Hey Mule you seem to be a pedophile apologist. And I'm the one with poor taste ? I don't think so. And if I am , I am with both Clapton and Duane . I'll stick with those two. You can have all the others. If you had a 15 yr. old daughter getting banged by a 27 yr. old Page ( or any adult for that matter ) I'm sure you would find that utterly repugnant and criminal. Or maybe you wouldn't now that I think about your previous posts , because you seem to be a plagiarism apologist also. I hate when the law gets in the way of having a good old time, you know: raping and stealing.

[Edited on 12/8/2014 by JerryJuice]

Shows how little you know. I would throw them all in jail. Hell I would kick Gregg's ass for touching my daughter in her 20s.

Just pointed out the fact that they all did it. Funny that you should seem so upset about it and yet have a user name of another one of the pedophiles as Jerry also enjoyed the young groupies. Hope that bothers you just as much as Jimmy. I guess dosing people and having sex with them wasn't rape in your mind? At least Jimmy was good looking enough for them to want him and he didn't need to drug them like The Grateful Dead did.

By supporting him in such a way, you show far more pedophile support then I ever will. Comes as no surprise to me.

And what about the previous user names that you have had? Did they support pedophiles also? Are you just a coward hiding behind a new name or banned?

Ever drive a school bus? LMAO!

People, people - its a thread about something Ellen said, jeez.

Hey Mule you seem to be a pedophile apologist. And I'm the one with poor taste ? I don't think so. And if I am , I am with both Clapton and Duane . I'll stick with those two. You can have all the others. If you had a 15 yr. old daughter getting banged by a 27 yr. old Page ( or any adult for that matter ) I'm sure you would find that utterly repugnant and criminal. Or maybe you wouldn't now that I think about your previous posts , because you seem to be a plagiarism apologist also. I hate when the law gets in the way of having a good old time, you know: raping and stealing.

[Edited on 12/8/2014 by JerryJuice]

Shows how little you know. I would throw them all in jail. Hell I would kick Gregg's ass for touching my daughter in her 20s.

Just pointed out the fact that they all did it. Funny that you should seem so upset about it and yet have a user name of another one of the pedophiles as Jerry also enjoyed the young groupies. Hope that bothers you just as much as Jimmy. I guess dosing people and having sex with them wasn't rape in your mind? At least Jimmy was good looking enough for them to want him and he didn't need to drug them like The Grateful Dead did.

By supporting him in such a way, you show far more pedophile support then I ever will. Comes as no surprise to me.

And what about the previous user names that you have had? Did they support pedophiles also? Are you just a coward hiding behind a new name or banned?

Ever drive a school bus? LMAO!

Hey Mule let me start by saying what a complete A$$HOLE you are. My user name has nothing to do with Garcia at all so your whole premise is 100% wrong. You may be laughing but it is not a laughing matter. Now go away !

Did I hurt your little feelings? Poor guy.

You have been hurling personal insults my way all through this thread and I am the a$$hole?

Didn't bother me as you had to go that route as you haven't provided any actual facts nor responded to anything that shows how wrong you are as actual fact means nothing to you. You think your opinion is all that matters which is true inside of your little mind but means nothing in the real world.

Laughing? Yeah I find this all funny. Ellen likes Zeppelin and you and others take your usual Zeppelin shots. You then proceed to determine what is good/bad musically as if you are the judge. Why people like you care what others like is beyond me and is school yard mentality? How old are you? 10?

Next time come to a debate with an actual fact and it may help and then you don't have to resort to childish name calling. Like what you like and stop trying to tell others what they can like. There are at least a half dozen threads where you take these Zeppelin shots. You don't like them, we get it. Why the need to keep doing it? Just listen to what you like and spend the other time on something positive if that is possible for you.

As for going away, that won't happen. Guess you will have to sail that ship. It would give you time to read a bit and then have some actual facts while trying to tell others what they can like.

Ellen is the greatest lesbian to ever host a television show!

Ellen is the greatest lesbian to ever host a television show!

😛

And she looks like Wayne Gretzky.

Did I hurt your little feelings? Poor guy.

You have been hurling personal insults my way all through this thread and I am the a$$hole?

Didn't bother me as you had to go that route as you haven't provided any actual facts nor responded to anything that shows how wrong you are as actual fact means nothing to you. You think your opinion is all that matters which is true inside of your little mind but means nothing in the real world.

Laughing? Yeah I find this all funny. Ellen likes Zeppelin and you and others take your usual Zeppelin shots. You then proceed to determine what is good/bad musically as if you are the judge. Why people like you care what others like is beyond me and is school yard mentality? How old are you? 10?

Next time come to a debate with an actual fact and it may help and then you don't have to resort to childish name calling. Like what you like and stop trying to tell others what they can like. There are at least a half dozen threads where you take these Zeppelin shots. You don't like them, we get it. Why the need to keep doing it? Just listen to what you like and spend the other time on something positive if that is possible for you.

As for going away, that won't happen. Guess you will have to sail that ship. It would give you time to read a bit and then have some actual facts while trying to tell others what they can like.

Hey Mule don't worry because you didn't hurt my feelings at all. As far as the insults I do believe you started hurling them with your condescending BS about people not getting the memo that I decided what people should like/listen to. As far as facts I will try again : LZ are ripoff artists. That is a fact. Page is/was a pedophile. Again fact. I'm so sorry if these facts interfere with you worshipping at the altar of LZ (you know, the one you have in your bedroom ) . I have , in fact , said Page is among the greats . I also said he has not done much with his enormous talent these last 35 yrs or so. Such a pity. And I NEVER told others what they can or can't like. I just said LZ is not my cup of tea and I have seen them several times. And if you don't like my facts and my opinion , well that's just too damn bad. NOW GO AWAY !

So an example of music that Page stole? Plant's lyrics are what was stole. But you avoid that fact over and over and will again.

Matt tried to claim music that was stolen but he had never actually listened to the examples he mentioned. It was a simple trip to youtube to show how wrong that was.

You wrote that anyone who likes anything that you don't is wrong and the music is bad.

You wrote about the pedophile angle which I agree with. But Page was hardly alone. All the acts of that era and those before and after have done the same. Does that make it right? No. But what would you like us to do? Stop listening to bands that messed with underage groupies? Then you might as well toss your music collection.

If telling you that you have no facts is condescending then you must be insulted often if this topic is an indication.

Now that you have told us that you don't like him in every thread that comes up regardless of topic, can we just all assume that you don't like him. This will save you time for more productive things and spare us reading it again.

Now as for going away, that may have worked when you bullied kids in school but I don't like bullies and tell them to kiss my ass. So drink some of Jerry's piss and trip out.

Page has admitted it but has said it was Plant's fault because he didn't change the lyrics enough. That is a fact because I saw that in an interview. Jimmy boy just laughed it off. The lawsuits that were brought against LZ and "settled" out of court. These are facts Mule. And the fact that other rockers may have done the same thing Page did is a flawed defense of his actions. So sorry if your idol is a low life piece of sh!t. You know , like you are. And again moron , my user name has zero to do with Garcia.

Do you kiss your Mom with that mouth? Even after drinking Jerry's piss?

The vast majority of court cases are "settled" but again don't let details spoil it.

I don't defend anyone who messes with the underage. But that does not involve my enjoyment of their music.

I have been backstage at thousands of shows and seen quite a bit that I do not condone. But I am not the R&R police. Having met most rockers over the years, I have met many that were pieces of shit but Jimmy was not one of them.

Now in the insult department, do you need some help? You come across like a child with limited language skills and a grade school mentality. No wonder you have trouble grasping things, it may be beyond your capacities. Next you will be calling me Poo Poo Head.

Now pour yourself a glass full of Jerry's urine and relax. Do you get it straight from the GD site?

So an example of music that Page stole? Plant's lyrics are what was stole. But you avoid that fact over and over and will again.

Matt tried to claim music that was stolen but he had never actually listened to the examples he mentioned. It was a simple trip to youtube to show how wrong that was.

You wrote that anyone who likes anything that you don't is wrong and the music is bad.

You wrote about the pedophile angle which I agree with. But Page was hardly alone. All the acts of that era and those before and after have done the same. Does that make it right? No. But what would you like us to do? Stop listening to bands that messed with underage groupies? Then you might as well toss your music collection.

If telling you that you have no facts is condescending then you must be insulted often if this topic is an indication.

Now that you have told us that you don't like him in every thread that comes up regardless of topic, can we just all assume that you don't like him. This will save you time for more productive things and spare us reading it again.

Now as for going away, that may have worked when you bullied kids in school but I don't like bullies and tell them to kiss my ass. So drink some of Jerry's piss and trip out.

i just ignored it and was going to make a comment. the chord progressions and tempos are the same. changing arrangements and adding solo's doesn't mean you wrote a brand new tune. if thats the case then vanilla fudge wrote a lot of tunes that they credit to other people

Paul McCartney & Wings Beware My Love Feat. John Bonham

For crying out loud! Led Zeppelin played music that was based on and inspired by the blues masters. Their music is derivative of the blues - agree on that.

FYI: "settled (in/out of court)" usually means that somebody (Zeppelin) wrote somebody else (Willie Dixon) a check - thus acknowledging ... "inspiration" and making payment accordingly.

I can't believe we've gotten 3 pages out of the opinion of a talk show host - who likely would have stated that ANY known guitar god appearing on her show was "the greatest ever".

For crying out loud! Led Zeppelin played music that was based on and inspired by the blues masters. Their music is derivative of the blues - agree on that.

FYI: "settled (in/out of court)" usually means that somebody (Zeppelin) wrote somebody else (Willie Dixon) a check - thus acknowledging ... "inspiration" and making payment accordingly.

I can't believe we've gotten 3 pages out of the opinion of a talk show host - who likely would have stated that ANY known guitar god appearing on her show was "the greatest ever".

No common sense please...it confuses the masses

Very entertaining thread.....Hope I don't run out of popcorn soon

Rusty you hit the nail on the head. And it was more artists than just Willie Dixon. Some people are more than Mule headed about these FACTS. They are in truth nothing more than a Horses Arse.

Very entertaining thread.....Hope I don't run out of popcorn soon

Glad to see someone is doing my old job... 😉
And...quite well I must say!

Wow this thread has been really entertaining. I feel like I should give something back...

How about a B&P, Three Discs, Led Zeppelin 5/14/73, from the Municipal Auditorium in New Orleans.

Or two discs from the night before in Mobile, good quality but incomplete compared to the night before.

Or three discs from Dallas Texas, 3/4/75

PM me if you want the address to send the blanks and postage.

Wow this thread has been really entertaining. I feel like I should give something back...

How about a B&P, Three Discs, Led Zeppelin 5/14/73, from the Municipal Auditorium in New Orleans.

Or two discs from the night before in Mobile, good quality but incomplete compared to the night before.

Or three discs from Dallas Texas, 3/4/75

PM me if you want the address to send the blanks and postage.

Now you are ripping all those people off also or will they recieve royalties? 😛

These boys are gonna hunt you down now.

Now what about the people that Dixon ripped off? Or do they not matter? Should be interesting to see someone claim that he came up with those patterns and lyrics. Luckily facts are not needed.

Nice offer Billy those are great shows.

Just because some can open up to facts, it is the record company that settled. And with Zeppelin it has always been the lyric that has been in question. It was acknowledged that Plant used lyrics. That issue has never been contested here. Which explains the co-author agreement. Details details Some need to lay off the GD urine for a while, it is messing with their mind.

Sonny Boy Williamson Bring it on home
Willie Dixon on Bass

Willie Dixon - You Shook Me

Willie Dixon - I can't quite you

Otis Rush - I can't quit you babe -Cobra Record Recording

I would say they took the very essence of each of these tune....Solos may have been different, the players...the date but they were doing recreations of these versions

Very much in the way the ABB did Stormy Monday or Trouble No more or Done somebody wrong

This Horses arse can't get through his head that I am not , nor have ever been , a Deadhead . I like them and have seen about 5-6 Jerry GD shows but that is it. Can you move on please ?

This Horses arse can't get through his head that I am not , nor have ever been , a Deadhead . I like them and have seen about 5-6 Jerry GD shows but that is it. Can you move on please ?

So you are a closet GD fan but felt the need to use it as your username and you collect their juices. Which shows would you recommend? Deadheads always have the best insight concerning these things.

well..if ellen says so...I guess it must be true...

sorry,I only read the title

I love Page...whether he's The Greatest, I dunno

Fripp,well he was &..still is a lunatic..& ( I just watched him again,old stuff new stuff,wow,must be on super heavy meds now)

McGlaughlin..was & I think still is..very self absorbed & its hard to get a note in edgewise..him & DiMeola are a good match...saw them both live. I felt sorry for Paco DeLucia...both times

[Edited on 12/12/2014 by bettyhynes]

Isn't imitation the greatest form of flattery?

This Horses arse can't get through his head that I am not , nor have ever been , a Deadhead . I like them and have seen about 5-6 Jerry GD shows but that is it. Can you move on please ?

So you are a closet GD fan but felt the need to use it as your username and you collect their juices. Which shows would you recommend? Deadheads always have the best insight concerning these things.

Did you take classes on how to be an A$$HOLE or does it come naturally ? And ok I'll bite: Who did Willie Dixon rip off ? Facts only please.