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DarylM
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I mean, really, have you seen the latest print issue? They've wasted over twelve pages
on - get this - the Allmans' final show at the Beacon, obits on Jack Bruce and Paul Revere,
a Bob Seger interview and, worst of all, a cover story on a bunch of lousy songs Bob Dylan
recorded over a hundred years ago in a pink house in upstate New York with a disreputable
group of unwashed Canadian hillbillies. Good Lord, what a waste of paper.....tell me about
Ariana Grande, Pharrell, Selena and the Beebs - who cares about those old people?!


 
Posted : November 20, 2014 1:24 pm
Rusty
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Sounds to me like they might've finally gotten back on track. I've been using RS for parakeet cage liner, fish wrap and double-ply substitute for the last 10 years or so.


 
Posted : November 20, 2014 1:29 pm
Brock
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I got a free subscription w/ my Springsteen ticket earlier this yr. Not sure if I will renew, but I've enjoyed it more than I expected I would.


 
Posted : November 20, 2014 3:39 pm
robslob
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I mean, really, have you seen the latest print issue? They've wasted over twelve pages
on - get this - the Allmans' final show at the Beacon, obits on Jack Bruce and Paul Revere,
a Bob Seger interview and, worst of all, a cover story on a bunch of lousy songs Bob Dylan
recorded over a hundred years ago in a pink house in upstate New York with a disreputable
group of unwashed Canadian hillbillies. Good Lord, what a waste of paper.....tell me about
Ariana Grande, Pharrell, Selena and the Beebs - who cares about those old people?!

I appreciate your humor and it's good to see someone giving a positive review here. I think it's a great magazine, but yeah, I noticed, too, that this issue was particularly good. And you didn't even mention Matt Taibbi's amazing expose of how Chase got away with murder after the 2007 financial collapse. I posted that article in Whipping Post recently if anyone cares to read it. Look for JP Morgan Chase in the title.


 
Posted : November 20, 2014 4:06 pm
larzv
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one of the most important bands in the history of modern bands calls it quits after 45 years and they give them half a page?????? not enough old people left. different demographic now. the article was obligatory, not from the soul. the allman brothers band played out 6 shows from the soul. rolling stone reports from the pockets. Rolling SOUL LESS!


 
Posted : November 20, 2014 4:24 pm
kevinumberger
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I got a free subscription w/ my Springsteen ticket earlier this yr. Not sure if I will renew, but I've enjoyed it more than I expected I would.

Ya sure it was free?

Cause it might have been embedded in the fees if you didn't check a certain box off in the order....


 
Posted : November 20, 2014 7:27 pm
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I mean, really, have you seen the latest print issue? They've wasted over twelve pages
on - get this - the Allmans' final show at the Beacon, obits on Jack Bruce and Paul Revere,
a Bob Seger interview and, worst of all, a cover story on a bunch of lousy songs Bob Dylan
recorded over a hundred years ago in a pink house in upstate New York with a disreputable
group of unwashed Canadian hillbillies. Good Lord, what a waste of paper.....tell me about
Ariana Grande, Pharrell, Selena and the Beebs - who cares about those old people?!

I subscribed to RS back in the mid to late 70s, about my only genuine source for info about the bands I liked. As me if I remember how much I ignored and disliked the articles about bands from the 50's back then.....Every generation has music it feels changed the scene, face it, we're gettin' old and the stuff we listen to does not appeal much to today's buyers.
Cool


 
Posted : November 20, 2014 7:56 pm
robslob
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one of the most important bands in the history of modern bands calls it quits after 45 years and they give them half a page??????

You're either blind or too dumb to turn the page. It was a full two pages, including a picture on the first one that took up half the page. And the reviewer, David Fricke, was very knowledgeable and complimentary about the band. But some people will go to ANY lengths to criticize RS. Why, I have yet to understand.


 
Posted : November 20, 2014 8:01 pm
les_paul_sunburst
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I mean, really, have you seen the latest print issue? They've wasted over twelve pages
on - get this - the Allmans' final show at the Beacon, obits on Jack Bruce and Paul Revere,
a Bob Seger interview and, worst of all, a cover story on a bunch of lousy songs Bob Dylan
recorded over a hundred years ago in a pink house in upstate New York with a disreputable
group of unwashed Canadian hillbillies. Good Lord, what a waste of paper.....tell me about
Ariana Grande, Pharrell, Selena and the Beebs - who cares about those old people?!

I subscribed to RS back in the mid to late 70s, about my only genuine source for info about the bands I liked. As me if I remember how much I ignored and disliked the articles about bands from the 50's back then.....Every generation has music it feels changed the scene, face it, we're gettin' old and the stuff we listen to does not appeal much to today's buyers.
Cool

That is the sad fact . And that isn't going to change. We are no longer their primary demographic.

Nevertheless, I have been subscribing for the past few years and with a $19.00 a year renewal rate, I still found the magazine worth my time. This year, for the first time, the rate went up to $29.00 and so far, I've balked at renewing.

I may just start reading it at the library as I am becoming more and more annoyed at the clutter that keeping all the back issues is creating in my life.

I agree that David Fricke is a great reviewer though.


 
Posted : November 21, 2014 1:37 am
larzv
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i'll go with blind.


 
Posted : November 21, 2014 3:29 am
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I let my long-time subscription die several years ago when RS seemed to have become the Lady Gaga Monthly. The last several issues were just heavily laden with stories about her. When my final issue arrived, I made and won a bet with my wife: "I'll bet there's a picture of Lady Gaga within the first 10 pages", I wagered. I won easily - she was on page 3 - and about 12 more times throughout the issue.

Glad to see they had the decency and respect to honor the Allman Brother's Band at their swan song.


 
Posted : November 21, 2014 4:23 am
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Rolling Stone gave me a free subscription and I wrote RETURN TO SENDER on each issue.


 
Posted : November 21, 2014 6:01 am
larzv
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I'm sorry you don't think i am as smart as you robslob, I just expected and wanted more for our beloved allman brothers band. I'd rather go blind.


 
Posted : November 21, 2014 8:32 am
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DarylM is right that the last print issue was pretty darn good. Seeing that picture from the Beacon made dropping a deuce that much more enjoyable.


 
Posted : November 21, 2014 8:37 am
fanfrom-71
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You're either blind or too dumb to turn the page.

wow...


 
Posted : November 21, 2014 9:28 am
robslob
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quote:
You're either blind or too dumb to turn the page.

wow...

I'm sorry you don't think i am as smart as you robslob, I just expected and wanted more for our beloved allman brothers band. I'd rather go blind.

When someone tells flat out LIES in order to support his "beloved allman brothers band", he (she?) deserves exactly the kind of response I gave. larzv said, "one of the most important bands in the history of modern bands calls it quits after 45 years and they give them half a page??????"

The story was a full 2 pages long with 1/2 of the first page devoted to a photograph from the final night @ The Beacon. I'm a subscriber and the issue is right here right next to my computer. Why does someone need to lie in order to criticize a magazine such as Rolling Stone? THAT my friends is the six million dollar question.

[Edited on 11/21/2014 by robslob]


 
Posted : November 21, 2014 10:22 am
scottdaugherty
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quote:
You're either blind or too dumb to turn the page.

wow...

I'm sorry you don't think i am as smart as you robslob, I just expected and wanted more for our beloved allman brothers band. I'd rather go blind.

When someone tells flat out LIES in order to support his "beloved allman brothers band", he (she?) deserves exactly the kind of response I gave.

Really? A little aggressive are we? Civil discourse at it's best.


 
Posted : November 21, 2014 10:45 am
larzv
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lighten up while you still can, take it easy.


 
Posted : November 21, 2014 11:48 am
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Posted : November 21, 2014 11:54 am
StratDal
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Pravda has more credibility than Rolling Stone.


 
Posted : November 21, 2014 6:03 pm
PhotoRon286
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I'll side with Rob on this one.


 
Posted : November 21, 2014 7:32 pm
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I just saw a piece highlighting how a RS article brought visibility to on campus rape issues at the Univ. of Virginia. And due to the RS article, UVA administration has suspended all frat activities and are investigating how to change the culture. So, I would say that RS is still relevant and putting resources toward socially important issues. You could say that it is one of the last media institutions willing to invest in investigative resources. While I often find there articles a little heavy handed and one sided (sometimes like Fox News), I think RS brings light to many issues that would remain dark without them questioning what is going on. While RS spends much of it time covering music I don't care about, I do realize they need to replace an aging reader base and cover what sells. And I will put up with that to get exposed to new great music, learn more about rock legends, guidance on new movies, and the occasion piece that really makes me think and potentially has such an impact to change our large social institutions. What else can you ask for?


 
Posted : November 23, 2014 4:53 am
PhilEverhardt
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One question to folks critical of RS. Who would you rather see photos of poolside...Rihanna or Steven Tyler? Unfortunately, I think I have seen both in the same RS issue. I know I don't need to see any more pics of Steven.


 
Posted : November 23, 2014 5:01 am
les_paul_sunburst
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One question to folks critical of RS. Who would you rather see photos of poolside...Rihanna or Steven Tyler? Unfortunately, I think I have seen both in the same RS issue. I know I don't need to see any more pics of Steven.

That photo demonstrating Rhianna's beauty will haunt my dreams...

That photo of Steven will no doubt induce nightmares ... 😉


 
Posted : November 23, 2014 5:24 am
les_paul_sunburst
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I mean, really, have you seen the latest print issue? They've wasted over twelve pages
on - get this - the Allmans' final show at the Beacon, obits on Jack Bruce and Paul Revere,
a Bob Seger interview and, worst of all, a cover story on a bunch of lousy songs Bob Dylan
recorded over a hundred years ago in a pink house in upstate New York with a disreputable
group of unwashed Canadian hillbillies. Good Lord, what a waste of paper.....tell me about
Ariana Grande, Pharrell, Selena and the Beebs - who cares about those old people?!

It was their annual "This One Is For The Old Hippies" issue...

And this old hippie is grateful...:)


 
Posted : November 23, 2014 5:40 am
robslob
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I just saw a piece highlighting how a RS article brought visibility to on campus rape issues at the Univ. of Virginia. And due to the RS article, UVA administration has suspended all frat activities and are investigating how to change the culture. So, I would say that RS is still relevant and putting resources toward socially important issues. You could say that it is one of the last media institutions willing to invest in investigative resources. While I often find there articles a little heavy handed and one sided (sometimes like Fox News), I think RS brings light to many issues that would remain dark without them questioning what is going on. While RS spends much of it time covering music I don't care about, I do realize they need to replace an aging reader base and cover what sells. And I will put up with that to get exposed to new great music, learn more about rock legends, guidance on new movies, and the occasion piece that really makes me think and potentially has such an impact to change our large social institutions. What else can you ask for?

What else can you ask for? For starters, how about some intelligent RS readers who care enough about important issues like college campus rape or how Chase bank weasled itself out of an expose after the financial crisis. Instead, many (like some here) take a glance at it and label it rubbish.

Nice post, and very truthful post.


 
Posted : November 23, 2014 7:40 am
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People are surprised that RS covers music that they don't like and would prefer it to be crammed with articles about senior citizen rockers with no record deal, release little to no new music who tour 20 shows per year. Some need to accept the fact that they are old and music magazines will not cater to 68- 75 forever.

RS has gone up and down over the years. But it has been covering crap music for a long time. By the latter 70s, it was catering to the record companies and their promotion machine. Sells albums and sells magazines so the partnership is profitable. Lady Gaga sells and the ABB don't.

As for RS being cutting edge journalism, I think that is a major stretch but have at it if you like. Also you can't expect the demographic on this site to love RS as it is not who the magazine is aiming at attracting so there is not much for them.

There are other magazines that are for the classic rock crowd that would suit many here better. Some of our resident ABB Peach UK members are even associated with them. But even Classic Rock has run out of angles to talk about the same old rockers and focuses much more on new music.

I think that larzv would have liked one of the long RS stories dedicated to the ABB's final shows and many here agree. But that is that case of people over estimating the impact of the final shows on the music industry. Just doesn't sell magazines anymore.


 
Posted : November 23, 2014 8:09 am
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Occasionally they do ok and cater to the dinosaur. But they should be boycotted until they stop advertising tobacco. And the perfume ads reek like hell. I wrote and told them I won't renew until the tobacco pushing stops


 
Posted : November 23, 2014 9:19 am
larzv
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good points canadian mule. thanks


 
Posted : November 24, 2014 10:56 am
Rusty
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Politically they can skew themselves as well as any media (news) outlet.

From a musical standpoint, in its earliest days, Rolling Stone stood out and gained platform because they did not focus on MAIN STREAM acts and musical styles. From a music standpoint, they've become this century's equivalent of Tiger Beat.

A digression: There was a story on the CNN (and other media) pages this morning - "8 Stars Who Stole the AMA Awards" :

http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/24/showbiz/celebrity-news-gossip/american-music-awards-2014-winners/index.html?hpt=hp_c3

The first funny part: the story only listed 6 acts (highlighted in bold).

Secondly, of the 6 (not 8) - all were female. All were noted more for their sense of fashion (or absence of clothing) and not their musical performance.

Yes, I am old. I am starting to sound like my parents, but MUSIC these days simply isn't about music anymore. The acts listed (to me) have more in common with strippers or dancers than they do with musical PERFORMERS.

To regress: I guess this is where Rolling Stone now focuses its energies.

Carry on.


 
Posted : November 24, 2014 11:17 am
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