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BoytonBrother
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The architect of the Bin Laden raid has this to say. Trump is the first and only President to inspire our former military heroes to reject their own security clearance in protest. Congrats!

"I would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well, so I can add my name to the list of men and women who have spoken up against your presidency. Few Americans have done more to protect this country than John. He is a man of unparalleled integrity, whose honesty and character have never been in question, except by those who don’t know him. Through your actions, you have embarrassed us in the eyes of our children, humiliated us on the world stage and, worst of all, divided us as a nation.”


 
Posted : August 16, 2018 2:18 pm
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We all know Trump loves having enemies. He makes enemies of John McCain, our foreign allies, NATO, LeBron James, the NFL, and John Brennan, and the list goes on. Russian Don took his anger & frustration out on Brennan not for some national security reason but for spite and to change the narrative from Omarosa. How many times have we seen Trump pull something crazy when the news cycle is not good for him - change the subject. Forbid Brennan for criticizing an incompetent and thin skinned Emperor Wanna Be. If anyone is and has been a patriot, it is Brennan; certainly not traitor Trump who is yet to criticize Putin and Russia for all the damage they have done to the world & especially the USA.

I wonder if others will follow McRaven. Here is a man that knows far more about the military than Trump could ever know. Remember when Trump, The Grand Wizard Of The Birther Movement said he knew more than the generals?

When will the pu$$y GOP Congressmen step up and say enough is enough of Donnie's shenanigans?


 
Posted : August 16, 2018 2:41 pm
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When will the pu$$y GOP Congressmen step up and say enough is enough of Donnie's shenanigans?

Maybe after they lose the house in November. Maybe never. It is scary to go up against the Fox News/Trump propaganda machine. Breitbart has learned the lesson that Trump's followers will turn on their former best friends in no more time than Trump can tweet on the throne in the middle of the night. Their souls have long since been sold.


 
Posted : August 16, 2018 4:17 pm
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John Brennan delighted in being a Trump bashing political pundit and make numerous false and outrageous claims about the current President. Calling a sitting President a traitor and many more unsubstantiated claims. Over and Over again. And he expected no ramifications?


 
Posted : August 16, 2018 4:28 pm
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John Brennan delighted in being a Trump bashing political pundit and make numerous false and outrageous claims about the current President. Calling a sitting President a traitor and many more unsubstantiated claims. Over and Over again. And he expected no ramifications?

How is calling the president a traitor an unsubstantiated claim? Seems it is well documented now. Did you not see the Helsinki press conference Trump had with Putin? He speaks out against freedom of speech and freedom of the press. Is their anything more American that our constitutional freedoms of freedom of speech and freedom of the press? Trump is a traitor and an embarrassment to our great nation.


 
Posted : August 16, 2018 5:00 pm
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Mueller needs to wrap up his fact finding case so that these Russia conspiracy statements can be finally put to rest.


 
Posted : August 16, 2018 6:25 pm
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That’s right Goober - you set decorated Republican vet Mueller straight, lol.


 
Posted : August 17, 2018 3:31 am
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John Brennan delighted in being a Trump bashing political pundit and make numerous false and outrageous claims about the current President.

If you object to this type of behavior, wait until you hear what Trump has tweeted about people. You are going to be enraged I bet.

Calling a sitting President a traitor and many more unsubstantiated claims. Over and Over again. And he expected no ramifications?

You can hate whoever you want and nobody will care, but this is ridiculous. You and everyone else knows he's compromised by Russia - he stood on stage with Putin and licked him clean. The question isn't whether he's compromised, it's a matter of some people caring about it, and some who don't mind it.


 
Posted : August 17, 2018 3:48 am
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Mueller needs to wrap up his fact finding case so that these Russia conspiracy statements can be finally put to rest.

Looks like Mueller is thorough and performing his due diligence. It would seem that is what someone with his background and with the task at hand would do. This is quite the contrast to Trump who is reactionary & impulsive. In spite of what former prosecutor turned PR operative, Rudy G. and parrots say, don't the American people deserve the right to the facts as opposed to people who claim conspiracy?

goob - Let's get real. For you to call this a conspiracy theory, show us your evidence to support the premise, otherwise you are doing nothing more than parroting lines fed to you attempting to not let this move to conclusion - one way or the other. Don't you want the truth and facts to be known as opposed to dogmatic assumptions swallowed? On the other hand it seems that you don't need the facts of a seasoned professional (Mueller) since you have made up your mind.


 
Posted : August 17, 2018 3:52 am
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I think Goober made his screen name OriginalGoober as a wink wink that he's here to be outrageous and get a reaction, hence being the original goober.


 
Posted : August 17, 2018 4:17 am
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I think Goober made his screen name OriginalGoober as a wink wink that he's here to be outrageous and get a reaction, hence being the original goober.

OMG - More goobers to follow? Second goober, third goober, etc. They would be the only ones to validate his points. 😛


 
Posted : August 17, 2018 5:08 am
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This guy will get tossed in the John McCain hero pile that the republicans now have. That is, it’s not what you did for your country, it’s that you don’t pledge your allegiance to Trump. They will rip him to pieces.


 
Posted : August 17, 2018 6:06 am
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It seems those who keep asking for the investigation to wrap up don't get that the reason that they don't hear anything is because Mueller puts together the best....he took down John Gotti and Enron....

From past experience they will run an investigation for as long as they think they can still and are still gathering evidence....back in 1975 I had a buddy selling pot...he got busted selling to a cop...not once but 20 times....they wanted lots of evidence so they could move up the ladder to where he was getting it from.

So with an investigating this level of corruption and crimes the time table will be much longer...The end game for the Trump supporter I'll never get....Trump is in a high speed chase and like most high speed chases it'll end in a crash and burn.


 
Posted : August 17, 2018 7:00 am
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I had a buddy selling pot...he got busted selling to a cop...not once but 20 times....they wanted lots of evidence so they could move up the ladder to where he was getting it from.
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That just sucks on it’s on.

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like most high speed chases it'll end in a crash
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Worked in local news long enough to see this is literally true.
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The plan is to tear the credibility of the investigation down and it seems to be working so far. Who knows.

[Edited on 8/17/2018 by sckeys]

[Edited on 8/17/2018 by sckeys]


 
Posted : August 17, 2018 8:46 am
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Mule and Goob, you both have often espoused the belief that it is "the left" that hates the US. Let's take a look at that. For years you both have been ejaculating adoration over a reality-TV star, someone who, like Giuliani, Limbaugh and Gingrich, has never spent a second in military service through amassing multiple deferments, yet trashes and demeans John McCain, Gold Star parents whose son they will never see again, John Brennan who was in the room when the most notorious terrorist of the post-WWII era was assassinated and is backed by the Navy Seal admiral who was instrumental in executing that raid….lifelong widely respected leaders of the intelligence and law-enforcemnt communities….destabilizes relationships with our most valuable allies, allies crucial to our national security and kisses Putin's ring…and you say "the left" hates the US. The stupidity of this is unfathomable


 
Posted : August 17, 2018 12:23 pm
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It's the Howard Stern affect. When Howard rose to fame in the 80s and 90s, people worshipped him because he wasn't afraid to say what everyone is really thinking. Howard capitalized on all the horny young men who desperately wanted to hear those conversations. Trump and Howard are friends. Trump took a page right out of Howard's playbook, and began saying what the far right has always wanted to say out loud, but too afraid to do it. That vindication that they finally felt when Trump began his rhetoric, brainwashed them into mindless sheep, to the point where they pledge their loyalty to Russia over an American with Democratic values.


 
Posted : August 17, 2018 12:40 pm
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Pressed by Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) whether he saw evidence that Trump officials colluded with the Kremlin,
Brennan said “I don’t know.”

So he has NO EVIDENCE of any wrongdoing but is talking about high crimes and misdemeanors so cavalierly about our great President Trump. Brennana was stripped because he was the first one with a high level of security clearance acting so unhinged! Very Bad for America!

SOURCE: https://nypost.com/2017/05/23/ex-cia-chief-warned-of-russian-contact-with-trump-campaign-officials/


 
Posted : August 17, 2018 12:44 pm
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Brennana was stripped because he was the first one with a high level of security clearance acting so unhinged!

The guy with the highest clearance acts unhinged every single day.


 
Posted : August 17, 2018 12:54 pm
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Brennana was stripped because he was the first one with a high level of security clearance acting so unhinged!

The guy with the highest clearance acts unhinged every single day.

And is not interested in intelligence briefings. Appears he also didn't brief his DNI, Dan Coates about his one on one with Trump's puppet master, Putin. And why would he - he has instinct, can read strong men in one minute, and knows more than military generals. These are all characteristics and attributes Trump possesses from his many years in the military and knowledge of intelligence and counter intelligence. He really needs no one to advise him on anything. Omnipotence is one of his greatest & must humble traits.


 
Posted : August 17, 2018 1:17 pm
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Pressed by Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) whether he saw evidence that Trump officials colluded with the Kremlin,
Brennan said “I don’t know.”

So he has NO EVIDENCE of any wrongdoing but is talking about high crimes and misdemeanors so cavalierly about our great President Trump. Brennana was stripped because he was the first one with a high level of security clearance acting so unhinged! Very Bad for America!

SOURCE: https://nypost.com/2017/05/23/ex-cia-chief-warned-of-russian-contact-with-trump-campaign-officials//blockquote >

You seem pretty hung up on Russia, as if that is the only thing Trump could have done wrong. I'd say Obstruction of Justice is what is going to take Trump down, if anything. All the firings of anybody he doesn't think is loyal to him and him only is an example of obstruction of justice.


 
Posted : August 17, 2018 1:21 pm
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Pressed by Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) whether he saw evidence that Trump officials colluded with the Kremlin,
Brennan said “I don’t know.”

So he has NO EVIDENCE of any wrongdoing but is talking about high crimes and misdemeanors so cavalierly about our great President Trump. Brennana was stripped because he was the first one with a high level of security clearance acting so unhinged! Very Bad for America!

SOURCE: https://nypost.com/2017/05/23/ex-cia-chief-warned-of-russian-contact-with-trump-campaign-officials//blockquote >

You seem pretty hung up on Russia, as if that is the only thing Trump could have done wrong. I'd say Obstruction of Justice is what is going to take Trump down, if anything. All the firings of anybody he doesn't think is loyal to him and him only is an example of obstruction of justice.

His daily tweets and his daily actions are more evidence of obstruction. He doesn't seem to have learned to have a good poker face from his casinos - the ones that the great businessman ran into bankruptcy.


 
Posted : August 17, 2018 1:26 pm
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. . . a reality-TV star, someone who, like Giuliani, Limbaugh and Gingrich, has never spent a second in military service through amassing multiple deferments, yet trashes and demeans John McCain, Gold Star parents whose son they will never see again, John Brennan who was in the room when the most notorious terrorist of the post-WWII era was assassinated and is backed by the Navy Seal admiral who was instrumental in executing that raid….lifelong widely respected leaders of the intelligence and law-enforcemnt communities….destabilizes relationships with our most valuable allies, allies crucial to our national security and kisses Putin's ring…and you say "the left" hates the US. The stupidity of this is unfathomable

Wow. That's a pretty strong cocktail. Man, we gotta pull back on the stick or we are not going to clear the ridge!


 
Posted : August 17, 2018 5:07 pm
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A day after 12 former senior intelligence officials signed a letter condemning President Trump for revoking the security clearance of former CIA director John Brennan, 60 lower-ranking former CIA officers signed an open letter on Friday also in opposition to Mr. Trump's decision.
"All of us believe it is critical to protect classified information from unauthorized disclosure. But we believe equally strongly that former government officials have the right to express their unclassified views on what they see as critical national security issues without fear of being punished for doing so. Our signatures below do not necessarily mean that we concur with the opinions expressed by former Director Brennan or the way in which he expressed them," it says. "What they do represent, however, is our firm belief that the country will be weakened if there is a political litmus test applied before seasoned experts are allowed to share their views."

Remember when this happened before? No? Siding with this guy is nothing short of desperate.


 
Posted : August 17, 2018 6:59 pm
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Pressed by Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) whether he saw evidence that Trump officials colluded with the Kremlin,
Brennan said “I don’t know.”

So he has NO EVIDENCE of any wrongdoing but is talking about high crimes and misdemeanors so cavalierly about our great President Trump. Brennana was stripped because he was the first one with a high level of security clearance acting so unhinged! Very Bad for America!

SOURCE: https://nypost.com/2017/05/23/ex-cia-chief-warned-of-russian-contact-with-trump-campaign-officials//blockquote >

Trey Gowdy…name sounds familiar…oh yeah, he was the dipsh!t that wasted millions of dollars and months on end coming up with nothing on Hillary Clinton and now is crying "witch hunt". Helluva source to back your position.


 
Posted : August 18, 2018 3:46 pm
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John Brennan delighted in being a Trump bashing political pundit and make numerous false and outrageous claims about the current President. Calling a sitting President a traitor and many more unsubstantiated claims. Over and Over again. And he expected no ramifications?

I think you meant Michael Flynn, correct? Your description sure sounds like the exact behavior he engaged in....But then Trump claims he's a great guy and a true patriot so we shall give him a pass. After all if dear leader spews it from his mouth it must be true...


 
Posted : August 18, 2018 4:12 pm
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"I would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well, so I can add my name to the list of men and women who have spoken up against your presidency. Few Americans have done more to protect this country than John. He is a man of unparalleled integrity, whose honesty and character have never been in question, except by those who don’t know him. Through your actions, you have embarrassed us in the eyes of our children, humiliated us on the world stage and, worst of all, divided us as a nation.”

Not to be taken lightly. This is some pretty strong rumbling. Something wicked this way comes.


 
Posted : August 18, 2018 8:41 pm
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"I would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well, so I can add my name to the list of men and women who have spoken up against your presidency. Few Americans have done more to protect this country than John. He is a man of unparalleled integrity, whose honesty and character have never been in question, except by those who don’t know him. Through your actions, you have embarrassed us in the eyes of our children, humiliated us on the world stage and, worst of all, divided us as a nation.”

Not to be taken lightly. This is some pretty strong rumbling. Something wicked this way comes.

Something wicked this way indeed comes.....The more Trump spews and lies and obstructs justice and works with the Russians the more the electorate becomes engaged.

As made clear by the limp spine Republican controlled Congress and the Supreme Court, the only way to rid ourselves of the American version of Caligula is to vote him out of the office in 2020 and shackle him slightly in the meantime by winning the House in 2018.

As I've said previous in another thread, perhaps that's how it should be. Americans for too long have been lazy, uniformed, and completely disengaged from the democratic process. The only redeeming quality i can think of about Donald Trump is that he has reminded some of us that we have a responsibility when it comes to our democracy. A great awakening is long overdue....


 
Posted : August 19, 2018 6:28 am
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John Brennan delighted in being a Trump bashing political pundit and make numerous false and outrageous claims about the current President. Calling a sitting President a traitor and many more unsubstantiated claims. Over and Over again. And he expected no ramifications?

I think you meant Michael Flynn, correct? Your description sure sounds like the exact behavior he engaged in....But then Trump claims he's a great guy and a true patriot so we shall give him a pass. After all if dear leader spews it from his mouth it must be true...

Ever notice how Donnie speaks extemporaneously when asked about those from his inner circle on trial or part of investigations? Like a simpleton in his responses Honest Don consistently states the same lines over & over. He says these guys are great people and are being treated poorly or unfairly. It's his go to line. He doesn't seem to understand that "great guys" can be guilty of crimes.

Not a problem - just wait until more is exposed and if other indictments arise - especially for other "great people" like his family members, he'll go on a pardon rampage greater than any of his tweet rampages.


 
Posted : August 19, 2018 7:28 am
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The good thing is that when this is over, republicans will spend decades answering for it. Think of the next time they try to play the “moral values” or the “fiscal responsibility” card with a liberal in office.


 
Posted : August 19, 2018 7:30 am
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The good thing is that when this is over, republicans will spend decades answering for it. Think of the next time they try to play the “moral values” or the “fiscal responsibility” card with a liberal in office.

Perhaps....But don't underestimate the ignorance of some voters or their capacity to be manipulated into believing whatever the holier than thou crowd beats into their head endlessly.

For example the 30% of the electorate that still supports Trump and many of the far right members in Congress vehemently believe he/they have their best interests at heart. This despite what he/they are doing right in front of their faces that is exactly the opposite. Sort of there's a sucker born every minute kind of thing...


 
Posted : August 19, 2018 8:37 am
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