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theotherbrothers
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A friend told me there was a guy named alloak that posted here quite a bit. When it was suggested that Trump will lead his own followers to tragedy, he laughed and scoffed at the notion. I'd like to hear from him now. After the dozens of indictments from the Mueller investigation, after January 6th, and now yet again, more threats of violence to law enforcement. I wonder if he's still laughing. 

 
Posted : August 11, 2022 9:23 am
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Posted by: @theotherbrothers

A friend told me there was a guy named alloak that posted here quite a bit. When it was suggested that Trump will lead his own followers to tragedy, he laughed and scoffed at the notion. I'd like to hear from him now. After the dozens of indictments from the Mueller investigation, after January 6th, and now yet again, more threats of violence to law enforcement. I wonder if he's still laughing. 

I can't speak for alloak but Trump hardcore supporters will support him no matter what he does and most Republicans in Congress are scared to death of him. While they bad mouth him in private they support him in public as they are afraid they will lose his endorsement and get voted out of office.

Congress is no longer about doing what is in the best interest of the American people they represent but rather it is about staying in power no matter the cost.

Just look at the S-storm that was created by the FBI raid on Mar-a- Lago looking for documents Trump allegedly illegally took with him when he left the WH including supposedly classified material. Now imagine if a Democratic President had done this and the outrage and repercussions from the GOP.

Say what you want about Trump but he is the master of fake news and playing the martyr. Now imagine what will be left of our Democracy if the GOP takes back Congress and Trump wins the Presidency again.

Unless the Democrats are willing to take the gloves off and get down in the mud with the GOP and fight dirty over elections I fear our Democracy is finally doomed if the GOP and Trump takes power for another four years.

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Posted : August 11, 2022 9:41 am
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if it's the same person I'm thinking of it was alloak41 - he really vitalized the Heroes & Legends thread back in the day with great photos of sports greats

What is HYPOCRISY? Jill Biden's "tacos" reference to Mexicans in June - Jill Biden is a great looking lady for her age, but her predecesor and her husband would have been on one of Pelosi's impeachment trips for immediate removal from office b/c of "racial profiling" & her other crap, had Mrs Trump made the same comment verbatim

He had his turn, and Trump is too old to realistically regain the presidency, but I hope he does run - to watch his self-appointed enemies grease up their slingers, roil in slop & make idiots of themselves

 
Posted : August 11, 2022 12:09 pm
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if it's the same person I'm thinking of it was alloak41 - he really vitalized the Heroes & Legends thread back in the day with great photos of sports greats

What is HYPOCRISY? Jill Biden's "tacos" reference to Mexicans in June - Jill Biden is a great looking lady for her age, but her predecesor and her husband would have been on one of Pelosi's impeachment trips for immediate removal from office b/c of "racial profiling" & her other crap, had Mrs Trump made the same comment verbatim

He had his turn, and Trump is too old to realistically regain the presidency, but I hope he does run - to watch his self-appointed enemies grease up their slingers, roil in slop & make idiots of themselves

Please mate, let's not exaggerate what the Dems would have done if Melania had made an insensitive comment about Mexicans.

Considering all the racist comments made during his Presidency and other impeachable offenses you are nitpicking at best.

Your example is like comparing a shoplifter to a murderer. Both are crimes but one is obviously more serious than the other and deserves more serious punishment. And that is besides the fact Jill Biden is not the President so can't be impeached. 😉 

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Posted : August 11, 2022 3:49 pm
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"Let's not exaggerate what the Dems would've done"

with malice toward none - but you can't mean that

you see no difference in press coverage between the previous and current administrations???????????

Melania was called everything but pond slime when she attempted to introduce an anti-bullying bill one time - I'll look it up for verification, but it's flat-dishonest to say Jill would also have been dragged through the shitter -

It's not worth discussing - my fault for bringing it up

alloak is one of the many who bailed from the site

 

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Posted : August 11, 2022 4:25 pm
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The "taco" incident is all you got? Dr. Biden's comment pales in comparison to when Trump himself likened a Mexican holiday to Trump Tower Taco Bowls and "hispanics" in general. Dr. Biden actually apologized. Trump got roasted online and then got elected anyways, so the hypocrisy goes the other way on this one.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36215048

Hypocrisy is pleading the 5th after years of stating only guilty people plead the 5th. And tons of other stuff, of course.

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Posted : August 11, 2022 4:30 pm
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Posted by: @stephen

 

you see no difference in press coverage between the previous and current administrations???????????

Melania was called everything but pond slime when she attempted to introduce an anti-bullying bill one time - I'll look it up for verification, but it's flat-dishonest to say Jill would also have been dragged through the shitter -

It's not worth discussing - my fault for bringing it up

alloak is one of the many who bailed from the site

 

You mean the anti-bullying bill while her husband at that very same time was bullying and badmouthing a 16 year old who was advocating for more nations (like the US) to do more to stop climate change????  THAT anti-bullying bill? Was the bully in that case closely related to anyone proposing the anti-bullying bill?

Oh, and lest we not forget candidate Trump referring to all Mexicans as "rapists" as he ran for the highest office in the United States.

Quick quiz, if you were Mexican, would you be more offended by a reference to cuisine (which was apologized for) or being called a rapist (which wasn't apologized for)? Take your time, think it over and then get back to us......

"My friends say I'm ugly I got a masculine face." Tom Waits

 
Posted : August 11, 2022 5:19 pm
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you see no difference in press coverage between the previous and current administrations???????????

You can't be serious. Gimme a break. 

Melania was called everything but pond slime when she attempted to introduce an anti-bullying bill one time - I'll look it up for verification, but it's flat-dishonest to say Jill would also have been dragged through the shitter -

 Trump has convinced all his people to play victim over and over and over. "Press coverage isn't fair", "Melania was dragged but Jill wasn't". Character matters. 

 
Posted : August 12, 2022 12:22 am
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You mean the anti-bullying bill while her husband at that very same time was bullying and badmouthing a 16 year old who was advocating for more nations (like the US) to do more to stop climate change????  THAT anti-bullying bill? Was the bully in that case closely related to anyone proposing the anti-bullying bill?

Oh, and lest we not forget candidate Trump referring to all Mexicans as "rapists" as he ran for the highest office in the United States.

Quick quiz, if you were Mexican, would you be more offended by a reference to cuisine (which was apologized for) or being called a rapist (which wasn't apologized for)? Take your time, think it over and then get back to us......

 

This is when they all scatter and dodge. They've got nothing. No meat, no substance, no thought, no answers to questions, no nothing. Just empty screaming into the wind. 

 
Posted : August 12, 2022 12:26 am
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@theotherbrothers 

If I recall, alloak had some serious health issues the past couple years which may be why he hasn't been around. Just saying it might not be fair to call him out.

But there are a lot of Cult 45ers who are waiting to hear what they should believe this morning, what's the narrative going to be? As evidence in DC and now Cincinnati, the greatest threat to our republic isn't Antifa or socialists, it's radicalized conservatism under the spell of a grifter - I wish that was an overstatement.

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Posted : August 12, 2022 8:50 am
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@porkchopbob 

Cult45ers? Never heard that & if you made it up, genius.

The media has been castrated. No one believes them. Trump lies & spreads the word thru his followers through SM or any other means they use. I'm astounded by the amount of influence this barely literate con man has on average Americans. I don't believe for one second that elected officials march in lock step w/him for fear of losing their jobs - some of them were reasonable people, even people of integrity before P45 & they lost it overnight. They can live w/o being senators; they have other sources of income. I still believe there is a physical threat to them or their families if they don't go along. Trump has a guerilla army - like the guy at FBI in Cincinnati - who will act violently on his false assertions. That is scary.

We now know the missing docs are nuclear-related and kept in multiple places in Mar-a-Lago. They didn't get there w/o Trump knowing. My guess? He planned to sell or has sold them because he has no $$$. The DOJ has been proceeding at a pace since Spring through the high legal bars that are set to get a federal search warrant connecting evidence & a crime. They discovered the missing docs because the docs given to the Archives had missing pages. Nothing nefarious or improper about the DOJ to get agitated about.

As to the NY suit re TTO raising/lowering values of properties to get loans, it's a non-starter. Every developer does that & the banks turn a blind eye. It's not admirable, but not worth a prosecution beyond getting depositions from TTO employees.

 
Posted : August 12, 2022 12:26 pm
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@cyclone88 I can't claim authorship, heard it a few times over the years.

The infiltration into other politicians (and conservative media) is at a Manchurian Candidate level. They saw the populism, they hitched their wagon along for the ride. They saw "winning" not governance. Others tried to discuss issues rationally, but it all fell on deaf ears. Even when FOX News - a "news" network that is on record as advising the 45 Administration which seems like a huge breach of journalistic integrity - called the election for Biden, many Trump followers turned their back on their favorite new network.

If these documents are damning (I'm waiting for clarification), his allies and followers are dug in too deep. There's going to be a spin, Trump already laid seeds that the FBI planted whatever they removed.

It's just bananas that many of his followers have become the complete opposite of what the thought they were - sheeple that are a threat to the constitution and the republic in the name of patriotism that assaults law enforcement. That guy in Cincinnati loved Trump SO much, he was willing to die for him. Has there ever been a bigger con than that?

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Posted : August 12, 2022 12:53 pm
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@porkchopbob 

Thought you'd come up w/the phrase. It's great.

You're right. Never in a million years did I think DJT could have a cult following so big & so loyal that they'd not only go to prison for him but die for him. There's no politician in American history that comes close to that.

I doubt there's anything in the docs. If he "mistakenly" took them when being hustled out the WH door, not turning them over to the National Archives isn't a master crime. He - just like while he was in office - didn't follow regulations. No persecution. Think DOJ gave him a deadline to return, he ignored, so they went in & got them.

 
Posted : August 12, 2022 2:27 pm
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Here's his whole cult in a nutshell, refusing to hear the truth from one of Trump's own policy architects:

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1558106666788339718?s=20&t=aMBRUUBhQWK0Ha8Z0E1-hA

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Posted : August 12, 2022 4:10 pm
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When Andrew Cuomo was shown to be a bit "handsy", the 2 NY Senators( Schumer and Gillebrand), the Dem leader of the Senate(Schumer), the Dem leader in the House(Pelosi), The Dem President(Biden), and the 2 top hosts at MSNBC(Maddow and I'm not sure who) all called for Cuomo to resign. Now try to imagine what Trump could do to get the 2 Florida Senators(Rubio and Scott), the R leader in the Senate( McConnell), the R leader in the House(McCarthy), and the top 2 hosts at FOX to say he has to go. If you can't imagine what that could be but you could still see some way in which you could vote for him.........congratulations! You are a member of a cult of personality!

 

 
Posted : August 19, 2022 8:38 pm
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