The Allman Brothers Band
2020 Presidential B...
 
Notifications
Clear all

2020 Presidential Ballot

159 Posts
17 Users
0 Reactions
6,670 Views
adhill58
(@adhill58)
Posts: 473
Honorable Member
 

Primary elections have been around for about 100 years. Prior to that, nominees were chosen solely by delegates at conventions. They are much more democratic now. Late-voting states rarely have much input with or without a pandemic happening. The two parties’ primary systems are basically the same.

There really is no Left or Right about it. Not sure why this is something to rage about right now.


 
Posted : July 14, 2020 9:46 am
BIGV
 BIGV
(@bigv)
Posts: 4152
Famed Member
 

"Early primary voters"..Wrong. 16 States have either "postponed" their primaries or have rescheduled them to coincide with other Statewide elections, meaning that not everyone has been able to participate in the voting process..

Now tell us again how voters and not "leadership" decide this?

EXCATLY! Voters in the earliest primaries cast their ballots and Biden being ahead and campaigns being expensive, other candidates dropped out before voters in other states were able to cast their ballots. Most candidates dropped out prior to later primaries getting delayed. So, early primary voters, not the DNC. Capisce?

Did EVERYONE get to vote?...Did everyone get to CHOOSE Joe Biden?...Or is he the candidate by default?...Did people get a chance to WRITE-IN a Candidate?

NO they did not.

"before voters in other states were able to cast their ballots."

This was decided by COVID, Not the voting populace.

So NOW you think that the winner of an election should be the one who gets the most votes? Interesting

In a statewide primary election, where people are choosing a candidate to be the Representative of their party for office of the President?

Yes.


 
Posted : July 14, 2020 10:17 am
2112
 2112
(@2112)
Posts: 2464
Famed Member
 

"Early primary voters"..Wrong. 16 States have either "postponed" their primaries or have rescheduled them to coincide with other Statewide elections, meaning that not everyone has been able to participate in the voting process..

Now tell us again how voters and not "leadership" decide this?

EXCATLY! Voters in the earliest primaries cast their ballots and Biden being ahead and campaigns being expensive, other candidates dropped out before voters in other states were able to cast their ballots. Most candidates dropped out prior to later primaries getting delayed. So, early primary voters, not the DNC. Capisce?

Did EVERYONE get to vote?...Did everyone get to CHOOSE Joe Biden?...Or is he the candidate by default?...Did people get a chance to WRITE-IN a Candidate?

NO they did not.

"before voters in other states were able to cast their ballots."

This was decided by COVID, Not the voting populace.

So NOW you think that the winner of an election should be the one who gets the most votes? Interesting

In a statewide primary election, where people are choosing a candidate to be the Representative of their party for office of the President?

Yes.

Just not in the actual election for president - got it.


 
Posted : July 14, 2020 11:00 am
BIGV
 BIGV
(@bigv)
Posts: 4152
Famed Member
 

"Early primary voters"..Wrong. 16 States have either "postponed" their primaries or have rescheduled them to coincide with other Statewide elections, meaning that not everyone has been able to participate in the voting process..

Now tell us again how voters and not "leadership" decide this?

EXCATLY! Voters in the earliest primaries cast their ballots and Biden being ahead and campaigns being expensive, other candidates dropped out before voters in other states were able to cast their ballots. Most candidates dropped out prior to later primaries getting delayed. So, early primary voters, not the DNC. Capisce?

Did EVERYONE get to vote?...Did everyone get to CHOOSE Joe Biden?...Or is he the candidate by default?...Did people get a chance to WRITE-IN a Candidate?

NO they did not.

"before voters in other states were able to cast their ballots."

This was decided by COVID, Not the voting populace.

So NOW you think that the winner of an election should be the one who gets the most votes? Interesting

In a statewide primary election, where people are choosing a candidate to be the Representative of their party for office of the President?

Yes.

Just not in the actual election for president - got it.

The Electoral College assures that not only do people in "Fly over states" have a say in a National election but they also won't be governed by the masses in N.Y. and California.

I like it.


 
Posted : July 14, 2020 11:06 am
Bhawk
(@bhawk)
Posts: 3333
Famed Member
 

This idea that Biden is hiding at home because of some sort of cognitive decline is hilarious.

Why is Biden laying low, letting Trump be Trump?

Politics 101.

"When a man is self-destructing, let him."


 
Posted : July 14, 2020 11:50 am
porkchopbob
(@porkchopbob)
Posts: 4646
Illustrious Member
 

The Electoral College assures that not only do people in "Fly over states" have a say in a National election but they also won't be governed by the masses in N.Y. and California.

Can you explain why you believe NY and California would dominate a popular election today?

Texas and Florida both have larger populations than the state of NY. Of the top 20 most populous cities, 6 of them are in Texas. Wouldn't the more even dispersal of population density across the country guarantee candidates would have to travel to more places than just 4 or 5 swings states?


PorkchopBob Studio

 
Posted : July 14, 2020 12:14 pm
adhill58
(@adhill58)
Posts: 473
Honorable Member
 

Should each citizen’s vote have the same weight whether they live in “masses” or not? If Republicans did not need the E. C. to stay relevant, and it discounted their voters, they would hate it.


 
Posted : July 14, 2020 1:50 pm
2112
 2112
(@2112)
Posts: 2464
Famed Member
 

Should each citizen’s vote have the same weight whether they live in “masses” or not? If Republicans did not need the E. C. to stay relevant, and it discounted their voters, they would hate it.

It is important for Big V and the Republicans to decide who's vote matters more. Apparently your vote is supposed to matter more if you live in a rural area.


 
Posted : July 14, 2020 2:48 pm
MartinD28
(@martind28)
Posts: 2859
Famed Member
 

Should each citizen’s vote have the same weight whether they live in “masses” or not? If Republicans did not need the E. C. to stay relevant, and it discounted their voters, they would hate it.

It is important for Big V and the Republicans to decide who's vote matters more. Apparently your vote is supposed to matter more if you live in a rural area.

Wow...so pigs and cows are voting in these rural areas, but Trump insists that millions of illegals voted in his election. No wonder he lost the popular vote. More pigs & cows would offset the illegal vote - think about that.


 
Posted : July 14, 2020 3:03 pm
MartinD28
(@martind28)
Posts: 2859
Famed Member
 

Wow...so pigs and cows are voting in these rural areas,

Now now hold your horses there Big Thunder - let's keep it civil and polite. Yes many Redhats are morbidly obese and woefully ignorant, but they are men and women after all. Stooping to low gutter-French style insults like "pigs and cows" is dehumanizing and can only lead to more quarrels.

Ooops...sorry bro rabbit. Didn't meant to insult farm animals. 😛


 
Posted : July 14, 2020 4:45 pm
2112
 2112
(@2112)
Posts: 2464
Famed Member
 

Wow...so pigs and cows are voting in these rural areas,

Now now hold your horses there Big Thunder - let's keep it civil and polite. Yes many Redhats are morbidly obese and woefully ignorant, but they are men and women after all. Stooping to low gutter-French style insults like "pigs and cows" is dehumanizing and can only lead to more quarrels.

Ooops...sorry bro rabbit. Didn't meant to insult farm animals. 😛

Many of those rural areas don't even have farms. It's just land. So it's kind of like how the Constitution counted slaves as 3/5th of a person. In the Republicans' mind, empty land should count as an extra 3/5 more than a city dweller.

Now, that only counts when it is to the Republicans' advantage. Remember when Trump thought Romney won the popular vote but lost the EC to Obama? Yeah, Trump was calling for a revolution to abolish the EC then.


 
Posted : July 14, 2020 5:08 pm
porkchopbob
(@porkchopbob)
Posts: 4646
Illustrious Member
 

Many of those rural areas don't even have farms. It's just land. So it's kind of like how the Constitution counted slaves as 3/5th of a person. In the Republicans' mind, empty land should count as an extra 3/5 more than a city dweller.

Actually, establishing state voter delegates in 1787 for what would become the Electoral College was a way to keep southern slave states from too much voting power.


PorkchopBob Studio

 
Posted : July 15, 2020 5:33 am
gina
 gina
(@gina)
Posts: 4801
Member
 

Kanye put up $35,000 to get put on the ballot in Oklahoma. He is in the race for the White House.

He may create his own political party.


 
Posted : July 16, 2020 3:24 pm
Stephen
(@stephen)
Posts: 3875
Famed Member
 

What happened to the RNC thread
Seems 2-3 political threads got deleted a few minutes ago
Just as well 😉


 
Posted : July 16, 2020 3:39 pm
Jerry
(@jerry)
Posts: 1842
Noble Member
 

What happened to the RNC thread
Seems 2-3 political threads got deleted a few minutes ago
Just as well 😉

Good riddance to bad rubbish - not sure what the others were, but gina's ghastly BLM thread is gone, so that's an upgrade.

Well, I got the question up about why it was removed, but I've already got a post there.


 
Posted : July 16, 2020 5:33 pm
BIGV
 BIGV
(@bigv)
Posts: 4152
Famed Member
 

but gina's ghastly BLM thread is gone

Censorship lives!


 
Posted : July 16, 2020 5:59 pm
Jerry
(@jerry)
Posts: 1842
Noble Member
 

but gina's ghastly BLM thread is gone

Censorship lives!

No, not at all. You have zero proprietary interest in this medium.

This website is a publication. The chief editors are the webmasters. Anything we write is a submission to this publication. If the editor does not want our submissions printed, then our material must be published elsewhere. When an editor edits, it is not censorship, it is simply the exercising of his or her aesthetic prerogative.

One thing to keep in mind is our little conflagrations create a lot of search fodder - I would be concerned as a webmaster about some of the more loaded terms that come up , which could attract serious weird attention on search engines, either from whackjobs or even intelligence agencies - something to keep in mind when posting things like -"Say auf wedersehn to your Nazi balls" or starting an openly racist thread like that BLM thread.

This is first and foremost a commercial site to promote a music company - as such it isn't the greatest PR to have a blitzkrieg of hostile insanity greet the casual internet surfer looking for info on the Allman Brothers.

Well said. Now let's just post factual stuff, like Biden is a mumbler.


 
Posted : July 16, 2020 6:55 pm
Sang
 Sang
(@sang)
Posts: 5829
Illustrious Member
 

It's been really hot around here lately.... but I swear I just saw a snowflake........ Grin

[Edited on 7/17/2020 by Sang]


 
Posted : July 16, 2020 7:05 pm
BIGV
 BIGV
(@bigv)
Posts: 4152
Famed Member
 

This is first and foremost a commercial site to promote a music company - as such it isn't the greatest PR to have a blitzkrieg of hostile insanity greet the casual internet surfer looking for info on the Allman Brothers.

Then why have the "Whippin' Post" as a board/thread option?

Biden is a mumbler

Agreed


 
Posted : July 16, 2020 7:05 pm
Stephen
(@stephen)
Posts: 3875
Famed Member
 

Unsure why the RNC thread was deleted, it had just been started w/just a few benign entries
It is a music website, & since politics & music don’t mix.....


 
Posted : July 16, 2020 7:22 pm
adhill58
(@adhill58)
Posts: 473
Honorable Member
 

I sure hope it wasn't something I said.

It wouldn't surprise me though if it wasn't the stuff that was being posted by the new user "Cagey" that either he or someone else kept deleting. A couple of the ones yesterday were on the verge of something weird - I don't want to call it "threatening", but weird in a very hostile way.

For instance, his post about "hippies trying to run to gun owners for protection when African Americans turn on them" was followed up buy a post (that got deleted almost immediately) where he said he "just remembered I need to go buy some", which seemed to be referring to bullets.

Also, his "just as guilty as anybody" "defense" of the ABB using the Confederate flag 40 years ago and claiming that BLM is out to destroy a band that no longer exists and always had African American members was probably just a little more paranoid whacko stuff than they wanted on here.

I didn't see the stuff he posted the first night he was on here, but that was all deleted also. I wonder if someone other than him was deleting his egregious posts and then decided it was just easier to delete the whole threads.

That guy is a ruiner.


 
Posted : July 17, 2020 4:37 am
Jerry
(@jerry)
Posts: 1842
Noble Member
 

It's been really hot around here lately.... but I swear I just saw a snowflake........ Grin

[Edited on 7/17/2020 by Sang]

So you're the one that took the picture of the comet over the mountains?


 
Posted : July 17, 2020 6:25 am
Rusty
(@rusty)
Posts: 3295
Famed Member
Topic starter
 

Any suggestion of "culture canceling" (whatever) a form of music known collectively as "southern rock" is, "whacko". The idea to use the Confederate flag as a marketing tool was probably the idea of ... a marketing "tool". I always thought it was a stupid idea - most of the players eventually came around with that opinion, too.

Aside form the flag - I can think of very few song lyrics that even come close to tying any of the "southern rock" bands to anything resembling racism or "southern power" - or whatever. The late, Charlie Daniels might've come closest with, "The South's Gonna Do it Again" ... but I am really not familiar enough with the lyrics to say exactly what context he was speaking in. I always assumed that he was referring to record sales (as Skynyrd did with "Gimme Back My Bullets"). Dickey Bett's, "Southbound" really has nothing to do with anything more than a guy heading home - which happens to be in the southerly direction.

I personally don't think that the music of the Allman Brother's Band was ever intended for the ears of a bunch of rednecks. Congratulations to those types for finding it.


 
Posted : July 17, 2020 6:29 am
adhill58
(@adhill58)
Posts: 473
Honorable Member
 

I personally don't think that the music of the Allman Brother's Band was ever intended for the ears of a bunch of rednecks. Congratulations to those types for finding it.

X2! Great way of stating it.

Also, I was reminded this morning on NPR about when Right-wing "cancel culture" went after The Dixie Chicks 17 years ago. Same people crying about the liberal cancel culture nonstop today were probably burning their Dixie Chicks CDs back then and Nikes a few years back with Kapaernick.


 
Posted : July 17, 2020 6:50 am
Jerry
(@jerry)
Posts: 1842
Noble Member
 

Aside form the flag - I can think of very few song lyrics that even come close to tying any of the "southern rock" bands to anything resembling racism or "southern power" - or whatever. The late, Charlie Daniels might've come closest with, "The South's Gonna Do it Again" ... but I am really not familiar enough with the lyrics to say exactly what context he was speaking in. I always assumed that he was referring to record sales (as Skynyrd did with "Gimme Back My Bullets"). Dickey Bett's, "Southbound" really has nothing to do with anything more than a guy heading home - which happens to be in the southerly direction.

"The South's Gonna Do It Again"

Well the train to Grinder's Switch is runnin' right on time,
And them Tucker Boys are cookin down in Caroline
people down in Florida can't be still
When Lynyrd Skinnerd's picking down in Jacksonville
People down in Georgia come from near and far
To hear Richard Betts pickin' on that red guitar

So gather 'round, gather 'round chillin'
Get down, well just get down chillin'
Get loud, well you can be loud and be proud
well you can be proud, hear now
Be proud you're a rebel cause the South's gonna do it again, and again

Elvin bishop sittin' on a bale of hay
He ain't good lookin', but he shure an play
And there's ZZ Top and you can't forget
When old brother Willie's get soakin' wet
And all the good people down in Tennessee
Are diggin' bare foot Jerry and the C,D.B.

(Chorus repeats)

Written by Charles Edward Daniels

Just talking about how music from southern bands will help combat that blight on the radio stations called, oww, it's hard to type it, I'm getting nauseous, eeeerrrrppp, Disco. The ABB and other southern bands held back the bland stuff in the 60's called the British Invasion.


 
Posted : July 17, 2020 6:56 am
Jerry
(@jerry)
Posts: 1842
Noble Member
 

.I personally don't think that the music of the Allman Brother's Band was ever intended for the ears of a bunch of rednecks. Congratulations to those types for finding it.

The ABB worked hard on keeping ticket prices down, even played a lot of free gigs so that those who worked low paying jobs out in the sun, thus getting rednecks, could enjoy the music.
let's not use generalized insults on hard working people.
RLM Redneck Lives matter!!!


 
Posted : July 17, 2020 9:09 am
Sang
 Sang
(@sang)
Posts: 5829
Illustrious Member
 

It's been really hot around here lately.... but I swear I just saw a snowflake........ Grin

[Edited on 7/17/2020 by Sang]

So you're the one that took the picture of the comet over the mountains?

Sure wish I had...... and that wasn't directed at you.... Grin


 
Posted : July 17, 2020 12:26 pm
Jerry
(@jerry)
Posts: 1842
Noble Member
 

It's been really hot around here lately.... but I swear I just saw a snowflake........ Grin

[Edited on 7/17/2020 by Sang]

So you're the one that took the picture of the comet over the mountains?

Sure wish I had...... and that wasn't directed at you.... Grin

Didn't think it was, but I just couldn't resist.


 
Posted : July 17, 2020 1:00 pm
Bhawk
(@bhawk)
Posts: 3333
Famed Member
 

This is first and foremost a commercial site to promote a music company - as such it isn't the greatest PR to have a blitzkrieg of hostile insanity greet the casual internet surfer looking for info on the Allman Brothers.

Then why have the "Whippin' Post" as a board/thread option?

Biden is a mumbler

Agreed

"So, shower heads, you take a shower, the water doesn't come out. You wanna wash your hands, the water doesn't come out...dishwashers, you didn't have any water...in most places of the country, water is not a problem. They don't know what to do with it, it's called rain."

- President Donald Trump, July 16, 2020

Yeah, I'm still going with the mumbler.


 
Posted : July 17, 2020 1:37 pm
Jerry
(@jerry)
Posts: 1842
Noble Member
 

This is first and foremost a commercial site to promote a music company - as such it isn't the greatest PR to have a blitzkrieg of hostile insanity greet the casual internet surfer looking for info on the Allman Brothers.

Then why have the "Whippin' Post" as a board/thread option?

Biden is a mumbler

Agreed

Your choice.
"So, shower heads, you take a shower, the water doesn't come out. You wanna wash your hands, the water doesn't come out...dishwashers, you didn't have any water...in most places of the country, water is not a problem. They don't know what to do with it, it's called rain."

- President Donald Trump, July 16, 2020

Yeah, I'm still going with the mumbler.


 
Posted : July 17, 2020 5:41 pm
Page 3 / 6
Share: