^ Whats a goya product?
Goya makes Latino food products like canned beans, tortillas, spices, etc. Their CEO is pro-Trump and the MAGA crowd is doing a reverse boycott and buying foods they never heard of.
^ Ah so, thx for clarifying. I recall the logo now white letters on a red field I think. Didn't realize it was Hispanic however - here in whitebread Oregon the Hispanics have their own stores and subculture.
So the Redhats eating lots of frijoles now I take it? At least they will be farting out the right end for a change!
A former band-mate of mine is a MAGA "Democrats hate America" dude and he's been posting how much he loves beans this week. Goya has always been on the supermarket shelves where I've lived, but it's kind of entertaining watching the MAGA crowd discover exotic canned Frijoles like it's dragon fruit or something.
^ Ah so, thx for clarifying. I recall the logo now white letters on a red field I think. Didn't realize it was Hispanic however - here in whitebread Oregon the Hispanics have their own stores and subculture.
So the Redhats eating lots of frijoles now I take it? At least they will be farting out the right end for a change!
A former band-mate of mine is a MAGA "Democrats hate America" dude and he's been posting how much he loves beans this week. Goya has always been on the supermarket shelves where I've lived, but it's kind of entertaining watching the MAGA crowd discover exotic canned Frijoles like it's dragon fruit or something.
Stay tuned - next thing Russian Don will tell us is that Goya products can make Covid disappear. Guess the Frijoles will replace Lysol as a miracle cure.
I doubt there will be any Presidential debates this election year.
I hope there aren't any.
Oh man, I could not hope more for the comedy show that Joe Biden speaking "live" could provide...
The Democrats have got to be out of their minds for thinking this man can lead anyone or anything. A complete well thought out sentence is a minor miracle....
I doubt there will be any Presidential debates this election year.
I hope there aren't any.
Oh man, I could not hope more for the comedy show that Joe Biden speaking "live" could provide...
The Democrats have got to be out of their minds for thinking this man can lead anyone or anything. A complete well thought out sentence is a minor miracle....
Literally, "I know you are, but what am I?". Trump just aced that cognitive test, right? He's never failed at anything, right?
I doubt there will be any Presidential debates this election year.
I hope there aren't any.
Oh man, I could not hope more for the comedy show that Joe Biden speaking "live" could provide...
The Democrats have got to be out of their minds for thinking this man can lead anyone or anything. A complete well thought out sentence is a minor miracle....
Literally, "I know you are, but what am I?". Trump just aced that cognitive test, right? He's never failed at anything, right?
Literally, your defense of Joe Biden is the criticism of President Trump?
The ultimate in "Neener, neener"......Joe Biden's task is to prove he can do the job BETTER and your vote says you believe he can. Try defending your candidate for once instead of finding fault in the other.
I challenge you to do that based on what Joe attempts to bring to the table in his current mental state.
I'll wager you stay on your current tack...Your defense of Joe is based solely on your perception of the standing President's weaknesses.
I don't ever listen to speeches - but I had to see for myself this Democrat clown Biden who is "senile" and "can't string a sentence together". As jaded on politicians as I am, I pretty much believed the folks here. Held my nose and checked out Biden's July 9 speech in Pennsylvania, and found out he is an excellent orator, and his ideas are sound, even inspiring. He didn't drop the ball once.
He would do just fine in a debate.
Bring it on
I doubt there will be any Presidential debates this election year.
I hope there aren't any.
Oh man, I could not hope more for the comedy show that Joe Biden speaking "live" could provide...
The Democrats have got to be out of their minds for thinking this man can lead anyone or anything. A complete well thought out sentence is a minor miracle....
Literally, "I know you are, but what am I?". Trump just aced that cognitive test, right? He's never failed at anything, right?
Literally, your defense of Joe Biden is the criticism of President Trump?
The ultimate in "Neener, neener"......Joe Biden's task is to prove he can do the job BETTER and your vote says you believe he can. Try defending your candidate for once instead of finding fault in the other.
I challenge you to do that based on what Joe attempts to bring to the table in his current mental state.
I'll wager you stay on your current tack...Your defense of Joe is based solely on your perception of the standing President's weaknesses.
No, it is literally not my defense of Biden. I am pointing out that his detractors are using arguments that apply more to Trump’s deficiencies than his.
Biden understands American civics. He has authored legislation. Trump’s attempts at policy get shot down by conservative justices for being incomplete or incompetent.
Biden has been a successful senator and Vice President over the course of decades. Trump is a failed casino operator and a failed President.
For one, I don’t know of Biden saying that a virus that has killed over 130,000 Americans will go away like a miracle.
Biden also realizes that the international relationships that have kept the USA in the position it has been in for the past 70 years are not a ripoff.
I don’t run the Democratic primary, and Biden was not my first choice, but we are at a place where not being Trump is the only real choice.
Joe Biden knows how to do the job, Trump never even bothered learning.
People are free to hate Biden and Obama as much as they want, but defending Trump as the appropriate correction is beyond reckless and requires a cognitive dissonance that is beyond imagination.
People are free to hate Biden and Obama as much as they want
I do not "hate" Joe Biden. I do however feel that if he is the best the Democratic leadership can present, well, say no more. I do not Hate President Obama either, quite the contrary, I have nothing but respect for this gentleman, dignified speaker and leader. Joe Biden is not even remotely close to being anywhere near the same type of man President Obama is.....
If Trent Lott (a conservative with comparable experience to Biden) had won the Democratic primary this year, I would support him against Trump. He would at least know how to do the job.
Hell, I am almost to the point where I would support Mike Pence over Trump, at least he knows how the American government works.
By the way, I live in Indiana and hate Mike Pence and everything he believes in and stands for.
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If Trent Lott (a conservative with comparable experience to Biden) had won the Democratic primary this year, I would support him against Trump. He would at least know how to do the job.
Hell, I am almost to the point where I would support Mike Pence over Trump, at least he knows how the American government works.
By the way, i live in Indiana and hate Mike Pence and everything he believes in and stands for.
Pence's best skill is thanking Trump for "your great leadership" at just about every moment Pence is at the podium. I doubt we'd find many detractors from agreeing with Pence? The 33% percent who agree with Trump's handling of Covid would certainly agree.
I don't ever listen to speeches - but I had to see for myself this Democrat clown Biden who is "senile" and "can't string a sentence together". As jaded on politicians as I am, I pretty much believed the folks here. Held my nose and checked out Biden's July 9 speech in Pennsylvania, and found out he is an excellent orator, and his ideas are sound, even inspiring. He didn't drop the ball once. He would do just fine in a debate.
Congrats on listening to a speech. I rarely do, but I've seen enough of Biden to know he is smart, experienced, well-versed in how government works, can think & speak strategically & understands the importance of allies and coalitions of nations.
What isn't often said about Biden (perhaps because it's more fun to ridicule) is that the man has had a stutter since childhood. He rarely talks about it, but in an explanation he said he's had years of training and has learned - particularly when making a speech - to have mid-sentence breaks in order to speak an entire phrase. He's well aware that makes him look like he's searching for a word, but he's really only pausing long enough to speak the next short phrase.
Led by non-scientific, non-empathetic Trump, opposition supporters are spreading the misinformation that Biden's intellect is failing. Wrong. Look at Biden's speeches from when he was 30 years younger & you'll see the same pattern - speaking to prevent stuttering that has nothing to do w/mental capacity.
It's a mistake for Biden, the Democrats, & the media to let these accusations go unanswered. When a TV guest starts to speak/laugh about Biden's cognitive decline, the interviewer should raise the issue of his pattern of speaking w/o stuttering that's lasted a lifetime. The man isn't cognitively impaired; he speaks to avoid his stutter.
Biden would NOT fare well in debates. He's thoughtful, deliberate, & polite. Trump is a bombastic braggart who enjoys being cruel. He's incapable of a debate that would enlighten any voters.
I do however feel that if he is the best the Democratic leadership can present, well, say no more.
A little civics lesson for you - early Primary voters selected Biden.
Literally, your defense of Joe Biden is the criticism of President Trump?
The ultimate in "Neener, neener"......Joe Biden's task is to prove he can do the job BETTER and your vote says you believe he can. Try defending your candidate for once instead of finding fault in the other.
I challenge you to do that based on what Joe attempts to bring to the table in his current mental state.
I'll wager you stay on your current tack...Your defense of Joe is based solely on your perception of the standing President's weaknesses.
You're actually putting the cart before the horse, you must have a short memory. Criticisms of Trump's opponents have been Trump's own well-documented weaknesses flipped - crooked, creepy, poor orator, etc. These all apply to Trump ten fold, but you and your MAGA crowd flip them as a defense. Trump's bat-sht crazy speeches have been cannon fodder for years.
The whole discussion of Biden's supposed disadvantage in a debate is plain dumb. The premise of which is that because Trump is more willing to be shameless TV smart-ass in a venue where you only have to stay on topic for 90 seconds at a time, Trump will "wipe the floor" with Biden. Is this really an indicator of who should be making decisions that have true bearing on the lives of millions of people?
"He got my vote as soon as he said Carly Fiorina was ugly and told Marco Rubio about his wang." - Brilliant!
The whole discussion of Biden's supposed disadvantage in a debate is plain dumb. The premise of which is that because Trump is more willing to be shameless TV smart-ass in a venue where you only have to stay on topic for 90 seconds at a time, Trump will "wipe the floor" with Biden. Is this really an indicator of who should be making decisions that have true bearing on the lives of millions of people?
100%. Debates are relics. They don't belong in a 24/7 media environment when there's nothing we don't know about the candidates. The question is how to get rid of them.
I do however feel that if he is the best the Democratic leadership can present, well, say no more.
A little civics lesson for you - early Primary voters selected Biden.
Biden gets the Democratic nod pretty much based on name recognition and the fact that the primaries were decided before many voters (including this one) ever had a freakin' say. Fix this system ASAP!
Name recognition: you roll into a small town and you're hungry. Several "mom and pop" cafes, but you pull into the Golden Arches because you KNOW what they serve. Any of the "mom and pop"s probably have better and more nutritious food, but you'd never know because they're not advertised on big media.
I honestly believe that Joe got the votes before people had the chance to see him in his current condition. There were some good candidates in that field of Democrats who were shot down before their planes left the hangars.
I hope that the Democrats haven't succeeded doing what they did in 2016 - finding the ONLY candidate who can lose to Donald Trump.
The whole discussion of Biden's supposed disadvantage in a debate is plain dumb. The premise of which is that because Trump is more willing to be shameless TV smart-ass in a venue where you only have to stay on topic for 90 seconds at a time, Trump will "wipe the floor" with Biden. Is this really an indicator of who should be making decisions that have true bearing on the lives of millions of people?
100%. Debates are relics. They don't belong in a 24/7 media environment when there's nothing we don't know about the candidates. The question is how to get rid of them.
I've said it before: the debates are the closest thing we've got to job interviews for these guys. I don't worry that much about Joe because Trump will very likely have his own melt-down during one of these events.
100%. Debates are relics. They don't belong in a 24/7 media environment when there's nothing we don't know about the candidates. The question is how to get rid of them.
They are theater, and really weren't a thing until the TV age. Kennedy-Nixon were the first and the next debates weren't for another 16 years.
Biden gets the Democratic nod pretty much based on name recognition and the fact that the primaries were decided before many voters (including this one) ever had a freakin' say. Fix this system ASAP!
Agree. It becomes a popularity contest since the majority of Senators and Reps aren't known outside of their state. Because campaigns are expensive, candidates drop out before half of the states have voted in the primary. The primaries should all be held on the same day, later in the year.
They are theater, and really weren't a thing until the TV age.
They're not even theatre anymore. JFK/Nixon was a novelty. Now, it seems like we've been having debates for 18 months already (watching the primaries to me is a waste of time - we'll never see 1/2 those people again).
I don't consider them job interviews because Trump blabs every day & won't answer a direct question & Biden was VP for 8 years. What else do we need to know? I truly think anything either one of them says is complete fantasy since we're headed backward w/Covid19. CNN headline this morning "AMERICA SHUTS DOWN AGAIN."
I do however feel that if he is the best the Democratic leadership can present, well, say no more.
A little civics lesson for you - early Primary voters selected Biden.
Biden gets the Democratic nod pretty much based on name recognition and the fact that the primaries were decided before many voters (including this one) ever had a freakin' say. Fix this system ASAP!
Name recognition: you roll into a small town and you're hungry. Several "mom and pop" cafes, but you pull into the Golden Arches because you KNOW what they serve. Any of the "mom and pop"s probably have better and more nutritious food, but you'd never know because they're not advertised on big media.
I honestly believe that Joe got the votes before people had the chance to see him in his current condition. There were some good candidates in that field of Democrats who were shot down before their planes left the hangars.
I hope that the Democrats haven't succeeded doing what they did in 2016 - finding the ONLY candidate who can lose to Donald Trump.
The point is Joe won the nomination given the way the process currently exists. It is what it is, and until the process is tweaked, we accept the results. I think Joe's a reasonably good candidate and hopefully will defeat the traitor that sits in the WH. I also think Bernie or several of the other candidates would also defeat Trump, and I would have voted for all of them. We hitch our horse to someone who knows gov't, won't ABUSE his authority, puts America ahead of himself and ahead of Putin, does not mock the disabled, is not a racist, follows scientific experts, etc., and we hope for the best. The important thing is to vote.
I do however feel that if he is the best the Democratic leadership can present, well, say no more.
A little civics lesson for you - early Primary voters selected Biden.
And how many states and what % of voters were able to participate in this process?
I do however feel that if he is the best the Democratic leadership can present, well, say no more.
A little civics lesson for you - early Primary voters selected Biden.
And how many states and what % of voters were able to participate in this process?
Was "earlier primary voters" not clear enough for you? It was still decided by voters, not "leadership", as you believe for some reason.
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I do however feel that if he is the best the Democratic leadership can present, well, say no more.
A little civics lesson for you - early Primary voters selected Biden.
And how many states and what % of voters were able to participate in this process?
Was "earlier primary voters" not clear enough for you? It was still decided by voters, not "leadership", as you believe for some reason.
"Early primary voters"..Wrong. 16 States have either "postponed" their primaries or have rescheduled them to coincide with other Statewide elections, meaning that not everyone has been able to participate in the voting process..
Now tell us again how voters and not "leadership" decide this?
"Early primary voters"..Wrong. 16 States have either "postponed" their primaries or have rescheduled them to coincide with other Statewide elections, meaning that not everyone has been able to participate in the voting process..
Now tell us again how voters and not "leadership" decide this?
EXCATLY! Voters in the earliest primaries cast their ballots and Biden being ahead and campaigns being expensive, other candidates dropped out before voters in other states were able to cast their ballots. Most candidates dropped out prior to later primaries getting delayed. So, early primary voters, not the DNC. Capisce?
"Early primary voters"..Wrong. 16 States have either "postponed" their primaries or have rescheduled them to coincide with other Statewide elections, meaning that not everyone has been able to participate in the voting process..
Now tell us again how voters and not "leadership" decide this?
EXCATLY! Voters in the earliest primaries cast their ballots and Biden being ahead and campaigns being expensive, other candidates dropped out before voters in other states were able to cast their ballots. Most candidates dropped out prior to later primaries getting delayed. So, early primary voters, not the DNC. Capisce?
^ It doesn't get more factual / black & white than this. Some people are just always looking for an argument regardless of facts.
"Early primary voters"..Wrong. 16 States have either "postponed" their primaries or have rescheduled them to coincide with other Statewide elections, meaning that not everyone has been able to participate in the voting process..
Now tell us again how voters and not "leadership" decide this?
EXCATLY! Voters in the earliest primaries cast their ballots and Biden being ahead and campaigns being expensive, other candidates dropped out before voters in other states were able to cast their ballots. Most candidates dropped out prior to later primaries getting delayed. So, early primary voters, not the DNC. Capisce?
Did EVERYONE get to vote?...Did everyone get to CHOOSE Joe Biden?...Or is he the candidate by default?...Did people get a chance to WRITE-IN a Candidate?
NO they did not.
"before voters in other states were able to cast their ballots."
This was decided by COVID, Not the voting populace.
Did EVERYONE get to vote?...Did everyone get to CHOOSE Joe Biden?...Or is he the candidate by default?...Did people get a chance to WRITE-IN a Candidate?
As I clearly just told you. That does not mean "leadership" made the decision, Some voters did.
"before voters in other states were able to cast their ballots."
This was decided by COVID, Not the voting populace.
False. Most candidates had dropped out by the first week of March, making Biden the presumptive nominee. At that time 25 primaries had taken place. No primaries had been delayed at that time.
Sanders dropped out in early April, the only March primaries that had been delayed were NY, Kentucky, and Louisiana. 30 primaries had taken place by the time Sanders dropped out, and Biden had a comfortable lead.
"Early primary voters"..Wrong. 16 States have either "postponed" their primaries or have rescheduled them to coincide with other Statewide elections, meaning that not everyone has been able to participate in the voting process..
Now tell us again how voters and not "leadership" decide this?
EXCATLY! Voters in the earliest primaries cast their ballots and Biden being ahead and campaigns being expensive, other candidates dropped out before voters in other states were able to cast their ballots. Most candidates dropped out prior to later primaries getting delayed. So, early primary voters, not the DNC. Capisce?
Did EVERYONE get to vote?...Did everyone get to CHOOSE Joe Biden?...Or is he the candidate by default?...Did people get a chance to WRITE-IN a Candidate?
NO they did not.
"before voters in other states were able to cast their ballots."
This was decided by COVID, Not the voting populace.
So NOW you think that the winner of an election should be the one who gets the most votes? Interesting
