
Requirements: Walk-ins accepted. Medicial screening upon arrival to determine if test needed and if patient needs to be admitted.
Website or COVID Hotline: vistahealth.com
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What more do you expect?
Admiral Giroir says by the end of April there will be an additional 5 million swabs in the system.
According to the Covid tracking site and doing the math:
Sunday 4/12 to Saturday 4/18 there were 1,032,868 tests performed nationally
Sunday 4/5 to Saturday 4/11 there were 1,012,586 tests performed nationally
Sunday 3/29 to Saturday 4/4 there were 905,417 tests performed nationally
So the numbers are increasingly weekly, pretty sure it is safe to assume they will keep increasing.
Question is, what is the ideal number of weekly tests, what is realistic? You can't have tests for every private employee of every company or healthcare worker or first responder or government worker because you would have to test them multiple times every single week. Just because they were negative Monday doesn't mean they will be negative still on Thursday.
Admiral Giroir believes that a little over 1 million per week is enough. I don't know, who am I to know. Is there an unrealistic and even and unnecessary expectation by the public of some unattainable number of weekly tests? I mean do people want, what 50 million tests performed per week, would that even be enough to satisfy some people's worries?
There’s a lot of things in this thread that would be pretty cool were they actually true.
Anyone knows how I can access that pile of 300 million tests, please shoot me a PM.
The Republican governor of Maryland and the Republican governor of Ohio both said today that they don't have enough tests.
In the other thread one of our friends heard we need 2-3x more tests. This morning on a news show a governor said ‘experts’ say we need regular testing of 2-3% of the population.
We are doing 1m tests a week. Taking that 2-3x does seem achievable under the right circumstances (which are absent right now). But is that really enough? How do they determine what is enough? The admiral guy says a little over 4 million a month is enough for phase 1.
2-3% of the population? Regularly? That is 6.6 to 9.9 million tests. What is regularly? How do you get there?
I think we are going to have to ease into this without testing being much better than what we have now.
Ohio has done About 80,000 tests to date. Governor says it’s not enough, we don’t have enough yet he wants to try a relaxing on May 1.
It comes back to, you tested negative Monday, that doesn’t mean you will be negative Thursday. So everyone is going to get tested multiple times every week? It’s impossible.
There is almost no testing in my state except for people showing symptoms and needing hospitalization. They are starting a local place to get the antibody test - $55. They just started 2 places for first responders and those at risk to get tests - very long lines. C- for over 3 million people. But believe whatever bullsh!t they told you to post.
"In my State"
"In the Chicago area"
COVID-19 Testing Sites
Illinois Department of Public Health Testing SitesAntioch, IL
PromptMed Urgent Care
Hours: 8:00am - 8:00pm M-F, 9:00am - 5:00pm Sat/Sun
Days of Operation: Daily
Requirements: by Appointment only, please call 847-652-9700
Website or COVID Hotline: 847-652-9700 https://www.promptmedurgentcare.net/
Aurora, IL
AMITA Health Mercy Medical Center Aurora
Hours: 24 hours
Days of Operation: Daily
Requirements: AMITA patients should make appointment with primary care physician for telehealth evaluation.
Website or COVID Hotline: https://www.amitahealth.org/covid-19/
Bloomington, IL - not Chicago area
IDPH McLean County Fairgrounds Drive-through
Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm
Days of Operation: Daily
Requirements: No appointment required. Capacity is limited. Hours of operation subject to change on a daily basis, based on available equipment and throughput.
Website or COVID Hotline: 1-800-889-3931
Bolingbrook, IL
AMITA Health Adventist Medical Center Bolingbrook
Hours: 24 hours
Days of Operation: Daily
Requirements: AMITA patients should make appointment with primary care physician for telehealth evaluation.
Website or COVID Hotline: https://www.amitahealth.org/covid-19/
Champaign, IL - not Chicago area
Christie Clinic
Hours: 8:00am - 5:00pm
Days of Operation: Monday - Friday
Requirements: Testing for Christie Clinic patients only. Must call Christie Clinic Coronavirus Hotline (217-366-4070) in advance for telehealth screening prior to scheduling an appt.
Website or COVID Hotline: 217-366-4070 https://www.christieclinic.com/
Chicago, IL
AMITA Health Resurrection Medical Center Chicago
Hours: 24 hours
Days of Operation: Daily
Requirements: AMITA patients should make appointment with primary care physician for telehealth evaluation.
Website or COVID Hotline: https://www.amitahealth.org/covid-19/
AMITA Health Saint Joseph Hospital Chicago
Hours: 24 hours
Days of Operation: Daily
Requirements: AMITA patients should make appointment with primary care physician for telehealth evaluation.
Website or COVID Hotline: https://www.amitahealth.org/covid-19/
AMITA Health Saints Mary and Elizabeth Medical Center Chicago (Saint Mary Campus)
Hours: 24 hours
Days of Operation: Daily
Requirements: AMITA patients should make appointment with primary care physician for telehealth evaluation.
Website or COVID Hotline: https://www.amitahealth.org/covid-19/
IDPH Harwood Heights Drive-through
Hours: 7:00am - 3:00pm
Days of Operation: Daily
Requirements: No appointment required. Capacity is limited. Hours of operation subject to change on a daily basis, based on available equipment and throughput.
Website or COVID Hotline: 1-800-889-3931
Howard Brown Health & Project Vida
Hours: 10:00am - 4:30pm
Days of Operation: Weekdays & Saturday until 3:pm
Requirements: Flu-like symptoms or direct contact with a known COVID19 Positive Individual
Howard Brown Health 63rd St.
Hours: 10:00am - 4:30pm
Days of Operation: Weekdays
Requirements:Flu-like symptoms or direct contact with a known COVID19 Positive Individual
Howard Brown Health 55th St.
Hours: 10:00am - 4:30pm
Days of Operation: Weekdays
Requirements:Flu-like symptoms or direct contact with a known COVID19 Positive Individual
Howard Brown Health Halstead
Hours: 10:00am - 4:30pm
Days of Operation: Weekdays
Requirements:Flu-like symptoms or direct contact with a known COVID19 Positive Individual
Howard Brown Health Sheridan
Hours: 10:00am - 4:30pm
Days of Operation: Weekdays
Requirements:Flu-like symptoms or direct contact with a known COVID19 Positive Individual
Howard Brown Health Clark
Hours: 10:00am - 4:30pm
Days of Operation: Weekdays
Requirements:Flu-like symptoms or direct contact with a known COVID19 Positive Individual
Howard Brown Health Mobile
Hours: 10:00am - 4:30pm
Days of Operation: Weekdays & Saturday until 3:pm
Requirements:Flu-like symptoms or direct contact with a known COVID19 Positive Individual
Howard Brown Health & Taskforce Prevention
Hours: 10:00am - 4:30pm
Days of Operation: Weekdays & Saturday until 3:pm
Requirements:Flu-like symptoms or direct contact with a known COVID19 Positive Individual
Michigan Avenue Immediate Care
Hours: Before 4:00pm
Days of Operation: Monday - Friday
Requirements: Appointment required.
Website or COVID Hotline: 866-600-CARE (866-600-2273)
Mile Square Health Center-Drive Up Center
Hours: 9:00am - 4:00pm
Days of Operation: Monday - Friday
Requirements: Appointment required. Currently must be a UI Health Patient, Student, Employee or Mile Square patient but will be accepting new patients.
Website or COVID Hotline: 1-866-600-CARE
Mile Square Health Center-Pilsen COVID Evaluation Clinic
Hours: 8:00am - 5:30pm, 8:00am - 7:30pm
Days of Operation: Monday/Wednesday/Friday, Tuesday/Thursday
Requirements: Appointment required. Currently must be a UI Health Patient, Student, Employee or Mile Square patient but will be accepting new patients.
Website or COVID Hotline: 1-866-600-CARE
Rush
Hours: 24 hours (hotline), 7:00am - 11:00pm (video visits)
Days of Operation: Daily
Requirements:
Website or COVID Hotline: https://www.rush.edu/patients-visitors/coronavirus-covid-19-information-and-resources
Swedish Hospital
Hours: 9:00am-5:00pm
Days of Operation: Monday - Saturday
Requirements: Must have a referral from a physician.
Website or COVID Hotline: Swedishhospital.org
U Chicago Medicine
Hours:
Days of Operation:
Requirements: Testing is available by appointment only.
Website or COVID Hotline:
Elgin, IL
AMITA Health Saint Joseph Hospital Elgin
Hours: 24 hours
Days of Operation: Daily
Requirements: AMITA patients should make appointment with primary care physician for telehealth evaluation.
Website or COVID Hotline: https://www.amitahealth.org/covid-19/
Elk Grove, IL
AMITA Health Alexian Brothers Medical Center Elk Grove Village
Hours: 24 hours
Days of Operation: Daily
Requirements: AMITA patients should make appointment with primary care physician for telehealth evaluation.
Website or COVID Hotline: https://www.amitahealth.org/covid-19/
Evanston, IL
AMITA Health Saint Francis Hospital Evanston
Hours: 24 hours
Days of Operation: Daily
Requirements: AMITA patients should make appointment with primary care physician for telehealth evaluation.
Website or COVID Hotline: https://www.amitahealth.org/covid-19/
Glendale Heights, IL
AMITA Health Adventist Medical Center GlenOaks
Hours: 24 hours
Days of Operation: Daily
Requirements: AMITA patients should make appointment with primary care physician for telehealth evaluation.
Website or COVID Hotline: https://www.amitahealth.org/covid-19/
Gurnee, IL
Northshore Immediate Care - Gurnee
Hours: 8:00am-8:00pm
Days of Operation: Monday - Thursday, Friday - Sunday
Requirements: Tests will only be given following a determination of need, based on symptoms of exposure, by a Northshore healthcare provider. Please call the triage number or sign up for an E-Visit at their website before visiting the testing site.
Website or COVID Hotline: www.northshore.org/immediatecare
Vista Physician Group
Hours: 8:00am - 4:00pm
Days of Operation: Monday/Wednesday/Friday
Requirements: Must be a Vista Physician Group patient. Capacity is limited.
Website or COVID Hotline: vistaphysiciangroup.com
Hinsdale, IL
AMITA Health Adventist Medical Center Hinsdale
Hours: 24 hours
Days of Operation: Daily
Requirements: AMITA patients should make appointment with primary care physician for telehealth evaluation.
Website or COVID Hotline: https://www.amitahealth.org/covid-19/
Hoffman Estates, IL
AMITA Health St. Alexius Medical Center Hoffman Estates
Hours: 24 hours
Days of Operation: Daily
Requirements: AMITA patients should make appointment with primary care physician for telehealth evaluation.
Website or COVID Hotline: https://www.amitahealth.org/covid-19/
Joliet, IL
AMITA Health Saint Joseph Medical Center Joliet
Hours: 24 hours
Days of Operation: Daily
Requirements: AMITA patients should make appointment with primary care physician for telehealth evaluation.
Website or COVID Hotline: https://www.amitahealth.org/covid-19/
Kankakee, IL
AMITA Health St. Mary's Hospital Kankakee
Hours: 24 hours
Days of Operation: Daily
Requirements: AMITA patients should make appointment with primary care physician for telehealth evaluation.
Website or COVID Hotline: https://www.amitahealth.org/covid-19/
La Grange, IL
AMITA Health Adventist Medical Center La Grange
Hours: 24 hours
Days of Operation: Daily
Requirements: AMITA patients should make appointment with primary care physician for telehealth evaluation.
Website or COVID Hotline: https://www.amitahealth.org/covid-19/
Lake Bluff, IL
Northshore Immediate Care - Lake Bluff
Hours: 9:00am-7:00pm, 8:00am-5:00pm
Days of Operation: Monday - Friday, Saturday - Sunday
Requirements: Tests will only be given following a determination of need, based on symptoms of exposure, by a Northshore healthcare provider. Please call the triage number or sign up for an E-Visit at their website before visiting the testing site.
Website or COVID Hotline: www.northshore.org/immediatecare
Lindenhurst, IL
Vista Health System
Hours: 24 hours
Days of Operation: Daily
Requirements: Walk-ins accepted. Medicial screening upon arrival to determine if test needed and if patient needs to be admitted.
Website or COVID Hotline: vistahealth.com
Marion, IL
Heartland Express Care
Hours: 8:30am - 9:00pm
Days of Operation: Daily
Requirements: Must call curbside and pass screening criteria.
Website or COVID Hotline: http://www.heartlandmedicalgroup.com/heartland-regional-medical-group/services1/express-care-4288.aspx
Markham, IL
IDPH Markam Drive-through
Hours: 8:00am - 4:00pm
Days of Operation: Daily
Requirements: No appointment required. Capacity is limited. Hours of operation subject to change on a daily basis, based on available equipment and throughput.
Website or COVID Hotline: 1-800-889-3931
Mattoon, IL
Sarah Bush Lincoln Respiratory Clinic
Hours: 7:00am - 7:00pm, 8:00am - 3:00pm
Days of Operation: Monday - Friday, Saturday - Sunday
Requirements: Must call in advance for screening over the phone. If further evaluation is needed, patients will be directed to clinic.
Website or COVID Hotline: https://www.sarahbush.org/
Niles, IL
Northshore Immediate Care - Niles
Hours: 9:00am-7:00pm, 8:00am-5:00pm
Days of Operation: Monday - Friday, Saturday - Sunday
Requirements: Tests will only be given following a determination of need, based on symptoms of exposure, by a Northshore healthcare provider. Please call the triage number or sign up for an E-Visit at their website before visiting the testing site.
Website or COVID Hotline: www.northshore.org/immediatecare
Oak Park, IL
Rush Oak Park
Hours:
Days of Operation:
Requirements: Testing is available by appointment only; call triage first.
Website or COVID Hotline: https://www.rush.edu/patients-visitors/coronavirus-covid-19-information-and-resources
Skokie, IL
Northshore Immediate Care - Old Orchard
Hours: 8:00am-9:00p, 8:00am-8:00pm
Days of Operation: Monday - Thursday, Friday - Sunday
Requirements: Tests will only be given following a determination of need, based on symptoms of exposure, by a Northshore healthcare provider. Please call the triage number or sign up for an E-Visit at their website before visiting the testing site.
Website or COVID Hotline: www.northshore.org/immediatecare
Northshore Immediate Care - Old Orchard Testing Tent
Hours: 8:30am-4:30pm
Days of Operation: Monday - Thursday, Friday - Sunday
Requirements: Tests will only be given following a determination of need, based on symptoms of exposure, by a Northshore healthcare provider. Please call the triage number or sign up for an E-Visit at their website before visiting the testing site.
Website or COVID Hotline: www.northshore.org/immediatecare
Waukegan, IL
Vista Health System
Hours: 24 hours
Days of Operation: Daily
Requirements: Walk-ins accepted. Medicial screening upon arrival to determine if test needed and if patient needs to be admitted.
Website or COVID Hotline: vistahealth.com----------------------------------------------
What more do you expect?
So far in Illinois, 1 percent of all people have been tested, according to the Chicago Tribune today.
You did notice that the list you provided - each one had a limit on who could go there - just like I said. If you are part of AMITA, great - I am not. The only 2 sites open near me are the one in Markham, which is an emissions testing site they converted to a test site - and as it says, it is limited by the number of tests available. The other is a site in my town to test antibodies, but it is for first responders first and costs $55. There is not widespread or unlimited testing for just anybody here. Notice many said 'if showing symptoms' -just like I said. Many of these are not in the Chicago area, and many are just hospitals.
Also, my son works for the electric utility. He is still working. His crew leader was showing signs, so they tested him - took 8 days to get the results - but luckily not covid.
[Edited on 4/19/2020 by Sang]
Fake News, the Democrats and their mouthpieces all claim that “Trump has failed to deliver” etc.
Not according to the Governors:Democrat Governors have said on live TV:
“Everything we have asked for from the Federal Government we have received”
- NY Governor Cuomo (D)
- CA Governor Newsom (D)
- WA Governor Inslee (D)
Must have been my imagination when I saw Hogan and DeWine say they didn't have enough testing. Glad you cleared that up for us.
Fake News, the Democrats and their mouthpieces all claim that “Trump has failed to deliver” etc.
Not according to the Governors:Democrat Governors have said on live TV:
“Everything we have asked for from the Federal Government we have received”
- NY Governor Cuomo (D)
- CA Governor Newsom (D)
- WA Governor Inslee (D)Must have been my imagination when I saw Hogan and DeWine say they didn't have enough testing. Glad you cleared that up for us.
The Governors of Maryland and Ohio have already said they do have the supplies to get the testing done but they do not have the resources (personnel) in their states to get it done.
It is helpful if you listen to their actual statements as opposed to the snippets from Fake News.
You are an idiot, I mean why do you even come here and talk nonsense? Where do you live, Mars? I live in Ohio. I have not heard of any personnel shortages in any facilities related to testing. They have talked about some labs having capacity that isn't getting used, which they want to work on directing tests to go to labs that have idle capacity to run the results. They have talked about components of the tests that are in limited supply, which Ohio is trying to make on their own. Never have I heard they need more "people" to administer or process tests.
Dewine today (Sunday):
“I could probably double – maybe even triple – testing in Ohio virtually overnight if the FDA would prioritize companies that are putting a slightly different formula together for the extraction reagent kit,” Governor DeWine said during the interview. “We have a worldwide shortage of some of the materials that go into this. We really need help. If anybody in the FDA is watching, this would really take our capacity up literally, Chuck, overnight.”
Our health director Friday:
we quickly learned that we were running out of all different components of the tests, some reagents, some cassettes.
Amy Acton: (38:38)
So we had to have a way to say if we have scarce resources, how do we best use them? So we have three tiers of testing, and that should be on our website. But it was those highest risk people, people with really preexisting health conditions, most often in a hospitalized setting.
Resources, testing components, ingredients, not people.
You contribute nothing factual or of importance to any discussion here.
Once again, mental midget Trump
Here's a nice little video with a wide assortment of "Mental Midgets" all in a leadership capacity, spouting off and just bragging to the media about their ignorance....
Enjoy!
Once again, mental midget Trump
Here's a nice little video with a wide assortment of "Mental Midgets" all in a leadership capacity, spouting off and just bragging to the media about their ignorance....
Enjoy!
I'm sure all those people could blame Trump somehow for why they were saying what they were. Trump must've fooled them, like Bush fooled them on WMD. What does that say then for those who allowed themselves to be fooled?
Again, in seriousness this just illustrates, even Dr Fauci underestimated the seriousness of this virus. He certainly should've been clued in early. For all the warnings that maybe been out there, these things can be difficult to get ahead of. The only countries that actually did are the Asian countries who had prior experience with SARS and Mers.
There is one extra special "mental midget". A Republican House member was on one of the shows back in February or maybe early March...you won't believe what he said. Well, some of you might. He said, paraphrase "we need to go about our life or the virus wins".
Anyway, I think the point has always been, at least my position is that our federal government should've started doing the things in February that ultimately started happening in mid March. There really was some wasted time and missed opportunity to properly prepare for what was coming. Hindsight is always 20-20.
Anyway, I think the point has always been, at least my position is that our federal government should've started doing the things in February that ultimately started happening in mid March. There really was some wasted time and missed opportunity to properly prepare for what was coming. Hindsight is always 20-20.
Taken and my reason for posting that video was that duly elected "leaders" who live in glass houses....
Plenty of blame to go around....
A report by Danielle Allen from the Harvard University's Edmond J.Safra Center on Ethics says we need 20 million tests.........per day!
Nobel laureate economist Paul Romer says we may need more than 30 million tests....per day!
All these people chirping about unrealistic testing requirements are reminding me of people fear mongered about unrealistic death counts.
20 or 30 million tests per day is not logistically possible.
The Harvard Center on Ethics and a Nobel Laureate seem to be socially distancing from reality.
So you're finally admitting that Trump lied when he said everyone who wants a test and get a test. Glad to see you join the real world.
